FH V6 does not (yet) have the Getting the Most From book nor tutorials. Should be published shortly. The V5 book and Tutorials can be downloaded from the Calico Pie download archive or the FHUG Knowledge Base. The Split Tree Helper should NEVER be used on your master Project, but on a copy, because it permanently deletes records. However, the File > Import/Export > Export > GEDCOM File is a much better option, as it uses the same method for selecting records, and does not jeopardise your master Project. But bear in mind that the GEDCOM File will still be the FH dialect with all its custom extensions that the Borders FHS may not recognise. So it may be necessary to use the Export Gedcom File Plugin on the resulting GEDCOM to convert to standard Gedcom 5.5. Also do you wish to include Media files or is it just the Gedcom File? Regards, Mike Tate Sent from my Hudl Michael Jackson via <family-historian-users@rootsweb.com> wrote: >I want to send a GEDCOM file of all the descendants of my wife’s 8xg grandmother to the Borders FHS. To do this I need to extract that part of the tree from my FH file. In my Family Historian5 manual, Chapter 15 explains how this can be done. But it seems rather complicated and a warning in red states that data can be lost. The chapter uses the Tutorial files to demonstrate the correct procedure. > >This is my problem. I cannot find the tutorial files. I go through – File; Project Window; More Tasks; Samples; “Reset Sample Project” and am then asked if I wish to reset the files. Even after resetting, there are no signs of tutorial chapters. This is the path I am asked to follow in Chapter 15 of the FH5 manual. > >Yesterday I updated to 6.1.4 and had exactly the same problem as I had previously with my 6.0 version. > >Have I somehow deleted the tutorial files in the past, have they been removed in the various updates or am I looking in the wrong place? > >Please help! > >Regards > >Michael > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Can I ask for some thoughts on the best way to record details of someone who was in the Home Guard as I've just found 2 people of interest listed in the newly-released County Durham Home Guard Records (part of The National Archives data). Provisionally I've used the Military Service Attribute (from the Military Fact Set) and used a "between" date range for his 5 years of service but it does not look quite right. I suppose "Home Guard" is the equivalent of a normal army unit / Regiment but I can only add that as a Note. I presume that other Home Guard records will be released before too long so I'll probably have others to add. How would others record such information?? Many thanks Brian

I want to send a GEDCOM file of all the descendants of my wife’s 8xg grandmother to the Borders FHS. To do this I need to extract that part of the tree from my FH file. In my Family Historian5 manual, Chapter 15 explains how this can be done. But it seems rather complicated and a warning in red states that data can be lost. The chapter uses the Tutorial files to demonstrate the correct procedure. This is my problem. I cannot find the tutorial files. I go through – File; Project Window; More Tasks; Samples; “Reset Sample Project” and am then asked if I wish to reset the files. Even after resetting, there are no signs of tutorial chapters. This is the path I am asked to follow in Chapter 15 of the FH5 manual. Yesterday I updated to 6.1.4 and had exactly the same problem as I had previously with my 6.0 version. Have I somehow deleted the tutorial files in the past, have they been removed in the various updates or am I looking in the wrong place? Please help! Regards Michael

Thank you, Mike. It appears to have been a cache thing, following the merging of a small old gedcom file (76 people, 4 sources, 34 places), a process I have done many times previously. The system seems to have almost righted itself during several re-starts. I say "almost" because I can still see a few strange inconsistencies in the record lists produced by different routes. However, I will not try to explain until I am sure these symptoms are reproducible. I have a suspicion Windows 10's huge cache "facility" might also have something to do with it, but I am no guru. Kath On 26/03/2016 13:51, Beryl & Mike Tate via wrote: > That is unusual. > How did you upgrade to FH V6.1.4? > Has it just started since upgrading to FH V6.1.4? > Does the problem affect all Projects including the "Family Historian Sample Project"? > Close FH and try restarting PC to see if that fixes problem. > Try running the "Where Used Record Links" Plugin. > If still no luck, try reinstalling FH V6.1.4 downloaded from: > http://www.family-historian.co.uk/downloads/latest-free-upgrade > > Regards, Mike Tate > > -----Original Message----- > Subject: [FHU] No record links found > > Family Historian 6.1.4 ... > When viewing and selecting items in record lists e.g. Individuals, Sources, Places etc I now find that clicking View > Record Links > actually finds no links at all ... "No records found". > > I haven't met this before. Can anyone suggest what has happened? > > Many thanks. > Kath > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

