For those of us on Juno, PLEASE DON'T SEND ATTACHMENTS!!! If you want to send an attachment, send it to those who reply that they WANT it. I also agree with the FOWer that said the "NO NOTES" term printing on a group sheet when all you have is sources is unsightly! Too bad there is no way to select EITHER notes or sources or both when printing group sheets (hint hint!) Just my 2 cents -chRISTOpher rumcd@juno.com [home page] http://www.open.org/rumcd [surnames] http://www.open.org/rumcd/surnames.htm [World GenWeb Finland] http://www.open.org/rumcd/genweb/finn.html

..."to administer Christian baptism to..." In the context of the GEDCOM [CHR] it is the phrase given to denote infant baptism. I take no offense by it (being an infant baptized Lutheran Christian) and understand the necessary delineation. The GEDCOM standards say "the religious event (non-LDS) of baptizing and/or naming a child." On the other hand, you can go out of step with the majority of the genealogy public and enter infant baptisms under the GEDCOM [BAPM] which is predominately known as believer baptism, although the standard says " The event of baptism (non-LDS) performed in infancy or later." For my 2 cents, I use CHR because most programs have a default setting of it as a NEAR BIRTH event (great when birth records are missing.) For my Baptist ancestors, I add BAPM to denote a Baptism performed at the so-called "age of accountability" or later. Most of my ancestors that have any kind of baptism information are Lutheran and hence baptized as infants. On FOW, you can go into the edit fact and enter "was baptized" in place of "was christened", keeping the CHR tag so GEDCOM imports will work properly. Sorry for the windy reply, just thought you might want another perspective. If I was on the original GEDCOM committee in 198X, I would be siding with you and would have suggested BAPI for Infant and BAPA for adult and BAPL for LDS, but there has been too much water under the bridge IMHO to make things sufficiently backward compatible :-) Perhaps you view this as a cave-in to Mormons, and if so you'll have to make the appropriate decision for your conscience. They are the main reason we have genealogy software and the GEDCOM standard, that although isn't perfect, is better than genealogy datafile chaos! -chRISTOpher rumcd@open.org - rumcd@juno.com [home page] http://www.open.org/rumcd [surnames] http://www.open.org/rumcd/surnames.htm [World GenWeb Finland] http://www.open.org/rumcd/genweb/finn.html

>X-Message: #28 >Date: Fri, 05 Sep 1997 21:24:38 -0600 >From: Jeanne Geake <jgeake@burgoyne.com> >To: FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-L@rootsweb.com >Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970905212438.007c8720@burgoyne.com> >Subject: Re: FO 6a-- Scrapebook pictures >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > >>I then went back to FO6 and the photos for that individual opened up >>just fine. > >I need to reply to my own message because I just discovered that even >though my GIF photos display just fine in FO6 and they show up in the >Print >Preview screen, they don't print. :( Anyone know a program that you >can >use to mass change the format of pictures? > >Jeanne > >-------------------------------- WINJPEG shareware program available on the net (various sites) will batch convert just about anything to just about anything else. Try to see if it is on www.shareware.com -Christopher Rumbaugh rumcd@open.org http://www.open.org/rumcd/surnames.htm

http://goo.gl/FRFo7N?991=cocjbido&1154&jsjwy==61276167

I'm pushing DNA also. I made a DNA.PDF from FOrigins which has just my DNA, by showing all my known ancestors. This DNS.PDF, when sent to anyone hitting me cousin wise, will let them check all my known surnames at a glance and saves many hours of emailing back and forth. Hope this catches on. It works. Let's push this. Let's face it, the list of autosomal DNA for all of us grows at a rate faster than we can keep up with it. Dozens a month and growing. Also perhaps someone in this software operation can help everyone by making special autosomal DNA matching software. In a few years genealogy is going pure autosomal DNA. First comes numbers for surnames then the names. Get swabbed and get your genealogy all at the same time. However, for sure, many bad paper trails are slowing down this fast coming operation. A tip which works. Check to see which names you have more than once. You will find your DNA autosomal type will read closer kin, cousin wise, further back in time for this family group. Study this one. Ken On 08/04/2015 08:22 PM, dnawrocik wrote:

