Thanks Mike, I'll bear all that in mind. It will be a good while before I start adding images I think. I've got to get them all into some sort of order on my computer first. It may take a while..... Regards & Happy New Year. Lesley On 01/01/2016 16:34, Beryl & Mike Tate via wrote: > Lesley, it is worth spending some time experimenting with the options, because they become more complex as soon as you start adding > images. > > In a worst case example, say you have a Census image for a household of 9 people. If you use 'Method 2' then you must attach that > image to at least the 9 Census event Citations, plus possibly Occupation &/or Birth facts derived from that same Census image. > > Whereas, with a separate 'Method 1' Source record for that image, it is only attached once to the Source record. > > It is still easy to keep such multiple Sources in a consistent order by choosing an appropriate naming convention. > > The free companion program 'Ancestral Sources' makes light work of any of the above options. > > Happy New Year, Mike Tate > > -----Original Message----- > Subject: Re: [FHU] References > > I agree with David, > > The Source is where I got the information from, doesn't matter what I did with it or where it is or how it's stored. The Citation > would give much more detail. I haven't attached any digital images as yet, so I have that process yet to come. > > Perhaps I think this way because I started off with much more basic software? In any event, it works for me & is easy to keep the > sources in some sort of consistent order. > > Regards > > Lesley > > On 01/01/2016 14:47, D C Banks via wrote: >> Hi Jeremy >> >> You could have one Source called 'Find my Past etc' and just add a Citation as required for the unique marriage Fact. Then you can > add the Image/pdf to the Citation via the Individual Records screen. I have only 50 Source records but about 25,000 Citations in a > file with 5000 Individuals and 1300 marriages. So, no, it is not excessive - I Cite everything! >> >> David >> >> -----Original Message----- >> Subject: [FHU] References >> >> I used to show, say, 'Find my Past - Parish Records' as the source for entries. Now I am finding that I can get the actual detail > of the marriage as a .pdf which I could attach to the citation. However, I would need each citation to be a separate entry in order > to attach an image to it. My question is that would mean about 3000 individual entries in my case. Is this normal/average? or > excessive? >> >> Jeremy > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

'Copy the Image' will almost certainly copy to the 'clipboard' from where it can be pasted into most photo editors, etc. Happy New Year, Mike Tate -----Original Message----- Subject: Re: [FHU] References Hi all, another thing I have noticed, and I'm sorry but I can't remember which site it was, is that you sometimes get a .tif or .png document - the .tif are TWENTY times the size of the .jpeg. It seems some sites (FMP) do different things - if you Right-click and 'Save the images as...' (you get a .PNG) or 'Download' the image (you get a jpeg) or 'Copy the image' - never found out where or what it does! David

