I have "backups for backups" on my master database in FO, and I am about to install FO 10 at work running on Windows NT. I just noted on the CD it says "works with Windows 95 and Windows 98." Would it be safe to assume that it will also run on NT? This will only be to install my weekly "backup of last resort," and will not be used very much otherwise, but I would like to make sure before I introduce a problem to my work computer. Thanks. David E. Cann [email protected] _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

Looks like the FO 10 Journal allows multiple individual scrapbooks with a different layout for each one but not the marriage scrapbooks. The current book project won't be using the family group sheets for notes due to smaller print but those might be okay for chapter covers with pictures. One family works fairly well with wide items 1x2 layout for his scrapbook and tall items 2x1 or 3x1 layout for her scrapbook. Individual summary seems to be missing the picture when it is included in a Journal. The ancestor chart with pictures seems to be the best available "cover" age for each chapter using the oldest or best known child from each family. Elizabeth ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alfred Eller" > I would suggest a small test printing of a scrapbook page, with > different page layouts to see which you like best. Preview them on > screen, change the options, caption and description, page layouts etc. > Remember, what you see on the screen are only enlargements of the > thumbnail files, the pictures on the printed page will look much better.

I think in the context Arthur was talking about the reference to Christening and Baptism is not the same as accepted today. I have extracted records from many parish registers and very few mention "Christening". Nearly all from the early 1500s to the late 1800s refer to baptism and few mention the birth date. The ones that do however indicate these baptisms usually took place within 6 weeks of birth except in the case of private baptisms where the child was sick and could die before a normal baptism could take place in which case I have one baptised a few days after his mother had died presumably at his birth. He died two weeks later but his sister did not get baptised probably due to events. In some parishes, Chatteris in Cambridgeshire is one, baptisms did not always take place soon after birth and in that case whole families would be baptised at once. Whether baptised within two weeks of birth or several years all were recorded as baptisms. If I saw a Christening on the IGI I would be checking the source of the information as many of these are not from the controlled extraction from the registers but from submissions made by other researchers. Arthur did not mention in his message that a large proportion of these parish registers are available on film from the LDS library. regards Chris Bartlett In a message dated 7/22/02 2:51:00 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Dear Arthur Thomas: You wrote: > >>available as the IGI, where for some reason, the baptisms are referred to > as christenings. The microfiches also use christening rather than baptism > in order that their contents can be identified by a single letter - CMB is > more positive than BMB<< In the IGI, if it says "Christening", it means "Christening" If there is a "Baptism", it says "Baptism",either by sprinkling or immersion. A Christening takes place soon after the child is born, usually on the first Sunday of the following month. Some churches call this "Blessing the child". A prayer is said for the child and he is given a name. Some churches sprinkle water on the head of a baby soon after birth and call it "Baptism". Some churches wait until the child is seven years old before baptizing it., either by sprinkling or immersion. Other churches wait until the child is eight years old and baptize by immerson. The churches that wait a few years before baptizing believe that: Baptizing is for remission of sins. Until a child is seven or eight years old they are free from sins. Virginia ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== FAMILY ORIGINS - Ordering, UPDATES, books, FAQ, FREE DEMO, Newsletter, etc. http://formalsoft.com For the 8.03 and 9.02 PATCHES and what they fix, go to: http://formalsoft.com/files.htm --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.375 / Virus Database: 210 - Release Date: 10/07/02 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.375 / Virus Database: 210 - Release Date: 10/07/02

