Mike, Thanks for this help which gives me the confidence to go ahead and use the plug-in. May I ask one more question before I start. My new PC is a desktop with two drives, something I have never had before and don't fully understand how to live with. One drive is an SSD which is the C drive and the other is a larger HDD which is called the I drive. I was advised by the PC manufacturer to try to keep the operating system only, Windows 10, on the C drive and everything else, programs and data, on the I drive. I later found out that MS Office will only install to the C drive, so it is now there. I then installed FH6 to the I drive, but its Program Data files have installed themselves to the C drive so I have: C:>Program Data>Calico Pie>Family Historian>Many files I:>Program Files>Family Historian>Many files I:>Users>John>Documents>Family Historian Projects (I will delete these before using the plug-in) Is this splitting of the FH Program Files and Program Data files between two drives OK, or do I need to get the whole thing onto one drive - presumably the C drive - for it all to work correctly? Thanks and regards, John Bradburn. -----Original Message----- From: family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of family-historian-users-request@rootsweb.com Sent: 08 December 2015 08:01 To: family-historian-users@rootsweb.com Subject: FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS Digest, Vol 10, Issue 268 Today's Topics: 1. Migrating FH6 from a Windows 7 PC to a Windows 10 PC (John Bradburn) 2. Re: Migrating FH6 from a Windows 7 PC to a Windows 10 PC (Beryl & Mike Tate) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2015 11:33:41 -0000 From: "John Bradburn" <john@holehouse.demon.co.uk> Subject: [FHU] Migrating FH6 from a Windows 7 PC to a Windows 10 PC To: <FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <000001d130e3$1fe55e10$5fb01a30$@holehouse.demon.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I am in the process of moving everything to my new Windows 10 PC and have read the migration guide, checked that both versions of FH6 on old and new PCs are the same and downloaded the "Backup and Restore Family Historian Settings" plug-in. I may not have read the instructions properly, but I can see no mention of Windows 10. Does the plug-in work OK with Windows 10 on the recipient PC? It perhaps should be added to the instructions as most people will now be using it to move to Windows 10 and may ask the same question. The instructions give a frightening warning about alterations to the registry which stopped me from moving ahead. Is this plugin especially dangerous to the registry or is this the author being extra cautious? I suppose that most of the other programs I have migrated will have amended the registry but I have seen no other such warnings. I will have to research saving and restoring the registry as I have never done it before. I will separately write to Calico Pie to say that moving FH6 from one PC to another is too fraught and that they need to alter the file structures or whatever to make it a simple copy and paste of the main data files as I have had to do for all other programs. I tried just copying the main FH6 data file across and it is apparently all there apart from the Custom Query which I use all the time and the 2000 or so record flags against people I want to use the Custom query on. I am thinking it could be simpler to rewrite the query and reflag all the people, thus avoiding the perilous plug-in. John Bradburn Bradburn One-name Study ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2015 14:30:50 -0000 From: "Beryl & Mike Tate" <post@tatewise.co.uk> Subject: Re: [FHU] Migrating FH6 from a Windows 7 PC to a Windows 10 PC To: <family-historian-users@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <002f01d130fb$df265190$9d72f4b0$@co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi John, your last point about moving FH is valid, but don't expect anything to change soon. Sorry about not mentioning Windows 10. I will update the Help pages ASAP. The Plugin runs perfectly on Windows 10 (it is very similar to Windows 7 & 8 under the hood). The warning is cautionary and only applies to the "Restore Registry Data" option that is disabled by default. The Plugin only writes to the Registry in the same way that Family Historian itself does. But if in any way concerned, do not use that option. See the Plugin "Help & Advice" - "FAQ" page - Can settings be restored without writing to the Windows Registry? Otherwise, the Plugin does simply copy folders from C:\ProgramData\Calico Pie\... and elsewhere. The Plugin "Help & Advice" for "Backup/Restore tab" explains exactly which folders are copied. There is a great deal of information in the FHUG Knowledge Base on where FH keeps its settings, and how to copy them manually. The Plugin simply automates that process. Regards, Mike Tate -----Original Message----- Subject: [FHU] Migrating FH6 from a Windows 7 PC to a Windows 10 PC I am in the process of moving everything to my new Windows 10 PC and have read the migration guide, checked that both versions of FH6 on old and new PCs are the same and downloaded the "Backup and Restore Family Historian Settings" plug-in. I may not have read the instructions properly, but I can see no mention of Windows 10. Does the plug-in work OK with Windows 10 on the recipient PC? It perhaps should be added to the instructions as most people will now be using it to move to Windows 10 and may ask the same question. The instructions give a frightening warning about alterations to the registry which stopped me from moving ahead. Is this plugin especially dangerous