In that case you do not have an effective firewall and/or your computer is infected with a virus. There is no other way someone else can change files on your computer. I don't see how FO or RootsMagic security can come into it. On 9 Aug 2015 at 15:42, ken via wrote: > No. I'm talking right on my computer. And yours as well. I have no WEB > site what so ever. > Ken > > > > On 08/08/2015 02:00 AM, family-origins-users-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Re: Hi all, (Jim Fisher) > > 2. Re: Hi all, (Coral Callaway) > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Fri, 07 Aug 2015 19:17:51 +0100 > > From: "Jim Fisher" <ejf@jimella.co.uk> > > Subject: Re: [FO] Hi all, > > To: family-origins-users@rootsweb.com > > Message-ID: <55C4F64F.21245.21F5C28@ejf.jimella.co.uk> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > > > > I assume you are talking people about taking data from your FO-generated web > > site, hosted by them, rather than from the data on your computer. Anyone can > > easily copy data from a web site like that, and some idiots seems to think > > that by doing so they are researching their own family history. There is no > > way to stop that, other than by not having the data on-line with free viewing > > for anyone who cares to look (which is the case with most non-commercial web > > sites). I wouldn't worry about it. It's discourteous, but it's their loss, > > because they are missing out on all the extra information you could give them > > if they approached you properly. > > > > For what it's worth, since others have mentioned it, I'm still using FO10 > > simply because it does more or less what I want. I may upgrade to RootsMagic > > some time, and I've been a member of that support group since it started, but > > I see no reason to hurry. I take the same approach with computer hardware and > > software as I do with cars, washing machines or anything else - just keep > > using it as long as it does what I want. I don't see that a new version of > > something being issued is a reason to upgrade, whatever it is. > > > > Jim Fisher > > > > On 6 Aug 2015 at 18:39, gjones6206 via wrote: > > > >> After FO I switched to Rootsmagic which was the one they recommended and it > >> is very user friendly. Others cannot change my program. > >> > >> > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: dnawrocik via <family-origins-users@rootsweb.com> > >> To: ken <ken.biscoe@yahoo.com>; family-origins-users > >> <family-origins-users@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tue, Aug 4, 2015 9:23 pm Subject: > >> Re: [FO] Hi all, > >> > >> > >> I never knew anyone who could do that. You are one of the few still using > >> > >> this program. Most have gone to RootsMagic. I actually have maintained > >> > >> both. > >> Good luck finding that person. Wouldn't it have to be someone you gave > >> > >> access to? Just curious. --Zoe Anna > >> > >> FYI I've put all of mine on > >> Ancestry.com and only gave people access to > >> view. They can't make changes on > >> there. You might consider that. > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: ken > >> via > >> Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2015 12:41 AM > >> To: > >> FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS@rootsweb.com > >> Subject: [FO] Hi all, > >> > >> I've used FO 10 > >> for a long time and like the simple setup. > >> > >> My problem is I am bugged by some > >> one who connects to my FO 10 and takes > >> my work out at times and even altered > >> some of it. > >> > >> Any one have any suggestions of how to get this is fixed? I am a > >> long > >> time genealogist and share willingly. Which begs the question of > >> who > >> would do this when they could simply ask for by work. > >> > >> Ken > >> Poole > >> Genealogist in central NC. > >> Ken > >> =================================== > >> > >> The Family Origins genealogy program > >> has been discontinued. Please check out > >> RootsMagic as an upgrade: > >> www.rootsmagic.com > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the > >> list, please send an email to > >> FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with > >> the word 'unsubscribe' > >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > >> message > >> > >> =================================== > >> > >> The Family Origins genealogy > >> program has been discontinued. Please check out RootsMagic as an upgrade: > >> www.rootsmagic.com > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the > >> list, please send an email to FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with > >> the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > >> message > >> > >> > >> =================================== > >> > >> The Family Origins genealogy program has been discontinued. 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I forgot to add, I even find my program using LDS records, even when I exclude it form the setup. Ken On 08/09/2015 02:00 AM, family-origins-users-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Hi all, (Ken Pool) > 2. Re: Hi all, (Drew Smith) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2015 02:17:02 +0800 > From: Ken Pool <ken.biscoe@yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: [FO] Hi all, > To: family-origins-users@rootsweb.com, dnawrocik > <dnawrocik@cfl.rr.com> > Message-ID: > <1439057822.32013.YahooMailBasic@web190503.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > No way I would let others into my machine, period. Nor would any adult think people can be kept our of their computer. > > I also think the US will be destroyed due to the failure to get others out of our computers. Look at the NSA, Super Spies my butt, they can not even keep other countries out of their own machines. > > Bye bye USA. Ken > > > > > -------------------------------------------- > On Wed, 5/8/15, dnawrocik <dnawrocik@cfl.rr.com> wrote: > > Subject: Re: [FO] Hi all, > To: "ken" <ken.biscoe@yahoo.com>, family-origins-users@rootsweb.com > Date: Wednesday, 5 August, 2015, 1:22 AM > > I never knew anyone who > could do that.? You are one of the few still using > this program.? Most have gone to RootsMagic.? > I actually have maintained > both. > Good luck finding that person.? Wouldn't > it have to be someone you gave > access to?? > Just curious.? --Zoe Anna > > FYI? I've put all of mine on Ancestry.com > and only gave people access to > view.? They > can't make changes on there.? You might consider > that. > > -----Original Message----- > > From: ken via > Sent: > Wednesday, August 05, 2015 12:41 AM > To: FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS@rootsweb.com > Subject: [FO] Hi all, > > ???I've used FO 10 for a long > time and like the simple setup. > > My problem is I am bugged by some one who > connects to my FO 10 and takes > my work out > at times and even altered some of it. > > Any one have any suggestions of how to get this > is fixed? I am a long > time genealogist and > share willingly. Which begs the question of who > would do this when they could simply ask for by > work. > > Ken Poole > Genealogist in central NC. Ken > =================================== > > The Family Origins genealogy > program has been discontinued. Please check out > RootsMagic as an upgrade: www.rootsmagic.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an > email to > FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2015 15:42:49 -0400 > From: Drew Smith <drewsmithtpa@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [FO] Hi all, > To: family-origins-users@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <CALSepZZpSL3Y-uVP_vdAz_2M0xUcnDO3Ur8y48D-JEOuTw9cFA@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Let's stick to discussing Family Origins and avoid going off on > tangents about the U.S. government's actions regarding cybersecurity. > > Drew Smith > Family-Origins-Users List Administrator > > On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 2:17 PM, Ken Pool via > <family-origins-users@rootsweb.com> wrote: >> No way I would let others into my machine, period. Nor would any adult think people can be kept our of their computer. >> >> I also think the US will be destroyed due to the failure to get others out of our computers. Look at the NSA, Super Spies my butt, they can not even keep other countries out of their own machines. >> >> Bye bye USA. Ken > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS list administrator, send an email to > FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS mailing list, send an email to FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Digest, Vol 10, Issue 4 > ***************************************************

