"E.J. (Jim) Fisher" <[email protected]> wrote: >The two fields I want to see are source name and source >description. If you were to go through all your sources and make the author field the same as the source name (or vice versa) then those conditions would be met. Wayne League

Is there a way to copy a small part of my family information from the FO data base to send to someone via email? Thanks for your help. Helen Leino

In a message dated 7/26/2002 12:56:27 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > I am not interested in hearing religious or legal opinions, but a means of > presenting facts. > Fact: a same sex marriage cannot produce a child, therefore there are no "genes" passed on from the lesbian who acts in place of the biological father in society. Thus, That person has no place in a genealogy chart. Using that premise, there can be no family tree, so you may as well dispose of your genealogy program. Earl B. Akers, Sr. Puyallup WA <A HREF="http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~banyantree">The Banyan Tree</A>

Thank you all. Find that I did not have print citations box checked. Have "only" 44 pages to check through. But then the problem list is one page. Have a cool day. Sally Thoreson

Rick I have just had a problem similar to this but with version 5 not 4. I had been using version 7 when my hard drive failed and lost all programs but not data. I had a backup as a GEDCOM but had entered considerable data since that time. because I could not find the disc to load version 7 I had to revert to loading an earlier version (5) which I still had the discs for but it would not open the newer files. I downloaded the trial version 8 from the FO website which read my file no problems and then exported a GEDCOM of the entire database. I was then able to set up the earlier version 5 and import the GEDCOM into the earlier version until I obtain version 10. Incidentally the safest backup is a GEDCOM because it can be read by any program. My suggestion is that if someone can provide her with version 4 she can then create a GEDCOM which she will then be able to import into the later version. If your client still has the original files IE not the backup version 5 should open them. Try changing the name to the file from .fob to .fow. but from a copy. I see Don has version 4 so this should be able to solve the problems. regards Chris Bartlett We have a customer who dropped into the shop to pickup a new version 10 of Family Origins yesterday. She had been a Family Origins 4.0 user but had taken a break from genealogy for a few years. In the meantime she lost her original Family Origins program (version 4.x)... but had kept her three different backup files. The current version of Family Origins will not open the old backup files. Some research on my part reveals that the backup file type for FO versions prior to 5.0 was .fob . The backup file type for version 5 and newer is .zip. Neither we nor our customer have a pre-version 5 copy of Family Origins, so are unable to get the files open. Does anyone know of a fix for this, or an application that will allow the .fob to be opened as a GEDCOM or any other modern filetype that can be then converted to either a GEDCOM or a .fow file. I tried TMG (The Master Genealogist) but its Genbridge doesn't work with any backup file of FO. Also tried to open the files as dbase and then via excel and Access to no avail. Changing the file extension to a .txt file opened but most of the result was a jumbled mess of characters. Any ideas??? Rick Roberts Global Genealogy & History Shoppe 13 Charles St., (Charles & Main) Milton, Ontario, Canada L9T 2G5 http://globalgenealogy.com ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== The "Family Origins® Wish List" http://formalsoft.com/wishlist.htm ??? FAQ ??? -- http://www.graabek.com/fow/fofaq.html --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.375 / Virus Database: 210 - Release Date: 10/07/02 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.375 / Virus Database: 210 - Release Date: 10/07/02

Typo in previous posting.... should be Buzbee ... not Bisbee Sorry... fingers moving faster that my brain :( Rick Roberts Global Genealogy & History Shoppe 13 Charles St., (Charles & Main) Milton, Ontario, Canada L9T 2G5 http://globalgenealogy.com -----Original Message----- From: Rick Roberts [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, July 26, 2002 10:33 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [FO] opening an old backup file .fob Many thanks to all who offered suggestions and assistance. Bruce Bisbee provided a solution just a few minutes after my posting went out. Our customer is delighted that she won't have to re-enter her data, and that she received such terrific support from Bruce (and the list). Again, many thanks to all of you who so generously offered to help :) Rick Roberts Global Genealogy & History Shoppe 13 Charles St., (Charles & Main) Milton, Ontario, Canada L9T 2G5 http://globalgenealogy.com ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rick Roberts" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 5:01 PM > Subject: [FO] opening an old backup file .fob > > > > We have a customer who dropped into the shop to pickup a new version 10 of > > Family Origins yesterday. > > > > She had been a Family Origins 4.0 user but had taken a break from > genealogy > > for a few years. In the meantime she lost her original Family Origins > > program (version 4.x)... but had kept her three different backup files. > > > > The current version of Family Origins will not open the old backup files. > > > > Some research on my part reveals that the backup file type for FO versions > > prior to 5.0 was .fob . The backup file type for version 5 and newer is > > .zip. > > > > Neither we nor our customer have a pre-version 5 copy of Family Origins, > so > > are unable to get the files open. > > > > Does anyone know of a fix for this, or an application that will allow the > > .fob to be opened as a GEDCOM or any other modern filetype that can be > then > > converted to either a GEDCOM or a .fow file. > > > > I tried TMG (The Master Genealogist) but its Genbridge doesn't work with > any > > backup file of FO. > > > > Also tried to open the files as dbase and then via excel and Access to no > > avail. Changing the file extension to a .txt file opened but most of the > > result was a jumbled mess of characters. > > > > Any ideas??? > > > > Rick Roberts > > Global Genealogy & History Shoppe > > 13 Charles St., (Charles & Main) > > Milton, Ontario, Canada L9T 2G5 > > http://globalgenealogy.com > > > > > > ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== > > The "Family Origins® Wish List" http://formalsoft.com/wishlist.htm > > ??? FAQ ??? -- http://www.graabek.com/fow/fofaq.html > > > > > > >