A variation on "Method 2" is to just hold the full transcript (such as for a census) against the head of household's Census Fact source citation - in the "Text From Source". The image can be attached to the Census fact. For other members of the household indicate in their Census Fact note who the head of household is. (In v6 you could set up a Head of Household witness instead.) Add the source (e.g. 1881 E&W Census) without adornment - this allow quick checking for people with "missing census" records. All facts derived from a census record (YoB, PoB, Occupation etc - for all members of the household) can be "sourced" (again without adornment) to the relevant census. Conflicts (such as different years of birth on different censuses) can be recorded by putting the particular values in the Text from Source field and then sorting the sources for the date of birth so that the one you most believe is at the top). A variation on this is for sources like obituaries - which often contain lots of information. The Source may be "Worcestershire Chronicle", Entry Date "21 Sep 1878" Where within Source "page 8 column 1 & 2", and that citation is attached to the Obituary Fact - with the text of the obituary in the "Text from Source" field. Derived information (date and cause of death, employment, honours, marriages, etc.) is added with appropriate facts but the source is given as "Obituary (Cross-reference)". If the obituary gives facts for someone else, you add the name of the person being "obitted" in the Where within Source field. Likewise if you have recorded details of someone's baptism from parish records, you add their date of birth with the source "Baptism (Cross-reference)". This works fine for me - but then I am not making huge use of Reports - where you might become a little unstuck due to having to trace back one or two steps. David On 01/01/2016 16:34, Beryl & Mike Tate via wrote: > Lesley, it is worth spending some time experimenting with the options, because they become more complex as soon as you start adding > images. > > In a worst case example, say you have a Census image for a household of 9 people. If you use 'Method 2' then you must attach that > image to at least the 9 Census event Citations, plus possibly Occupation &/or Birth facts derived from that same Census image. > > Whereas, with a separate 'Method 1' Source record for that image, it is only attached once to the Source record. > > It is still easy to keep such multiple Sources in a consistent order by choosing an appropriate naming convention. > > The free companion program 'Ancestral Sources' makes light work of any of the above options. > > Happy New Year, Mike Tate > > -----Original Message----- > Subject: Re: [FHU] References > > I agree with David, > > The Source is where I got the information from, doesn't matter what I did with it or where it is or how it's stored. The Citation > would give much more detail. I haven't attached any digital images as yet, so I have that process yet to come. > > Perhaps I think this way because I started off with much more basic software? In any event, it works for me & is easy to keep the > sources in some sort of consistent order. > > Regards > > Lesley > > On 01/01/2016 14:47, D C Banks via wrote: >> Hi Jeremy >> >> You could have one Source called 'Find my Past etc' and just add a Citation as required for the unique marriage Fact. Then you can > add the Image/pdf to the Citation via the Individual Records screen. I have only 50 Source records but about 25,000 Citations in a > file with 5000 Individuals and 1300 marriages. So, no, it is not excessive - I Cite everything! >> David >> >> -----Original Message----- >> Subject: [FHU] References >> >> I used to show, say, 'Find my Past - Parish Records' as the source for entries. Now I am finding that I can get the actual detail > of the marriage as a .pdf which I could attach to the citation. However, I would need each citation to be a separate entry in order > to attach an image to it. My question is that would mean about 3000 individual entries in my case. Is this normal/average? or > excessive? >> Jeremy > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Mike .....ditto the Individual Records screen? Or add it directly to the Marriage FACT. David -----Original Message----- From: family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Beryl & Mike Tate via Sent: 01 January 2016 16:34 To: family-historian-users@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FHU] References David, on a point of detail, since we are discussing a Marriage fact, which is a Family fact, the Citation is in the Family record. This can be reached via the All tab of the Individual Property Box, but only after opening the 'Spouse family' link to the Family record, and then the Marriage fact Citation. Happy New Year, Mike Tate -----Original Message----- From: family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Beryl & Mike Tate via Sent: 01 January 2016 16:34 To: family-historian-users@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FHU] References David, on a point of detail, since we are discussing a Marriage fact, which is a Family fact, the Citation is in the Family record. This can be reached via the All tab of the Individual Property Box, but only after opening the 'Spouse family' link to the Family record, and then the Marriage fact Citation. Happy New Year, Mike Tate -----Original Message----- Subject: Re: [FHU] References Hi Jeremy You could have one Source called 'Find my Past etc' and just add a Citation as required for the unique marriage Fact. Then you can add the Image/pdf to the Citation via the Individual Records screen. I have only 50 Source records but about 25,000 Citations in a file with 5000 Individuals and 1300 marriages. So, no, it is not excessive - I Cite everything! David -----Original Message----- Subject: [FHU] References I used to show, say, 'Find my Past - Parish Records' as the source for entries. Now I am finding that I can get the actual detail of the marriage as a .pdf which I could attach to the citation. However, I would need each citation to be a separate entry in order to attach an image to it. My question is that would mean about 3000 individual entries in my case. Is this normal/average? or excessive? Jeremy truffle@cix.co.uk ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi all, another thing I have noticed, and I'm sorry but I can't remember which site it was, is that you sometimes get a .tif or .png document - the .tif are TWENTY times the size of the .jpeg. It seems some sites (FMP) do different things - if you Right-click and 'Save the images as...' (you get a .PNG) or 'Download' the image (you get a jpeg) or 'Copy the image' - never found out where or what it does! David -----Original Message----- From: family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jeremy via Sent: 01 January 2016 12:53 To: family-historian-users@rootsweb.com Subject: [FHU] References I used to show, say, 'Find my Past - Parish Records' as the source for entries. Now I am finding that I can get the actual detail of the marriage as a .pdf which I could attach to the citation. However, I would need each citation to be a separate entry in order to attach an image to it. My question is that would mean about 3000 individual entries in my case. Is this normal/average? or excessive? Jeremy truffle@cix.co.uk ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Re the inability to download from Ancestry: As has been stated above, it's still possible to download images on all Ancestry sites - US, Canadian, UK etc. (Though I've not been on all of them recently). What happened was that when the new New Ancestry site was introduced, less than half (a guess by me) the code was written and at that point it was not possible to download images. Subsequently they wrote a lot more code and the ability to download was put back. Even now I don't think it's exactly the same as before - I'm sure you used to be able to download the image from the index screen. Now you have to go to the image first before you can download it. Not illogical, really, unless you already know what you want. What Ancestry will never provide is a means to do a bulk download of all images in your enquiry results. And neither would I.