Hello Pam I do this on a regular basis and not just with will transcriptions but census results etc. When you enter the new fact i.e. "probate" or if an original will under "will" I just paste it into the notes for that item. One of the advantages of FO is that you can keep these notes separately which you cant do in a program such as Family Tree Maker. regards Chris Bartlett In today's Ancestry Daily News, there was an article by Juliana Smith discussing the importance of transcribing documents. An excerpt from the article is as follows: <Once transcribed, the transcription is also copy/pasted into my genealogy software. This prompts me to enter in all the new information I found, including the transcription as part of my source documentation -- a good way to make sure sources are included for all entries. Now the document can come with me on any future research trips snugly tucked away on my laptop.> I currently keep all my transcribed Word documents on the hard drive in folders filed by family name and a brief description, and it had never occurred to me to do what she is suggesting above. Has anyone done this, and where in FO would one paste such a document? I'm currently running FO 9.2. If it's possible to do this, I'd like to hear about the advantages/disadvantages. Thanks! Pam Boice ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== FAMILY ORIGINS - Ordering, UPDATES, books, FAQ, FREE DEMO, Newsletter, etc. http://formalsoft.com For the 8.03 and 9.02 PATCHES and what they fix, go to: http://formalsoft.com/files.htm --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.375 / Virus Database: 210 - Release Date: 10/07/02 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.375 / Virus Database: 210 - Release Date: 10/07/02

Ok. Sorry folks. Been a long night of imputting data. I see that the information is presented correctly in the body of the . But in a separate area it lists the information again, but as "The family > residence in Manchester, Ct was at 41 Summer St." I missed it in my 1st 2 readings. Sri to add to the bandwidth in error. John Chapman wrote: > > Am creating a descendent Book, modified register. > When generated it includes the following statement "The family > residence in Manchester, Ct was at 41 Summer St." > > It omitted the date which is included in the fact. Also, in the place > location of the fact, I inserted Manchester, Hartford County, CT. It > omitted the county. > > The sentence structure listed in the fact is "They resided at 41 Summer > Street, in 1920 in Manchester, Hartford County, CT. > > Am I doing something wrong that the dates and complete location were not > printed? > > In the Family Group Sheet for Family Residence it just lists the year > and Street. Doesn't list the Town. > -- > John Chapman > "THESE are the times that try men's souls.." Thomas Paine 1776 > > Home Page http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~johnjay/ > > ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== > The "Family Origins® Wish List" http://formalsoft.com/wishlist.htm > ??? FAQ ??? -- http://www.graabek.com/fow/fofaq.html -- John Chapman "THESE are the times that try men's souls.." Thomas Paine 1776 Home Page http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~johnjay/

Am creating a descendent Book, modified register. When generated it includes the following statement "The family residence in Manchester, Ct was at 41 Summer St." It omitted the date which is included in the fact. Also, in the place location of the fact, I inserted Manchester, Hartford County, CT. It omitted the county. The sentence structure listed in the fact is "They resided at 41 Summer Street, in 1920 in Manchester, Hartford County, CT. Am I doing something wrong that the dates and complete location were not printed? In the Family Group Sheet for Family Residence it just lists the year and Street. Doesn't list the Town. -- John Chapman "THESE are the times that try men's souls.." Thomas Paine 1776 Home Page http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~johnjay/

In a message dated 7/23/2002 1:40:07 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > For instance a will could be transcribed and added to the notes section for > the fact 'will'. Or in source manager you can add the transcription in the > 'source text' field. > Both of these will work well. If you put the transcription in the notes, it will print out in the book and in other places where youprint notes. If you put the transcription in the source text, I believe it will print out each time a reference is made to that source? I am not sure of this because I much prefer such information as a note. Some have commented on the fact that you can't preserve formatting with tabs. For census, I just put mine in a narrative format, "John was listed on page 52 in Jefferson Twp, and is shown as age 40. He was shown as born in Indiana. He owned real estate worth $250. Also in the hshld....." I like this because it seems more user-friendly than a bunch of tabulations. Also, the chatty style lends itself to comments, such as gross differences between other years, neighbors, and so on.

