I am a bit confused. You say you "grasped the full potential of the Split Tree Helper". Then say you used the "Strict GEDCOM file" option that only applies to "File > Export > GEDCOM File"? But that option does not adjust for custom tags as it only applies to same sex partnership tags. So what you have sent to Borders FHS, even though acceptable, may omit certain aspects of your database. I again suggest you use the "Export Gedcom File" Plugin. You can delete Projects via "File > Project Window > More Tasks > Delete Project" or if they are just Gedcom files then delete them using Windows File Explorer. Regards, Mike Tate -----Original Message----- Subject: Re: [FHU] Split Tree Helper Mike Thanks for your help in this. I practiced several times on the "Sample Munro Project" until I had grasped the full potential of the Split Tree Helper. I now have umpteen sample project files all over the place in various states of usability! To be got rid of! I am told the "Strict GEDCOM file" which I have sent to the Borders FHS was acceptable to them. I omitted the media files because of the size. Thanks for your guidance and advice. Michael

Mike Thanks for your help in this. I practiced several times on the "Sample Munro Project" until I had grasped the full potential of the Split Tree Helper. I now have umpteen sample project files all over the place in various states of usability! To be got rid of! I am told the "Strict GEDCOM file" which I have sent to the Borders FHS was acceptable to them. I omitted the media files because of the size. Thanks for your guidance and advice. Michael -----Original Message----- From: Beryl & Mike Tate via Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2016 8:58 PM To: family-historian-users@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FHU] Split Tree Helper FH V6 does not (yet) have the Getting the Most From book nor tutorials. Should be published shortly. The V5 book and Tutorials can be downloaded from the Calico Pie download archive or the FHUG Knowledge Base. The Split Tree Helper should NEVER be used on your master Project, but on a copy, because it permanently deletes records. However, the File > Import/Export > Export > GEDCOM File is a much better option, as it uses the same method for selecting records, and does not jeopardise your master Project. But bear in mind that the GEDCOM File will still be the FH dialect with all its custom extensions that the Borders FHS may not recognise. So it may be necessary to use the Export Gedcom File Plugin on the resulting GEDCOM to convert to standard Gedcom 5.5. Also do you wish to include Media files or is it just the Gedcom File? Regards, Mike Tate Sent from my Hudl Michael Jackson via <family-historian-users@rootsweb.com> wrote: >I want to send a GEDCOM file of all the descendants of my wife’s 8xg >grandmother to the Borders FHS. To do this I need to extract that part of >the tree from my FH file. In my Family Historian5 manual, Chapter 15 >explains how this can be done. But it seems rather complicated and a >warning in red states that data can be lost. The chapter uses the Tutorial >files to demonstrate the correct procedure. > >This is my problem. I cannot find the tutorial files. I go through – File; >Project Window; More Tasks; Samples; “Reset Sample Project” and am then >asked if I wish to reset the files. Even after resetting, there are no >signs of tutorial chapters. This is the path I am asked to follow in >Chapter 15 of the FH5 manual. > >Yesterday I updated to 6.1.4 and had exactly the same problem as I had >previously with my 6.0 version. > >Have I somehow deleted the tutorial files in the past, have they been >removed in the various updates or am I looking in the wrong place? > >Please help! > >Regards > >Michael > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On April 2, 2016, at 6:23 AM, Sandra Collins via <family-historian-users@rootsweb.com> wrote: Mike, Thank you so much - I wasn't sure when I read your explanation if it made any sense to me as it didn't seem to answer my query (at least in my head), so needed to have a try with it. I have been reading the manual until I'm blue in the face, looked on the user group & still couldn't achieve what I wanted! I have followed your instructions to the letter & now see how it works. I am so grateful but just wish I'd asked you earlier - you would not believe the number of times I have deleted all those flags & had to reinsert them again!! :) Thanks again. Regards Sandra On 1/4/2016 7:43 PM, Sandra Collins via wrote: > Thank you Mike; I think I understand it so I am going to have a play > with it now; I will let you know how I get on or if I need more help. > Sandra > > On 1/4/2016 4:42 PM, Beryl and Mike Tate via wrote: >> Yes, simply create two Diagram Types or FH Charts. >> I suspect you have only been customising the Standard Diagram available from >> the toolbar icons or via View > Standard Diagram Types. >> >> With the Diagram open, customise the Boxes tab as required, then use Diagram >>> Save Diagram As > Custom Diagram Type and give it a memorable name. >> Thereafter, use View > Custom Diagram Types and choose that memorable name. >> You can save as many different Diagram Types as you like to preserve various >> custom settings. >> >> You can also use Diagram > Save Diagram As > Family Historian Chart and give >> it a name. That will not only save the custom settings but also the part of >> the family tree for your relatives. Thereafter, use View > Save Charts. Note >> that they are not frozen in time, and will still update when new data or >> boxes are added to the family tree branch on display. >> >> Regards, Mike Tate >> >> -----Original Message----- >> Subject: [FHU] Help with diagrams >> >> Good afternoon, >> I need some help please with diagrams. I am using FH 5.0.9 >> >> I like to work with diagrams and with lots of flags - I currently have >> 68 record flags which I have in my 'boxes' section of diagram options, >> each with an icon. It helps me when viewing the diagram to see at a >> glance for instance who emigrated or who is missing a birth >> registration. This all works extremely well for me & I love the ability >> to be able to work this way. >> >> However there are times, especially when I want to print off part of a >> tree for a relative, or for my records, when I don't want the icons to >> appear. So far I can't find a way to do this other than to delete all >> the record flags from the 'boxes' section, which means I have to >> reinstall them all again to be able to use them & this is very time >> consuming, apart from driving me nuts in the process. Even by trying >> different options of tree from the text box doesn't help as the flags & >> thus the icons are still showing. >> >> Can somebody please tell me if there is a way to do this without having >> to delete them all from the 'boxes' section? I am sure there must be & >> that it is quite simple but for the life of me I can't find out how; I >> must be missing something obvious. >> >> t.i.a. >> Sandra. >> >> >> >> --- >> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >> https://www.avast.com/antivirus >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