Message text written by INTERNET:[email protected] > I am using FO 10. I "believe" that with earlier versions we could print a list of sources with names or the other way around. Have tried to do this under the source manager and reports/lists and only the person highlighted comes up rather than all in the database. Any suggestions? Sally Thoreson < <lists> then <source manager> then <select a source> then <print source> the <citations> part of the report should show all records pointing to that source Try a source you are SURE is used multiple times. Paul Studly Cleveland/Chesterland, OH [email protected]

Many thanks to all who offered suggestions and assistance. Bruce Bisbee provided a solution just a few minutes after my posting went out. Our customer is delighted that she won't have to re-enter her data, and that she received such terrific support from Bruce (and the list). Again, many thanks to all of you who so generously offered to help :) Rick Roberts Global Genealogy & History Shoppe 13 Charles St., (Charles & Main) Milton, Ontario, Canada L9T 2G5 http://globalgenealogy.com ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rick Roberts" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 5:01 PM > Subject: [FO] opening an old backup file .fob > > > > We have a customer who dropped into the shop to pickup a new version 10 of > > Family Origins yesterday. > > > > She had been a Family Origins 4.0 user but had taken a break from > genealogy > > for a few years. In the meantime she lost her original Family Origins > > program (version 4.x)... but had kept her three different backup files. > > > > The current version of Family Origins will not open the old backup files. > > > > Some research on my part reveals that the backup file type for FO versions > > prior to 5.0 was .fob . The backup file type for version 5 and newer is > > .zip. > > > > Neither we nor our customer have a pre-version 5 copy of Family Origins, > so > > are unable to get the files open. > > > > Does anyone know of a fix for this, or an application that will allow the > > .fob to be opened as a GEDCOM or any other modern filetype that can be > then > > converted to either a GEDCOM or a .fow file. > > > > I tried TMG (The Master Genealogist) but its Genbridge doesn't work with > any > > backup file of FO. > > > > Also tried to open the files as dbase and then via excel and Access to no > > avail. Changing the file extension to a .txt file opened but most of the > > result was a jumbled mess of characters. > > > > Any ideas??? > > > > Rick Roberts > > Global Genealogy & History Shoppe > > 13 Charles St., (Charles & Main) > > Milton, Ontario, Canada L9T 2G5 > > http://globalgenealogy.com > > > > > > ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== > > The "Family Origins® Wish List" http://formalsoft.com/wishlist.htm > > ??? FAQ ??? -- http://www.graabek.com/fow/fofaq.html > > > > > > >

When I went to Reports, Lists, Source list, I got a 1000 page report (to screen) that showed all my sources and the individuals to whom they were attached. (V10) Keith Thompson Sally Thoreson wrote: > > Hello List: > I am using FO 10. I "believe" that with earlier versions we could print a list of sources with names or the other way around. Have tried to do this under the source manager and reports/lists and only the person highlighted comes up rather than all in the database. Any suggestions? Sally Thoreson > > ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== > Family Origins GenForum - http://genforum.genealogy.com/fo/ > Tech Support Knowledge Base http://www.familyorigins.com/support/ -- Keith Thompson, Worthington, OH Home Web Page: http://freepages.family.rootsweb.com/~kthompson/ Genealogy Web Page: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~kthompson If you think education is expensive, try ignorance.