No. I'm talking right on my computer. And yours as well. I have no WEB site what so ever. Ken On 08/08/2015 02:00 AM, family-origins-users-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Hi all, (Jim Fisher) > 2. Re: Hi all, (Coral Callaway) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 07 Aug 2015 19:17:51 +0100 > From: "Jim Fisher" <ejf@jimella.co.uk> > Subject: Re: [FO] Hi all, > To: family-origins-users@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <55C4F64F.21245.21F5C28@ejf.jimella.co.uk> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > > I assume you are talking people about taking data from your FO-generated web > site, hosted by them, rather than from the data on your computer. Anyone can > easily copy data from a web site like that, and some idiots seems to think that > by doing so they are researching their own family history. There is no way to > stop that, other than by not having the data on-line with free viewing for > anyone who cares to look (which is the case with most non-commercial web > sites). I wouldn't worry about it. It's discourteous, but it's their loss, > because they are missing out on all the extra information you could give them > if they approached you properly. > > For what it's worth, since others have mentioned it, I'm still using FO10 > simply because it does more or less what I want. I may upgrade to RootsMagic > some time, and I've been a member of that support group since it started, but I > see no reason to hurry. I take the same approach with computer hardware and > software as I do with cars, washing machines or anything else - just keep using > it as long as it does what I want. I don't see that a new version of something > being issued is a reason to upgrade, whatever it is. > > Jim Fisher > > On 6 Aug 2015 at 18:39, gjones6206 via wrote: > >> After FO I switched to Rootsmagic which was the one they recommended and it is >> very user friendly. Others cannot change my program. >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: dnawrocik via <family-origins-users@rootsweb.com> >> To: ken <ken.biscoe@yahoo.com>; family-origins-users >> <family-origins-users@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tue, Aug 4, 2015 9:23 pm Subject: Re: >> [FO] Hi all, >> >> >> I never knew anyone who could do that. You are one of the few still using >> >> this program. Most have gone to RootsMagic. I actually have maintained >> >> both. >> Good luck finding that person. Wouldn't it have to be someone you gave >> >> access to? Just curious. --Zoe Anna >> >> FYI I've put all of mine on >> Ancestry.com and only gave people access to >> view. They can't make changes on >> there. You might consider that. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: ken >> via >> Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2015 12:41 AM >> To: >> FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [FO] Hi all, >> >> I've used FO 10 >> for a long time and like the simple setup. >> >> My problem is I am bugged by some >> one who connects to my FO 10 and takes >> my work out at times and even altered >> some of it. >> >> Any one have any suggestions of how to get this is fixed? I am a >> long >> time genealogist and share willingly. Which begs the question of >> who >> would do this when they could simply ask for by work. >> >> Ken >> Poole >> Genealogist in central NC. >> Ken >> =================================== >> >> The Family Origins genealogy program >> has been discontinued. Please check out >> RootsMagic as an upgrade: >> www.rootsmagic.com >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the >> list, please send an email to >> FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with >> the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the >> message >> >> =================================== >> >> The Family Origins genealogy >> program has been discontinued. Please check out RootsMagic as an upgrade: >> www.rootsmagic.com >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the >> list, please send an email to FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the >> word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> =================================== >> >> The Family Origins genealogy program has been discontinued. Please check out >> RootsMagic as an upgrade: www.rootsmagic.com >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>

