Unmarried is clear in the definition of the child being born to unmarked parents. As accurate ad the GED definition, the term Adultery in society and in most families that i know is a perjorative term. Albert Sent from my iPhone On Dec 15, 2013, at 11:24 AM, "Greenbee" <[email protected]> wrote: > Thank you Adrian, I was certainly not imposing a judgemental suggestion, > merely that by noting the relationship was adulterous showed that one of > them was married at the time, otherwise the relationship would have merely > been unmarried with no notes > > Regards > > Shelagh > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Adrian > Bruce > Sent: 15 December 2013 15:26 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [FHU] Adultery > > <<snipped>> > I think using the term adultery is making judgements rather than documenting > the relationship. I do not think our role is to make value judgements > <<snipped>> > > It is certainly not our job to impose our own moral judgments on other > circumstances in other times. > > However, the word "adultery" has a perfectly clear definition - "Voluntary > sexual intercourse between a married person and another who is not his or > her spouse" (quoting the first part of the first OED definition). Just > recording the relationship as "unmarried" is not sufficient, as that could > cover the case where both parties are unmarried. > > Certainly, some people associate a value judgement with the word. But in the > absence of an equivalent word _without_ that value judgment, I shall have to > carry on using the word. > > Adrian B > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

<<snipped>> Unmarried is clear in the definition of the child being born to unmarked parents. As accurate ad the GED definition, the term Adultery in society and in most families that i know is a perjorative term. <<snipped>> There are two issues here. Firstly, without a note describing what was going on, we are losing information. While the parents are not married to each other, one of them _was_ married. While this will be visible in FH _if_ you look hard enough, if you were to pull off a report for the child, there will be no mention of the other spouse of the married parent and so no indication of the circumstances of the child's birth. Surely, if we are to respect the child's history, we need to record this and a note seems to be the only safe way of guaranteeing that the information appears with the child's report. Secondly, we have the contention that the word "Adultery" is, of itself, pejorative. I contend that, in the absence of any non-pejorative term of _identical_ meaning, it is possible to write a note in a neutral-point-of-view (what we want) while still using that word. Those who will morally condemn, will do so no matter what word or phrase we use. Further, for long periods of time, the term "unmarried" in relation to parents, would have been almost as pejorative as "adulterous", so if we reject one, it is illogical to accept the other. Adrian B