It sounds like you are selecting: Reports, Notes and sources, . . . WRONG! <};-) try this instead: Everyone else said nearly the same thing: Reports, Lists, Source list Create MAKE SURE that there is a checkmark in the "Print citations" box Choose your output OK. Alfred D. Eller http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adelr/ ========================== ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sally Thoreson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, July 26, 2002 11:12 AM Subject: [FO] source list > Hello List: > I am using FO 10. I "believe" that with earlier versions we could print a list of sources with names or the other way around. Have tried to do this under the source manager and reports/lists and only the person highlighted comes up rather than all in the database. Any suggestions? Sally Thoreson > >

Hello List: I am using FO 10. I "believe" that with earlier versions we could print a list of sources with names or the other way around. Have tried to do this under the source manager and reports/lists and only the person highlighted comes up rather than all in the database. Any suggestions? Sally Thoreson

I have a copy of the Setup disk for FO 4.0 for Windows and also the update to F0 4.1 if still needed. I am not sure how it will work with later versions of Windows, however. Bill Case

On 25 Jul 2002, at 7:48, David Cann wrote: > I have "backups for backups" on my master database in FO, and I am > about to install FO 10 at work running on Windows NT. I just noted on > the CD it says "works with Windows 95 and Windows 98." Would it be > safe to assume that it will also run on NT? > > This will only be to install my weekly "backup of last resort," and > will not be used very much otherwise, but I would like to make sure > before I introduce a problem to my work computer. I'm using FO 10 on NT 4.0 with no problems that I'm aware of. Jim Fisher in Luton, Beds., UK. http://homepages.nildram.co.uk/~jimella/geneal.htm - Fam hist pages I use CDs produced by Archive CD Books to assist fellow researchers http://www.archivecdbooks.org

Rick, I have both 4.0 and 5.0 versions. Willing to help in whatever way I can to get her data back. Then she should update to version 10. There is nothing worse to a genealogist then having to starting all over from scratch. Don ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Roberts" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 5:01 PM Subject: [FO] opening an old backup file .fob > We have a customer who dropped into the shop to pickup a new version 10 of > Family Origins yesterday. > > She had been a Family Origins 4.0 user but had taken a break from genealogy > for a few years. In the meantime she lost her original Family Origins > program (version 4.x)... but had kept her three different backup files. > > The current version of Family Origins will not open the old backup files. > > Some research on my part reveals that the backup file type for FO versions > prior to 5.0 was .fob . The backup file type for version 5 and newer is > .zip. > > Neither we nor our customer have a pre-version 5 copy of Family Origins, so > are unable to get the files open. > > Does anyone know of a fix for this, or an application that will allow the > .fob to be opened as a GEDCOM or any other modern filetype that can be then > converted to either a GEDCOM or a .fow file. > > I tried TMG (The Master Genealogist) but its Genbridge doesn't work with any > backup file of FO. > > Also tried to open the files as dbase and then via excel and Access to no > avail. Changing the file extension to a .txt file opened but most of the > result was a jumbled mess of characters. > > Any ideas??? > > Rick Roberts > Global Genealogy & History Shoppe > 13 Charles St., (Charles & Main) > Milton, Ontario, Canada L9T 2G5 > http://globalgenealogy.com > > > ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== > The "Family Origins® Wish List" http://formalsoft.com/wishlist.htm > ??? FAQ ??? -- http://www.graabek.com/fow/fofaq.html > >

We have a customer who dropped into the shop to pickup a new version 10 of Family Origins yesterday. She had been a Family Origins 4.0 user but had taken a break from genealogy for a few years. In the meantime she lost her original Family Origins program (version 4.x)... but had kept her three different backup files. The current version of Family Origins will not open the old backup files. Some research on my part reveals that the backup file type for FO versions prior to 5.0 was .fob . The backup file type for version 5 and newer is .zip. Neither we nor our customer have a pre-version 5 copy of Family Origins, so are unable to get the files open. Does anyone know of a fix for this, or an application that will allow the .fob to be opened as a GEDCOM or any other modern filetype that can be then converted to either a GEDCOM or a .fow file. I tried TMG (The Master Genealogist) but its Genbridge doesn't work with any backup file of FO. Also tried to open the files as dbase and then via excel and Access to no avail. Changing the file extension to a .txt file opened but most of the result was a jumbled mess of characters. Any ideas??? Rick Roberts Global Genealogy & History Shoppe 13 Charles St., (Charles & Main) Milton, Ontario, Canada L9T 2G5 http://globalgenealogy.com

I want to thank everyone for your instructions and comments. This group is just wonderful! Pam