Good tip that, Mike. I've found it a boon for snipping relevant articles from the newspaper images on the British Newspaper Archive. Ian -----Original Message----- From: Beryl & Mike Tate via Sent: Friday, January 1, 2016 4:38 PM To: family-historian-users@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FHU] References If you enlarge the browser display as much as possible, and use the free Windows Snipping Tool to cut out just the part you need, then it is both higher resolution and saves the photo editing step that may add distortion. Happy New Year, Mike Tate

If you enlarge the browser display as much as possible, and use the free Windows Snipping Tool to cut out just the part you need, then it is both higher resolution and saves the photo editing step that may add distortion. Happy New Year, Mike Tate -----Original Message----- Subject: Re: [FHU] References There have been occasions when I couldn't download the image so I used print screen and edited cutting out irrelevant details using my photo edit software but I much prefer to download the image as they are clearer -----Original Message----- Subject: Re: [FHU] References From a personal viewpoint, if it happens at some point in the future that I will not be able to download images from Ancestry I would seriously think about not renewing my subscription. I download all source images and if there is no image availabe for an event (e.g. there is a transcription only on the website) I take a print/snapshot of the information and attach that to my Family Historian tree and make a note on the individual's record/fact that the information is from a transcription by Ancestry, a local Family History society, Family Search or whoever performed the transcription. If I didn't download the images and just saved a link to the relevant image/page on Ancestry (or other relevant website) I would be very concerned that if the website ever underwent a reconstruction which resulted in a link no longer being valid, or could no longer afford an Ancesty subscription, I would no longer have proof of where I obtained the data/"fact" for an individual. Regards, Linda

David, on a point of detail, since we are discussing a Marriage fact, which is a Family fact, the Citation is in the Family record. This can be reached via the All tab of the Individual Property Box, but only after opening the 'Spouse family' link to the Family record, and then the Marriage fact Citation. Happy New Year, Mike Tate -----Original Message----- Subject: Re: [FHU] References Hi Jeremy You could have one Source called 'Find my Past etc' and just add a Citation as required for the unique marriage Fact. Then you can add the Image/pdf to the Citation via the Individual Records screen. I have only 50 Source records but about 25,000 Citations in a file with 5000 Individuals and 1300 marriages. So, no, it is not excessive - I Cite everything! David -----Original Message----- Subject: [FHU] References I used to show, say, 'Find my Past - Parish Records' as the source for entries. Now I am finding that I can get the actual detail of the marriage as a .pdf which I could attach to the citation. However, I would need each citation to be a separate entry in order to attach an image to it. My question is that would mean about 3000 individual entries in my case. Is this normal/average? or excessive? Jeremy truffle@cix.co.uk

