I know this is off-topic for Family Origins, but hopefully Alfred will let it slide <g>. A lot of folks have been asking about our upcoming RootsMate software. And of course, since it won't be released until the end of the year, we aren't saying much about it. However... if you are in the Ontario, California area this week, stop by our booth at the Federation of Genealogical Societies conference to say hi and see a preview showing of this "top secret" program <g>. The conference is being held at the Ontario Convention Center. The vendor's area is free, and we will be there in booth 510: Thursday August 8 from 9:30am - 6:00pm Friday August 9 from 9:00am - 6:00pm Saturday August 10 from 9:00am - 4:00pm I look forward to meeting those of you who can make it. For more information about the conference itself, there is a link to their site on our site at: http://rootsmate.com. - Bruce <A HREF="http://RootsMate.com">http://RootsMate.com</A>

"Bendman" <[email protected]> wrote: >A friend has Ver. 5 can I open her backup in my 9.02 or do I have to have >her send me a Gedcom? You can restore (not open) her backup with your FO9.02. But she cannot restore your backup with her FO5 (because it is an earlier version and doesn't know about the advances in 9.02.) Neither can she open one of your databases. You will have to send her a gedcom file for her to get data from your FO9.02. Wayne League

"Carol and Alf Barrie" <[email protected]> wrote: >4. I opened another database (empty) and restored from the other backup. > >I now have one database where most people are duplicated, but because they >both have the same record number, I cannot merge them as they are the 'same >person'. Alfred suggested that you restore the database to a new, empty FOLDER, not to a new database. You cannot restore a backup to an existing database for the restore re-creates the database at the restore location. If you restore the backup to the same folder as the existing database, it will overwrite it with the backup .... at least it is supposed to. I don't remember whether FO7 would delete the existing database before it restored the backup or not. If it did not then that might explain how you are getting all the duplicate people with the same record number ... if FO7 is adding the restored database to the existing database rather than deleting the existing database first. But packing the database will not cause duplicates to appear. Since you had duplicates before you restored the database, that indicates you also had the duplicates before you backed up and therefore the duplicates are also in the backup. You might try exporting a gedcom file of your entire database and importing it back into a new database. (With a gedcom file, you DO create a new, empty database to import it into.) When FO imports a gedcom file, it ignores the record numbers in the gedcom, starts the first person with record number one and goes up sequentially with no duplicated record numbers. So, if duplicates are in the gedcom file, they should all have different record numbers in the imported database and you should be able to merge them. I can't imagine how FO allowed your database to get in such a condition. The only thing I can think of is if FO7 were appending a restore to an existing database rather than overwriting it. I vaguely remember old versions of FO might have done that and I don't remember if it was fixed by the time FO7 came along or not. Wayne League

If I recall correctly, this was the procedure I followed: 1. Made two backups - one to floppy and one to hard 2. Then I packed and compressed my database as I believed this would overcome some problems I was having with the programme. I then found that I had two of most people. 3. So, I restored from the backup - but with the same result. 4. I opened another database (empty) and restored from the other backup. I now have one database where most people are duplicated, but because they both have the same record number, I cannot merge them as they are the 'same person'. On the other database, it appears all the trees have become unlinked, and the sources are jumbled with the wrong people. What a mess!! Carol Barrie ----- Original Message ----- From: Alfred Eller <[email protected]> To: Carol and Alf Barrie <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2002 2:54 PM Subject: Re: [FO] FO V.7 duplicate persons problem > > I do not quite understand when this problem occurred. > > You did not have any duplicates before you packed the database? > > Do both of your backups have the duplicates? > Then you must have had the duplications before the backups were created. > > Are the record numbers the same on the two instances of the same person? > > =========== > > I would restore one of the backups to a NEW, EMPTY folder and see if it > is ok. Then if it is, I would try packing that. (The original backup > remains intact through a Restore operation, so you shouldn't need to > backup again.) > > > Alfred D. Eller > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adelr/ > > ========================== > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Carol and Alf Barrie" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 11:02 PM > Subject: [FO] FO V.7 duplicate persons problem > > > > Hello all > > > > I have had a problem when packing one of my databases. Despite having > made TWO backups (on on hard and one on floppy), there seems to be > corruption of data. > > > > I now have two identical people on most of the entries (as well as > duplicated sources). The programme will not let me merge two records > which are the same person. It also appears some of the sources have > been mixed up with the wrong people???? > > > > Any help out there? > > > > Thanks in advance > > Carol BArrie > > > >

