Someone mentioned hot Keys for FO I have read read and read help but I find no mention of hotkeys For instance in FTM I just hit<F> and there is the entire index then I just type Tyler, Sandra...and there I am Help Please SANDRA TYLER DUNCAN Sacramento,CA http://www.gencircles.com/users/purplevw1/1/ http://www.progenealogists.com/genealogysleuthb.htm all my mail scanned by Norton Below is the only place that will accept attachments [email protected]

Mostly JPG but some source documents were saved as 16 color uncompressed TIF. Does Family Origins 10 allow any form of TIF? I seem to recall messages about FO customers converting whole sets of image files from TIF to JPG which might result in larger image files than rescanning. Didn't find a list of accepted image formats in FO 10 Help file (using image to search and then scrapbook) Elizabeth ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Thompson" > In sorting through the folder with the pictures, right click in the open > window with the pictures and select "sort by type". This will move the > .thu to one part of the window and the others (I hope that you are using > only one type of grapic extension) to the other part of the window. Now > its very easy to go through the photo list looking for an alphabetical > name.

Part of the requirement is to have each sub-folder of pictures able to run as an independant slide show in logical order. That means thousands of pictures are already named yyyy-mm-dd + descriptive title. Early 1996 scans were not linked to any genealogy program so I was able to rename image files at will -- that was my downfall with the first Family Origins 5 file, renaming and losing the links. More likely to last would be a set of "permanent" image folders on the Picture partition of the hard drive that could be copied to a CD-ROM and back to a different hard drive. Would there be any issues with linking a few of the same images to more than one Family Origins 10 file? Copying a set of image files for a 4th cousin (who is using an old version of Reunion/Mac) just requires selecting the folders for our common relatives. A code would be meaningless to another researcher looking for a specific picture. She can probably figure out 1901censusWilkinRich&Jane.jpg or 1890deathWilkinRichSr.jpg even with several Richards in different branches of the family. Codes and numbered image files could end up like unmarked real pictures in a "shoebox." Researchers are already exchanging sets of image files as e-mail attachments and merging files with images. Family Origins GEDCOM with links to images can be opened in a few other genealogy programs. Elizabeth, using Windows XP Pro, FO 10 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dick Wells" > Name your pictures using a prefix code, which you set-up based specifically > on how you wish to divide your data. The more divisions and overlapping of > groups, the more complex your prefix code will need to be.

For what it is worth. I bought my latest computer (my 7th beginning with Tandy Color Computer I) with Win98 (later version) installed in Feb 2002. It worked well with FO9.0 (installed patches) and I upgraded to FO 10.0. It worked great with both. This wasn't a surprise to me since FO has always worked well no matter the platform. Incidentally, not to be brazen about it but during an upgrade, I have never done anything except put the floppy in the tray, go to desk top and close tray and let it load the upgrade by itself. It has always worked perfectly. I installed Norton Suite 2000 and shortly thereafter there were peculiar thing happening to the computer though none of them involved FO. It would not shut down, couldn't get mail etc. I checked with Microsoft and went round and round throughout the various sites/pages looking for upgrades to fix the problem. Finally found Internet Explorer 6.0 which happened to have the latest and greatest Outlook Express on the CD. Only problem was the $106.00 price tag. I went to Wal-Mart and bought Windows SE for Home for $99.95 + 5% sales tax and it of course contains the above goodies. I installed it (it told me it would take about 77 minutes and it did) in my own inimitable style by putting the disk in the tray and closing it. Worked fine. FO 10.0 is fine. Norton is removed except for the virus checker. Iomega Zip drive might be out but I don't really care since I have a 100 meg floppy drive and a CD writer. Bottom line. FO is a great product and I know my only problems are those caused by my own carelessness in installing dupes from gedcoms. I do believe in backups. I backup religously on my c drive and again on computer 5 which is networked to computer 7 but I have never had to install a backup! ( I have 30512 persons in my data base, about 3500 places in the place list (no dupes), thousands of sources/citations (no dupes), thousands of event citations, etc. etc. etc. I wish everyone felt they were in control of the program as much as I do. Cheers, Ron Mitchell ----- Ori.ginal Message ----- From: "Alfred Eller" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, July 19, 2002 11:46 Subject: Re: [FO] Mouse wheel : Wayne's letter made me wonder if those that are having problems have : upgraded to XP or purchased a computer already equipped with it. : : I wouldn't be surprised to learn that anyone who upgraded to XP would : have a problem until they went to the Microsoft web page and downloaded : and installed new mouse drivers. Even computers that came with XP : installed might benefit from new drivers. : : I am using Win 98 too, so I am only thinking with my fingers on the : keyboard. <};-) : : Alfred D. Eller : Some Windows tips for beginners : http://freepages.computers.rootsweb.com/~adelr/index.htm : : : : P.S. I told a lie earlier, I checked the Family Origins Explorer again. : : >I found someone with enough children : > to see the scroll bar on the right pane and discovered that the wheel : > didn't work there. : : The scroll wheel works in the right hand pane if I click on someone : there so that it knows I am in that pane. : : : ========================== : : : ----- Original Message ----- : From: "Wayne League" <[email protected]> : To: <[email protected]> : Sent: Friday, July 19, 2002 11:05 AM : Subject: Re: [FO] Mouse wheel : : : > "David R. Holloway" <[email protected]> wrote: : > : > >The wheel does not seem to work in the FOW (v.10) explorer window.Is : that : > >correct : > : > My mouse wheel works in all three panes of the FO10 explorer window : > whenever the pane is active and there is a scroll bar in the pane. : > But you need to have the mouse pointer in a pane before it will work. : > And, for either of the two right panes you have to click on a line : > there before you can scroll in that pane. : > : > But I'm using Win98 ... I don't know about XP. : > : > Wayne League : > : : : : : : ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== : PLEASE remove as much of the Original Message as possible when replying to a List Posting. Include only that part of the original message important to your reply. : :