When FH Saves the Gedcom it actually creates the tmp file you mentioned, and then deletes the original Gedcom file, and renames the tmp file. So something is preventing that renaming by 'using' the file. Did this start when you upgraded to Windows 10? What is the folder location for your Projects? Is it in the OneDrive folder? The 'changes made by another program' message also suggest that some other application is changing the Gedcom file in some way. So all the symptoms point to some other application 'using' the Gedcom file at the same time as FH. Do you have any automatic backup application running? Regards, Mike Tate -----Original Message----- From: family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of jayne.harryis via Sent: 26 March 2016 18:05 To: FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS@rootsweb.com Subject: [FHU] Problems Saving Gedcom File Hi Everyone, I am running Family Historian 6.1 on Windows 10 and have recently encountered problems saving my files. When I click on "save" (just to save GEDcom file) I get the following error message: "Final step of process (file rename) failed - please click re-try. . . . . . you need to consider if any software is running in background." I am not trying to rename the file, just save it. I do have automatic save turned on, but it is a habit I have of saving after I enter a source with media. I have stopped my virus software from running in the background and many other processes, including dropbox, google drive etc, but my problems persist. I also sometimes get an error message saying something similar to "changes have been made in another program do you wish to reload?" but I do not have ancestral sources running at the time. Fortunately a backup tmp file is created when the program fails (which is often) so I haven't lost any information yet, but it is very annoying and pretty scary waiting for the crash to come and having to close down all my processes while using Family Historian. Has anyone else encountered these problems and could there be a bug in the latest update? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Jayne ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Jayne Have you tried changing to a different folder for the backups? As I rule I never use any of Microsoft's library folders for anything. So, for example my documents go to C:\_Documents on my hard drive and FH backs up to a folder within there. So, the first thing I would do is to create a new folder away from the Library Folders and then see what happens. It could be a rights issue if this works. Oh, first post here/ Hello all. Malc On 26/03/2016 18:05, jayne.harryis via wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > I am running Family Historian 6.1 on Windows 10 and have recently encountered problems saving my files. When I click on "save" (just to save GEDcom file) I get the following error message: > > "Final step of process (file rename) failed - please click re-try. . . . . . you need to consider if any software is running in background." > > I am not trying to rename the file, just save it. I do have automatic save turned on, but it is a habit I have of saving after I enter a source with media. > > I have stopped my virus software from running in the background and many other processes, including dropbox, google drive etc, but my problems persist. I also sometimes get an error message saying something similar to "changes have been made in another program do you wish to reload?" but I do not have ancestral sources running at the time. > > Fortunately a backup tmp file is created when the program fails (which is often) so I haven't lost any information yet, but it is very annoying and pretty scary waiting for the crash to come and having to close down all my processes while using Family Historian. > > Has anyone else encountered these problems and could there be a bug in the latest update? > > Any help would be greatly appreciated. > Jayne > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

That is unusual. How did you upgrade to FH V6.1.4? Has it just started since upgrading to FH V6.1.4? Does the problem affect all Projects including the "Family Historian Sample Project"? Close FH and try restarting PC to see if that fixes problem. Try running the "Where Used Record Links" Plugin. If still no luck, try reinstalling FH V6.1.4 downloaded from: http://www.family-historian.co.uk/downloads/latest-free-upgrade Regards, Mike Tate -----Original Message----- Subject: [FHU] No record links found Family Historian 6.1.4 ... When viewing and selecting items in record lists e.g. Individuals, Sources, Places etc I now find that clicking View > Record Links actually finds no links at all ... "No records found". I haven't met this before. Can anyone suggest what has happened? Many thanks. Kath

