Something sounds amiss... Make sure you check the Help->About Family Origins to determine which version you are in when performing functions. Sounds like you installed FO10 and left FO9.02 remaining installed. As such, there are two(2) shortcut icons in the program menus (and desktop) that access the different versions in their different directories.. IF you have not never YET chosen File->Restore from within FO 10... then all your databases should still be in FO 9.02 format (not "converted to FO10" as Heather describes) and Once you confirm that you are in FO10 and choose File->Restore, it will convert as Heather explains. But, IF you have already run File->Restore from in FO10 and backed up... the resulting backup .zip files will not restore from within FO9.02. Hope this makes sense? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Heather Shelton" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2002 4:09 PM Subject: Re: [FO] Problem with upgrade from 9.02 to 10 > You don't need to create a GEDCOM to import your database into FO 10. > I just upgraded from v 8 to 10 and was given the warning "The database > you want to open . . . is from an earlier version of Family Origins. If > you continue, Family Origins will convert this database to the current > version. Once the database is converted, you will need to create a > GEDCOM file if you want to move your data back to an earlier version of > Family Origins." > I have not had any problems converting and using my databases. Is the > the message you are getting? If so, you can jus go ahead with the > conversion and you only have to create a GEDCOM if you want to take > your data back to an older version of the program. > > If that's not the problem, are you accidentally trying to open the > older version of the program? On my computer, the v10 upgrade > overwrote v8, so even though v8 is still on my menu (until I delete it) > it is no longer functional. I would have to reinstall the old program > to have it work. > > My upgrade has gone very smoothly, so I hope this answers your > question. If not, maybe someone else has an idea. > Good luck, > Heather > > On Fri, 9 Aug 2002 23:42:18 EDT, [email protected] said: > > Hello all, > > I've recently installed the upgrade I received from Family > > Origins and > > I'm having a problem. When I tried to open the database through "file" > > "open > > database" I get the following message... > > (a yellow triangle with an exclamation point in it) This database was > > created by a newer version of Family Origins. You need to create a > > GEDCOM > > from the newer version to import into this version. > > I'm confused by the wording of this message. How can I create a GEDCOM > > from > > the newer version if I every time I click on it I get this message? > > What did > > I do wrong and how do I undo it so I can access my ancestors again? > > > > Barbara Wright > > Slidell, Louisiana > > [email protected] > > > > Support our troops. > > Remember our Veterans. > > > > > > ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== > > FAMILY ORIGINS - Ordering, UPDATES, books, FAQ, FREE DEMO, Newsletter, > > etc. http://formalsoft.com For the 8.03 and 9.02 PATCHES and what they > > fix, go to: http://formalsoft.com/files.htm > > > > > > -- > Heather Shelton > [email protected] > > -- > http://fastmail.fm - One of many happy users: > http://www.fastmail.fm/docs/quotes.html > > > ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== > Family Origins GenForum - http://genforum.genealogy.com/fo/ > Tech Support Knowledge Base http://www.familyorigins.com/support/ > >

----- Original Message ----- From: "Harry Hinkle" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2002 3:44 PM Subject: [FO] Back Up > I would like to back up my FO information on a 250 Zip drive but the > only option I can see is to put the info on floppy disks, is there any > way to change this? > Thank You > Harry Hinkle > Lewiston, ID. > Choose <Single disk compressed backup> then browse to the drive letter for for your Zip drive!