In sorting through the folder with the pictures, right click in the open window with the pictures and select "sort by type". This will move the .thu to one part of the window and the others (I hope that you are using only one type of grapic extension) to the other part of the window. Now its very easy to go through the photo list looking for an alphabetical name. Keith Thompson "E.Rodier" wrote: > > How many images can be kept in a single folder, even with long file names > and a good naming system? I've had over 25,000 JPG images on the same hard > drive at the same time but using one hard drive partition for each main > branch (about 8) and sub-folders of 50 images or less. Various programs > allow screen savers and slide shows of images in a Windows folder. > > DVD writers are not affordable yet so the practical limit is the number of > images that can be backed up on a single CD-Recordable or CD-RW, perhaps > 2000 "family size" images used with a database. THU files used by Family > Origins make an image file harder to find in a long list. > Elizabeth > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Anne Kruszka" > > I store all my photos in one directory. I learned to give descriptive > names > > and now with the ability to use long file names, it is easier. > > ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== > PLEASE remove as much of the Original Message as possible when replying to a List Posting. Include only that part of the original message important to your reply. -- Keith Thompson, Worthington, OH Home Web Page: http://freepages.family.rootsweb.com/~kthompson/ Genealogy Web Page: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~kthompson Help Page: http://freepages.computers.rootsweb.com/~kthompson/ People with dogs are too cowardly to bite for themselves.

Not using a mouse wheel, but I never had good luck with upgrades - WIN 98 was the worst! I am running XP which came loaded on my laptop. Works great. I am using a touchpad though and have the same problems with the driver that I had on my old Compaq computer. Anne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alfred Eller" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, July 19, 2002 12:46 PM Subject: Re: [FO] Mouse wheel > Wayne's letter made me wonder if those that are having problems have > upgraded to XP or purchased a computer already equipped with it. > > I wouldn't be surprised to learn that anyone who upgraded to XP would > have a problem until they went to the Microsoft web page and downloaded > and installed new mouse drivers. Even computers that came with XP > installed might benefit from new drivers. > > I am using Win 98 too, so I am only thinking with my fingers on the > keyboard. <};-) > > Alfred D. Eller > Some Windows tips for beginners > http://freepages.computers.rootsweb.com/~adelr/index.htm > > > > P.S. I told a lie earlier, I checked the Family Origins Explorer again. > > >I found someone with enough children > > to see the scroll bar on the right pane and discovered that the wheel > > didn't work there. > > The scroll wheel works in the right hand pane if I click on someone > there so that it knows I am in that pane. > > > ========================== > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Wayne League" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, July 19, 2002 11:05 AM > Subject: Re: [FO] Mouse wheel > > > > "David R. Holloway" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > >The wheel does not seem to work in the FOW (v.10) explorer window.Is > that > > >correct > > > > My mouse wheel works in all three panes of the FO10 explorer window > > whenever the pane is active and there is a scroll bar in the pane. > > But you need to have the mouse pointer in a pane before it will work. > > And, for either of the two right panes you have to click on a line > > there before you can scroll in that pane. > > > > But I'm using Win98 ... I don't know about XP. > > > > Wayne League > > > > > > > > ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== > PLEASE remove as much of the Original Message as possible when replying to a List Posting. Include only that part of the original message important to your reply. >

I have to correct my earlier statement. I was thinking of the reports to screen. I went back and checked the browser and it will work in the two right hand ones, but not in the one by surname (the left hand window). Not sure why, but I have not set any particular controls on the wheel other than to set it for 2 lines advance. Keith Thompson Wayne League wrote: > > "David R. Holloway" <[email protected]> wrote: > > >The wheel does not seem to work in the FOW (v.10) explorer window.Is that > >correct > > My mouse wheel works in all three panes of the FO10 explorer window > whenever the pane is active and there is a scroll bar in the pane. > But you need to have the mouse pointer in a pane before it will work. > And, for either of the two right panes you have to click on a line > there before you can scroll in that pane. > > But I'm using Win98 ... I don't know about XP. > > Wayne League > > ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== > PLEASE remove as much of the Original Message as possible when replying to a List Posting. Include only that part of the original message important to your reply. -- Keith Thompson, Worthington, OH Home Web Page: http://freepages.family.rootsweb.com/~kthompson/ Genealogy Web Page: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~kthompson Help Page: http://freepages.computers.rootsweb.com/~kthompson/ People with dogs are too cowardly to bite for themselves.

One of my husband's cousins has been married and divorced several times -- twice to the same woman. Only the first of the duplicate marriages produced children. I don't recall having any trouble entering the second marriage. The second union does not show their children in the family view -- but I wouldn't expect it to as there were no children born (they were getting pretty old by then!) Is the fact that I have a divorce event for the first marriage the reason FO let me do it? Just wondering Happy searchin' Pat

In the continuing saga of upgrading my computer, I would like to add a scanner that will best do the type of scans needed for genealogy and preserving old photos. I know many of you use scanners already, and I would like your suggestions for a good scanner, that has the drivers available to work with Windows XP, (usb-2 connection)and will do the type of scans needed for the genealogy. Or if someone has a reliable site that compares the features of scanners, that would be perfect... Please contact me off list at [email protected] Bobbi in Victorville, CA

Tony Grisolia <[email protected]> wrote: >I received a question about Family Origins that I need help with. I >know that when upgrading all the data entered in the old version >remains and will be present in the new version. My questioner has >version 4 and wants to upgrade to 10. Will that work the same or does >she need to do anything different? FO10 can open and convert databases made from FO versions 4.0 and later. It can restore backups only from FO 4.1a forward. It can import a gedcom file from any previous version of FO no matter how old. To be on the safe side, have both a backup and a gedcom file made from the old version ready for FO10 to use. Also, in your FO10 program folder you will find a program named convert4.exe. This program will help you convert databases made by FO versions prior to v4.0. That plus the gedcom method makes two ways you can convert really old databases. Also too, in your FO10 program folder you will find a 'readme' file that tells you all this plus more. Wayne League

"David R. Holloway" <[email protected]> wrote: >The wheel does not seem to work in the FOW (v.10) explorer window.Is that >correct My mouse wheel works in all three panes of the FO10 explorer window whenever the pane is active and there is a scroll bar in the pane. But you need to have the mouse pointer in a pane before it will work. And, for either of the two right panes you have to click on a line there before you can scroll in that pane. But I'm using Win98 ... I don't know about XP. Wayne League

I use a Microsoft mouse with a wheel. I have the wheel set to move 3 lines at a time. The wheel does not seem to work in the FOW (v.10) explorer window.Is that correct or are my settings wrong? I am using Windows XP Home. David

Wayne's letter made me wonder if those that are having problems have upgraded to XP or purchased a computer already equipped with it. I wouldn't be surprised to learn that anyone who upgraded to XP would have a problem until they went to the Microsoft web page and downloaded and installed new mouse drivers. Even computers that came with XP installed might benefit from new drivers. I am using Win 98 too, so I am only thinking with my fingers on the keyboard. <};-) Alfred D. Eller Some Windows tips for beginners http://freepages.computers.rootsweb.com/~adelr/index.htm P.S. I told a lie earlier, I checked the Family Origins Explorer again. >I found someone with enough children > to see the scroll bar on the right pane and discovered that the wheel > didn't work there. The scroll wheel works in the right hand pane if I click on someone there so that it knows I am in that pane. ========================== ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wayne League" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, July 19, 2002 11:05 AM Subject: Re: [FO] Mouse wheel > "David R. Holloway" <[email protected]> wrote: > > >The wheel does not seem to work in the FOW (v.10) explorer window.Is that > >correct > > My mouse wheel works in all three panes of the FO10 explorer window > whenever the pane is active and there is a scroll bar in the pane. > But you need to have the mouse pointer in a pane before it will work. > And, for either of the two right panes you have to click on a line > there before you can scroll in that pane. > > But I'm using Win98 ... I don't know about XP. > > Wayne League >

I store all my photos in one directory. I learned to give descriptive names and now with the ability to use long file names, it is easier. ----Original Message Follows---- From: "E.Rodier" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: [FO] pictures in one folder? Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 06:44:08 -0600 One successful book printed with Family Origins 10, about 125 pages in the final edit from the earliest ancestor and just a few generations. 17 THU files so only 17 pictures used in a descendant book. Using XP Pro and plenty of RAM, the whole book report displays on the screen in seconds. Mailing lists often have recommendations to keep all names of related individuals in a single file and all linked pictures in a single folder. Then comes the problem of identification of pictures in a file of same-name relatives and sharing the pictures for a specific branch when a file is split. What is the best way to plan multiple Family Origins files with a different set of pictures for each one and keep them ready to move from one computer to another -- personal upgrade to XP or sharing with relatives? What method do you recommend to print source documents large enough to read -- Canadian 1901 census images are available online for free so there is one image for each household that can be found without an index. Most relatives lived in farming communities and small towns at that time and there are scanned images of 1871-1891 census as well. A system of organizing family pictures must be able to expand to "all available" pictures and scanned source documents. One individual has a "biography" file with ten scrapbooks divided by time periods and matching stories for each set of approx. 50 pictures. Many older pictures were scanned in 1996 and saved with long file names. -- Elizabeth ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dick Wells" > 2. Use an artifical drive letter assignment for the folder name. This uses > the DOS SUBST command available through Windows ME. Not available in XP. > This assigns a drive letter just like Network and real Drives on the > computer. Regardless of where the pictures are stored, it can be defined > for each computer using the program. ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== My very basic Windows beginners help: http://freepages.computers.rootsweb.com/~adelr/index.htm basic HTML: http://freepages.computers.rootsweb.com/~pasher/ Anne (Percival) Kruszka _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

That's funny, I have less problems running XP than Win 2000 - which we use at work. Anyone brave enough to try that Linus OS system that's being released? Will FO work with it? ----Original Message Follows---- From: "J.D. Kotrla-Chipps" <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [FO] Getting FO 9.02 from Win98 to WinME Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 09:54:42 -0500 Of all the OS's that Micro$oft has put together XP is by far and large the worse. In order to get anything to work right, my suggestion is to trash XP and install Win2000. This is about the best they have come up with so far, even 2K leaves a lot to be desired. Let's face it, Windows is a poorly configured OS, any version, but XP will never work right, it was poorly thought out. JESSE DAVIS wrote: >The patch does not install on W XP for me either. >J Davis > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Kevin Benson >Sent: Friday, July 19, 2002 1:39 AM >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [FO] Getting FO 9.02 from Win98 to WinME > >----- Original Message ----- >From: <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 11:58 PM >Subject: Re: [FO] Getting FO 9.02 from Win98 to WinME > > >>In a message dated 7/18/02 5:28:56 PM Central Daylight Time, >>[email protected] writes: >> >> >>>Did you install FOW 9 from the original CD to the XP computer? >>>Did you copy the patch, or download a new one, and install it? >>>Did you create a new, empty database on the XP computer? >>>Did you go to the File menu, select "GEDCOM" - "import GEDCOM"? >>>Which step didn't go as expected, and how? >>> >>Sorry to have been so vague. I don't post to many lists. >>Yes, I installed Family Origins onto the laptop (that's the "XP", right?) >>from the original CD. >>I tried to install the patch but it wouldn't install. I had downloaded the >>patch so long ago that I cannot recall what problem I was having that made >> >me > >>need the patch so I figured whatever the problem had been was no longer >> >valid > >>with WinME, that's why it wouldn't install. I will go to >>www.familyorigins.com and see about downloading a new patch. >> > >First off...let me suggest that you go to www.formalsoft.com for all your >Family Origins needs, in order to avoid the confusing mix & mention of >Genealogy.com 's Family Tree Maker at *that other site* ;-) > >There are actually two(2) different patches that can be applied to your FO >version ~depending~ on whether you already have version 9.0 or 9.01. They >can be found at http://www.formalsoft.com/files.htm >( if you are not at version 9.02... you should apply the appropriate patch >regardless of Win95,98,ME,XP) > >While FO is running...click on -->Help-->About Family Origins-->Note the >version and download the appropriate patch file. Run the file and point it >to the folder on your system where FO is installed, to apply the patch. > >>Yes, I created a new, empty database on the laptop . >>Yes, I selected "import GEDCOM" from the file menu. >>As to which step didn't go as expected... our main, combined database is >> >way > >>too large for one floppy. It took four; two for his side and two for mine. >>His first disk finished in maybe a minute then it asked for the second >> >disk. > >>After two and a half hours the second disk had not finished. I knew that >>wasn't right so I shut the laptop off and asked y'all for help. I'm not >>entirely sure which step that second disk was. >> > >The problem here might possibly have been the "format" of floppy #2 was >corrupted. *Always* format blank floppies before using them to backup >"precious" data. This marks bad spots (called clusters) unusable to prevent >their use to store data in questionable areas. > >The Export GEDcom routine spans to the next (and subsequent) disks by using >ZIP to compress them and the Import GEDcom routine reads the first disk and >if there is more to import... prompts for the subsequent disks with >filenames that are in the form "gedcom_name.r00, gedcom_name.r01, etc." > >I've been fortunate not to have problems with import/export, so I cannot >comment on whether FO will "always" produce a visible warning/error (that >it >can't "read" the disk) but it seems a moot point...since you had to reboot, >in order to recover. > >>Thank you for the advice about using the backup method instead of the >> >GEDCOM > >>method. I've never done a "restore" before but I sure will give it a try. >>Thanks again, >>Barbara Wright >>Slidell, Louisiana >>[email protected] >> > >I know from experience and from mentions on this forum, that the backup >method requires LESS space to transfer the same amount of information and >preserves the custom sentence structure of user-defined facts > >-=Kevin Benson=- > > >==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== >My very basic Windows beginners help: >http://freepages.computers.rootsweb.com/~adelr/index.htm >basic HTML: http://freepages.computers.rootsweb.com/~pasher/ > > >==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== >GETTING THE MOST OUT OF FAMILY ORIGINS by Bruce Buzbee - FO DEMO >http://formalsoft.com NO WEB ACCESS? Write to [email protected] for >ordering information. > > > ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== The Genealogical Companion http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/2399/tgc.htm Browsable Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/family-origins-users/ Anne (Percival) Kruszka _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

Elizabeth You always can find the hard questions. Here is a concept that may solve your issue of dividing the pictures easily. This is something I used in the past, but not for this specific need. Name your pictures using a prefix code, which you set-up based specifically on how you wish to divide your data. The more divisions and overlapping of groups, the more complex your prefix code will need to be. Here is a very simple example. Sample family has a father, and 2 spouses each with children. Assume you have ancestors for all three parents, plus related siblings, and descendants. Futher assume you want to split each parent's line for maternal and paternal lines. For simplicity, let FP stand for the father's paternal line, FM for the maternal line, S1P and S1M for spouse 1's lines and similarly for spouse 2. Now you have 6 groups. Assume you want to pull the data for a child of Spouse 2 and include maternal and parental lines. You will need 4 of these groups, FP, FM, S2M, and S2P. In this example, with only 6 groups, a single digit can represent the group code prefix. For more complex schemes, you may use letters and numbers for the codes. It is all in the planning. For your second question, sizing of scans in documents, I don't do it. They do not turn out as desireable. Instead, I reference the document by name in the Citation and let the user open it with their own image viewer. Again, naming of the documents is the key. The above naming prefix code can be used for other documents as well as pictures. I have scanned/downloaded copies of Census pages, maps, Immigration records, Naturalization papers, and BMD certificates with related press clippings. Early on, I found lots of re-work due to under-planning the naming system. Dick ----- Original Message ----- From: "E.Rodier" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, July 19, 2002 6:44 AM Subject: [FO] pictures in one folder? > One successful book printed with Family Origins 10, about 125 pages in the > final edit from the earliest ancestor and just a few generations. 17 THU > files so only 17 pictures used in a descendant book. Using XP Pro and plenty > of RAM, the whole book report displays on the screen in seconds. > > Mailing lists often have recommendations to keep all names of related > individuals in a single file and all linked pictures in a single folder. > Then comes the problem of identification of pictures in a file of same-name > relatives and sharing the pictures for a specific branch when a file is > split. > > What is the best way to plan multiple Family Origins files with a different > set of pictures for each one and keep them ready to move from one computer > to another -- personal upgrade to XP or sharing with relatives? What method > do you recommend to print source documents large enough to read -- Canadian > 1901 census images are available online for free so there is one image for > each household that can be found without an index. Most relatives lived in > farming communities and small towns at that time and there are scanned > images of 1871-1891 census as well. > > A system of organizing family pictures must be able to expand to "all > available" pictures and scanned source documents. One individual has a > "biography" file with ten scrapbooks divided by time periods and matching > stories for each set of approx. 50 pictures. > > Many older pictures were scanned in 1996 and saved with long file names. -- > Elizabeth > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dick Wells" > > 2. Use an artifical drive letter assignment for the folder name. This > uses > > the DOS SUBST command available through Windows ME. Not available in XP. > > This assigns a drive letter just like Network and real Drives on the > > computer. Regardless of where the pictures are stored, it can be defined > > for each computer using the program. > > > > > > ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== > My very basic Windows beginners help: http://freepages.computers.rootsweb.com/~adelr/index.htm > basic HTML: http://freepages.computers.rootsweb.com/~pasher/

How many images can be kept in a single folder, even with long file names and a good naming system? I've had over 25,000 JPG images on the same hard drive at the same time but using one hard drive partition for each main branch (about 8) and sub-folders of 50 images or less. Various programs allow screen savers and slide shows of images in a Windows folder. DVD writers are not affordable yet so the practical limit is the number of images that can be backed up on a single CD-Recordable or CD-RW, perhaps 2000 "family size" images used with a database. THU files used by Family Origins make an image file harder to find in a long list. Elizabeth ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anne Kruszka" > I store all my photos in one directory. I learned to give descriptive names > and now with the ability to use long file names, it is easier.

Of all the OS's that Micro$oft has put together XP is by far and large the worse. In order to get anything to work right, my suggestion is to trash XP and install Win2000. This is about the best they have come up with so far, even 2K leaves a lot to be desired. Let's face it, Windows is a poorly configured OS, any version, but XP will never work right, it was poorly thought out. JESSE DAVIS wrote: >The patch does not install on W XP for me either. >J Davis > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Kevin Benson >Sent: Friday, July 19, 2002 1:39 AM >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [FO] Getting FO 9.02 from Win98 to WinME > >----- Original Message ----- >From: <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 11:58 PM >Subject: Re: [FO] Getting FO 9.02 from Win98 to WinME > > >>In a message dated 7/18/02 5:28:56 PM Central Daylight Time, >>[email protected] writes: >> >> >>>Did you install FOW 9 from the original CD to the XP computer? >>>Did you copy the patch, or download a new one, and install it? >>>Did you create a new, empty database on the XP computer? >>>Did you go to the File menu, select "GEDCOM" - "import GEDCOM"? >>>Which step didn't go as expected, and how? >>> >>Sorry to have been so vague. I don't post to many lists. >>Yes, I installed Family Origins onto the laptop (that's the "XP", right?) >>from the original CD. >>I tried to install the patch but it wouldn't install. I had downloaded the >>patch so long ago that I cannot recall what problem I was having that made >> >me > >>need the patch so I figured whatever the problem had been was no longer >> >valid > >>with WinME, that's why it wouldn't install. I will go to >>www.familyorigins.com and see about downloading a new patch. >> > >First off...let me suggest that you go to www.formalsoft.com for all your >Family Origins needs, in order to avoid the confusing mix & mention of >Genealogy.com 's Family Tree Maker at *that other site* ;-) > >There are actually two(2) different patches that can be applied to your FO >version ~depending~ on whether you already have version 9.0 or 9.01. They >can be found at http://www.formalsoft.com/files.htm >( if you are not at version 9.02... you should apply the appropriate patch >regardless of Win95,98,ME,XP) > >While FO is running...click on -->Help-->About Family Origins-->Note the >version and download the appropriate patch file. Run the file and point it >to the folder on your system where FO is installed, to apply the patch. > >>Yes, I created a new, empty database on the laptop . >>Yes, I selected "import GEDCOM" from the file menu. >>As to which step didn't go as expected... our main, combined database is >> >way > >>too large for one floppy. It took four; two for his side and two for mine. >>His first disk finished in maybe a minute then it asked for the second >> >disk. > >>After two and a half hours the second disk had not finished. I knew that >>wasn't right so I shut the laptop off and asked y'all for help. I'm not >>entirely sure which step that second disk was. >> > >The problem here might possibly have been the "format" of floppy #2 was >corrupted. *Always* format blank floppies before using them to backup >"precious" data. This marks bad spots (called clusters) unusable to prevent >their use to store data in questionable areas. > >The Export GEDcom routine spans to the next (and subsequent) disks by using >ZIP to compress them and the Import GEDcom routine reads the first disk and >if there is more to import... prompts for the subsequent disks with >filenames that are in the form "gedcom_name.r00, gedcom_name.r01, etc." > >I've been fortunate not to have problems with import/export, so I cannot >comment on whether FO will "always" produce a visible warning/error (that it >can't "read" the disk) but it seems a moot point...since you had to reboot, >in order to recover. > >>Thank you for the advice about using the backup method instead of the >> >GEDCOM > >>method. I've never done a "restore" before but I sure will give it a try. >>Thanks again, >>Barbara Wright >>Slidell, Louisiana >>[email protected] >> > >I know from experience and from mentions on this forum, that the backup >method requires LESS space to transfer the same amount of information and >preserves the custom sentence structure of user-defined facts > >-=Kevin Benson=- > > >==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== >My very basic Windows beginners help: http://freepages.computers.rootsweb.com/~adelr/index.htm >basic HTML: http://freepages.computers.rootsweb.com/~pasher/ > > >==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== >GETTING THE MOST OUT OF FAMILY ORIGINS by Bruce Buzbee - FO DEMO >http://formalsoft.com NO WEB ACCESS? Write to [email protected] for ordering information. > > >

That is correct. The windows in FO do not respond to the wheel. Hope that is fixed in the new program. Keith Thompson "David R. Holloway" wrote: > > I use a Microsoft mouse with a wheel. I have the wheel set to move 3 lines > at a time. > > The wheel does not seem to work in the FOW (v.10) explorer window.Is that > correct or are my settings wrong? I am using Windows XP Home. > > David > > ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== > The Genealogical Companion http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/2399/tgc.htm > Browsable Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/family-origins-users/ -- Keith Thompson, Worthington, OH Home Web Page: http://freepages.family.rootsweb.com/~kthompson/ Genealogy Web Page: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~kthompson Help Page: http://freepages.computers.rootsweb.com/~kthompson/ People with dogs are too cowardly to bite for themselves.

My mouse wheel works in Family Origins Explorer's left pane, but it does not seem to work in right panes. I found someone with enough children to see the scroll bar on the right pane and discovered that the wheel didn't work there. It seems to work in all of the lists with a right hand scroll bar. Win 98SE FOW 10 Microsoft mouse drivers. Alfred D. Eller http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adelr/ ========================== ----- Original Message ----- From: "David R. Holloway" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, July 19, 2002 6:00 AM Subject: [FO] Mouse wheel > I use a Microsoft mouse with a wheel. I have the wheel set to move 3 lines > at a time. > > The wheel does not seem to work in the FOW (v.10) explorer window.Is that > correct or are my settings wrong? I am using Windows XP Home. > > David >