Family Historian 6.1.4 ... When viewing and selecting items in record lists e.g. Individuals, Sources, Places etc I now find that clicking View > Record Links actually finds no links at all ... "No records found". I haven't met this before. Can anyone suggest what has happened? Many thanks. Kath

Hi Everyone, I am running Family Historian 6.1 on Windows 10 and have recently encountered problems saving my files. When I click on "save" (just to save GEDcom file) I get the following error message: "Final step of process (file rename) failed - please click re-try. . . . . . you need to consider if any software is running in background." I am not trying to rename the file, just save it. I do have automatic save turned on, but it is a habit I have of saving after I enter a source with media. I have stopped my virus software from running in the background and many other processes, including dropbox, google drive etc, but my problems persist. I also sometimes get an error message saying something similar to "changes have been made in another program do you wish to reload?" but I do not have ancestral sources running at the time. Fortunately a backup tmp file is created when the program fails (which is often) so I haven't lost any information yet, but it is very annoying and pretty scary waiting for the crash to come and having to close down all my processes while using Family Historian. Has anyone else encountered these problems and could there be a bug in the latest update? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Jayne

Thank you Mike - I knew there was an answer in there somewhere - had forgotten the CD/DVD facility.... doh! Am trying to do too much too quickly at the moment; I need to stop, slow down and engage brain. It's not actually for me but for somebody thinking of purchasing Family Historian & I have been singing it's praises but had a mental block with this! Thanks again, problem solved. On 24/3/2016 8:09 PM, Beryl & Mike Tate via wrote: > Yes, they could, but the FH free trial only lasts 30-days, so after that they would be snookered, unless you bought them a gift > token. > They would also have to learn how to use FH. How long did that take you? > > They would not have any of your customisations of Diagrams, Reports, Queries, etc, and are not allowed to run Plugins in the trial. > > If you only send a Gedcom file, then of course there would be no Media images. > So you would need to send the whole Project on a USB memory stick or via cloud storage (DropBox, OneDrive, etc). > > What are the other options? > > You could use "Publish > Make a Family Tree CD/DVD" and send the output on a USB memory stick or via cloud storage (DropBox, > OneDrive, etc). > Then your family have all the details and images, and it opens in their web browser (IE, Firefox, Chrome). > > You could use the "Export Gedcom File" Plugin and publish it in a variety of ways. > > You could create free online family trees in Ancestry, FindMyPast, or ZoomPast and restrict account access by password. > No subscription is required, but in some cases not all the details are faithfully transferred and there are no images (yet). > > There are some free family history programs similar to FH that will accept both Gedcom and images. > Some run on PC and others run on iPads or Android tablets. > > Further details are in the FHUG Knowledge Base: http://www.fhug.org.uk/ > > Regards, Mike Tate > > > -----Original Message----- > Subject: [FHU] Family reading a gedcom > > Hi, Wonder if anyone could help me please. If I had family abroad who wished to view my tree as I do in FH could they download the > free trial & insert my gedcom into it to view only? > Thanks. Sandra > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Yes, they could, but the FH free trial only lasts 30-days, so after that they would be snookered, unless you bought them a gift token. They would also have to learn how to use FH. How long did that take you? They would not have any of your customisations of Diagrams, Reports, Queries, etc, and are not allowed to run Plugins in the trial. If you only send a Gedcom file, then of course there would be no Media images. So you would need to send the whole Project on a USB memory stick or via cloud storage (DropBox, OneDrive, etc). What are the other options? You could use "Publish > Make a Family Tree CD/DVD" and send the output on a USB memory stick or via cloud storage (DropBox, OneDrive, etc). Then your family have all the details and images, and it opens in their web browser (IE, Firefox, Chrome). You could use the "Export Gedcom File" Plugin and publish it in a variety of ways. You could create free online family trees in Ancestry, FindMyPast, or ZoomPast and restrict account access by password. No subscription is required, but in some cases not all the details are faithfully transferred and there are no images (yet). There are some free family history programs similar to FH that will accept both Gedcom and images. Some run on PC and others run on iPads or Android tablets. Further details are in the FHUG Knowledge Base: http://www.fhug.org.uk/ Regards, Mike Tate -----Original Message----- Subject: [FHU] Family reading a gedcom Hi, Wonder if anyone could help me please. If I had family abroad who wished to view my tree as I do in FH could they download the free trial & insert my gedcom into it to view only? Thanks. Sandra

