Wise words. There are practical reasons why I cannot migrate - even if I wanted to (I like XP). Having a good anti-virus and firewall are essential. You can rule out MSE now as it won't be updated for XP. The main points of contact with dangerous attacks (other than manually installing something new) are your browser and any email program. I had to migrate to Firefox recently as IE8 doesn't work with Google+, and I'm about to migrate from OE to Thunderbird. Keep the replacements up-to-date and take the normal precautions you always did with new sites and spurious button-pressing options. XP was always quite reliable and so it will continue to work for quite some time. I can live without flashy new start menus and anything to so with touch-screens -- it's the applications and the web sites that are important, not the O/S itself. Tony Proctor ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Fry" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, March 21, 2014 4:47 PM Subject: Re: [FHU] XP's demise On 20 Mar 2014 17:27, David Gynes wrote: > I am by no stretch of the imagination a computer buff. I have been using > XP > since it was launched and now use it for my FH running on Parellels as a > virtual machine on my Mac and on my Samsung net-boook (NC-10) when out > and > about. > > Dire warnings keep coming my way about the dangers of continuing to use XP > after April 8th. My Samsung is too old to update to Win 8.1, I’m sure and > a > new laptop/netbook is not in the budget. XP is not going to stop working simply because MS removes support. If you want to carry on using XP, then you can. It just won't be updated. Neither will Internet Explorer if you're a user of this thing. I would suggest that all XP die-hards switch to another browser if they're going to carry on using XP. At least that way, any security holes in the browser are likely to get fixed regardless of whether it's on an XP system or not. -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Tony, It has been reported that Microsoft Security Essentials (MSE) will continue to be updated on XP for another 15 months. Also the monthly Malicious Software Removal Tool will continue on XP via Windows Update for another 15 months. Apparently Microsoft are concerned about being inundated with irate XP users who catch a virus after April. The problem with the lack of XP Windows Updates is nothing to do with reliability or new features, but plugging its security holes, and XP has more than the more recent versions of Windows. Regards, Mike Tate -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tony Proctor Sent: 22 March 2014 11:45 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [FHU] XP's demise Wise words. There are practical reasons why I cannot migrate - even if I wanted to (I like XP). Having a good anti-virus and firewall are essential. You can rule out MSE now as it won't be updated for XP. The main points of contact with dangerous attacks (other than manually installing something new) are your browser and any email program. I had to migrate to Firefox recently as IE8 doesn't work with Google+, and I'm about to migrate from OE to Thunderbird. Keep the replacements up-to-date and take the normal precautions you always did with new sites and spurious button-pressing options. XP was always quite reliable and so it will continue to work for quite some time. I can live without flashy new start menus and anything to so with touch-screens -- it's the applications and the web sites that are important, not the O/S itself. Tony Proctor ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Fry" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, March 21, 2014 4:47 PM Subject: Re: [FHU] XP's demise On 20 Mar 2014 17:27, David Gynes wrote: > I am by no stretch of the imagination a computer buff. I have been using > XP > since it was launched and now use it for my FH running on Parellels as a > virtual machine on my Mac and on my Samsung net-boook (NC-10) when out > and > about. > > Dire warnings keep coming my way about the dangers of continuing to use XP > after April 8th. My Samsung is too old to update to Win 8.1, I'm sure and > a > new laptop/netbook is not in the budget. XP is not going to stop working simply because MS removes support. If you want to carry on using XP, then you can. It just won't be updated. Neither will Internet Explorer if you're a user of this thing. I would suggest that all XP die-hards switch to another browser if they're going to carry on using XP. At least that way, any security holes in the browser are likely to get fixed regardless of whether it's on an XP system or not. -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
The majority of updates may be security fixes Mike but they absolutely do include some reliability fixes too, e.g. some documented feature, action, or option, simply not doing its job. Of course, these are rarer and pretty much have to be show-stoppers in order to get a fix for them... hence the focus on security. I had forgotten about the extended support for MSE etc. There are still some businesses refusing to budge so it'll be interesting to see what happens next. Tony Proctor ----- Original Message ----- From: "Beryl & Mike Tate" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2014 2:23 PM Subject: Re: [FHU] XP's demise > Tony, > > It has been reported that Microsoft Security Essentials (MSE) will > continue to be updated on XP for another 15 months. > Also the monthly Malicious Software Removal Tool will continue on XP via > Windows Update for another 15 months. > Apparently Microsoft are concerned about being inundated with irate XP > users who catch a virus after April. > > The problem with the lack of XP Windows Updates is nothing to do with > reliability or new features, but plugging its security holes, > and XP has more than the more recent versions of Windows. > > Regards, Mike Tate > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tony > Proctor > Sent: 22 March 2014 11:45 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [FHU] XP's demise > > Wise words. There are practical reasons why I cannot migrate - even if I > wanted to (I like XP). Having a good anti-virus and > firewall are essential. > You can rule out MSE now as it won't be updated for XP. > > The main points of contact with dangerous attacks (other than manually > installing something new) are your browser and any email > program. I had to migrate to Firefox recently as IE8 doesn't work with > Google+, and I'm about to migrate from OE to Thunderbird. > Keep the replacements up-to-date and take the normal precautions you > always did with new sites and spurious button-pressing options. > > XP was always quite reliable and so it will continue to work for quite > some time. I can live without flashy new start menus and > anything to so with touch-screens -- it's the applications and the web > sites that are important, not the O/S itself. > > Tony Proctor > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike Fry" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, March 21, 2014 4:47 PM > Subject: Re: [FHU] XP's demise > > > On 20 Mar 2014 17:27, David Gynes wrote: > >> I am by no stretch of the imagination a computer buff. I have been using >> XP >> since it was launched and now use it for my FH running on Parellels as a >> virtual machine on my Mac and on my Samsung net-boook (NC-10) when out >> and >> about. >> >> Dire warnings keep coming my way about the dangers of continuing to use >> XP >> after April 8th. My Samsung is too old to update to Win 8.1, I'm sure >> and >> a >> new laptop/netbook is not in the budget. > > XP is not going to stop working simply because MS removes support. If you > want > to carry on using XP, then you can. It just won't be updated. > > Neither will Internet Explorer if you're a user of this thing. I would > suggest > that all XP die-hards switch to another browser if they're going to carry > on > using XP. At least that way, any security holes in the browser are likely > to > get > fixed regardless of whether it's on an XP system or not. > > -- > Regards, > Mike Fry > Johannesburg > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message