It arrived in AZ today by surface mail. ----- Original Message ----- From: "David E. Cann" <decann@infi.net> To: <FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2001 1:47 PM Subject: Re: [FO] Turning Green > >Guess I will have to wait for Monday. > > You and me both. . . . . . Unless I miss my guess, most of them who > already have it either live in Utah or they paid for UPS or FedEx premium > delivery. I paid only for USPS surface mail. Such as life in the fast > lane, I guess, but this is almost like waiting for Santa to come on > Christmas Eve <g>. > > David > > MSgt David E. Cann, USMC (Ret'd) > Phone: 540-372-7868 > Fax: 540-372-7707 > E-mail: decann@infi.net > > HOME PAGES > Family: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~decann > Genealogy: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~decann/genealogy > > List Administrator of CANN surname list on RootsWeb > Board Administrator of CANN surname board on RootsWeb > > Researching Bradford, Brewer, Cann, Cashatt, Ewing, Fitch, Linson, Markley, > Merkle, Oliver, Redkey, Schottler, Shockey, Vance and Wynne surnames and > any others related by birth, marriage or adoption. > > *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** > > On 08/25/2001, at 4:23 PM, Dick Wells wrote: > > >I am sitting here turning green with envy. It seems like everybody is > getting their new FOW 10. > > > >Guess I will have to wait for Monday. > > > >Dick > > > <clip> > > > ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== > PLEASE send personal replies and "THANK YOU" message privately. All messages on this list are archived and archiving takes up valuable space. > > ============================== > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp >
I use the "My Documents" folder for all data possible. Some programs do not allow the use of it, but FO does. My reasoning is that when I back up my data I know just where over 90% of it is. It's fast and it's easy -- which means it's generally going to be safe because fast and easy backups are the ones I'm more likely to perform on a regular basis. I also back up FO (and others) to a 'backup' folder within "My Documents" so my backup files are also kept safe when I back them up as well. Over the years I've suffered various data losses (seized hard drive, foolish and careless disk cleanups, etc.) and I still have all my data when and where I need it. Allen edalsie@earthlink.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "David E. Cann" <decann@infi.net> To: <> Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2001 1:58 PM Subject: [FO] New directory for FO 10 or not?? > I still have not received my FO 10 yet (Grrrrrr!), but when I do I am > intending to install it into a new directory. Instead of the default > directory where FO 9.02 currently resides, I want to eliminate the "Parsons > Technology" folder entirely and put FO directly in the "Program Files" > folder along with everything else. Once done and functioning properly, I > intend to "uninstall" 9.02, which should leave nothing but all of my backup > copies behind (which I also have on diskette). I will then transfer the > backups to the same place in the new FO 10 directory. > > Keeping in mind that I tend sometimes to do things without considering the > possible consequences if something goes wrong, this brings to mind a couple > of questions I would like to throw out for "the resident experts" on this > list: > > 1. Is there any reason I should not do what I outlined above? > > 2. In view of the statement below that "it is not a good idea" to put your > backups in the same folder with the program, can someone tell me why? I > have done it for years with no trouble at all, although I also keep copies > on diskette, but I have yet (knock on wood) to resort to any backup due to > malfunction. > > Before the mailman arrives with my FO 10 and I "go over the deep end" and > do something stupid (again!), I would appreciate some advice from some of > you out there, if I can get it. I have used FO since version 3, and I can > see no reason not to do it, but if I am wrong it will sadly not be a > lifetime first. > > David > > *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** > > On 08/25/2001, at 12:04 PM, Tony Grisolia wrote: > > >Original message from: "C. G. Ouimet" > >>He/She probably installed 10 in a new folder. Once 10 was confirmed as > OK, > >>9 was uninstalled and the 9 folder was removed. My guess is the > database(s) > >>was/were in the 9 folder, which isn't a good idea ... > > > > > >That's close to what I figured, I guess my real question is why. Why make > a production > >out of a simple upgrade, as long as you have good current backups? > > > >Tony Grisolia > > > > > <clip> > > MSgt David E. Cann, USMC (Ret'd) > Phone: 540-372-7868 > Fax: 540-372-7707 > E-mail: decann@infi.net > Family home page: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~decann > > > ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== > UNSUBSCRIBE? Send the word: UNSUBSCRIBE(inside the message) and no additional text to: FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L-request@rootsweb.com or FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-D-request@rootsweb.com for DIGEST > > ============================== > Create a FREE family website at MyFamily.com! > http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST2 >