It sounds like your database got corrupted in some way about the time you shut down. That is a long path to the data files. I think that the file name was copied wrong from the error message. It should be only the first 7 letters of your database name, an identifying letter, the DOT and extension, DBF. That identifying letter just before the dot tells which DBF file it is that is corrupted, although there is little that the user can do about it. With Win 95, 98 or ME, there is a FOWin32.ini file in the Windows folder that tells Family Origins what options you have set. It sounds like you have it set to open the database(s) you were using when you shut down when it starts up. If you delete that fowin32.ini file you will be able to open FOW without a database loaded, then restore your most recent backup. I do not know if the version 9.0 to 9.02 patch will fix your problem or not. There were a lot of crashes and data corruptions on the Win 9X platforms before the patch was installed. Check your help menu and About Family Origins to see your version number, then, download and run the patch to upgrade it to 9.02 You can download the patch from the FormalSoft site at: http://www.formalsoft.com/files.htm If it has been a long time since you made your last backup, restore it into a new, empty folder so that it doesn't overwrite the original, there may be some information in that corrupted database that you can still extract some way. Alfred D. Eller http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adelr/ ========================== ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jane & Dick Weeks" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 1:07 PM Subject: [FO] Corrupted Database > > > I need guidance. I am running Family Origins 9 and Windows XP. No > problems until yesterday afternoon. > > I had entered some vital statistics when break time came along.. I > shutdown Family Origins. When I came back to work and tried to bring up FO > in the usual way by dbl clicking on the short cut on my desk top. > I got the following error message.: > > Error # 200 > Error # 83805 > > C;\Documents and Settings\Dick\MyDocuments\Dicks Files#1\ > Genealogy\Origins Databases\WeeksPikeDBF > > File is not a data base. Database corruption Detected > > When I click on this - OK or X it out (the only choices) I get the > following error message: > > Error #935 > > Error # ---94001 > > Null input parameter > unexpected d4 field > > This leads me to a screen where I may either click OK or close. Both take > me back to the desktop. > > How do I get back in business. I have tried everything I can think of with > no progress. And what did I do wrong so I don't do it again. > > Thanks, Dick Weeks >

I have used FO 10 under Windows NT. It worked fine. Carole Buskin [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: E.J. (Jim) Fisher [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 12:32 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [FO] FO 10 on Windows NT? On 25 Jul 2002, at 7:48, David Cann wrote: > I have "backups for backups" on my master database in FO, and I am > about to install FO 10 at work running on Windows NT. I just noted on > the CD it says "works with Windows 95 and Windows 98." Would it be > safe to assume that it will also run on NT? > > This will only be to install my weekly "backup of last resort," and > will not be used very much otherwise, but I would like to make sure > before I introduce a problem to my work computer. I'm using FO 10 on NT 4.0 with no problems that I'm aware of. Jim Fisher in Luton, Beds., UK. http://homepages.nildram.co.uk/~jimella/geneal.htm - Fam hist pages I use CDs produced by Archive CD Books to assist fellow researchers http://www.archivecdbooks.org ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== GETTING THE MOST OUT OF FAMILY ORIGINS by Bruce Buzbee - FO DEMO http://formalsoft.com NO WEB ACCESS? Write to [email protected] for ordering information.

I need guidance. I am running Family Origins 9 and Windows XP. No problems until yesterday afternoon. I had entered some vital statistics when break time came along.. I shutdown Family Origins. When I came back to work and tried to bring up FO in the usual way by dbl clicking on the short cut on my desk top. I got the following error message.: Error # 200 Error # 83805 C;\Documents and Settings\Dick\MyDocuments\Dicks Files#1\ Genealogy\Origins Databases\WeeksPikeDBF File is not a data base. Database corruption Detected When I click on this - OK or X it out (the only choices) I get the following error message: Error #935 Error # ---94001 Null input parameter unexpected d4 field This leads me to a screen where I may either click OK or close. Both take me back to the desktop. How do I get back in business. I have tried everything I can think of with no progress. And what did I do wrong so I don't do it again. Thanks, Dick Weeks

Although the archives are kind of "lite" (sic) on NT4 references...there *were* two(2) affirmations: http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/ifetch2?/u1/textindices/F/FAMILY-OR IGINS-USERS+2002+18253214427+F http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/ifetch2?/u1/textindices/F/FAMILY-OR IGINS-USERS+2000+41207311466+F -=Kevin Benson=- ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Cann" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 7:48 AM Subject: [FO] FO 10 on Windows NT? I have "backups for backups" on my master database in FO, and I am about to install FO 10 at work running on Windows NT. I just noted on the CD it says "works with Windows 95 and Windows 98." Would it be safe to assume that it will also run on NT? This will only be to install my weekly "backup of last resort," and will not be used very much otherwise, but I would like to make sure before I introduce a problem to my work computer. Thanks. David E. Cann [email protected]