Andrea, I guess any Fact with a Date or Date Range/Period that matched the Census Date, but in a different Country than the chosen Census records, would be enough. That would also resolve the problem of the common Census Dates for different Countries. The trickiest bit is deciding the Country is different, because it may be recorded as England or Wales or U.K. rather than UK, or U.S.A. instead of USA, etc. Whatever rules the Plugin uses they must work for all users and for all Census Countries and Dates, not just the UK. I will give it a bit more thought. Regards, Mike Tate -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Andrea Kent Sent: 23 November 2013 18:54 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [FHU] Missing Census Facts Thanks Mike, I will have a think about this, and come back to you. My first reaction is that I don't really like a 'non-event' -  but possibly a real event (e.g. serving in the 85th Foot Regiment) with the same date as the census, but with a different country (e.g. Ireland)?? How easy would it be to identify that if such an fact existed (and there was no census fact for that date) and the country was not UK, then that individual would not appear in the missing list? For the other case I mentioned (someone not in the Forces, but just visiting the US for an extended period), I guess I would just have to think of some other fact (visiting??) to meet the criteria. If I think of other possibilities, will let you know.   Regards, Andrea ________________________________ From: Beryl & Mike Tate <[email protected]> To: 'Andrea Kent' <[email protected]>; [email protected] Sent: Saturday, 23 November 2013, 18:01 Subject: Re: [FHU] Missing Census Facts Hi Andrea, As the Plugin author I welcome your feedback. It would be very easy for the Plugin to be adapted to recognise a Fact (or something else) to omit an Individual from the Missing Facts list. The Plugin could even offer to create a Custom Fact Set definition (or whatever) using an interface button. The community just needs to decide what name to assign to the Fact (or whatever) - suggestions welcome. The problem with a Fact is that it is recording a Non-Event, which is a little unusual, and needs special attention to avoid its inclusion in Reports, etc. There is also a small number of Censuses that took place in different countries on the same date: 2 Apr 1871 UK and Canada 5 Apr 1891 UK and Australia 31 Mar 1901 UK and Canada and Australia So maybe we need an Fact named "Missing From Census" with its Place including the Country and the Date set to the Census Year. The Sentence Template could be something like {individual} did not appear in the Census {place} {date} Regards, Mike Tate -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Andrea Kent Sent: 23 November 2013 12:41 To: [email protected] Subject: [FHU] Missing Census Facts I have been using the above plugin, which is very useful, but have identified one issue which I wonder if anyone has a way to solve? I have a couple of ancestors who, although they were alive, will never appear in certain UK censuses as they were abroad serving in the Army/Navy, etc. I have tried putting in a fact with the exact census date stating where they were, but they still show up as 'missing census facts'. Is there any way to eliminate them from these checks (short of putting in a 'dummy' census event, which I don't really want to do)? Andrea

I have given this some more thought and believe I have a solution similar to your suggestion. Naturally there must be no Census Event for the Census Year in question. Then the person will be listed with a missing Census unless the following conditions apply. The idea of a Fact with exactly the same single Date as the Census Date works very well. For various reasons I won't bore you with, it cannot be a Period, Range, or Quarter Date nor have any Qualifiers. Its Place field must contain some text that does NOT match the Census Country being searched. e.g. For the U.K. Census the recognised Country names I have chosen are England, Wales, Scotland, UK and U.K. Such names must be delimited by a comma & space or be at the start or end of the Place field. This prevents place names such as New England or New South Wales being falsely recognised as a U.K. Census country. Overriding all that is a tick box to enable/disable this feature and maintain compatibility with earlier versions of the Plugin. If you would like to try my candidate new V3.0 Plugin then download and install it from my SkyDrive store: http://sdrv.ms/1hbQUuj It will replace V2.9 but if there are any problems then V2.9 can be re-installed from the FH Plugin Store, although it will reset to installation default settings. Regards, Mike Tate -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Beryl & Mike Tate Sent: 23 November 2013 20:47 To: 'Andrea Kent'; [email