Thanks, Adrian You should look at the Cheshire QS records as there is very likely some documentation there. Unfortunately I've only indexed the documents from the Cheshire QS up to 1746. All poor law cases from 1699 up to 1730 have been published on microfiche by the FHS of Cheshire, but from 1731 to 1746 they are available at http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/chs/CheshirePoorLaw.pdf for free. Removal orders are of course usually found in the Quarter Sessions as they have been the subject of appeals. Most are annotated with the result of the appeal. I should add that all the Lincolnshire Poor Law material, including the three sets of QS papers is available in some form or other. Much of the Lincolnshire Workhouse material is also published and work continues. A2A has Lancashire and Cornwall poor law cases from the QS. My main reason for wanting a citation is a certain Joseph Duncalf who was maintained for about 50 years by a parish with which he seems to have no connection whatsoever, apart from having somehow gained a settlement there, and I have 14 typed up pages of entries from an Overseers Account Book just of entries for himself and two more generations of his family, plus several other documents for members of his family. Anne Anne Cole, President, Lincolnshire Family History Society Duncalf(e)/Duncuff/Duncuft One-name Study GOONS member 513 http://www.one-name.org/profiles/duncalf.html Lincolnshire Post 1837 Marriage Index http://mi.lincolnshiremarriages.org.uk/ Lincolnshire Family History Society http://www.lincolnshirefhs.org.uk > -----Original Message----- > From: family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:family- > historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Bruce > Sent: 31 January 2012 23:55 > To: family-historian-users@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [FHU] Poor Law Documents as sources > > <<snipped>> Even with a removal order there can be no assumption that a) > the > person was actually removed and > b) that there wasn't an appeal against the removal cancelling the original > order. > <<snipped>> > > Sound advice Anne - my favourite case is a widow Pickstock and children in > Lancashire who were removed from Wigan to Middlewich, Cheshire, in May > 1764. > In this instance the document is annotated to say that the family were > "delivered" there. However, in October 1764, the same thing happens again, > but with no confirmation of delivery. What happened, I think, is that the > father (from Middlewich) had died, Wigan therefore feared the family would > become chargeable, so sent them "back". I suspect the family, apart from > the > father, had never seen Cheshire before, hence their return - apparently > after both removals, as the widow married again in Wigan in 1765. > > I've seen other chains of removal orders and appeals with no clue on one > document about what comes next - here you're reliant on looking through or > the indexing - excellent in Lancashire's case - to find what happens next. > > In these cases I ended up with a Removal (custom) event, with the note > against the event containing whatever caveats are necessary. But in > general, > I've had other instances outside the Poor Law, where I've done quite a > tight > custom event for starters and then, as further variations come in, wished > I > hadn't been quite so precise, so your recommendations for thinking it > through beforehand are very sensible. > > Adrian B > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN- > USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message