I wish. My wife has used Roots Magic for years and it is broken into as well. After looking more into this, I am concerned both Roots Magic and Family Origins have serious security flaws. Some study shows someone uses the update function to alter the DLLS, for sure, and perhaps other parts of both packages as well. Do note the original DLL dates and see if they have been entered into. Said another way, delete the package and reinstall it while looking at the dates on the DLLS you took out. A few of those dates seem to soon change, most don't. Someone is getting into them. Another is the inclusion of DB files, now found, but not in the original of either Roots Magic or Family Origins. In other words the extensions are changing as well. We must find a way to stop doing some one's genealogy work for them. For surely some one is using our genealogy efforts to line their pockets. Ken On 08/07/2015 02:00 AM, family-origins-users-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Hi all, (gjones6206@aol.com) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2015 18:39:51 -0400 > From: gjones6206@aol.com > Subject: Re: [FO] Hi all, > To: dnawrocik@cfl.rr.com, family-origins-users@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <14f052ba6e0-4f43-3e1d1@webprd-m75.mail.aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > After FO I switched to Rootsmagic which was the one they recommended and it is very user friendly. Others cannot change my program. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dnawrocik via <family-origins-users@rootsweb.com> > To: ken <ken.biscoe@yahoo.com>; family-origins-users <family-origins-users@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tue, Aug 4, 2015 9:23 pm > Subject: Re: [FO] Hi all, > > > I never knew anyone who could do that. You are one of the few still using > > this program. Most have gone to RootsMagic. I actually have maintained > > both. > Good luck finding that person. Wouldn't it have to be someone you gave > > access to? Just curious. --Zoe Anna > > FYI I've put all of mine on > Ancestry.com and only gave people access to > view. They can't make changes on > there. You might consider that. > > -----Original Message----- > From: ken > via > Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2015 12:41 AM > To: > FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS@rootsweb.com > Subject: [FO] Hi all, > > I've used FO 10 > for a long time and like the simple setup. > > My problem is I am bugged by some > one who connects to my FO 10 and takes > my work out at times and even altered > some of it. > > Any one have any suggestions of how to get this is fixed? I am a > long > time genealogist and share willingly. Which begs the question of > who > would do this when they could simply ask for by work. > > Ken > Poole > Genealogist in central NC. > Ken > =================================== > > The Family Origins genealogy program > has been discontinued. Please check out > RootsMagic as an upgrade: > www.rootsmagic.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the > list, please send an email to > FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with > the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message > > =================================== > > The Family Origins genealogy > program has been discontinued. Please check out RootsMagic as an upgrade: > www.rootsmagic.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the > list, please send an email to FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the > word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message > > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS list administrator, send an email to > FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS mailing list, send an email to FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS Digest, Vol 10, Issue 2 > ***************************************************

Folks, PLEASE stop sending full digests and digest subject lines back to the list, including your replies to them. :-( I am not the List Admin here, so I apologize to him for doing this myself, but resending digests back to the list causes problems and few people are going to sort to read your reply if sent that, way. David

No way I would let others into my machine, period. Nor would any adult think people can be kept our of their computer. I also think the US will be destroyed due to the failure to get others out of our computers. Look at the NSA, Super Spies my butt, they can not even keep other countries out of their own machines. Bye bye USA. Ken -------------------------------------------- On Wed, 5/8/15, dnawrocik <dnawrocik@cfl.rr.com> wrote: Subject: Re: [FO] Hi all, To: "ken" <ken.biscoe@yahoo.com>, family-origins-users@rootsweb.com Date: Wednesday, 5 August, 2015, 1:22 AM I never knew anyone who could do that.  You are one of the few still using this program.  Most have gone to RootsMagic.  I actually have maintained both. Good luck finding that person.  Wouldn't it have to be someone you gave access to?  Just curious.  --Zoe Anna FYI  I've put all of mine on Ancestry.com and only gave people access to view.  They can't make changes on there.  You might consider that. -----Original Message----- From: ken via Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2015 12:41 AM To: FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS@rootsweb.com Subject: [FO] Hi all,    I've used FO 10 for a long time and like the simple setup. My problem is I am bugged by some one who connects to my FO 10 and takes my work out at times and even altered some of it. Any one have any suggestions of how to get this is fixed? I am a long time genealogist and share willingly. Which begs the question of who would do this when they could simply ask for by work. Ken Poole Genealogist in central NC. Ken =================================== The Family Origins genealogy program has been discontinued. Please check out RootsMagic as an upgrade: www.rootsmagic.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Let's stick to discussing Family Origins and avoid going off on tangents about the U.S. government's actions regarding cybersecurity. Drew Smith Family-Origins-Users List Administrator On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 2:17 PM, Ken Pool via <family-origins-users@rootsweb.com> wrote: > No way I would let others into my machine, period. Nor would any adult think people can be kept our of their computer. > > I also think the US will be destroyed due to the failure to get others out of our computers. Look at the NSA, Super Spies my butt, they can not even keep other countries out of their own machines. > > Bye bye USA. Ken