Hello, I'm hoping someone can help me with a very recent problem. I am using Family Origins v. 9.02 with Windows 98. In order to share a Family Group Sheet as an email attachment, I had changed my printer setup from my normal default ink jet to an installed Adobe 3.0 PDF Writer. I created the group sheet, viewed it on screen, and clicked on the PRINT button on the menu bar at the top of the screen. I followed all the prompts, created the PDF file, and emailed it as an attachment. I returned to Family Origins & did a little more work. From Lists | Source Manager, I decided to print out a paper copy of a list of individuals who all share a particular source. I created the report, viewed it on screen and clicked on the PRINT button on the menu bar at the top of the screen. When the dialogue box for the Acrobat PDFWriter appeared, I realized that I had not changed the printer set up back to my default ink jet. I canceled the PDFWriter, and the dialogue box associated with it disappeared. The screen view of the report was left on the screen. It was not an active window, nor could I make it active by clicking in the window. No part of Family Origins was responsive. Other programs open at the time were responsive and I closed them all down. After waiting awhile, I hit CTL-ALT-DELETE and ended the session with Family Origins. I re-launched Family Origins and opened my database. My default printer, not the PDFWriter, was active and I proceeded to recreate the Source Manger report. As soon as I clicked through List | Source Manger, I encountered 2 CODEBASE ERROR warning boxes. The first read: Error #: -200 Error #: 83805 File is not a data file database corruption detected C:\ . . .\FIEGENBS.DBF C:\ . . .\FIEGENBS.DBF The 2nd warning read: Error #: -935 Error #: 94001 Null Input Parameter unexpected d4 field When I clicked out of the last warning box, Family Origins shut down. I can open Family Origins, and call up my database. I can navigate through the database in both Tree and Family view. I can create a backup of this corrupted database. I can not: print a Source List report; export a GEDCOM; check File | Information; view/print a family group sheet, etc. Each such operation brings back both the Error warning boxes, with the same error numbers I have listed. I do have some recent backups of my uncorrupted database, and I believe I have not added too much information since the last backup, although what those changes might be, I can not for the life of me recall. Therefore, I would be very happy to get my present database back, uncorrupted. We have enjoyed a long and successful collaboration; I would hate for it to end this way. If anyone has some suggestions for a fix to my problem, I would be very grateful. Thanks is advance, Mark

1. The software (from Adobe, not FOW) for the PDF Printer does not work properly if you cancel a print job to the PDF Writer. Most times it will crash your system. 2. The Codebase error is telling you that your "S" database, the Sources, was corrupted when the system hung. The only real fix is a Restore from backup. Should you encounter the wrong printer selected in the future, continue with the print job, but send the file to a folder using an easy to ID name, then delete it after the fact. The ability of not being able to select the printer at report time has problem for a long time and has been on the wish list. It seems that it was something in the design of the Preview that prevented this change. Maybe with RM later this year it will be fixed. For your restore problem, if it is not current, you may loose some data. Since it is the Source database, you may be able to minimize the impact. Try restoring your backup to another folder, then copy only the "S" file over the top of your existing corrupt file. Start FOW, open the database (if not automatic), then Pack it. It it works, make an immediate Backup just in case. Keep you original Backup separate. Dick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Fiegenbaum" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2002 2:39 PM Subject: [FO] Codebase Error > Hello, > > I'm hoping someone can help me with a very recent problem. > > I am using Family Origins v. 9.02 with Windows 98. > > In order to share a Family Group Sheet as an email attachment, I had changed my > printer setup from my normal default ink jet to an installed Adobe 3.0 PDF > Writer. > > I created the group sheet, viewed it on screen, and clicked on the PRINT button > on the menu bar at the top of the screen. I followed all the prompts, created > the PDF file, and emailed it as an attachment. > > I returned to Family Origins & did a little more work. From Lists | Source > Manager, I decided to print out a paper copy of a list of individuals who all > share a particular source. I created the report, viewed it on screen and > clicked on the PRINT button on the menu bar at the top of the screen. When the > dialogue box for the Acrobat PDFWriter appeared, I realized that I had not > changed the printer set up back to my default ink jet. I canceled the > PDFWriter, and the dialogue box associated with it disappeared. > > The screen view of the report was left on the screen. It was not an active > window, nor could I make it active by clicking in the window. No part of Family > Origins was responsive. > > Other programs open at the time were responsive and I closed them all down. > After waiting awhile, I hit CTL-ALT-DELETE and ended the session with Family > Origins. > > I re-launched Family Origins and opened my database. My default printer, not > the PDFWriter, was active and I proceeded to recreate the Source Manger report. > > As soon as I clicked through List | Source Manger, I encountered 2 CODEBASE > ERROR warning boxes. > > The first read: > > Error #: -200 > Error #: 83805 > File is not a data file database corruption detected > C:\ . . .\FIEGENBS.DBF > C:\ . . .\FIEGENBS.DBF > > The 2nd warning read: > > Error #: -935 > Error #: 94001 > Null Input Parameter unexpected d4 field > > When I clicked out of the last warning box, Family Origins shut down. > > I can open Family Origins, and call up my database. I can navigate > through the database in both Tree and Family view. I can create a backup of > this corrupted database. > > I can not: print a Source List report; export a GEDCOM; check File | > Information; view/print a family group sheet, etc. Each such operation brings > back both the Error warning boxes, with the same error numbers I have listed. > > I do have some recent backups of my uncorrupted database, and I believe I have > not added too much information since the last backup, although what those > changes might be, I can not for the life of me recall. Therefore, I would be > very happy to get my present database back, uncorrupted. We have enjoyed a long > and successful collaboration; I would hate for it to end this way. > > If anyone has some suggestions for a fix to my problem, I would be very > grateful. > > Thanks is advance, > Mark > > > ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== > FAMILY ORIGINS - Ordering, UPDATES, books, FAQ, FREE DEMO, Newsletter, etc. http://formalsoft.com For the 8.03 and 9.02 PATCHES and what they fix, go to: http://formalsoft.com/files.htm