protected] Subject: Re: [FHU] Missing Census Facts Andrea, I guess any Fact with a Date or Date Range/Period that matched the Census Date, but in a different Country than the chosen Census records, would be enough. That would also resolve the problem of the common Census Dates for different Countries. The trickiest bit is deciding the Country is different, because it may be recorded as England or Wales or U.K. rather than UK, or U.S.A. instead of USA, etc. Whatever rules the Plugin uses they must work for all users and for all Census Countries and Dates, not just the UK. I will give it a bit more thought. Regards, Mike Tate -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Andrea Kent Sent: 23 November 2013 18:54 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [FHU] Missing Census Facts Thanks Mike, I will have a think about this, and come back to you. My first reaction is that I don't really like a 'non-event' -  but possibly a real event (e.g. serving in the 85th Foot Regiment) with the same date as the census, but with a different country (e.g. Ireland)?? How easy would it be to identify that if such an fact existed (and there was no census fact for that date) and the country was not UK, then that individual would not appear in the missing list? For the other case I mentioned (someone not in the Forces, but just visiting the US for an extended period), I guess I would just have to think of some other fact (visiting??) to meet the criteria. If I think of other possibilities, will let you know.   Regards, Andrea

Thanks Mike for an amazingly fast solution! Just off to bed now, but will try it out tomorrow. Andrea ________________________________ From: Beryl & Mike Tate <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, 24 November 2013, 23:00 Subject: Re: [FHU] Missing Census Facts I have given this some more thought and believe I have a solution similar to your suggestion. Naturally there must be no Census Event for the Census Year in question. Then the person will be listed with a missing Census unless the following conditions apply. The idea of a Fact with exactly the same single Date as the Census Date works very well. For various reasons I won't bore you with, it cannot be a Period, Range, or Quarter Date nor have any Qualifiers. Its Place field must contain some text that does NOT match the Census Country being searched. e.g. For the U.K. Census the recognised Country names I have chosen are England, Wales, Scotland, UK and U.K. Such names must be delimited by a comma & space or be at the start or end of the Place field. This prevents place names such as New England or New South Wales being falsely recognised as a U.K. Census country. Overriding all that is a tick box to enable/disable this feature and maintain compatibility with earlier versions of the Plugin. If you would like to try my candidate new V3.0 Plugin then download and install it from my SkyDrive store: http://sdrv.ms/1hbQUuj It will replace V2.9 but if there are any problems then V2.9 can be re-installed from the FH Plugin Store, although it will reset to installation default settings. Regards, Mike Tate -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Beryl & Mike Tate Sent: 23 November 2013 20:47 To: 'Andrea Kent'; [email protected] Subject: Re: [FHU] Missing Census Facts Andrea, I guess any Fact  with a Date or Date Range/Period that matched the Census Date, but in a different Country than the chosen Census records, would be enough. That would also resolve the problem of the common Census Dates for different Countries. The trickiest bit is deciding the Country is different, because it may be recorded as England or Wales or U.K. rather than UK, or U.S.A. instead of USA, etc. Whatever rules the Plugin uses they must work for all users and for all Census Countries and Dates, not just the UK. I will give it a bit more thought. Regards, Mike Tate -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Andrea Kent Sent: 23 November 2013 18:54 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [FHU] Missing Census Facts Thanks Mike, I will have a think about this, and come back to you. My first reaction is that I don't really like a 'non-event' -  but possibly a real event (e.g. serving in the 85th Foot Regiment) with the same date as the census, but with a different country (e.g. Ireland)?? How easy would it be to identify that if such an fact existed (and there was no census fact for that date) and the country was not UK, then that individual would not appear in the missing list? For the other case I mentioned (someone not in the Forces, but just visiting the US for an extended period), I guess I would just have to think of some other fact (visiting??) to meet the criteria. If I think of other possibilities, will let you know.   Regards, Andrea ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message