to the registry or is this the author being extra cautious? I suppose that most of the other programs I have migrated will have amended the registry but I have seen no other such warnings. I will have to research saving and restoring the registry as I have never done it before. I will separately write to Calico Pie to say that moving FH6 from one PC to another is too fraught and that they need to alter the file structures or whatever to make it a simple copy and paste of the main data files as I have had to do for all other programs. I tried just copying the main FH6 data file across and it is apparently all there apart from the Custom Query which I use all the time and the 2000 or so record flags against people I want to use the Custom query on. I am thinking it could be simpler to rewrite the query and reflag all the people, thus avoiding the perilous plug-in. John Bradburn Bradburn One-name Study ------------------------------ To contact the FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS list administrator, send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS mailing list, send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. 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The manufacturer has mislead you. You should install all programs to the SSD C: drive as they are extensions to the OS, including FH. FH probably will work split across drives but I do NOT recommend it. AS should install to C: drive too. It is all your Documents and FH Projects that should be on the HDD I: drive. Regards, Mike Tate -----Original Message----- From: family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of John Bradburn via Sent: 08 December 2015 11:19 To: family-historian-users@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FHU] FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS Digest, Vol 10, Issue 268 Mike, Thanks for this help which gives me the confidence to go ahead and use the plug-in. May I ask one more question before I start. My new PC is a desktop with two drives, something I have never had before and don't fully understand how to live with. One drive is an SSD which is the C drive and the other is a larger HDD which is called the I drive. I was advised by the PC manufacturer to try to keep the operating system only, Windows 10, on the C drive and everything else, programs and data, on the I drive. I later found out that MS Office will only install to the C drive, so it is now there. I then installed FH6 to the I drive, but its Program Data files have installed themselves to the C drive so I have: C:>Program Data>Calico Pie>Family Historian>Many files I:>Program Files>Family Historian>Many files I:>Users>John>Documents>Family Historian Projects (I will delete these before using the plug-in) Is this splitting of the FH Program Files and Program Data files between two drives OK, or do I need to get the whole thing onto one drive - presumably the C drive - for it all to work correctly? Thanks and regards, John Bradburn. -----Original Message----- From: family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of family-historian-users-request@rootsweb.com Sent: 08 December 2015 08:01 To: family-historian-users@rootsweb.com Subject: FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS Digest, Vol 10, Issue 268 Today's Topics: 1. Migrating FH6 from a Windows 7 PC to a Windows 10 PC (John Bradburn) 2. Re: Migrating FH6 from a Windows 7 PC to a Windows 10 PC (Beryl & Mike Tate) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2015 11:33:41 -0000 From: "John Bradburn" <john@holehouse.demon.co.uk> Subject: [FHU] Migrating FH6 from a Windows 7 PC to a Windows 10 PC To: <FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <000001d130e3$1fe55e10$5fb01a30$@holehouse.demon.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I am in the process of moving everything to my new Windows 10 PC and have read the migration guide, checked that both versions of FH6 on old and new PCs are the same and downloaded the "Backup and Restore Family Historian Settings" plug-in. I may not have read the instructions properly, but I can see no mention of Windows 10. Does the plug-in work OK with Windows 10 on the recipient PC? It perhaps should be added to the instructions as most people will now be using it to move to Windows 10 and may ask the same question. The instructions give a frightening warning about alterations to the registry which stopped me from moving ahead. Is this plugin especially dangerous to the registry or is this the author being extra cautious? I suppose that most of the other programs I have migrated will have amended the registry but I have seen no other such warnings. I will have to research saving and restoring the registry as I have never done it before. I will separately write to Calico Pie to say that moving FH6 from one PC to another is too fraught and that they need to alter the file structures or whatever to make it a simple copy and paste of the main data files as I have had to do for all other programs. I tried just copying the main FH6 data file across and it is apparently all there apart from the Custom Query which I use all the time and the 2000 or so record flags against people I want to use the Custom query on. I am thinking it could be simpler to rewrite the query and reflag all the people, thus avoiding the perilous plug-in. John Bradburn Bradburn One-name Study ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2015 14:30:50 -0000 From: "Beryl & Mike Tate" <post@tatewise.co.uk> Subject: Re: [FHU] Migrating FH6 from a Windows 7 PC to a Windows 10 PC To: <family-historian-users@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <002f01d130fb$df265190$9d72f4b0$@co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi John, your last point about moving FH is valid, but don't expect anything to change soon. Sorry about not mentioning Windows 10. I will update the Help pages ASAP. The Plugin runs perfectly on Windows 10 (it is very similar to Windows 7 & 8 under the hood). The warning is cautionary and only applies to the "Restore Registry Data" option that is disabled by default. The Plugin only writes to the Registry in the same way that Family Historian itself does. But if in any way concerned, do not use that option. See the Plugin "Help & Advice" - "FAQ" page - Can settings be restored without writing to the Windows Registry? Otherwise, the Plugin does simply copy folders from C:\ProgramData\Calico Pie\... and elsewhere. The Plugin "Help & Advice" for "Backup/Restore tab" explains exactly which folders are copied. There is a great deal of information in the FHUG Knowledge Base on where FH keeps its settings, and how to copy them manually. The Plugin simply automates that process. Regards, Mike Tate -----Original Message----- Subject: [FHU] Migrating FH6 from a Windows 7 PC to a Windows 10 PC I am in the process of moving everything to my new Windows 10 PC and have read the migration guide, checked that both versions of FH6 on old and new PCs are the same and downloaded the "Backup and Restore Family Historian Settings" plug-in. I may not have read the instructions properly, but I can see no mention of Windows 10. Does the plug-in work OK with Windows 10 on the recipient PC? It perhaps should be added to the instructions as most people will now be using it to move to Windows 10 and may ask the same question. The instructions give a frightening warning about alterations to the registry which stopped me from moving ahead. Is this plugin especially dangerous to the registry or is this the author being extra cautious? I suppose that most of the other programs I have migrated will have amended the registry but I have seen no other such warnings. I will have to research saving and restoring the registry as I have never done it before. I will separately write to Calico Pie to say that moving FH6 from one PC to another is too fraught and that they need to alter the file structures or whatever to make it a simple copy and paste of the main data files as I have had to do for all other programs. I tried just copying the main FH6 data file across and it is apparently all there apart from the Custom Query which I use all the time and the 2000 or so record flags against people I want to use the Custom query on. I am thinking it could be simpler to rewrite the query and reflag all the people, thus avoiding the perilous plug-in. John Bradburn Bradburn One-name Study ------------------------------ To contact the FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS list administrator, send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS mailing list, send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. 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John, I am concerned about your remark, quoted below, which seems to refer to your Family Historian Projects, saying 'I will delete these before running the plug-in'. Perhaps I have misunderstood what you intend, but DO NOT delete your FH Projects, as that is where your data is stored! Lorna On 08/12/2015 11:18, John Bradburn via wrote: > C:>Program Data>Calico Pie>Family Historian>Many files > > I:>Program Files>Family Historian>Many files > I:>Users>John>Documents>Family Historian Projects (I will > delete these before using the plug-in) >
John If you have MS Office that means that you will be paying them an annual subscription which will give you regular updates. It also means you will have 1.5Tg space on One Drive. At least that is what I have. My FH details are in this One Drive part. This means I could access FH on any computer any where when I log in. Victor On 08/12/2015 11:18 AM, John Bradburn via wrote: > Mike, > > Thanks for this help which gives me the confidence to go ahead and > use the plug-in. > > May I ask one more question before I start. My new PC is a desktop > with two drives, something I have never had before and don't fully > understand how to live with. One drive is an SSD which is the C drive and > the other is a larger HDD which is called the I drive. I was advised by the > PC manufacturer to try to keep the operating system only, Windows 10, on the > C drive and everything else, programs and data, on the I drive. I later > found out that MS Office will only install to the C drive, so it is now > there. I then installed FH6 to the I drive, but its Program Data files have > installed themselves to the C drive so I have: > > C:>Program Data>Calico Pie>Family Historian>Many files > > I:>Program Files>Family Historian>Many files > I:>Users>John>Documents>Family Historian Projects (I will > delete these before using the plug-in) > > Is this splitting of the FH Program Files and Program Data files > between two drives OK, or do I need to get the whole thing onto one drive - > presumably the C drive - for it all to work correctly? > > Thanks and regards, John Bradburn. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of > family-historian-users-request@rootsweb.com > Sent: 08 December 2015 08:01 > To: family-historian-users@rootsweb.com > Subject: FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS Digest, Vol 10, Issue 268 > > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Migrating FH6 from a Windows 7 PC to a Windows 10 PC > (John Bradburn) > 2. Re: Migrating FH6 from a Windows 7 PC to a Windows 10 PC > (Beryl & Mike Tate) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2015 11:33:41 -0000 > From: "John Bradburn" <john@holehouse.demon.co.uk> > Subject: [FHU] Migrating FH6 from a Windows 7 PC to a Windows 10 PC > To: <FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <000001d130e3$1fe55e10$5fb01a30$@holehouse.demon.co.uk> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > I am in the process of moving everything to my new Windows > 10 PC and have read the migration guide, checked that both versions of FH6 > on old and new PCs are the same and downloaded the "Backup and Restore > Family Historian Settings" plug-in. > > > > I may not have read the instructions properly, but I can see > no mention of Windows 10. Does the plug-in work OK with Windows 10 on the > recipient PC? It perhaps should be added to the instructions as most people > will now be using it to move to Windows 10 and may ask the same question. > > > > The instructions give a frightening warning about > alterations to the registry which stopped me from moving ahead. Is this > plugin especially dangerous to the registry or is this the author being > extra cautious? I suppose that most of the other programs I have migrated > will have amended the registry but I have seen no other such warnings. I > will have to research saving and restoring the registry as I have never done > it before. > > > > I will separately write to Calico Pie to say that moving FH6 > from one PC to another is too fraught and that they need to alter the file > structures or whatever to make it a simple copy and paste of the main data > files as I have had to do for all other programs. I tried just copying the > main FH6 data file across and it is apparently all there apart from the > Custom Query which I use all the time and the 2000 or so record flags > against people I want to use the Custom query on. I am thinking it could be > simpler to rewrite the query and reflag all the people, thus avoiding the > perilous plug-in. > > > > John Bradburn > > Bradburn One-name Study > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2015 14:30:50 -0000 > From: "Beryl & Mike Tate" <post@tatewise.co.uk> > Subject: Re: [FHU] Migrating FH6 from a Windows 7 PC to a Windows 10 > PC > To: <family-historian-users@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <002f01d130fb$df265190$9d72f4b0$@co.uk> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hi John, your last point about moving FH is valid, but don't expect anything > to change soon. > > Sorry about not mentioning Windows 10. I will update the Help pages ASAP. > The Plugin runs perfectly on Windows 10 (it is very similar to Windows 7 & 8 > under the hood). > > The warning is cautionary and only applies to the "Restore Registry Data" > option that is disabled by default. > The Plugin only writes to the Registry in the same way that Family Historian > itself does. > But if in any way concerned, do not use that option. > > See the Plugin "Help & Advice" - "FAQ" page - Can settings be restored > without writing to the Windows Registry? > > Otherwise, the Plugin does simply copy folders from C:\ProgramData\Calico > Pie\... and elsewhere. > The Plugin "Help & Advice" for "Backup/Restore tab" explains exactly which > folders are copied. > > There is a great deal of information in the FHUG Knowledge Base on where FH > keeps its settings, and how to copy them manually. > The Plugin simply automates that process. > > Regards, Mike Tate > > -----Original Message----- > Subject: [FHU] Migrating FH6 from a Windows 7 PC to a Windows 10 PC > > I am in the process of moving everything to my new Windows 10 PC and have > read the migration guide, checked that both versions of > FH6 on old and new PCs are the same and downloaded the "Backup and Restore > Family Historian Settings" plug-in. > > I may not have read the instructions properly, but I can see no mention of > Windows 10. Does the plug-in work OK with Windows 10 on the recipient PC? It > perhaps should be added to the instructions as most people will now be using > it to move to Windows 10 and may ask the same question. > > The instructions give a frightening warning about alterations to the > registry which stopped me from moving ahead. Is this plugin especially > dangerous to the registry or is this the author being extra cautious? I > suppose that most of the other programs I have migrated will have amended > the registry but I have seen no other such warnings. I will have to research > saving and restoring the registry as I have never done it before. > > I will separately write to Calico Pie to say that moving FH6 from one PC to > another is too fraught and that they need to alter the file structures or > whatever to make it a simple copy and paste of the main data files as I have > had to do for all other programs. I tried just copying the main FH6 data > file across and it is apparently all there apart from the Custom Query which > I use all the time and the 2000 or so record flags against people I want to > use the Custom query on. I am thinking it could be simpler to rewrite the > query and reflag all the people, thus avoiding the perilous plug-in. > > John Bradburn > > Bradburn One-name Study > > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS list administrator, send an email to > FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS mailing list, send an email > to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the email with no additional text. > > > End of FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS Digest, Vol 10, Issue 268 > ******************************************************* > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message