Hi, Someone has been visiting the Federation of Genealogical Societies conference? And did visiting the Family Origins / Rootsmate booth? Can you tell us something about the preview of this "top secret" program Rootsmate? Thanx Kees Hessels

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I would like to back up my FO information on a 250 Zip drive but the only option I can see is to put the info on floppy disks, is there any way to change this? Thank You Harry Hinkle Lewiston, ID.

Hi list, Recently I added a new source to my list of sources. Have done this lots of times in the past with no problem, but in this time, my finger must have slipped and I now find that in some cases, the new source has replaced one of my old sources. Question: Is there away I can obtain a list of all the facts which have my new source so that I can correct the error? I have v10 Thanks Ralph Jobling

Dear list, Is there anyone who can help me get out of a mess. I have the following errors on my Family Origins Database that makes it impossible for me to get into my data base. Errors as follows: Error #60 Error# 90615 Opening files file 4 open Second error message: Error #935 Error #94001 Null input parameter d 4 field unexpected I would appreciate any help I can get. Thank you, June Newman [email protected]

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Hi : I ordered FOW v10 about a month ago from http://www.formalsoft.com over the internet and it arrived in three days. Congratulations to Formalsoft for having such an efficient service. Thanks. Bye for now Stewart GAMMIE......... Coquitlam, B.C. Canada ANESFHS ................... #7021 Tay Valley FHS........... .#3930 Reply to ..................... [email protected] Web Page.................. http://www.genealogy.com/users/g/a/m/Stewart-Gammie/?Welcome=987129424 Researching ................ GAMMIE,SHARP,CHRISTIE in Aberdeenshire & Banffshire STEWART,WOOD,BELL in Fife,Perthshire & Angus (There are no attachments to this mail. Computer is virus free at time of sending) *************************************************************** ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Mahan" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: 8-Aug-02 7:29 AM Subject: Re: [FO] Re: FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-D Digest V02 #221 > If your account has been billed I would call the bank and cancel the charge > for not providing a product. If your account has not been charged then, put > a stop on the check/charge, then go to http://www.formalsoft.com and order > the Version 10. Or wait for Rootsmate to come out at the end of the Year. > http://rootsmate.com. > > HAVE A GREAT DAY!!! > > Jim Mahan > > --- http://james.mahan.tripod.com/ > --- http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=jrmahan > > --- http://mahanscadsolutions.com > > --- "We will not waiver, we will not tire, we will not falter > --- and we will not fail. Peace and Freedom will prevail." > --- President George W. Bush > --- 7 October 2001 > > --- ALL OUT-GOING AND INCOMING MAIL IS SCANNED BY NORTON ANTIVIRUS.!! > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Peggy Hooper" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 5:14 AM > Subject: RE: [FO] Re: FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-D Digest V02 #221 > > > I would be pulling my hair out if I had waited 6 months for anything let > alone it being FO! > > Peggy Hooper > My home page http://www.myroots.net/ > mailto:[email protected] > > -----Original Message----- > From: Colin Wilton-Davies [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 4:55 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [FO] Re: FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-D Digest V02 #221 > > I was green with envy of all the people who were writing about the > advantages of using PDF files. I ordered an upgrade to version 10 last > FEBRUARY from S&N and it still hasn't arrived; they claim the > manufacturer/publisher hasn't sent the upgrades yet. > Colin Wilton-Davies in sunny Jersey on the day of our Battle of Flowers > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: > http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx > > > ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== > UNSUBSCRIBE? Send the word: UNSUBSCRIBE(inside the message) and no > additional text to: [email protected] > > > ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== > The "Family Origins® Wish List" http://formalsoft.com/wishlist.htm > ??? FAQ ??? -- http://www.graabek.com/fow/fofaq.html > > ______________________________

Hello all, I've recently installed the upgrade I received from Family Origins and I'm having a problem. When I tried to open the database through "file" "open database" I get the following message... (a yellow triangle with an exclamation point in it) This database was created by a newer version of Family Origins. You need to create a GEDCOM from the newer version to import into this version. I'm confused by the wording of this message. How can I create a GEDCOM from the newer version if I every time I click on it I get this message? What did I do wrong and how do I undo it so I can access my ancestors again? Barbara Wright Slidell, Louisiana [email protected] Support our troops. Remember our Veterans.

You can go to the "Reports" menu, select "Lists" and "Fact usage list." Then you choose the fact you are interested in, "Birth" for instance, then choose "Only those with more than one of this fact" and hit the [OK] button. You will have to do it again for the Death duplicates. Alfred D. Eller http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adelr/ ========================== ----- Original Message ----- From: "Betty Stokes" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, August 09, 2002 9:49 PM Subject: [FO] More than one event > I had occasion to do some extensive merging. In a lot of cases, I have more than one birth, marriage, death date. I chose not to just delete the less likely as some of the dates are from different sources with slightly different information. For instance, one might have a birth year from a census and another might have a full date from a tombstone. Or another might be from a Bible record. > > Until I get my sources of information straight, I don't want to do any deleting. > > Is there a way I can list those individuals who have more than one birth date or death date, etc.? > > Betty >

For the one source: go to the "Lists" menu, select "Source manager," Find and highlight the source and select print. For all the sources: Go to the"Reports" menu, Select "Lists," then "Source List," click on "Create," choose to "Print Citations" and where you want the report sent to. Alfred D. Eller http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adelr/ ========================== ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ralph Jobling" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, August 09, 2002 9:20 PM Subject: [FO] Searching > Hi list, > > Recently I added a new source to my list of sources. Have done this lots of times in the past with no problem, but in this time, my finger must have slipped and I now find that in some cases, the new source has replaced one of my old sources. > > Question: Is there away I can obtain a list of all the facts which have my new source so that I can correct the error? > > I have v10 > > Thanks Ralph Jobling >

I had occasion to do some extensive merging. In a lot of cases, I have more than one birth, marriage, death date. I chose not to just delete the less likely as some of the dates are from different sources with slightly different information. For instance, one might have a birth year from a census and another might have a full date from a tombstone. Or another might be from a Bible record. Until I get my sources of information straight, I don't want to do any deleting. Is there a way I can list those individuals who have more than one birth date or death date, etc.? Betty

Another genealogy program includes spouse notes and list of children for the starting person of the Ahnentafel report (ancestors by generation) but I don't use it because several direct ancestors were raised in blended households. The step-siblings and step-parents are often very important people in the family stories. Marriage certificate (second marriage, wife Margaret) for George age 77 turned out to have the names of his parents and identified a mysterious woman in the 1881 census who was not mentioned in the family history collected since 1967. FO 10 Journal can include multiple reports and charts. That is easier than editing RTF files for a database that changes frequently. My FO 10 Journal didn't get far because it started with a GEDCOM and had mixed sizes of source documents in the scrapbooks. If a book report is planned to start frequently with the same person, I like to include information about their other relatives in the individual notes. Gladys T., a distant cousin, lived with the family in (place) while taking her hairdressing course. She was introduced to her future husband by a mutual cousin and became a best friend of Flo (youngest daughter.) Elizabeth ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> > What I plan to do in my ancestor books is export to .rtf file in a word > processor, then make a separate "book" of two generations for the spouse and > cut and paste into the original. That way it will be in the same format as > the main book.

For all of you who tried to help me with this problem, Thank you. I hope this helps some of you with the same problem. (FYI, After complaining about not being able to get the "advanced viewer" for the 1930 census, I recently received this message from Ancestry help people.) "Dear Yvonne, Currently the Advanced Image Viewer for the 1930 Census only works correctly in Microsoft Internet Explorer. For full access to the Census Images for 1930, you will need to download this software. You can download it for free at the following web address: Microsoft Internet Explorer 6.0 http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/downloads/ie6/default.asp" Now they tell us! I hope this helps someone else with their frustration level ! Yvonne

I hate to be a drag but I just got this update for Legacy, and I am intrigued because that is what I am trying to do in FOW now from 8509 places to 7498 so far, but occasionally I must stop and do something else as it does get tiresome so then I go to where occupations have been entered as place and am making those right there are also tons of" had 9 or had 12" children so I go in and make those into notes NOT PLACES and remove the reference as a place one by one.!!! This has sure taught me a lesson in importing files NOT TO DO IT BLINDLY!!!! ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ * Combining Multiple Locations in Legacy Did you know multiple locations can be combined at once on the Master Location List by highlighting an entire group at the same time? Often, through entering information and by importing records from other people you will end up with two or more variations of the same location, spelled a little bit differently. For example, you might end up with: Pompton Pl., Morris, NJ Pompton Plains, Morris, NJ Pompton Plains, Morris Co., NJ Pompton Plains, Morris, New Jersey Pompton Plains, Morris, New Jersey, USA All of these locations are obviously the same place and should be combined into just one, "good", location name. This is very easy to do in Legacy. To combine multiple location: SANDRA TYLER DUNCAN Sacramento,CA http://www.gencircles.com/users/purplevw1/1/ http://www.progenealogists.com/genealogysleuthb.htm The most amazing search engine ever http://www.google.com/ all my mail scanned by Norton

I do want to save just like you describe below and My cable was offline so when it came back up I tried to do the save on a very small mailbox,only 6 messages but I tried it as a test but it said that my MAPI store could not be found so I am still looking for other ways I only have a few set to go directly to a folder and every morning I go through my mail ,over 60 messages this morning and after I delete the unwanted ones I sort and or answer as I go and the only window that comes up says Corel 8 Settings in a box Still hoping I can do this Sandra ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Meador" <[email protected]> To: "'Sandra E. T. Duncan'" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 9:10 PM Subject: RE: [FO] Saved E-Mail > Sandra, > > From my understanding of your e-mail - you want to save your e-mails in > some organized fashion so that you can read them later. I have been > doing this for years and it is very easy. > > Rough steps (using Outlook, not Express). > > Set rules to have mail go directly to specific folders. If you don't > want to do this, have all mail come to your inbox and hold and drop the > mail with your mouse to the special folders you want them to go into. > (I always delete unwanted e-mail immediately upon receipt). > > When you have many (50-100) e-mails in a specific folder you can then > "export" it to a file. > > This process starts with the "file" menu with the selection of > "import-export" > > You then select "export to a file" > > You then select "comma separated values (windows)" > > Then they will ask you for a folder to export > > Then you are asked for name and "path" top put the new file into. Do > this, I usually include a file name such a c:\documents\Family Origins > e-mail 8-8-02. > > This will give you a file that you can open using Word (be sure that all > files are shown). The file you want to open will be an Excel file with > the name you have given it. > > Then you do a "save-as" and select "rich text" for the format. - use the > same name. > > You now have a Word document that you can read and manipulate with all > the features of Word. I use the "replace command to rid myself of a lot > of the unnecessary information. > > You can use this process to create several files and use the file insert > command within Word to combine files into one larger file over time. > > Don't forget to delete the e-mails from the outlook folder. > > I use a text search program (Quick Find) to locate strings of > information (text) that I am researching. I have over 30,000 pages of > e-mails in documents. > > Hope this helps. > > Bob Meador > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Sandra E. T. Duncan [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 2:48 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [FO] Saved E-Mail > > I save E-mail all the time and I have tons saved for [FO] Now I would > like > to put it all on a "CD" to save, I already have 106 for August > Yes I know there are archives but I sure would like to do this while I > am > still young any help ? > SANDRA TYLER DUNCAN > Sacramento,CA > http://www.gencircles.com/users/purplevw1/1/ > http://www.progenealogists.com/genealogysleuthb.htm > all my mail scanned by Norton > Below is the only place that will accept attachments > [email protected] > > > > > ==== FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Mailing List ==== > My very basic Windows beginners help: > http://freepages.computers.rootsweb.com/~adelr/index.htm > basic HTML: http://freepages.computers.rootsweb.com/~pasher/ > > >

What I plan to do in my ancestor books is export to .rtf file in a word processor, then make a separate "book" of two generations for the spouse and cut and paste into the original. That way it will be in the same format as the main book. Amazing what we have to do just because our minds don't work the same way Bruce's does, isn't it?