Hello Jim, I have recently been receiving your emails, I presume because sometime ago I put up a question on the FO Forum. I haven't received an answer pertaining to my problem exactly, but I'm hoping you may be able to offer a solution to my problems. A quick story - about 12 months ago I suffered a major computer crash and although I had backed up my FO data on a separate hard drive, once Windows was reinstalled (V7) I was unable to access my FO data. I had been researching for many years and using Version 4 ( still have the original disc), and, I am ashamed to say, had not updated or even known that FO was no longer supported as such, but had become Rootsmagic. I was devastated after all my time, effort and money to realise that I would probably never be able to recover my data. If there is anyone who is able to offer me the slightest glimmer of hope to solve my problem they would have my eternal gratitude. With fingers crossed......cheers Coral Callaway On 8/08/2015 4:17 AM, Jim Fisher via wrote: > I assume you are talking people about taking data from your FO-generated web > site, hosted by them, rather than from the data on your computer. Anyone can > easily copy data from a web site like that, and some idiots seems to think that > by doing so they are researching their own family history. There is no way to > stop that, other than by not having the data on-line with free viewing for > anyone who cares to look (which is the case with most non-commercial web > sites). I wouldn't worry about it. It's discourteous, but it's their loss, > because they are missing out on all the extra information you could give them > if they approached you properly. > > For what it's worth, since others have mentioned it, I'm still using FO10 > simply because it does more or less what I want. I may upgrade to RootsMagic > some time, and I've been a member of that support group since it started, but I > see no reason to hurry. I take the same approach with computer hardware and > software as I do with cars, washing machines or anything else - just keep using > it as long as it does what I want. I don't see that a new version of something > being issued is a reason to upgrade, whatever it is. > > Jim Fisher > > On 6 Aug 2015 at 18:39, gjones6206 via wrote: > >> After FO I switched to Rootsmagic which was the one they recommended and it is >> very user friendly. Others cannot change my program. >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: dnawrocik via <family-origins-users@rootsweb.com> >> To: ken <ken.biscoe@yahoo.com>; family-origins-users >> <family-origins-users@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tue, Aug 4, 2015 9:23 pm Subject: Re: >> [FO] Hi all, >> >> >> I never knew anyone who could do that. You are one of the few still using >> >> this program. Most have gone to RootsMagic. I actually have maintained >> >> both. >> Good luck finding that person. Wouldn't it have to be someone you gave >> >> access to? Just curious. --Zoe Anna >> >> FYI I've put all of mine on >> Ancestry.com and only gave people access to >> view. They can't make changes on >> there. You might consider that. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: ken >> via >> Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2015 12:41 AM >> To: >> FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [FO] Hi all, >> >> I've used FO 10 >> for a long time and like the simple setup. >> >> My problem is I am bugged by some >> one who connects to my FO 10 and takes >> my work out at times and even altered >> some of it. >> >> Any one have any suggestions of how to get this is fixed? I am a >> long >> time genealogist and share willingly. Which begs the question of >> who >> would do this when they could simply ask for by work. >> >> Ken >> Poole >> Genealogist in central NC. >> Ken >> =================================== >> >> The Family Origins genealogy program >> has been discontinued. Please check out >> RootsMagic as an upgrade: >> www.rootsmagic.com >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the >> list, please send an email to >> FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with >> the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the >> message >> >> =================================== >> >> The Family Origins genealogy >> program has been discontinued. Please check out RootsMagic as an upgrade: >> www.rootsmagic.com >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the >> list, please send an email to FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the >> word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> =================================== >> >> The Family Origins genealogy program has been discontinued. Please check out >> RootsMagic as an upgrade: www.rootsmagic.com >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>