One problem I see is that, if a tab is used in the word processor, a little square will appear for each one. Save the file to text before copying to paste to FO. The little square is no problem in printouts from *.rtf, but it is for Family Group Sheets and text reports. Betty ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christopher Bartlett" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 4:11 AM Subject: RE: [FO] Pasting transcribed documents into FO > Hello Pam > > I do this on a regular basis and not just with will transcriptions but > census > results etc. > > When you enter the new fact i.e. "probate" or if an original will under > "will" > I just paste it into the notes for that item. One of the advantages of FO is > that you can keep these notes separately which you cant do in a program > such as Family Tree Maker. > > regards > Chris Bartlett > > > > In today's Ancestry Daily News, there was an article by Juliana Smith > discussing the importance of transcribing documents. An excerpt from the > article is as follows: > > <Once transcribed, the transcription is also copy/pasted into my genealogy > software. This prompts me to enter in all the new information I found, > including the transcription as part of my source documentation -- a good way > to make sure sources are included for all entries. Now the document can come > with me on any future research trips snugly tucked away on my laptop.> > > I currently keep all my transcribed Word documents on the hard drive in > folders filed by family name and a brief description, and it had never > occurred to me to do what she is suggesting above. Has anyone done this, > and where in FO would one paste such a document? I'm currently running FO > 9.2. > > If it's possible to do this, I'd like to hear about the > advantages/disadvantages. > > Thanks! > > Pam Boice > > > ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== > FAMILY ORIGINS - Ordering, UPDATES, books, FAQ, FREE DEMO, Newsletter, etc. > http://formalsoft.com For the 8.03 and 9.02 PATCHES and what they fix, go > to: http://formalsoft.com/files.htm > > > --- > Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.375 / Virus Database: 210 - Release Date: 10/07/02 > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.375 / Virus Database: 210 - Release Date: 10/07/02 > > > ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== > FAMILY ORIGINS - Ordering, UPDATES, books, FAQ, FREE DEMO, Newsletter, etc. http://formalsoft.com For the 8.03 and 9.02 PATCHES and what they fix, go to: http://formalsoft.com/files.htm > >

The only problem with using the notes for storing information is you cannot maintain formatting such as columns. Dick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christopher Bartlett" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 3:11 AM Subject: RE: [FO] Pasting transcribed documents into FO > Hello Pam > > I do this on a regular basis and not just with will transcriptions but > census > results etc. > > When you enter the new fact i.e. "probate" or if an original will under > "will" > I just paste it into the notes for that item. One of the advantages of FO is > that you can keep these notes separately which you cant do in a program > such as Family Tree Maker. > > regards > Chris Bartlett > > > > In today's Ancestry Daily News, there was an article by Juliana Smith > discussing the importance of transcribing documents. An excerpt from the > article is as follows: > > <Once transcribed, the transcription is also copy/pasted into my genealogy > software. This prompts me to enter in all the new information I found, > including the transcription as part of my source documentation -- a good way > to make sure sources are included for all entries. Now the document can come > with me on any future research trips snugly tucked away on my laptop.> > > I currently keep all my transcribed Word documents on the hard drive in > folders filed by family name and a brief description, and it had never > occurred to me to do what she is suggesting above. Has anyone done this, > and where in FO would one paste such a document? I'm currently running FO > 9.2. > > If it's possible to do this, I'd like to hear about the > advantages/disadvantages. > > Thanks! > > Pam Boice > > > ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== > FAMILY ORIGINS - Ordering, UPDATES, books, FAQ, FREE DEMO, Newsletter, etc. > http://formalsoft.com For the 8.03 and 9.02 PATCHES and what they fix, go > to: http://formalsoft.com/files.htm > > > --- > Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.375 / Virus Database: 210 - Release Date: 10/07/02 > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.375 / Virus Database: 210 - Release Date: 10/07/02 > > > ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== > FAMILY ORIGINS - Ordering, UPDATES, books, FAQ, FREE DEMO, Newsletter, etc. http://formalsoft.com For the 8.03 and 9.02 PATCHES and what they fix, go to: http://formalsoft.com/files.htm