Lesley, it is worth spending some time experimenting with the options, because they become more complex as soon as you start adding images. In a worst case example, say you have a Census image for a household of 9 people. If you use 'Method 2' then you must attach that image to at least the 9 Census event Citations, plus possibly Occupation &/or Birth facts derived from that same Census image. Whereas, with a separate 'Method 1' Source record for that image, it is only attached once to the Source record. It is still easy to keep such multiple Sources in a consistent order by choosing an appropriate naming convention. The free companion program 'Ancestral Sources' makes light work of any of the above options. Happy New Year, Mike Tate -----Original Message----- Subject: Re: [FHU] References I agree with David, The Source is where I got the information from, doesn't matter what I did with it or where it is or how it's stored. The Citation would give much more detail. I haven't attached any digital images as yet, so I have that process yet to come. Perhaps I think this way because I started off with much more basic software? In any event, it works for me & is easy to keep the sources in some sort of consistent order. Regards Lesley On 01/01/2016 14:47, D C Banks via wrote: > Hi Jeremy > > You could have one Source called 'Find my Past etc' and just add a Citation as required for the unique marriage Fact. Then you can add the Image/pdf to the Citation via the Individual Records screen. I have only 50 Source records but about 25,000 Citations in a file with 5000 Individuals and 1300 marriages. So, no, it is not excessive - I Cite everything! > > David > > -----Original Message----- > Subject: [FHU] References > > I used to show, say, 'Find my Past - Parish Records' as the source for entries. Now I am finding that I can get the actual detail of the marriage as a .pdf which I could attach to the citation. However, I would need each citation to be a separate entry in order to attach an image to it. My question is that would mean about 3000 individual entries in my case. Is this normal/average? or excessive? > > Jeremy

There have been occasions when I couldn't download the image so I used print screen and edited cutting out irrelevant details using my photo edit software but I much prefer to download the image as they are clearer -----Original Message----- From: "Ward Family Tree via" <family-historian-users@rootsweb.com> Sent: ‎01/‎01/‎2016 15:49 To: "Ian Thirlwell" <fh.thirlwell@ntlworld.com>; "family-historian-users@rootsweb.com" <family-historian-users@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [FHU] References From a personal viewpoint, if it happens at some point in the future that I will not be able to download images from Ancestry I would seriously think about not renewing my subscription. I download all source images and if there is no image availabe for an event (e.g. there is a transcription only on the website) I take a print/snapshot of the information and attach that to my Family Historian tree and make a note on the individual's record/fact that the information is from a transcription by Ancestry, a local Family History society, Family Search or whoever performed the transcription. If I didn't download the images and just saved a link to the relevant image/page on Ancestry (or other relevant website) I would be very concerned that if the website ever underwent a reconstruction which resulted in a link no longer being valid, or could no longer afford an Ancesty subscription, I would no longer have proof of where I obtained the data/"fact" for an individual. Regards, Linda On 01/01/2016 15:00, Ian Thirlwell via wrote: > It is possible download images from ancestry,com (the US site). I've just > checked it. An Ancestry login works multiple Ancestry sites, at least UK, > USA and Canada that I've used. > Ian > > -----Original Message----- > From: Victor via > Sent: Friday, January 1, 2016 2:21 PM > To: truffle@cix.co.uk ; family-historian-users@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [FHU] References > > I do not save any images in PDF format mine are always the same as a photo > image which I download from ancestry which allows me is save it on my > computer. But this is UK ancestry I understand that USA and Canada ancestry > has changed and they are no longer able to save images to computer. I > imagine it will be the same in UK soon. As to sources I don't give ancestry > as the source nor would I give FMP as the source if it came from there after > all neither are the original source > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