A friend has Ver. 5 can I open her backup in my 9.02 or do I have to have her Send me a Gedcom? Thanks

Can someone tell me how to check my ActiveX control setting? I just accessed ancestry.com through "Opera" verses Netscape that I usually use. On Opera I had the "download advanced viewer" option that was missing with Netscape. When I tried to down load I got a box that said " ActiveX control failed to load Check browser security settings " The problem is I don't know where to find this setting. :-( Yvonne > Does anyone know if there is a help list (like the one for FO) for > ancestry.com? Some where that there is a Real live person. > I can't figure out how to get the "advanced image viewer" for the 1930 > census and the "basic viewer" intolerable.

Clicked off the source and then it came up. Annette DeCourcy Towler Home page for DeCourcy & Pack http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~decourcy/ Web page for St. Cloud Area Genealogists, Inc. http://www.rootsweb.com/~mnscag/SCAG/index.htm Family Researching in SE KY PACK, CHANDLER, WHEELER, FAIRCHILD, RAMEY, MILLER/MILAM/MILLAM, JAYNE, McSPADDEN Researching in NE KY DeCOURCY, ELLIS, BALL, MAINS, LEWIS, EVANS, SPILMAN, HUTCHINS, HAMILTON Researching in PA, IL WESSLING, SOMERS, SCHULER, PLAGGEE

Would like to get at the source of where you can change the check mark on 'Export as True footnote'. It shows up when you transfer files to the .rtf format. I am sure I turned this off before but now it is grayed out and need to know where to do it. I do not want the footnotes on each page, cause it copies every note instead of using ibid. Thanks Annette DeCourcy Towler Home page for DeCourcy & Pack http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~decourcy/ Web page for St. Cloud Area Genealogists, Inc. http://www.rootsweb.com/~mnscag/SCAG/index.htm Family Researching in SE KY PACK, CHANDLER, WHEELER, FAIRCHILD, RAMEY, MILLER/MILAM/MILLAM, JAYNE, McSPADDEN Researching in NE KY DeCOURCY, ELLIS, BALL, MAINS, LEWIS, EVANS, SPILMAN, HUTCHINS, HAMILTON Researching in PA, IL WESSLING, SOMERS, SCHULER, PLAGGEE

"Herb Clark" <[email protected]> wrote: >Is there a way to include a scanned document (jpg image full page) in >FO v10 so that it either prints in book format or journal format or >some other means? I know I can generate an RTF and add the image using >Word or Word Perfect. Is there something within FO? You can put the jpg document image in the individual's scrapbook. You can print the scrapbook as a photo chart or you can include the scrapbook in a journal. When printing the scrapbook, choose 1 row and 1 column to get only one picture per page. That way the document will be full page size. When you go to print, you have the option to print all pages, current page, or a range of pages. Wayne League

You can print scrapbooks (individual) in Journals and individual photos in Descendant and Ancestor books. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Herb Clark" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2002 7:42 PM Subject: [FO] Document image > Is there a way to include a scanned document (jpg image full page) in > FO v10 so that it either prints in book format or journal format or > some other means? I know I can generate an RTF and add the image using > Word or Word Perfect. Is there something within FO? > > Herb Clark > > > > ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== > Searchable ARCHIVES - > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=FAMILY-ORIGINS-U SERS >