In today's Ancestry Daily News, there was an article by Juliana Smith discussing the importance of transcribing documents. An excerpt from the article is as follows: <Once transcribed, the transcription is also copy/pasted into my genealogy software. This prompts me to enter in all the new information I found, including the transcription as part of my source documentation -- a good way to make sure sources are included for all entries. Now the document can come with me on any future research trips snugly tucked away on my laptop.> I currently keep all my transcribed Word documents on the hard drive in folders filed by family name and a brief description, and it had never occurred to me to do what she is suggesting above. Has anyone done this, and where in FO would one paste such a document? I'm currently running FO 9.2. If it's possible to do this, I'd like to hear about the advantages/disadvantages. Thanks! Pam Boice

I do not think that there is an option to change any fonts, but the header and footer fonts, for Family Group sheets, whether in reports or in the journal. If there is, I haven't found it. Alfred D. Eller http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adelr/ ========================== ----- Original Message ----- From: "E.Rodier" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 10:05 AM Subject: [FO] Journal font > First draft printing of FO 10 Journal shows the group sheet with child notes > in a font smaller than Times New Roman 12. Pictures were selected for all > reports but not yet added to the file. > > Is there a way to make the group sheet and notes print in the same size font > as the outlines, sources and index? Main readers of family books are over > 70. > Elizabeth >

consider using the Multimedia capabilities for adding transcribed documents - nearly any format will work ----- Original Message ----- From: "Boice" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 1:23 PM Subject: [FO] Pasting transcribed documents into FO > In today's Ancestry Daily News, there was an article by Juliana Smith > discussing the importance of transcribing documents. An excerpt from the > article is as follows: > > <Once transcribed, the transcription is also copy/pasted into my genealogy > software. This prompts me to enter in all the new information I found, > including the transcription as part of my source documentation -- a good way > to make sure sources are included for all entries. Now the document can come > with me on any future research trips snugly tucked away on my laptop.> > > I currently keep all my transcribed Word documents on the hard drive in > folders filed by family name and a brief description, and it had never > occurred to me to do what she is suggesting above. Has anyone done this, > and where in FO would one paste such a document? I'm currently running FO > 9.2. > > If it's possible to do this, I'd like to hear about the > advantages/disadvantages. > > Thanks! > > Pam Boice > > > ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== > FAMILY ORIGINS - Ordering, UPDATES, books, FAQ, FREE DEMO, Newsletter, etc. http://formalsoft.com For the 8.03 and 9.02 PATCHES and what they fix, go to: http://formalsoft.com/files.htm

Be sure your Anti-Virus software is not running. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barkley, Reese" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 12:43 PM Subject: [FO] Installing problems > I tried to install FO 8.0 and FO 10.0 on my home PC with Windows XP with no > success. I tried installing on my office PC using Windows NT and it loaded > with no trouble. Anyone have a suggestion what my problem could be? I've > updated Windows XP at home and that didn't help. Both FO's did not install > using autorun, double-clicking the setup file on the CD, OR copying the > contents of the program CD to my harddrive and double-clicking the setup > file there. RB > > > ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== > FAMILY ORIGINS - Ordering, UPDATES, books, FAQ, FREE DEMO, Newsletter, etc. http://formalsoft.com For the 8.03 and 9.02 PATCHES and what they fix, go to: http://formalsoft.com/files.htm

I tried to install FO 8.0 and FO 10.0 on my home PC with Windows XP with no success. I tried installing on my office PC using Windows NT and it loaded with no trouble. Anyone have a suggestion what my problem could be? I've updated Windows XP at home and that didn't help. Both FO's did not install using autorun, double-clicking the setup file on the CD, OR copying the contents of the program CD to my harddrive and double-clicking the setup file there. RB