Well Dick you are not alone, waiting too!! Lester ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dick Wells" <dwells@chisp.net> To: <FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2001 3:18 PM Subject: [FO] Turning Green > I am sitting here turning green with envy. It seems like everybody is getting their new FOW 10. > > Guess I will have to wait for Monday. > > Dick > > > ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== > PLEASE remove as much of the Original Message as possible when replying to a List Posting. Include only that part of the original message important to your reply. > > ============================== > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp > >
Me too. But then, I'm not really ready yet anyway. Have some of that clean-up work to do someone else was talking about. Heh. Loretta Krumwiede Family Website http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~loretta ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dick Wells" <dwells@chisp.net> To: <FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2001 3:18 PM Subject: [FO] Turning Green > I am sitting here turning green with envy. It seems like everybody is getting their new FOW 10. > > Guess I will have to wait for Monday. > > Dick > > > ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== > PLEASE remove as much of the Original Message as possible when replying to a List Posting. Include only that part of the original message important to your reply. > > ============================== > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp > >
On Fri, 24 Aug 2001 22:11:27 -0600, you wrote: Thanks Dick, I did not import into my good data base. I put it in a new data base. The gedcom is not mine it was from someone else. I was trying to find a way to edit the double note entries without doing one at a time as I am 67 and with over 65000 entries I would be 127 before I finish :) Bryce Hager >Suggest you go back to your backup files and restore the database to the >condition it was before the GEDCOM import. > >First, you violated one of the preachings of this group by importing the >GEDCOM into your live database. Thats a No No! Always import into a blank >database and clean it up. Then make small sections of the cleaned up data >and merge it into your live and backed up database. > >The problem you describe sounds like Notes Merging for duplicate >individuals. > >Dick > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Bryce L Hager" <bryce@gulftel.com> >To: <FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Friday, August 24, 2001 9:01 PM >Subject: [FO] Hoe to edit Notes > > >> I am using FO8.03 and opened a new data base and imported a GED >> COM. everything went well except there is double notes on the >> people that had notes on them. The problem is to edit each of >> them is not practical as there ore over 65000 in the file. >> Any suggestions out there, and these are mostly family >> members. I am open to suggestions. >> >> Bryce Hager >> >> >> ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== >> PLEASE send personal replies and "THANK YOU" message privately. All >messages on this list are archived and archiving takes up valuable space. >> >> ============================== >> Shop Ancestry - Everything you need to Discover, Preserve & Celebrate >> your heritage! >> http://shop.myfamily.com/ancestrycatalog > > >==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== >Searchable ARCHIVES - (might wrap so you have to type in part of the name, or copy and paste) >http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS > >============================== >Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp
Hi New to list and need some tech advice I use FO 9.02 My problem is that everything turns to grey and then I loose all ability to access and the only way to solve this is to close down and re-open. Any suggestions as to why this happens and how to overcome would be appreciated as it is most frustrating. Nori in Aust
In a message dated 08/24/2001 11:50:01 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Chabar59@aol.com writes: << Don't know what I did but, I did something wrong. I created a new temporary database so I could restore an old database file to check finformation. The information did not restore so I decided to delete the temp database. When I tried to open the file to delete I get this message: Error # -64 Error #. 90615 File found erroropening file file4open C:\programfiles\parsonstechnology\familyorigin\Smithp.dbf click o.k. Error # -935 Error # 94001 Null infput parameter unexpected d4file click o.k. Program error exiting application Please help and I promise I will never do that again. I am using Ver 9.02 thanks in advance for any help Barb >> Hi Barb, If you ever get an answer to this puleeese let me know. I put FO 9.0 on a new computer with Windows ME, but when I tried to upload my database from a floppy from my old Windows 95, I got the same two codebase errors that you mention, except of course, error#64 shows A:\Bearse.DBF instead of your Smith. Charlie Bearse
"David E. Cann" <decann@infi.net> wrote: >1. Is there any reason I should not do what I outlined above? > No, there is no reason you should not do that. >2. In view of the statement below that "it is not a good idea" to put your >backups in the same folder with the program, can someone tell me why? Well, if your hard disk goes bad then your backup is gone too! Better is to have two hard disks in your computer, using one only for backups. It is unlikely that both hard disks would go bad at the very same time. It is imperative that you also put the backups on removable media kept away from the computer every time you back anything up. It is convenient, though, to also have backups on the same disk, for if just your database gets corrupted, it is much quicker to restore from the hard disk than from removable media. Wayne League
Right on! Never place data in a software folder or subfolder ... At 2001-08-25 12:41 PM, you wrote: >In a message dated 8/25/2001 8:50:49 AM Pacific Daylight Time, >adeller@santel.net writes: > > > > If you install one version in a different directory than the other, then > > there is no overwriting done. > > > > > >I did install FO 10 in a different directory than FO 9.02. When installation >was complete, it seems to me the new program had already found my 9.02 files >and asked if I wanted to convert, which I did. What I am guessing is that it >left the database in the 9.02 directory, which I had as a subdirectory of >version 9.02. So when I deleted the version 9.02 directory, it took the >database, too. In other words, converting the file did not move it to the >version 10 directory. I suppose a good way to set up files would be to have >the program in one directory (C:\FamilyOrigins) and the database in a >different directory (C:\genealogydata). That way, when you change versions of >the program, you are still using the same database when you convert and won't >be deleting your data when you delete the old version of the program. > > >==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== >GETTING THE MOST OUT OF FAMILY ORIGINS by Bruce Buzbee - FO DEMO >http://formalsoft.com NO WEB ACCESS? Write to FormalSoft@aol.com for >ordering information. > >============================== >Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: >Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. >http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com C.G. Ouimet Kingston, Ontario
I am sitting here turning green with envy. It seems like everybody is getting their new FOW 10. Guess I will have to wait for Monday. Dick
Do Not use the Add/Remove program function to remove the old copy of FOW after installing the new copy! Best procedure is to remove the old FOW first, after making backup's of your data. Be sure to test your backup's before proceeding. Then, install the new copy. Give it a good testing using copies of your data. When satified, use your live data. The reason you remove first is Windows will be deleting files based upon the latest Install Log for FOW. This deletes the new version if you installed it. What you will have left is part of the old program and your data. Unless you are knowledgeable, you have messy left-overs.. I concur with the advice of others, keep your data separate fropm the program and install in a new directory. I never use the default directory from the setup programs. Dick ----- Original Message ----- From: "David E. Cann" <decann@infi.net> To: <FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2001 11:58 AM Subject: [FO] New directory for FO 10 or not?? > I still have not received my FO 10 yet (Grrrrrr!), but when I do I am > intending to install it into a new directory. Instead of the default > directory where FO 9.02 currently resides, I want to eliminate the "Parsons > Technology" folder entirely and put FO directly in the "Program Files" > folder along with everything else. Once done and functioning properly, I > intend to "uninstall" 9.02, which should leave nothing but all of my backup > copies behind (which I also have on diskette). I will then transfer the > backups to the same place in the new FO 10 directory. > > Keeping in mind that I tend sometimes to do things without considering the > possible consequences if something goes wrong, this brings to mind a couple > of questions I would like to throw out for "the resident experts" on this > list: > > 1. Is there any reason I should not do what I outlined above? > > 2. In view of the statement below that "it is not a good idea" to put your > backups in the same folder with the program, can someone tell me why? I > have done it for years with no trouble at all, although I also keep copies > on diskette, but I have yet (knock on wood) to resort to any backup due to > malfunction. > > Before the mailman arrives with my FO 10 and I "go over the deep end" and > do something stupid (again!), I would appreciate some advice from some of > you out there, if I can get it. I have used FO since version 3, and I can > see no reason not to do it, but if I am wrong it will sadly not be a > lifetime first. > > David > > *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** > > On 08/25/2001, at 12:04 PM, Tony Grisolia wrote: > > >Original message from: "C. G. Ouimet" > >>He/She probably installed 10 in a new folder. Once 10 was confirmed as > OK, > >>9 was uninstalled and the 9 folder was removed. My guess is the > database(s) > >>was/were in the 9 folder, which isn't a good idea ... > > > > > >That's close to what I figured, I guess my real question is why. Why make > a production > >out of a simple upgrade, as long as you have good current backups? > > > >Tony Grisolia > > > > > <clip> > > MSgt David E. Cann, USMC (Ret'd) > Phone: 540-372-7868 > Fax: 540-372-7707 > E-mail: decann@infi.net > Family home page: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~decann > > > ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== > UNSUBSCRIBE? Send the word: UNSUBSCRIBE(inside the message) and no additional text to: FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L-request@rootsweb.com or FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-D-request@rootsweb.com for DIGEST > > ============================== > Create a FREE family website at MyFamily.com! > http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST2