Hi, Wonder if anyone could help me please. If I had family abroad who wished to view my tree as I do in FH could they download the free trial & insert my gedcom into it to view only? Thanks. Sandra

Mike Many thanks Brian On 17/03/2016 15:30, Beryl & Mike Tate via wrote: > It does not appear to be possible to adjust or preset any of those options. > > Regards, Mike Tate > > -----Original Message----- > Subject: [FHU] Disable Prompt before re-orderiing out-of-sequence data > > Is it possible to disable the prompt boxes when using the "Tools - Re-Order out of sequence data" and just run the re-sequencing > routine from the Tools menu?? I've looked at the "Tools - Preferences" but cannot see an obvious tick selection option. > > Alternatively, can the tick-box at the bottom ("Prompt for confirmation") of the sub-window be permanently set to be un-ticked > rather than ticked ?? > > It's not the end of the world if neither can be done. > > Many thanks > > Brian > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

It does not appear to be possible to adjust or preset any of those options. Regards, Mike Tate -----Original Message----- Subject: [FHU] Disable Prompt before re-orderiing out-of-sequence data Is it possible to disable the prompt boxes when using the "Tools - Re-Order out of sequence data" and just run the re-sequencing routine from the Tools menu?? I've looked at the "Tools - Preferences" but cannot see an obvious tick selection option. Alternatively, can the tick-box at the bottom ("Prompt for confirmation") of the sub-window be permanently set to be un-ticked rather than ticked ?? It's not the end of the world if neither can be done. Many thanks Brian

Is it possible to disable the prompt boxes when using the "Tools - Re-Order out of sequence data" and just run the re-sequencing routine from the Tools menu?? I've looked at the "Tools - Preferences" but cannot see an obvious tick selection option. Alternatively, can the tick-box at the bottom ("Prompt for confirmation") of the sub-window be permanently set to be un-ticked rather than ticked ?? It's not the end of the world if neither can be done. Many thanks Brian

Hi, Is it possible to write out my gedcom to represent the De Villiers Numbering system where the first child of the Progenitor is b1, his children is c1-? and so on. An example is shown below: Christiaan Pieterse * 02.01.1700 x Cape Town 12.09.1727 Maria LE ROUX b1 Christiaan * Cape Town 01.08.1728 ≈ Stellenbosch 20.9.1728 † 30.09.1830 x Bethlehem 10.10.1751 Anna Maria OPPERMAN c1 Catharina Maria ≈ Stellenbosch 29.10.1752 c2 Christiaan Rudolph ≈ Stellenbosch 29.3.1755 x Tulbagh 11.5.1788 Maria Magdalena BURGER d1 Christiaan Rudolph ≈ Tulbagh 5.7.1789 I would appreciate any help to lead me on the right track. Do I do it with a query? Regards Herman du Plooy

Hi Herman, I have a Plugin that will produce a variety of numbering systems including De Villiers/Pama, but I need a few more details. Where do you want the numbers written? Do you just want an on screen display such as a Query Result Set, that could be printed? Do you want the numbers saved in say the Custom Id field of each descendant? Will the root person always be the same or could it be anyone in your database? As I understand it the numbers b1 or c2 or d3 on their own are insufficient because they don't define the ancestor. e.g. In your example is d1 the child of c1 or c2? So the full number should be each number in descendant order, e.g. a.b1.c2.d1 It would be easier to continue this dialogue in the FHUG Forums where I can attach the Plugin for you to try. http://www.fhug.org.uk/forum/ Regards, Mike Tate -----Original Message----- Subject: [FHU] De Villiers Numbering System Is it possible to write out my gedcom to represent the De Villiers Numbering system where the first child of the Progenitor is b1, his children is c1-? and so on. An example is shown below: Christiaan Pieterse * 02.01.1700 x Cape Town 12.09.1727 Maria LE ROUX b1 Christiaan * Cape Town 01.08.1728 ≈ Stellenbosch 20.9.1728 † 30.09.1830 x Bethlehem 10.10.1751 Anna Maria OPPERMAN c1 Catharina Maria ≈ Stellenbosch 29.10.1752 c2 Christiaan Rudolph ≈ Stellenbosch 29.3.1755 x Tulbagh 11.5.1788 Maria Magdalena BURGER d1 Christiaan Rudolph ≈ Tulbagh 5.7.1789 I would appreciate any help to lead me on the right track. Do I do it with a query? Herman du Plooy