From a personal viewpoint, if it happens at some point in the future that I will not be able to download images from Ancestry I would seriously think about not renewing my subscription. I download all source images and if there is no image availabe for an event (e.g. there is a transcription only on the website) I take a print/snapshot of the information and attach that to my Family Historian tree and make a note on the individual's record/fact that the information is from a transcription by Ancestry, a local Family History society, Family Search or whoever performed the transcription. If I didn't download the images and just saved a link to the relevant image/page on Ancestry (or other relevant website) I would be very concerned that if the website ever underwent a reconstruction which resulted in a link no longer being valid, or could no longer afford an Ancesty subscription, I would no longer have proof of where I obtained the data/"fact" for an individual. Regards, Linda On 01/01/2016 15:00, Ian Thirlwell via wrote: > It is possible download images from ancestry,com (the US site). I've just > checked it. An Ancestry login works multiple Ancestry sites, at least UK, > USA and Canada that I've used. > Ian > > -----Original Message----- > From: Victor via > Sent: Friday, January 1, 2016 2:21 PM > To: truffle@cix.co.uk ; family-historian-users@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [FHU] References > > I do not save any images in PDF format mine are always the same as a photo > image which I download from ancestry which allows me is save it on my > computer. But this is UK ancestry I understand that USA and Canada ancestry > has changed and they are no longer able to save images to computer. I > imagine it will be the same in UK soon. As to sources I don't give ancestry > as the source nor would I give FMP as the source if it came from there after > all neither are the original source > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I agree with David, The Source is where I got the information from, doesn't matter what I did with it or where it is or how it's stored. The Citation would give much more detail. I haven't attached any digital images as yet, so I have that process yet to come. Perhaps I think this way because I started off with much more basic software? In any event, it works for me & is easy to keep the sources in some sort of consistent order. Regards Lesley On 01/01/2016 14:47, D C Banks via wrote: > Hi Jeremy > > You could have one Source called 'Find my Past etc' and just add a Citation > as required for the unique marriage Fact. Then you can add the Image/pdf to > the Citation via the Individual Records screen. > I have only 50 Source records but about 25,000 Citations in a file with 5000 > Individuals and 1300 marriages. So, no, it is not excessive - I Cite > everything! > > David > > -----Original Message----- > From: family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jeremy via > Sent: 01 January 2016 12:53 > To: family-historian-users@rootsweb.com > Subject: [FHU] References > > I used to show, say, 'Find my Past - Parish Records' as the source for > entries. Now I am finding that I can get the actual detail of the marriage > as a .pdf which I could attach to the citation. However, I would need each > citation to be a separate entry in order to attach an image to it. My > question is that would mean about 3000 individual entries in my case. Is > this normal/average? or excessive? > > Jeremy > truffle@cix.co.uk > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

As soon as you start adding media as evidence you have to start multiplying either the number of sources or the number of citations per source. Mike has referred you to the discussions in FHUG about Method 1 (many sources, few citations per source, with media attached to the source record) versus Method 2 (few sources, many citations per source, with media attached to the citations). It is worth emphasising that many people use a combination of these methods. For example you could continue to use 'Find my Past - Parish Records' as a source when you do not have an image of the original document. This source would have many citations. Each time you collect an image you can then create a new separate source for the appropriate record, link the image, via a multimedia record, to the source, and cite the new source instead of the older generic source. When creating the new source I record the website from which I obtained it in the 'Publication Information' field and the physical location of the original document (e.g. London Metropolitan Archives) in the 'Repository' field. Using this combination of methods I currently have 2265 source records, most of which have only a handful of citations but a few of which (without any images) have several hundred citations. This is in a file with just over 5000 individuals. Lorna On 01/01/2016 12:53, Jeremy via wrote: > I used to show, say, 'Find my Past - Parish Records' as the source for > entries. Now I am finding that I can get the actual detail of the > marriage as a .pdf which I could attach to the citation. However, I would > need each citation to be a separate entry in order to attach an image to > it. My question is that would mean about 3000 individual entries in my > case. Is this normal/average? or excessive? >

It is possible download images from ancestry,com (the US site). I've just checked it. An Ancestry login works multiple Ancestry sites, at least UK, USA and Canada that I've used. Ian -----Original Message----- From: Victor via Sent: Friday, January 1, 2016 2:21 PM To: truffle@cix.co.uk ; family-historian-users@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FHU] References I do not save any images in PDF format mine are always the same as a photo image which I download from ancestry which allows me is save it on my computer. But this is UK ancestry I understand that USA and Canada ancestry has changed and they are no longer able to save images to computer. I imagine it will be the same in UK soon. As to sources I don't give ancestry as the source nor would I give FMP as the source if it came from there after all neither are the original source