Generally, I like to do a clean install, so put a new version of FO in it's own directory, i.e. C:\fowin8, C:\fowin9, C:\fowin10. I put the data in a subdirectory such as C:\fowin10\data. With each version of the program and its data is together, I sometimes leave an older version on the computer to help answer questions that come to the list. When adding data to the new version, I usually leave the data in the old directory and just make a gedcom from the previous version and add it to the version I just installed. Make sure to disable programs like Zone Alarm and your antivirus program before installing any program, as they can cause programs to install incorrectly. It is ALWAYS wise to save a gedcom and a couple separate backups of each database off the computer BEFORE installing a new version of any program. Even then keep some of your old backups over time for possible corruption that you could discover months later. Margaret Scheffler
The backup/restore functions have one problem area. You cannot restore to a different database name. You can restore to a different directory/folder, but the name will be the same name as when the database is backed up. Dick ----- Original Message ----- From: <Tinman853@aol.com> To: <FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2001 12:40 PM Subject: Re: [FO] please help > In a message dated 08/24/2001 11:50:01 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > Chabar59@aol.com writes: > > << Don't know what I did but, I did something wrong. > I created a new temporary database so I could restore an old database file > to > check finformation. The information did not restore so I decided to delete > the temp database. When I tried to open the file to delete I get this > message: > > Error # -64 > Error #. 90615 > File found erroropening file > file4open > C:\programfiles\parsonstechnology\familyorigin\Smithp.dbf > click o.k. > > Error # -935 > Error # 94001 > Null infput parameter unexpected d4file > click o.k. > Program error exiting application > > Please help and I promise I will never do that again. I am using Ver 9.02 > thanks in advance for any help > > Barb >> > Hi Barb, > If you ever get an answer to this puleeese let me know. I put FO 9.0 on a > new computer with Windows ME, but when I tried to upload my database from a > floppy from my old Windows 95, I got the same two codebase errors that you > mention, except of course, error#64 shows A:\Bearse.DBF instead of your > Smith. > Charlie Bearse > > > ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== > Searchable ARCHIVES - (might wrap so you have to type in part of the name, or copy and paste) > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=FAMILY-ORIGINS-U SERS > > ============================== > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp
I still have not received my FO 10 yet (Grrrrrr!), but when I do I am intending to install it into a new directory. Instead of the default directory where FO 9.02 currently resides, I want to eliminate the "Parsons Technology" folder entirely and put FO directly in the "Program Files" folder along with everything else. Once done and functioning properly, I intend to "uninstall" 9.02, which should leave nothing but all of my backup copies behind (which I also have on diskette). I will then transfer the backups to the same place in the new FO 10 directory. Keeping in mind that I tend sometimes to do things without considering the possible consequences if something goes wrong, this brings to mind a couple of questions I would like to throw out for "the resident experts" on this list: 1. Is there any reason I should not do what I outlined above? 2. In view of the statement below that "it is not a good idea" to put your backups in the same folder with the program, can someone tell me why? I have done it for years with no trouble at all, although I also keep copies on diskette, but I have yet (knock on wood) to resort to any backup due to malfunction. Before the mailman arrives with my FO 10 and I "go over the deep end" and do something stupid (again!), I would appreciate some advice from some of you out there, if I can get it. I have used FO since version 3, and I can see no reason not to do it, but if I am wrong it will sadly not be a lifetime first. David *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 08/25/2001, at 12:04 PM, Tony Grisolia wrote: >Original message from: "C. G. Ouimet" >>He/She probably installed 10 in a new folder. Once 10 was confirmed as OK, >>9 was uninstalled and the 9 folder was removed. My guess is the database(s) >>was/were in the 9 folder, which isn't a good idea ... > > >That's close to what I figured, I guess my real question is why. Why make a production >out of a simple upgrade, as long as you have good current backups? > >Tony Grisolia > > <clip> MSgt David E. Cann, USMC (Ret'd) Phone: 540-372-7868 Fax: 540-372-7707 E-mail: decann@infi.net Family home page: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~decann
>This is my biggest criticism now. I really WISH it could be fixed. >Unfortunately, the notes would have to accept tabs. I would be very unhappy with tabs as the solution. I think the only good solution would be a way to specify that portions of notes were to be rendered in a monospaced font. Then, your spacing would be maintained. (Cf. the <TT> tag in HTML. The <TT> tag does not necessarily specify that a particular monospaced font such as Courier is to be used, but it does specify that *some* monospaced font is to be used.) In my view, the problem with tabs is that there is absolutely no standard in the computing industry as to how they are to be rendered. Let me give three examples of the problem. 