A good starting point is to use View > Standard Queries > All Events and click on the Events column heading to sort all the Birth Events together. That gives you an idea of what is possible, and by customising that into Custom Query will give exactly what you requested. The FHUG http://www.fhug.org.uk gives advice on how to achieve that customisation. Regards, Mike Tate Sent from my Hudl RSF via <family-historian-users@rootsweb.com> wrote: >I want to print a list of all people with one surname, dob and place of birth from my tree and am not sure of the best way to do this. Do I need to write a custom query – if so I’m not sure how to do that – or can I do it some other way. Any sugestions would be appreciated > >Becky Faulconbridge > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On 18/02/2016 17:37, Fiona Hall wrote: > Hi Arthur > > Please don't panic - FH can be as laid back as you want it to be. > > I sometimes do 'proper' sources with references and other times it's > just '1871 census' or 'Birth Cert' , - it all depends on what I am > doing. (I use FH in different ways for different situations so have > several projects on the go) > > One thing I would suggest to make life easier is to use a program you > can download from FHUG called 'Ancestral sources' - it really does > automate the entering in of census, BMD's, PR's etc and even concocts > transcripts. Again you can use it as precisely or as loosely as you > want. Include images or not as you want . It does help amazingly with > a large household for a census as it concocts all the census, > residence and occupation facts and even adds in new people as it goes on. > > Fiona (converted from 'Generations') > Thank you, and Roger too for his follow-up. My first serious program was Generations too, and since then I've been through Legacy and RootsMagic before planning to switch to FH. I can't decide yet about Ancestral Sources. Although I do have quite a backlog of data to enter (and more keeps appearing online, though I shouldn't really be complaining about that), I don't think there's going to be anywhere near as much new stuff as I already have in the .ged file from RM, so it may be of limited use to me. Even without Ancestral Sources, I was expecting FH's inbuilt ability to copy and paste facts to significantly improve my data entry rate over what it was in RM. (This is a feature that I used quite a lot in Legacy, but RM doesn't have it - one of my annoyances.) Automatic Source Citation should help too. So on the whole, I think I'd rather get properly used to FH first, and maybe try AS at a later stage if I find I then have a lot of new data to enter. But thanks for the suggestion - I'm certainly not ruling it out. Arthur

On 18/02/2016 16:49, Arthur & Pauline Kennedy via wrote: > On 17/02/2016 20:59, Beryl & Mike Tate via wrote: > >> You need to be consistent about where you link your images, and consider where they appear in Reports. > > "Need", "consistent", "meant to be", "should" - words like this are > making me wonder if FH is the right program for me. I'm human, I'm not > always consistent in the way I do things (and I note that many of those > who write about sources both here and in the FHUG forums say they use a > mixture of Method 1 and Method 2 sourcing, so I'm not the only one), but > I like to keep things as simple as possible, and above all clear and > unambiguous. To echo what Fiona has said: Mike's "need to be consistent" is for /your/ benefit, not for FH, which will happily accomodate almost anything you care to do. THe basic point is: the more you can record a particular 'style' of event (births, witnesses, census appearances, etc) in a consistent manner, the more FH will be able to help you. You can certainly mix Method 1 and 2 sourcing, but for maximum benefit you should probably use the same method for the same event type. But FH is very flexible: in the end, it's all up to you. -- Cheers, Roger