Hi Jeremy You could have one Source called 'Find my Past etc' and just add a Citation as required for the unique marriage Fact. Then you can add the Image/pdf to the Citation via the Individual Records screen. I have only 50 Source records but about 25,000 Citations in a file with 5000 Individuals and 1300 marriages. So, no, it is not excessive - I Cite everything! David -----Original Message----- From: family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jeremy via Sent: 01 January 2016 12:53 To: family-historian-users@rootsweb.com Subject: [FHU] References I used to show, say, 'Find my Past - Parish Records' as the source for entries. Now I am finding that I can get the actual detail of the marriage as a .pdf which I could attach to the citation. However, I would need each citation to be a separate entry in order to attach an image to it. My question is that would mean about 3000 individual entries in my case. Is this normal/average? or excessive? Jeremy truffle@cix.co.uk ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I do not save any images in PDF format mine are always the same as a photo image which I download from ancestry which allows me is save it on my computer. But this is UK ancestry I understand that USA and Canada ancestry has changed and they are no longer able to save images to computer. I imagine it will be the same in UK soon. As to sources I don't give ancestry as the source nor would I give FMP as the source if it came from there after all neither are the original source -----Original Message----- From: "Jeremy via" <family-historian-users@rootsweb.com> Sent: ‎01/‎01/‎2016 12:53 To: "family-historian-users@rootsweb.com" <family-historian-users@rootsweb.com> Subject: [FHU] References I used to show, say, 'Find my Past - Parish Records' as the source for entries. Now I am finding that I can get the actual detail of the marriage as a .pdf which I could attach to the citation. However, I would need each citation to be a separate entry in order to attach an image to it. My question is that would mean about 3000 individual entries in my case. Is this normal/average? or excessive? Jeremy truffle@cix.co.uk ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Happy New Year Jeremy, When you ask if each Citation must be a separate entry, I suspect you mean a separate Source record, instead of one Source record for 'Find my Past - Parish Records'. This is the regular debate about 'Method 1' versus 'Method 2' Source Citations. See FHUG Knowledge Base on Sources under 'Sources and Citations - how to use them': http://www.fhug.org.uk/wiki/doku.php?id=glossary:sources#sources_and_citations_-_how_to_use_them You can attach a Media record directly to a Citation via the All tab of the Individual/Family Property Box ('Method 2'), but you would also have to ensure the Citation 'Where within Source' and 'Text From Source' identified the details. The separate Source record 'Method 1' is much easier to manage. The companion program 'Ancestral Sources' supports both Methods. Whether 3000 is normal/average/excessive depends on the size of your database, but is largely irrelevant since PC & FH are good at handling large numbers of records. Assuming you have Birth, Marriage, Death, and Census events per Individual, each with a separate Source record, then it would not be unusual to have several times as many Source records as Individual records. BTW: PDF are supported by FH but do NOT appear in Reports, so for one page PDF it is best if they are converted to an image file. See FHUG Knowledge Base on 'Adding Photographs and Other Multimedia' under 'Adding Other Media': http://www.fhug.org.uk/wiki/doku.php?id=how_to:v4:adding_multimedia#adding_other_media Regards, Mike Tate -----Original Message----- Subject: [FHU] References I used to show, say, 'Find my Past - Parish Records' as the source for entries. Now I am finding that I can get the actual detail of the marriage as a .pdf which I could attach to the citation. However, I would need each citation to be a separate entry in order to attach an image to it. My question is that would mean about 3000 individual entries in my case. Is this normal/average? or excessive? Jeremy truffle@cix.co.uk

Do you mean each marriage has a separate source record? With the .PDF attached to the source record? If so that's what many of us do and it's generally thought to be the easiest way of attaching stuff. So no, I wouldn't consider that many source records to be at all exceed. A bit on the low side by my standards! Don't worry about having many source records any more than you worry about having many individuals. The filtering abilities of FH are such that it's easy to find what you want, providing you used sensible names. On 1 Jan 2016 1:08 pm, "Jeremy via" <family-historian-users@rootsweb.com> wrote: > I used to show, say, 'Find my Past - Parish Records' as the source for > entries. Now I am finding that I can get the actual detail of the > marriage as a .pdf which I could attach to the citation. However, I would > need each citation to be a separate entry in order to attach an image to > it. My question is that would mean about 3000 individual entries in my > case. Is this normal/average? or excessive? > > Jeremy > truffle@cix.co.uk > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I used to show, say, 'Find my Past - Parish Records' as the source for entries. Now I am finding that I can get the actual detail of the marriage as a .pdf which I could attach to the citation. However, I would need each citation to be a separate entry in order to attach an image to it. My question is that would mean about 3000 individual entries in my case. Is this normal/average? or excessive? Jeremy truffle@cix.co.uk