1. Several years ago, I participated in an E-mail discussion list about the mathematics of Rubik's cube. Several of the subscribers would routinely post messages (usually tabular in format, giving results of some of their research) which used tabs heavily. If you were using a UNIX based non-graphical E-mail system, then the messages looked fine because such systems "expanded" the tabs in the manner in which the person who posted the E-mail expected. If you were using any other E-mail system (including nearly all modern E-mail systems, for example), then the messages were so wavy they were almost impossible to read. 2. Closer to home, the ASCII reports produced by Family Origins make heavy use of tabs. If I cut and paste from these reports into an E-mail I am composing, then the E-mail becomes wavy and hard to read. Worse yet, the degree of waviness and the difficulty of reading depends totally on which E-mail client my correspondent is using. And often, my "correspondent" is an E-mail discussion list, so there are a wide variety of E-mail clients in use by people who are reading my message. I don't know how to make a report that can be read by everybody because of the tabs. Therefore, high on my wish list for V11 (I also posted it for V10, both here and on the official wish list page) is a way to produce ASCII reports without tabs, in a monospace font, and with few enough characters per line that they can be posted via E-mail without distortion. The RFT files produced by Family Origins are great, but they are not a solution for my tabs problem. I can send them as attachments to individual correspondents, but I cannot send them to Rootsweb lists because Rootsweb does not allow attachments. As long as reports stay as RTF files, the tab problem vanishes. Any word processor you load them into handles the tabs just fine. But if I cut and paste them into E-mail, it's the same problem as with ASCII reports. 3. I have the complete (nationwide) set of 1880 census CD's produced by the LDS. You can cut and paste a census entry from their screens into an E-mail, into a note in Family Origins, or into whatever. But the text which has been cut and pasted is full of tabs, and after cutting and pasting is generally rendered in such as way as to be very difficult to read. You can edit the text to delete the tabs and replace them with spaces to make the text readable. But I find the process so clumsy and labor intensive that it's easier and faster just to retype the text that I would prefer to cut and paste. So I say no to tabs. A thousand times no. Please. Jerry Bryan _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp
A#1- It might be better to delete 9.02 before installing Version 10. I remember the problems people had upgrading to 9.0, then finding it in a different folder, they tried to delete version 8, it also deleted part of 9. A#2- One reason for keeping the data in a separate folder is that you can copy the entire folder to a backup disk and not worry about wasting space by constantly backing up the program files. Family Origins creates its own Backup files so it isnt much of a problem here. Another is the problem someone on the list just had. They deleted the folder to get rid of the old program (A VERY BAD IDEA) and of course, the local databases went away with it. (by the way, they should still be in the recycle bin) (((MY ASIDE : Always remove programs using either the special program that came with the program to do it, or the Windows, Control Panel, Add/Remove Programs feature. --- Then go back and see what might be left in the original folder, some of it you might find of value.))) Alfred D Eller http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adelr/ ================= ----- Original Message ----- From: "David E. Cann" <decann@infi.net> > I still have not received my FO 10 yet (Grrrrrr!), but when I do I am > intending to install it into a new directory. Instead of the default > directory where FO 9.02 currently resides, I want to eliminate the "Parsons > Technology" folder entirely and put FO directly in the "Program Files" > folder along with everything else. Once done and functioning properly, I > intend to "uninstall" 9.02, which should leave nothing but all of my backup > copies behind (which I also have on diskette). I will then transfer the > backups to the same place in the new FO 10 directory. > > Keeping in mind that I tend sometimes to do things without considering the > possible consequences if something goes wrong, this brings to mind a couple > of questions I would like to throw out for "the resident experts" on this > list: > > 1. Is there any reason I should not do what I outlined above? > > 2. In view of the statement below that "it is not a good idea" to put your > backups in the same folder with the program, can someone tell me why? I > have done it for years with no trouble at all, although I also keep copies > on diskette, but I have yet (knock on wood) to resort to any backup due to > malfunction. > ------SNIP------ > > David >