Hi Goldie, I cannot answer your question about the digest unless you are simply not subscribing and unsubscribing in the correct manner, but I have some comments on filtering out attachments. First, if you have a working, up-to-date virus program you DO NOT need to worry about attachments. Of course if some email looks weird and it is some subject you know nothing about, you might as well delete the email without opening the attachment. I have been on the net about 6 years, receive over 100 emails a day, have never filtered out anything, and my Norton antivirus has found EVERY potentially bad email. If you want more protection than an un-to-date antivirus program, type Zone Alarm in a search, and find the url to download the free version of the program. Zone Alarm is a software program called a firewall. I used Zone Alarm in combination with my antivirus program before I upgraded to a cable modem (now have a different type of firewall built into my router), and found it a good program to have. Zone Alarm had a feature to scan email for known virus file extensions and rename them before any harm can come to someone's computer. If you were expecting attachments and believed them to be safe, you could rename them and open them. And, if any you opened turned out to have a virus, your virus program would intercept the virus. A firewall program also has technology that keeps someone from breaking into your computer and using it as a server to send viruses out to others, potentially without your knowledge. Your filter won't help this situation at all. Attachments are an excellent way of sharing genealogy materials. Several times a week I send research guidelines, family group sheets, pedigree charts, small computer generated books, or other FO generated documents as attachments. I would hate to think that many or most of the people I share information with, are filtering out attachments. To me it makes no sense, not to use attachments when they are such a useful feature of email and greatly enhances the ability to share genealogy material. Whether you want to be on digest or list mode, is obviously your decision. But I do urge you to rethink your "attachment policy" as you are likely missing material that might be very useful. Have you tried sending an email request to [email protected], putting subscribe as the only word in the body of the message and on the subject line? If you are doing this, and it does not work, the list administrator may be able to unsubscribe and subscribe you to the List (L) mode. To unsubscribe from the digest, use the same procedure substituting D for L and using the word unsubscribe. All rootsweb lists work the same way. This is a very useful list, and I think you will find it helpful once you get subscribed in the manner you choose (list vs. digest mode). Margaret Scheffler

Multiple scrapbooks can be included in FO 10 Journals with multiple reports. Take care to use each scrapbook for sources of similar shape if you want more than one image per page. My current FO 10 project has a mix of very wide and very tall source documents because the registration forms changed in Ontario around 1900. Decided to add the tall ones for the descendant and the wide ones to the spouse scrapbook or whatever combination fits best for each household. View the Journal frequently as the pictures are added to make sure you like the result. Didn't find a way to move pictures with captions from one scrapbook to another. Wasn't able to add family scrapbooks to a Journal, just one picture prints on a group sheet. Planning to use one indented descendant report for each of the children in the main file with an ancestor chart for the oldest or most important child as a kind of divider and the scrapbook(s) of sources following each report. One other decision was to remove facts and memos from the file used for the Journal so that basic events and notes read well enough in book form without editing. More research to be done and I don't want to take time editing sentences in each version of a word processor book. Elizabeth ----- Original Message ----- From: "Herb Clark" > Is there a way to include a scanned document (jpg image full page) in > FO v10 so that it either prints in book format or journal format or > some other means? I know I can generate an RTF and add the image using > Word or Word Perfect. Is there something within FO?

This is going to be a strange post..because I will never be able to read it and unless someone answers me...I will remain in the dark... this is my delima... I started folowing my family roots and discovered Rootsweb and in time discvered all their mailing lists..I joined several and then discovered that my computer won't accept them because most digest individual mails come through as attachments. I have a no attachments filter on Outlook Express... this proved an annoyance but I was able to go to the other groups and unsub from the digest and resub on the individual mail list.. My problem is..I can't find this group listed in any of the lists on Rootsweb..now I'm not saying, it isn't there..I just can't find it... so I tried doing it with the email addresses I have and I get back "mail undeliverable". So now, what to do??? Can someone take pity on me and mail me at my own email address [email protected] and tell me what to try next.. I don't really want to unsub..but I have system that works for most everything and so far it's filtered out a lot of viruses and I don't want to fool with it and risk messing it up. Thanks in advance Goldie Williams Goldie Williams in Aurora,Mo. in the USA, Proud American [email protected] http://pages.ivillage.com/gswms/goldiesveryownwwwindow http://pages.ivillage.com/gswms/goldiesenchantedrealm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Proud to be a "Sockee" http://www.gsolfot.com Keeper & Frequent User of the Virtual Soapbox P.I.ABC, for the Ancient & Honourable Emerald GSOLFOT Club --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- check out [email protected] if you love little castles Lady Goldie,Wise Woman of the Forest,Healer of the Realm --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.381 / Virus Database: 214 - Release Date: 8/2/02

Is there a way to include a scanned document (jpg image full page) in FO v10 so that it either prints in book format or journal format or some other means? I know I can generate an RTF and add the image using Word or Word Perfect. Is there something within FO? Herb Clark

MS Works, currently version 6, is a separate, less expensive word processor, data base & spread sheet. These all work seperately or together. But are not as advanced as programs such as Word, Excell, etc. To the best of my knowledge id\s doesn't have an index capability. Rod

MSWorks at least in the OEM versions from Gateway come with the Word version that is current at the time it is packaged. I had an old off the shelf version of MSWorks 3.0 that had its own word processor that appeared to be a very limited version of Word. My laptop has MSWorks with Word 2000 and my new desktop has MSWorks with Word 2002. Dan Annette D Towler wrote: > > To add to the information: MSWorks has Word 97 and yes it works with .rtf > files.

I have both of those programs Microsoft Works and Lotus Pro) and I am particularly happy with Lotus Pro as it does something I can't get Word or WP to do. But I can't get Lotus Pro or Microsoft Works to make an index from FO. I have to use Microsoft Works or Word Perfect. If anyone knows how to get Lotus Pro or Microsoft Works to make an index, I would appreciate a hint on how to accomplish this. Betty

To add to the information: MSWorks has Word 97 and yes it works with .rtf files. I like them cause you can update the information from FO. Take out extra lines, correct spelling and if you put it in 2 column formats it takes less pages than all in one column (Newspaper publishers trick). After you have done the updates and editing, save it in the Word format .doc and it will take less space on your hard drive. Some hints Annette DeCourcy Towler Home page for DeCourcy & Pack http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~decourcy/ Web page for St. Cloud Area Genealogists, Inc. http://www.rootsweb.com/~mnscag/SCAG/index.htm Family Researching in SE KY PACK, CHANDLER, WHEELER, FAIRCHILD, RAMEY, MILLER/MILAM/MILLAM, JAYNE, McSPADDEN Researching in NE KY DeCOURCY, ELLIS, BALL, MAINS, LEWIS, EVANS, SPILMAN, HUTCHINS, HAMILTON Researching in PA, IL WESSLING, SOMERS, SCHULER, PLAGGEE -----Original Message----- From: JESSE DAVIS [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2002 1:05 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [FO] Missing index .rtf & program which uses them Wonder if Open Office at http://www.OpenOffice.org would work? J Davis ----- Original Message ----- From: Charlie Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2002 1:42 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [FO] Missing index .rtf & program which uses them MScheffler wrote: > > For the person who needs WORD or another word processor capable of > using .rtf files, Microsoft, had in the past, a cd -- Home > Essentials98 -- which included Word97. I am not sure if they are > still producing such a collection of programs, or one containing Word, > but it was relatively inexpensive compared to the office suite and > came free with new computers at that time. > > There used to be an office suite by STAR or STARR publishers that > was similar to the Microsoft suite and Word, but could be downloaded > for free. I never used it, but a friend said it did almost everthing > that the Microsoft Word suite did, so one might do a search on Google > and see what you turn up. I did see a program by Starr in a Cosco > store on the West coast a couple weeks ago. So someone who uses it, > might be able to tell the gentleman if it uses .rtf files. > > Perhaps a web search for rtf might turn up some possibilities > for you for lower cost programs with the capability to create the FO > index from an rtf file. > > Margaret Scheffler > There are a few alternatives for those not wanting to buy MS Word, but wanting to create an index from the RTF files that FO generates. Lotus (IBM now) has a software suite that can be bought very reasonable, and the word processor does create an index. WordPerfect also has a very good word processor that will generate an index. Star Office (a new product by Sun) has an excellent word processor that is file compatible with MS Word (it will read a MS Word file, and also write back a file that MS Word will accept)..... I would think it does an index, but I haven't actually tried to do one with it yet. Some of these products can be bought very cheap if you are willing to accept "last year's" version. One on-line shop that sometimes has specials on WordPerfect and Lotus is Direct Deals Dot Com(http://www.directdeals.com/). WordPerfect Office 2002 is selling for just over $20 right now. It's an OEM version, which means that this is the version that's supplied with a computer when you buy a computer that includes Wordperfect. -- Charlie Hoffpauir http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~charlieh/ ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== Searchable ARCHIVES - http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=FAMILY-ORIGINS-U SERS ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== PLEASE send personal replies and "THANK YOU" message privately. All messages on this list are archived and archiving takes up valuable space.

Patricia wrote: > > I tried to produce an index in OpenOffice but couldn't get it to do anything but the title "Index" -- no entries. > The help file indicated it should work exactly the way MS Word does but I could produce an index in Word > but not in OpenOffice on the same document. I could very well be missing something though. > Happy searchin' > Pat > > 8/3/2002 1:45:22 PM, Charlie <[email protected]> wrote: > > >JESSE DAVIS wrote: > >> > >> Wonder if Open Office at > >> http://www.OpenOffice.org > >> would work? > >> J Davis > > > >My understanding is that Open Office is a somewhat less featured > >version of Star Office. I haven't yet tried to generate an index with > >Star Office, but I have that on my "list" and will post back here if > >it works. > > > >-- > >Charlie Hoffpauir > >http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~charlieh/ > > > > I tired to produce the index in Star Office. It does have indexing features, but they apparently are enough different from MS word that they don't work in Star Office either. I m probably overlooking something, but I'm a really new user of Star Office, and am still a lot more familiar with MS Word and Wordperfect. I'd be interested to hear if anyone is able to produce an index from the FO-generated RTF file using Star Office or Open Office. -- Charlie Hoffpauir http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~charlieh/

Wonder if Open Office at http://www.OpenOffice.org would work? J Davis ----- Original Message ----- From: Charlie Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2002 1:42 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [FO] Missing index .rtf & program which uses them MScheffler wrote: > > For the person who needs WORD or another word processor capable of > using .rtf files, Microsoft, had in the past, a cd -- Home > Essentials98 -- which included Word97. I am not sure if they are > still producing such a collection of programs, or one containing Word, > but it was relatively inexpensive compared to the office suite and > came free with new computers at that time. > > There used to be an office suite by STAR or STARR publishers that > was similar to the Microsoft suite and Word, but could be downloaded > for free. I never used it, but a friend said it did almost everthing > that the Microsoft Word suite did, so one might do a search on Google > and see what you turn up. I did see a program by Starr in a Cosco > store on the West coast a couple weeks ago. So someone who uses it, > might be able to tell the gentleman if it uses .rtf files. > > Perhaps a web search for rtf might turn up some possibilities > for you for lower cost programs with the capability to create the FO > index from an rtf file. > > Margaret Scheffler > There are a few alternatives for those not wanting to buy MS Word, but wanting to create an index from the RTF files that FO generates. Lotus (IBM now) has a software suite that can be bought very reasonable, and the word processor does create an index. WordPerfect also has a very good word processor that will generate an index. Star Office (a new product by Sun) has an excellent word processor that is file compatible with MS Word (it will read a MS Word file, and also write back a file that MS Word will accept)..... I would think it does an index, but I haven't actually tried to do one with it yet. Some of these products can be bought very cheap if you are willing to accept "last year's" version. One on-line shop that sometimes has specials on WordPerfect and Lotus is Direct Deals Dot Com(http://www.directdeals.com/). WordPerfect Office 2002 is selling for just over $20 right now. It's an OEM version, which means that this is the version that's supplied with a computer when you buy a computer that includes Wordperfect. -- Charlie Hoffpauir http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~charlieh/ ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== Searchable ARCHIVES - http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS