On 22/12/2015 17:23, Victor Markham via wrote: > Mike > > Sorry I will have to disagree with you here. Let's not argue but agree > to disagree! > > I wonder if you have ever ordered a certificate from the LRO. Most > people use the GRO because they can find a reference number. The LRO > reference number can be found in some area via UKBMD web site. These > reference details have been transcribed by local people where the > Register agreed to let them. Not all have agreed to this. > > You may have read the other message from Ian Hartas who set up UKBMD. > But if not I copy it here > > Victor > > Please read this message from I Hartas. > Most sources of UK information are a mixture of Primary, Secondary and Tertiary information. For example an English birth certificate for instance gives the following information Date of Birth – Primary Information Name & Surname - Primary Information Name & Surname of Father - Secondary Information or Tertiary Information depending on whether the father or the mother gave the information. Place of Birth of Father - Secondary Information or Tertiary Information depending on whether the father or the mother gave the information. Occupation of Father - Primary Information or possibly Secondary Information depending on how much detail is given. In a similar way the details about the mother may be Primary, Secondary and Tertiary information. Very few UK sources contain only Primary Information. Cheers Guy