One item that I found does help some is to enter the line; minSPs=12 ;under the [386Enh] section of System.ini. You can get to this by going to Start, Run and entering Sysedit and pressing Return. This will bring up a number of windows. Select the system.ini window and right at the top should be the [386Enh] section. Go to the end of one of the lines, press return to open an empty line and add the line: minSPs=12 When you close, it will ask if you want to save. Answer yes and then reboot. This should help some with memory management. I keep 3 databases open most of the time. I was adding a number of photos last week and had the *white-out* only once. (Not sure what else I had running, but there is usually several other things in the background as well.). Keith Thompson The Petersons wrote: > > I have 128MB Ram. I ran into this problem several months ago. This mailing list has helped resolve the majority of the problem as it relates to memory. Through time, and although I have no infallible proof, it is clear and peaceful in my mind that I have this problem only when I have four or more FO databases open and I am trying to edit one of them and even then it may or may not occur. If I have one database open and am editing and I have word open, paintshop open, my email software open, my browser open, etc or all of them, it does not matter, I just don't have the problem. Although it is very convenient when I open FO to have all my databases opened; I've learned that when I plan on doing a lot of editing, I get down to the basic number of databases. Sincerely, Mike Peterson > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Wayne League > To: FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2001 7:32 AM > Subject: Re: [FO] Advice needed please! > > "Nori Witter" <nori@eisa.net.au> wrote: > > >My problem is that everything turns to grey and then I loose all ability to > >access and the only way to solve this is to close down and re-open. > > This sounds sort of like the problem some are having with the tool bar > buttons disappearing and then the computer hangs up. It is thought to > be a memory management problem. Some computers that even have 128mb > or more of RAM have the problem. Windows is a very poor memory > manager and that is believed to be the problem. > You might try running as few programs at the same time as possible. > Also, check the task bar tray and see if you have an unusually large > amount of things running all the time there. It would be best to get > rid of as many of those as you can do without. > > There are RAM memory restoring programs that will restore the memory > that has been lost during a computer session that might help the > problem. One is called "RamBooster" and you can get it at > http://www.saunalahti.fi/~borg/rambooster/ > It may or may not help your problem but it won't hurt to try it > because it is free. > > Wayne League > > ______________________________ > > ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== > PLEASE remove as much of the Original Message as possible when replying to a List Posting. Include only that part of the original message important to your reply. > > ============================== > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp -- Keith Thompson, Worthington, OH Home Web Page: http://freepages.family.rootsweb.com/~kthompson/ Genealogy Web Page: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~kthompson I Didn't Climb to the Top of the Food Chain to Be a Vegetarian
In a message dated 8/25/2001 9:05:24 AM Pacific Daylight Time, agrisolia@texoma.net writes: > Original message from: "C. G. Ouimet" > >He/She probably installed 10 in a new folder. Once 10 was confirmed as OK, > >9 was uninstalled and the 9 folder was removed. My guess is the > database(s) > >was/were in the 9 folder, which isn't a good idea ... > > > That's close to what I figured, I guess my real question is why. Why make a > production > out of a simple upgrade, as long as you have good current backups? > > Tony Grisolia > The reason why is that a person only upgrades once a year and forgets just what the program does from one time to the next. That's why we have this list, so now everyone on the list has been reminded that the files don't get moved into the new directory. And also, don't forget to make some good backups. It works fine if you pay attention.
In a message dated 8/25/2001 8:50:49 AM Pacific Daylight Time, adeller@santel.net writes: > If you install one version in a different directory than the other, then > there is no overwriting done. > > I did install FO 10 in a different directory than FO 9.02. When installation was complete, it seems to me the new program had already found my 9.02 files and asked if I wanted to convert, which I did. What I am guessing is that it left the database in the 9.02 directory, which I had as a subdirectory of version 9.02. So when I deleted the version 9.02 directory, it took the database, too. In other words, converting the file did not move it to the version 10 directory. I suppose a good way to set up files would be to have the program in one directory (C:\FamilyOrigins) and the database in a different directory (C:\genealogydata). That way, when you change versions of the program, you are still using the same database when you convert and won't be deleting your data when you delete the old version of the program.
Original message from: LouPero@aol.com >In a message dated 8/25/2001 9:05:24 AM Pacific Daylight Time, >agrisolia@texoma.net writes: >The reason why is that a person only upgrades once a year and forgets just >what the program does from one time to the next. That's why we have this >list, so now everyone on the list has been reminded that the files don't get >moved into the new directory. And also, don't forget to make some good >backups. It works fine if you pay attention. Oh well, daddy always said, "There's more than one way to skin a cat". I'd rather just follow the directions. That way files don't have to move from one directory to another, they simply stay where they are and the rest of the program overwrites itself around them. As for what's new in FO this year, there's a list at: http://www.formalsoft.com/features.htm Of course how you choose to do it is none of my business, but your original question made me think I might have missed something and that FO upgrades were somehow different from other software upgrades. Tony Grisolia