I assume you are talking people about taking data from your FO-generated web site, hosted by them, rather than from the data on your computer. Anyone can easily copy data from a web site like that, and some idiots seems to think that by doing so they are researching their own family history. There is no way to stop that, other than by not having the data on-line with free viewing for anyone who cares to look (which is the case with most non-commercial web sites). I wouldn't worry about it. It's discourteous, but it's their loss, because they are missing out on all the extra information you could give them if they approached you properly. For what it's worth, since others have mentioned it, I'm still using FO10 simply because it does more or less what I want. I may upgrade to RootsMagic some time, and I've been a member of that support group since it started, but I see no reason to hurry. I take the same approach with computer hardware and software as I do with cars, washing machines or anything else - just keep using it as long as it does what I want. I don't see that a new version of something being issued is a reason to upgrade, whatever it is. Jim Fisher On 6 Aug 2015 at 18:39, gjones6206 via wrote: > After FO I switched to Rootsmagic which was the one they recommended and it is > very user friendly. Others cannot change my program. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dnawrocik via <family-origins-users@rootsweb.com> > To: ken <ken.biscoe@yahoo.com>; family-origins-users > <family-origins-users@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tue, Aug 4, 2015 9:23 pm Subject: Re: > [FO] Hi all, > > > I never knew anyone who could do that. You are one of the few still using > > this program. Most have gone to RootsMagic. I actually have maintained > > both. > Good luck finding that person. Wouldn't it have to be someone you gave > > access to? Just curious. --Zoe Anna > > FYI I've put all of mine on > Ancestry.com and only gave people access to > view. They can't make changes on > there. You might consider that. > > -----Original Message----- > From: ken > via > Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2015 12:41 AM > To: > FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS@rootsweb.com > Subject: [FO] Hi all, > > I've used FO 10 > for a long time and like the simple setup. > > My problem is I am bugged by some > one who connects to my FO 10 and takes > my work out at times and even altered > some of it. > > Any one have any suggestions of how to get this is fixed? I am a > long > time genealogist and share willingly. Which begs the question of > who > would do this when they could simply ask for by work. > > Ken > Poole > Genealogist in central NC. > Ken > =================================== > > The Family Origins genealogy program > has been discontinued. Please check out > RootsMagic as an upgrade: > www.rootsmagic.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the > list, please send an email to > FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with > the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message > > =================================== > > The Family Origins genealogy > program has been discontinued. Please check out RootsMagic as an upgrade: > www.rootsmagic.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the > list, please send an email to FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the > word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > =================================== > > The Family Origins genealogy program has been discontinued. Please check out > RootsMagic as an upgrade: www.rootsmagic.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- http://www.jimella.me.uk - my personal web site covering many subjects http://jimellame.tumblr.com - My thoughts on freedom http://jimella.wordpress.com - political snippets, especially economic policy http://jimella.livejournal.com - misc. snippets, some political, some not Forget Google! I search with https://duckduckgo.com which doesn't spy on you

After FO I switched to Rootsmagic which was the one they recommended and it is very user friendly. Others cannot change my program. -----Original Message----- From: dnawrocik via <family-origins-users@rootsweb.com> To: ken <ken.biscoe@yahoo.com>; family-origins-users <family-origins-users@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tue, Aug 4, 2015 9:23 pm Subject: Re: [FO] Hi all, I never knew anyone who could do that. You are one of the few still using this program. Most have gone to RootsMagic. I actually have maintained both. Good luck finding that person. Wouldn't it have to be someone you gave access to? Just curious. --Zoe Anna FYI I've put all of mine on Ancestry.com and only gave people access to view. They can't make changes on there. You might consider that. -----Original Message----- From: ken via Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2015 12:41 AM To: FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS@rootsweb.com Subject: [FO] Hi all, I've used FO 10 for a long time and like the simple setup. My problem is I am bugged by some one who connects to my FO 10 and takes my work out at times and even altered some of it. Any one have any suggestions of how to get this is fixed? I am a long time genealogist and share willingly. Which begs the question of who would do this when they could simply ask for by work. Ken Poole Genealogist in central NC. Ken =================================== The Family Origins genealogy program has been discontinued. Please check out RootsMagic as an upgrade: www.rootsmagic.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message =================================== The Family Origins genealogy program has been discontinued. Please check out RootsMagic as an upgrade: www.rootsmagic.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I've used FO 10 for a long time and like the simple setup. My problem is I am bugged by some one who connects to my FO 10 and takes my work out at times and even altered some of it. Any one have any suggestions of how to get this is fixed? I am a long time genealogist and share willingly. Which begs the question of who would do this when they could simply ask for by work. Ken Poole Genealogist in central NC. Ken

I never knew anyone who could do that. You are one of the few still using this program. Most have gone to RootsMagic. I actually have maintained both. Good luck finding that person. Wouldn't it have to be someone you gave access to? Just curious. --Zoe Anna FYI I've put all of mine on Ancestry.com and only gave people access to view. They can't make changes on there. You might consider that. -----Original Message----- From: ken via Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2015 12:41 AM To: FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS@rootsweb.com Subject: [FO] Hi all, I've used FO 10 for a long time and like the simple setup. My problem is I am bugged by some one who connects to my FO 10 and takes my work out at times and even altered some of it. Any one have any suggestions of how to get this is fixed? I am a long time genealogist and share willingly. Which begs the question of who would do this when they could simply ask for by work. Ken Poole Genealogist in central NC. Ken =================================== The Family Origins genealogy program has been discontinued. Please check out RootsMagic as an upgrade: www.rootsmagic.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi everyone in 2002 i created a website thru my program http://www.familyorigins.com/users/b/r/o/Julieann-S-Brown/FAMO1-0001/index.htm The email is long obselete and i cant find a way to access and update or even delete Family Origins was always my favourite program but i would like to do more with the site any advice gratefully accepted thanks Julie-Ann

Hi I am still in bed with Family Origins 10. I do have Roots Magic and I am current with it. I still do all my work with Family Origins. I have 55000 names in there. If I can help, I would be glad to. Bill -----Original Message----- From: family-origins-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:family-origins-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Julie-Ann Bixley via Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2014 12:18 AM To: FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS@rootsweb.com Subject: [FO] f.o website Hi everyone in 2002 i created a website thru my program http://www.familyorigins.com/users/b/r/o/Julieann-S-Brown/FAMO1-0001/index.h tm The email is long obselete and i cant find a way to access and update or even delete Family Origins was always my favourite program but i would like to do more with the site any advice gratefully accepted thanks Julie-Ann =================================== The Family Origins genealogy program has been discontinued. Please check out RootsMagic as an upgrade: www.rootsmagic.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com

You can also save the file on the old computer as a GEDCOM to a floppy disk (I assume you have a way to access a floppy disk on the new computer since you mentioned that is what the FO4 backup is on). Then import that GEDCOM into RM on the new computer. - Bruce On Sun, May 25, 2014 at 5:17 PM, <chambers1378@comcast.net> wrote: > The old computer with Family Origins on it is too old to run an internet > browser and is not connected to the internet. > George > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "RootsMagic" <rootsmagic@gmail.com> > To: family-origins-users@rootsweb.com > Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2014 10:46:42 PM > Subject: Re: [FO] Letting go of Family Origins, Migrating to Mac? > > If the original FO is working on the old computer, run that copy of FO and > save your file to a GEDCOM. Then, if that computer is connected to the > internet, email a copy of that GEDCOM to yourself. Then open that email on > the new computer, download the GEDCOM from the email, and import that > GEDCOM file into RootsMagic. > > - Bruce > > > On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 8:35 PM, <chambers1378@comcast.net> wrote: > > > I have the original Family Origins disk but it will not install on the > new > > computer. The original Family Origins program is still working on the old > > computer but I am not sure how much longer the old computer will live. > > Since only old computers can read the old program and new programs or > > computers can't read old program files are there ANY options that I have? > > George > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "RootsMagic" <rootsmagic@gmail.com> > > To: family-origins-users@rootsweb.com > > Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2014 9:52:56 PM > > Subject: Re: [FO] Letting go of Family Origins, Migrating to Mac? > > > > Wow, you have a really old version of FO. Version 4 is the only version > > that created .FOB backup files, which was a proprietary format that > *only* > > FO4 itself could restore. Do you still have FO4 installed on the old > > computer? If so you'll need to either use the data files from that > > version, or use FO4 to restore that backup. > > > > FO4 won't run on newer computers. If you don't have FO4 installed, I can > > point you to a zip file with a copy of FO4 you could install on an old > > computer to restore that backup. I don't have any computers that can run > > FO4 anymore myself. > > > > - Bruce > > > > > > On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 7:37 PM, <chambers1378@comcast.net> wrote: > > > > > latest steps taken to move my Family Origins files from floppy disk to > > new > > > computer > > > 1 I put the floppy disk in the portable floppy drive reader cabled to > my > > > new computers CPU and typed A: into the windows search box > > > 2. pierson.fob (that was what Family Origins on the old computer called > > > the files I saved on the floppy disk) was found and I got a message > > asking > > > me to choose a program to run it on > > > 3. I typed rootsmagic into the message dailog box > > > 4. I got back a reply "file cannot be read" > > > now what? > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Drew Smith" <drewsmithtpa@gmail.com> > > > To: family-origins-users@rootsweb.com > > > Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2014 7:34:07 PM > > > Subject: Re: [FO] Letting go of Family Origins, Migrating to Mac? > > > > > > George, > > > > > > First, copy the Family Origin data files *from* your floppy disk *to* > > > your desktop computer's hard drive. > > > > > > Then, follow the steps in the link that was provided. RootsMagic is > > > able to search your hard drive to find your Family Origin data files. > > > > > > Drew Smith > > > > > > On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 7:21 PM, <chambers1378@comcast.net> wrote: > > > > Mr Smith: > > > > Thanks for your reply. What file on my hard drive would I copy > > genealogy > > > files from a floppy disk to if not to RootsMagic? With my not being a > DOS > > > user I need step-by-step directions please. > > > > George > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Drew Smith" <drewsmithtpa@gmail.com> > > > > To: family-origins-users@rootsweb.com > > > > Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2014 6:19:13 PM > > > > Subject: Re: [FO] Letting go of Family Origins, Migrating to Mac? > > > > > > > > I should add that your first step will be to copy the Family Origins > > > > files from your floppy disks to your hard drive. Then follow the > > > > steps provided in the previous link. > > > > > > > > Drew Smith > > > > > > > > On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 6:17 PM, Drew Smith <drewsmithtpa@gmail.com> > > > wrote: > > > >> > > > > > > http://support.rootsmagic.com/entries/451477-Converting-from-Family-Origins-to-RootsMagic > > > >> > > > >> On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 6:07 PM, <chambers1378@comcast.net> wrote: > > > >>> Can someone give me step-by-step plain English directions for > > > downloading my Family Origins files to RootsMagic in Windows? I have > > tried > > > a couple of times but the information saved on floppy disk does not > > travel > > > from disk to RootsMagic any of the ways I have tried. I hate to loose > the > > > years of work I saved to Family Origins once my old Windows computer > > dies. > > > >>> George > > > >>> > > > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > > > >>> From: "denisesimsek" <denisesimsek@hotmail.com> > > > >>> To: family-origins-users@rootsweb.com > > > >>> Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2014 3:49:44 PM > > > >>> Subject: Re: [FO] Letting go of Family Origins, Migrating to Mac? > > > >>> > > > >>> Carol, > > > >>> > > > >>> I also made the change from Family Origins to RootsMagic and I love > > it > > > ! You should try their demo version(I think they have one that you can > > > easily download) and see what you think of it. > > > >>> > > > >>> Denise > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone > > > >>> > > > >>> -------- Original message -------- > > > >>> From: Carol Hokana <carol.hokana@gmail.com> > > > >>> Date: 05/24/2014 2:38 PM (GMT-05:00) > > > >>> To: family-origins-users@rootsweb.com > > > >>> Subject: [FO] Letting go of Family Origins, Migrating to Mac? > > > >>> > > > >>> Hi, > > > >>> > > > >>> I'm not even sure this group still exists though if it does, it is > > the > > > perfect audience for my question. > > > >>> > > > >>> I have been using Family Origins v5.0a for nearly 18 or 20 years. > > That > > > is a long, long time in the world of software. However, I like its > > > simplicity, its stability, its ease of use. > > > >>> > > > >>> I think it might be time for me to retire all of my Windows-based > > > computers--that I keep solely for genealogy because that is was Family > > > Origins runs on. I use my iMac for everything else. I love my iMac! I > > want > > > to move my genealogy data to my iMac but (and this is where I think > many > > of > > > you might agree) I want a genealogy software program that is like my > > dearly > > > beloved Family Origins. > > > >>> > > > >>> Any suggestions? > > > >>> > > > >>> Thank you, > > > >>> Carol Hokana > > > >>> Boston area > > > >>> =================================== > > > >>> > > > >>> The Family Origins genealogy program has been discontinued. Please > > > check out RootsMagic as an upgrade: www.rootsmagic.com > > > >>> > > > >>> ------------------------------- > > > >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >>> =================================== > > > >>> > > > >>> The Family Origins genealogy program has been discontinued. Please > > > check out RootsMagic as an upgrade: www.rootsmagic.com > > > >>> > > > >>> ------------------------------- > > > >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >>> =================================== > > > >>> > > > >>> The Family Origins genealogy program has been discontinued. Please > > > check out RootsMagic as an upgrade: www.rootsmagic.com > > > >>> > > > >>> ------------------------------- > > > >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > =================================== > > > > > > > > The Family Origins genealogy program has been discontinued. Please > > check > > > out RootsMagic as an upgrade: www.rootsmagic.com > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > =================================== > > > > > > > > The Family Origins genealogy program has been discontinued. Please > > check > > > out RootsMagic as an upgrade: www.rootsmagic.com > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > =================================== > > > > > > The Family Origins genealogy program has been discontinued. Please > check > > > out RootsMagic as an upgrade: www.rootsmagic.com > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > =================================== > > > > > > The Family Origins genealogy program has been discontinued. Please > check > > > out RootsMagic as an upgrade: www.rootsmagic.com > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > =================================== > > > > The Family Origins genealogy program has been discontinued. Please check > > out RootsMagic as an upgrade: www.rootsmagic.com > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > =================================== > > > > The Family Origins genealogy program has been discontinued. Please check > > out RootsMagic as an upgrade: www.rootsmagic.com > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > =================================== > > The Family Origins genealogy program has been discontinued. Please check > out RootsMagic as an upgrade: www.rootsmagic.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > =================================== > > The Family Origins genealogy program has been discontinued. Please check > out RootsMagic as an upgrade: www.rootsmagic.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FAMILY-ORIGINS-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >