I am just getting around to upgrading to FO9. Am I correct that all I do (after making backups) in to install the FO9 disk. Will I/do I unstall the older versions after that? Is there a patch for FO9?

I am sure you will be pleased to know that after I updated my driver(Intellimouse)from Microsoft,I can now use my wheel on my cordless microsoft mouse with FOW Explorer (lefthand panel only). I am slightly surprised about this as (i) I updated when I first obtained Windows XP (ii)It has worked with all of my other programs. As an aside, the download from Microsoft for the Windows XP driver came up with the statement that it had not been approved by Microsoft? So what are to make of that!! David (puzzled)

Message text written by INTERNET:[email protected] >As for concordances, that may take a while for me to understand, but I'm saving the responses until the time may try to build one.< At times folks want more to their genealogy publishing that just what FO creates in a book. The problem is how to get other material in and still preserve an accurate index. Routing FO book output to an RTF file, causes the records to be marked in a fashion that WordPerfect / Word can recognize and then WordPerfect / Word actually creates the index. Some may even use a publisher type program for greater control over printed output, for example to accomplish two sided printing, by printing pp 1,3, 5 and then turning over and printing, 6, 4, 2. on the proper reverse sides of the paper. FO's newly added "journal" feature is an element in this kind of stuff. "concordances" as a word is probably more frequently encountered in indexing things like the Scriptures or Shakespeare. For example indexing the Shakespeare phrase "neither a borrower nor a lender be", the key words being Borrower and Lender. Computer text searching these days tends to lessen such indexing. Today one can enter the entire phrase in a <google> web search and determine the proper Shakespeare work and location of the phrase within the work. The computer makes one forget what used to be the only way pre computer, kind of like beating carpets pre vacuum cleaners. Paul Studly Cleveland/Chesterland, OH [email protected]

Thank you all for your responses to my previous inquiries about TempleReady and concordances. I think I knew what TempleReady meant, and hadn't used it since I am not Morman. As for concordances, that may take a while for me to understand, but I'm saving the responses until the time may try to build one. I also have a Trackman with wheel - and it works all the time. I just put the cursor in the correct "pane" - and, whoola! Down come the names or facts. I also like the fact that in the index, when I have a name highlighted, I can go to the person's parents, spouse, or siblings, click on that name, and that person's info comes up. Further, you can Edit from the small panes, rather than returning to the regular view! And finally, there are shortcuts in FO - to Find anyone from the built-in list, I just click: Ctrl+F. To add a new person: Ctrl+I (Individual); spouse: Ctrl+S, etc. Works everytime! =) I love FO - and have sat for hours with friends who use FTM - while they try to navigate through their database - frustrated when it doesn't work the way they "know" it should. I examined several genealogy programs that friends had recommended to me until I finally decided that FO was the most User Friendly - and for old fogies like me, that is important! AND - you really don't have to read the Help info, just use a little of the knowledge you have stored in the back of your brain from other programs you use. (This is not a put-down, since you see I do have a question from time to time - and perhaps I'm just too lazy to read the Help files. lol) Thank you Bruce! Laurie Royal Oak, MI

As I may print an individuals report with photos, I would include that photo with each. You only need the one graphic file and can link several individuals to that one. I don't have large groups this way, but where there are 2,3 or 4 individuals or even individuals with their parents, I will probably link all that are in the photo to that one. Keith Thompson [email protected] wrote: > > I have some pictures of groups of siblings without their parents. (I have no > pictures at all of the parents.) How are FO users treating this type of > picture in connection with scrapbooks? Are people adding them to each > sibling's scrapbook or making it a family scrapbook - how would that work? > > Advice appreciated. > > Earl B. Akers, Sr. > Puyallup WA > <A HREF="http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~banyantree">The Banyan Tree</A> > > ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== > UNSUBSCRIBE? Send the word: UNSUBSCRIBE(inside the message) and no additional text to: [email protected] or [email protected] for DIGEST -- Keith Thompson, Worthington, OH Home Web Page: http://freepages.family.rootsweb.com/~kthompson/ Genealogy Web Page: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~kthompson If you think education is expensive, try ignorance.

My Wheel mouse (Logitech Optical) works in both sides of the v10 explorer plane (I am use Windows XP pro) it works in all windows Cheers Jenny ----- Original Message ----- From: "David R. Holloway" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, July 19, 2002 9:00 PM Subject: [FO] Mouse wheel > I use a Microsoft mouse with a wheel. I have the wheel set to move 3 lines > at a time. > > The wheel does not seem to work in the FOW (v.10) explorer window.Is that > correct or are my settings wrong? I am using Windows XP Home. > > David > > ______________________________

I have some pictures of groups of siblings without their parents. (I have no pictures at all of the parents.) How are FO users treating this type of picture in connection with scrapbooks? Are people adding them to each sibling's scrapbook or making it a family scrapbook - how would that work? Advice appreciated. Earl B. Akers, Sr. Puyallup WA <A HREF="http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~banyantree">The Banyan Tree</A>

CTRL + F Find CTRL + I Add Individual CTRL + C Add Child to person currently highlighted CTRL + P Add Parents to person currently highlighted CTRL + S Add Spouse to person currently highlighted CTRL + B Bookmark currently highlighted person CTRL + G Go to Bookmarked person CTRL + R Create a Report (same list as when you click on the printer icon) CTRL + O Open Database dialog box CTRL + V Show immediate relatives of highlighted person CTRL + N New database CTRL + M Marriage List F1 Help ALT + J Journal ESC will close most windows CTRL + END will take you to the end of most lists or notes CTRL + HOME will take you to the beginning of most lists or notes ALT + F4 Close Program These are the ones that I know of, there may be more. Regards, Brianne Kelly-Bly [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> Webmaster - NJGenWeb - Morris County http://www.rootsweb.com/~njmorris <http://www.rootsweb.com/~njmorris> > -----Original Message----- > From: Sandra E. T. Duncan [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Friday, July 19, 2002 7:50 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [FO] Hot Keys > > > Someone mentioned hot Keys for FO > I have read read and read help but I find no mention of hotkeys > For instance in FTM I just hit<F> and there is the entire index > then I just type Tyler, Sandra...and there I am > Help Please > SANDRA TYLER DUNCAN > Sacramento,CA > http://www.gencircles.com/users/purplevw1/1/ > http://www.progenealogists.com/genealogysleuthb.htm > all my mail scanned by Norton > Below is the only place that will accept attachments > [email protected] > > > > ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== > Searchable ARCHIVES - (might wrap so you have to type in part of > the name, or copy and paste) > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=FAMILY -ORIGINS-USERS

I have switched from multiple folders for pictures to a single folder. Then name my photos and documents with "surname - year of birth - given names - event qualifier". Example for a photo of John Q. Public b1776 on vacation in 1801, "Public1776JohnQ-Vacation1801.jpg". FOv10, on XP. -----Original Message----- From: E.Rodier [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, July 19, 2002 7:44 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [FO] pictures in one folder? ...snip snip ... A system of organizing family pictures must be able to expand to "all available" pictures and scanned source documents. One individual has a "biography" file with ten scrapbooks divided by time periods and matching stories for each set of approx. 50 pictures. Many older pictures were scanned in 1996 and saved with long file names. -- Elizabeth ...snip...

How many pictures linked to a single FO 10 file? One of my problems is having common names like Smith and Brown in unrelated branches and hundreds of individuals with less common family surnames that are normally kept in a few separate files. The branch in Australia is researched separately from the branch in England. Elizabeth ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed Quade" > I have switched from multiple folders for pictures to a single folder. > Then name my photos and documents with "surname - year of birth - given > names - event qualifier". > Example for a photo of John Q. Public b1776 on vacation in 1801, > "Public1776JohnQ-Vacation1801.jpg". > FOv10, on XP.

I also have a wheel mouse that does not work, it came with my gateway computer. Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: "J.J." <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, July 19, 2002 6:29 PM Subject: Re: [FO] Mouse wheel > My Wheel mouse (Logitech Optical) works in both sides of the v10 explorer > plane (I am use Windows XP pro) it works in all windows Cheers Jenny > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David R. Holloway" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, July 19, 2002 9:00 PM > Subject: [FO] Mouse wheel > > > > I use a Microsoft mouse with a wheel. I have the wheel set to move 3 lines > > at a time. > > > > The wheel does not seem to work in the FOW (v.10) explorer window.Is that > > correct or are my settings wrong? I am using Windows XP Home. > > > > David > > > > ______________________________ > > > ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== > GETTING THE MOST OUT OF FAMILY ORIGINS by Bruce Buzbee - FO DEMO > http://formalsoft.com NO WEB ACCESS? Write to [email protected] for ordering information. > >

[email protected] wrote: > > Oops! Sorry about my previous post. I somehow sent email and didn't even get > started! > > My 1st question is: what exactly is TempleReady? Is it necessary to use it? > > And 2nd: what is a concordance? Is it just an index? > > Laurie in Royal Oak, MI Laurie, Temple Ready has to do with the Mormons (Latter Day Saints). If you're not Mormon, you will probably ignore that. If you are Morman, you should already know what Temple Ready is. A concordance is not actually an index, it's a list from which you can build an index, with some word processors (Word, WordPerfect, etc). In it's basic form it's simply a list of things to be indexed. It may look like a list of names (usually a genealogy file will be indexed on names). When I've used a concordance to build an index, I use a genealogy program custom report to generate the list of names in two columns.... The first column lists the name the way it might appear in the text, ie Joe Smith Jim Monroe Charles Brown etc. The second column lists the name the way I want it to appear in the index. ie Smith, Joe Monroe, Jim Brown, Charles (These lists are very easy to generate using a custom report). Then in the Word processor (I use Word), just tell the program to search your file, comparing everything it finds to your "concordance" file (the list of names I described). Word dutifully goes through the file and creates an index, recording the names and page numbers on which they appear. -- Charlie Hoffpauir http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~charlieh/

"Sandra E. T. Duncan" wrote: > > Someone mentioned hot Keys for FO > I have read read and read help but I find no mention of hotkeys > For instance in FTM I just hit<F> and there is the entire index > then I just type Tyler, Sandra...and there I am > Help Please > SANDRA TYLER DUNCAN > Sacramento,CA > http://www.gencircles.com/users/purplevw1/1/ > http://www.progenealogists.com/genealogysleuthb.htm > all my mail scanned by Norton > Below is the only place that will accept attachments > [email protected] > Sandra, Actually, in FTM to get to the index you hit the <F2> key. The equivalent keystroke in FO is Control-F. Once there you again sinply type in Tyler,Sandra (leave the space out), and there you are. The hot keys are just like any other Windows program..... you can tell what the hot keys are by looking at which letter is underlined in the word commands on the menus. For example, either click on the word "Lists" along the top of the screen, or the keystroke Alt-L (becauls the L is underlined), from the list that appears is tells you that a direct way to get to the Lists | Individual List is the keystroke Control-F. -- Charlie Hoffpauir http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~charlieh/

Oops! Sorry about my previous post. I somehow sent email and didn't even get started! My 1st question is: what exactly is TempleReady? Is it necessary to use it? And 2nd: what is a concordance? Is it just an index? Laurie in Royal Oak, MI

I'd stick with a Canon or HP scanner. The HP is my preference, but I recently bought a Canon Canoscan which is only about 1-1/2 inches thick and about 12 inches long to take on trips and it works great! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Studly" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, July 19, 2002 5:24 PM Subject: [FO] Scanners > Message text written by INTERNET:[email protected] > >In the continuing saga of upgrading my computer, I would like to add a > scanner that will best do the type of scans needed for genealogy and > preserving old photos. > I know many of you use scanners already, and I would like your suggestions > for a good scanner, that has the drivers available to work with Windows XP, > (usb-2 connection)and will do the type of scans needed for the genealogy. > Or if someone has a reliable site that compares the features of scanners, > that would be perfect... Please contact me off list at [email protected] > Bobbi in Victorville, CA< > > Judging by the reviews, it is pretty hard to get a really bad scanner > these days. Note that scanning times vary some. Resolutions are ultimately > limited by the printer or display device. I'd say the box outside will > tell you about USB 2 versus USB 1.1. Unless you use it a lot, the USB > speed probably will never mean much to the user. > > SCANNER HARDWARE & TIPS > http://www.scantips.com [Scanning Tips ] > PC World Mag, Sep 2001, @ p173, lists for home small office type use > 1. Epson Perfection 1240U Photo, $269 USB type connection 1200 x 2400 dpi > 6.2 lbs fast & crisp (Studly owns) > 2. Visioneer One Touch 8820, $200 USB 1200 x 2400 7.2 lbs > 3. Microtek ScanMaker 4700, $180 USB 1200 x 2400 8 lbs > 4. Canon CanoScan N1220U, $199 USB 1200 x 2400 3.3 lbs > 5. Canon CanoScan D1230OUF $299 USB 1200 x 2400 8.7 lbs > 6. Agfa SnapScan E50 $179 USB 1200 x 2400 14.5 lbs > 7. Acer 1240UT $149 USB 1200 x 1200 9.5 lbs > > PC World Mag, Aug 2002, @ p100 lists for home small office type use > Seconds color/mono > 1. Microtek ScanMaker 4900, $150, USB type 2400 x 4800 > dpi 39/42 6 lbs. Transparency adapter incl > 2. Canon Canoscan N670U, $79 USB type 600 x 1200 > dpi 60/37 3.5 lbs great for travel to lib > 3.HP Scanjet 5400C, $199 USB type interface 2400 x 2400 dpi > 96/25 5.5 lbs scan direct to CD-RW > 7. Microtek ScanMaker 5700 $300 USB & IEEE1394 1200 x 2400 dpi > 37/27 10.4 lbs Firewire IEEE 1394 > > USB = Universal Serial Bus, much faster than printer/parallel port > types, but older computer may not have USB port or late Window 95 (R2), or > Window 98 to support the USB port USB standard soon from v1.1 to v2.0 > Note that some of the price differences could be scanning software > related. DO NOT BUY on Scanner resolution specs for web pictures or if you > don't need 8x10 pictures. Read articles at < > http://www.kenrockwell.com/1640.htm > > ----------------------------- > > Paul Studly > Cleveland/Chesterland, OH > [email protected] > > > ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== > Family Origins GenForum - http://genforum.genealogy.com/fo/ > Tech Support Knowledge Base http://www.familyorigins.com/support/ >

Does anyone include scrapbooks in FO 10 Journals with multiple reports and charts? This looks like a good feature but FO list participants seem to edit reports in a word processor more often than use the Journal. 161 kb uncompressed TIF saved as 124 kb PNG (scanned census photocopy) 36 kb JPG saved as 68 kb PNG (FO chart saved as JPG) XP small setting converted these images to 24 and 26 kb. The FO charts included as individual pictures are too small to read in a descendant report but serve the purpose of identifying the male of each cousin marriage. Used different color borders for first and second cousin marriages. Windows XP has the most efficient and fastest method I've found for batch conversions of mixed image formats to a very efficient JPG image size. The converted images would not be suitable for editing but look just as good to my eyes when printed as the original scans. 640x480 pixels high is suitable for a half page printed on a color ink jet. Image size may not be critical for Family Origins projects until there is a need to get the maximum number of pictures on a backup product or perhaps included in a report saved as PDF. Noticed that the 125 page Family Origins 10 report would not print whole from screen preview but it did print from the PDF file. Elizabeth ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Thompson" > No, FO does not support tif. I have all of mine in PNG as this is less > lossy if edited and about the same size as jpg. Yes, tif can be smaller > for certain types of files, but if its not compatible with FO, then you > will need to change it anyway.

No, FO does not support tif. I have all of mine in PNG as this is less lossy if edited and about the same size as jpg. Yes, tif can be smaller for certain types of files, but if its not compatible with FO, then you will need to change it anyway. Keith "E.Rodier" wrote: > > Mostly JPG but some source documents were saved as 16 color uncompressed > TIF. Does Family Origins 10 allow any form of TIF? I seem to recall messages > about FO customers converting whole sets of image files from TIF to JPG > which might result in larger image files than rescanning. > > Didn't find a list of accepted image formats in FO 10 Help file (using image > to search and then scrapbook) > Elizabeth > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Keith Thompson" > > In sorting through the folder with the pictures, right click in the open > > window with the pictures and select "sort by type". This will move the > > .thu to one part of the window and the others (I hope that you are using > > only one type of grapic extension) to the other part of the window. Now > > its very easy to go through the photo list looking for an alphabetical > > name. > > ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== > PLEASE remove as much of the Original Message as possible when replying to a List Posting. Include only that part of the original message important to your reply. -- Keith Thompson, Worthington, OH Home Web Page: http://freepages.family.rootsweb.com/~kthompson/ Genealogy Web Page: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~kthompson If you think education is expensive, try ignorance.

I also have a wheel mouse and it works in all windows of FO v.10. I am running Windows ME. Peggy Hooper My home page http://www.myroots.net/ mailto:[email protected] -----Original Message----- From: mbraden [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, July 19, 2002 8:42 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [FO] Mouse wheel I also have a wheel mouse that does not work, it came with my gateway computer. Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: "J.J." <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, July 19, 2002 6:29 PM Subject: Re: [FO] Mouse wheel > My Wheel mouse (Logitech Optical) works in both sides of the v10 explorer > plane (I am use Windows XP pro) it works in all windows Cheers Jenny > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David R. Holloway" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, July 19, 2002 9:00 PM > Subject: [FO] Mouse wheel > > > > I use a Microsoft mouse with a wheel. I have the wheel set to move 3 lines > > at a time. > > > > The wheel does not seem to work in the FOW (v.10) explorer window.Is that > > correct or are my settings wrong? I am using Windows XP Home. > > > > David > > > > ______________________________ > > > ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== > GETTING THE MOST OUT OF FAMILY ORIGINS by Bruce Buzbee - FO DEMO > http://formalsoft.com NO WEB ACCESS? Write to [email protected] for ordering information. > > ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== FAMILY ORIGINS - Ordering, UPDATES, books, FAQ, FREE DEMO, Newsletter, etc. http://formalsoft.com For the 8.03 and 9.02 PATCHES and what they fix, go to: http://formalsoft.com/files.htm

I made a huge mistake, somehow, no excuses. I put the same I nfo in two different families. How to correct? I have printed out the instructions on how to delete an individual from the database, but I do not want them all deleted from database, I want to delete from where they are entered wrong (have I confused everyone yet)? Please assist. Thanks. Debby

Message text written by INTERNET:[email protected] >In the continuing saga of upgrading my computer, I would like to add a scanner that will best do the type of scans needed for genealogy and preserving old photos. I know many of you use scanners already, and I would like your suggestions for a good scanner, that has the drivers available to work with Windows XP, (usb-2 connection)and will do the type of scans needed for the genealogy. Or if someone has a reliable site that compares the features of scanners, that would be perfect... Please contact me off list at [email protected] Bobbi in Victorville, CA< Judging by the reviews, it is pretty hard to get a really bad scanner these days. Note that scanning times vary some. Resolutions are ultimately limited by the printer or display device. I'd say the box outside will tell you about USB 2 versus USB 1.1. Unless you use it a lot, the USB speed probably will never mean much to the user. SCANNER HARDWARE & TIPS http://www.scantips.com [Scanning Tips ] PC World Mag, Sep 2001, @ p173, lists for home small office type use 1. Epson Perfection 1240U Photo, $269 USB type connection 1200 x 2400 dpi 6.2 lbs fast & crisp (Studly owns) 2. Visioneer One Touch 8820, $200 USB 1200 x 2400 7.2 lbs 3. Microtek ScanMaker 4700, $180 USB 1200 x 2400 8 lbs 4. Canon CanoScan N1220U, $199 USB 1200 x 2400 3.3 lbs 5. Canon CanoScan D1230OUF $299 USB 1200 x 2400 8.7 lbs 6. Agfa SnapScan E50 $179 USB 1200 x 2400 14.5 lbs 7. Acer 1240UT $149 USB 1200 x 1200 9.5 lbs PC World Mag, Aug 2002, @ p100 lists for home small office type use Seconds color/mono 1. Microtek ScanMaker 4900, $150, USB type 2400 x 4800 dpi 39/42 6 lbs. Transparency adapter incl 2. Canon Canoscan N670U, $79 USB type 600 x 1200 dpi 60/37 3.5 lbs great for travel to lib 3.HP Scanjet 5400C, $199 USB type interface 2400 x 2400 dpi 96/25 5.5 lbs scan direct to CD-RW 7. Microtek ScanMaker 5700 $300 USB & IEEE1394 1200 x 2400 dpi 37/27 10.4 lbs Firewire IEEE 1394 USB = Universal Serial Bus, much faster than printer/parallel port types, but older computer may not have USB port or late Window 95 (R2), or Window 98 to support the USB port USB standard soon from v1.1 to v2.0 Note that some of the price differences could be scanning software related. DO NOT BUY on Scanner resolution specs for web pictures or if you don't need 8x10 pictures. Read articles at < http://www.kenrockwell.com/1640.htm > ----------------------------- Paul Studly Cleveland/Chesterland, OH [email protected]