For instance a will could be transcribed and added to the notes section for the fact 'will'. Or in source manager you can add the transcription in the 'source text' field. Peggy Hooper My home page http://www.myroots.net/ mailto:[email protected] -----Original Message----- From: Boice [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 2:24 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [FO] Pasting transcribed documents into FO In today's Ancestry Daily News, there was an article by Juliana Smith discussing the importance of transcribing documents. An excerpt from the article is as follows: <Once transcribed, the transcription is also copy/pasted into my genealogy software. This prompts me to enter in all the new information I found, including the transcription as part of my source documentation -- a good way to make sure sources are included for all entries. Now the document can come with me on any future research trips snugly tucked away on my laptop.> I currently keep all my transcribed Word documents on the hard drive in folders filed by family name and a brief description, and it had never occurred to me to do what she is suggesting above. Has anyone done this, and where in FO would one paste such a document? I'm currently running FO 9.2. If it's possible to do this, I'd like to hear about the advantages/disadvantages. Thanks! Pam Boice ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== FAMILY ORIGINS - Ordering, UPDATES, books, FAQ, FREE DEMO, Newsletter, etc. http://formalsoft.com For the 8.03 and 9.02 PATCHES and what they fix, go to: http://formalsoft.com/files.htm

It is copied to the clipboard in Enhanced Meta File (EMF) format and can be pasted into many other applications, such as Word. EMF format is a graphic format and its contents can not be easily edited. FL Rose ----- Original Message ----- From: "J.D. Kotrla-Chipps" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 9:25 AM Subject: [FO] Copy.... where? > When I do a "Relationship Chart", it has a "Copy" button in the tool bar > at the top. Problem is, I can't find out where it copies the chart. > > Any clues as to how I might copy this information to a file? > > > > > ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== > Searchable ARCHIVES - (might wrap so you have to type in part of the name, or copy and paste) > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=FAMILY-ORIGINS-U SERS >

"J.D. Kotrla-Chipps" <[email protected]> wrote: >When I do a "Relationship Chart", it has a "Copy" button in the tool bar >at the top. Problem is, I can't find out where it copies the chart. It copies it to the clipboard as an enhanced metafile. You can then open a program like MSWord and from the edit menu there you can choose 'paste special' and paste the relationship chart into a Word document. Other programs may or may not handle the enhanced metafile properly. Wayne League

On Mon, 22 Jul 2002 [email protected] wrote: > The churches that wait a few years before baptizing believe that: > > Baptizing is for remission of sins. > Until a child is seven or eight years old they are free from sins. Actually, I think it can be more complicated than that and may vary widely from one denomination to another. My church does not usually do infant baptisms because we believe that baptism is a sign that a person has become a Christian by making the choice to commit their life to Jesus. So, infants are "dedicated" and only after someone becomes a Christian are they baptized. We believe that baptism does not result in forgiveness of sins, but is a sign of what has occurred. My understanding is that some churches that practice infant baptism believe that baptism itself takes away sin, so it is important to baptize a baby as soon as possible. For genealogy purposes, I'm not sure that it matters, but I don't think it is safe to assume that the baptism date is within a few months of the birth. You'd need to research the practices of the particular church before making that assumption. %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Jane Huggins, Ph.D., ATP "The only legitimate use of power is to serve and protect." -- Unknown, quoted [email protected] by John K. Smith %%%%%%%%%%%%% http://www-personal.engin.umich.edu/~janeh %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%

First draft printing of FO 10 Journal shows the group sheet with child notes in a font smaller than Times New Roman 12. Pictures were selected for all reports but not yet added to the file. Is there a way to make the group sheet and notes print in the same size font as the outlines, sources and index? Main readers of family books are over 70. Elizabeth

Other churches believe that a soul won't be permitted into heaven unless it is baptised so they do it as soon as possible. Jane Huggins wrote: >On Mon, 22 Jul 2002 [email protected] wrote: > >>The churches that wait a few years before baptizing believe that: >> >>Baptizing is for remission of sins. >>Until a child is seven or eight years old they are free from sins. >>