As has been said, there is an ongoing discussion on this "FH 6.2 - FindMyPast Hints" topic in the FHUG Forums. http://www.fhug.org.uk/forum/ The hint details are held in the Cache folder within the Project for both FindMyPast and MyHeritage, but it uses a very cryptic format that cannot be easily edited. Regards, Mike Tate -----Original Message----- Subject: [FHU] Find My Past Record Matching I've been experimenting with this and find it useful. However I think there is a minor, but niggly, problem. When a suggestion is offered that isn't in the FMP collection to which you are subscribed, you can't seem to either accept or reject it. For example, a death is offered for America, now I know that my relative didn't die in America so I want to reject it. However, because I don't have a worldwide subscription I can't accept or reject it. Does anyone know where the list of suggestions and acceptance/rejection is kept? If it's maintained on the PC then I could presumable hand edit that file. Thanks David Simpson

This minor problem has also been raised on FHUG in this thread http://www.fhug.org.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=13616 I don't think there is a known solution at the moment but perhaps in time the user feedback will result in some modification. Lorna

I've been experimenting with this and find it useful. However I think there is a minor, but niggly, problem. When a suggestion is offered that isn't in the FMP collection to which you are subscribed, you can't seem to either accept or reject it. For example, a death is offered for America, now I know that my relative didn't die in America so I want to reject it. However, because I don't have a worldwide subscription I can't accept or reject it. Does anyone know where the list of suggestions and acceptance/rejection is kept? If it's maintained on the PC then I could presumable hand edit that file. Thanks David Simpson Email: <mailto:dave@quarlton.co.uk> dave@quarlton.co.uk websites: <http://www.quarlton.co.uk/> www.quarlton.co.uk <http://www.jacobstree.co.uk/> www.jacobstree.co.uk

Yes Mike, I will do that in future, I was sure there must have been a shortcut but was just going round in circles. I won't do that again. :) On 2/4/2016 3:53 PM, Beryl & Mike Tate via wrote: > I am glad that helped you Sandra. > The message to take from that experience is that once any software process is tediously repetitive (not just in FH) then assume > there must be a shortcut. > When you cannot find the solution in the documentation, then ask the User Community for advice immediately. > You can use either this [FHU] Email list, or the FHUG Forums, where there also is a Knowledge Base wiki plus free downloads: > http://www.fhug.org.uk/ > > Regards, Mike Tate > > -----Original Message----- > Subject: Re: [FHU] Help with diagrams > > Mike, Thank you so much - I wasn't sure when I read your explanation if it made any sense to me as it didn't seem to answer my query > (at least in my head), so needed to have a try with it. I have been reading the manual until I'm blue in the face, looked on the > user group & still couldn't achieve what I wanted! I have followed your instructions to the letter & now see how it works. I am > so grateful but just wish I'd asked you earlier - you would not believe the number of times I have deleted all those flags & had to > reinsert them again!! :) Thanks again. > Regards > Sandra > > On 1/4/2016 7:43 PM, Sandra Collins via wrote: >> Thank you Mike; I think I understand it so I am going to have a play >> with it now; I will let you know how I get on or if I need more help. >> Sandra >> >> On 1/4/2016 4:42 PM, Beryl and Mike Tate via wrote: >>> Yes, simply create two Diagram Types or FH Charts. >>> I suspect you have only been customising the Standard Diagram >>> available from the toolbar icons or via View > Standard Diagram Types. >>> >>> With the Diagram open, customise the Boxes tab as required, then use >>> Diagram >>>> Save Diagram As > Custom Diagram Type and give it a memorable name. >>> Thereafter, use View > Custom Diagram Types and choose that memorable name. >>> You can save as many different Diagram Types as you like to preserve >>> various custom settings. >>> >>> You can also use Diagram > Save Diagram As > Family Historian Chart >>> and give it a name. That will not only save the custom settings but >>> also the part of the family tree for your relatives. Thereafter, use >>> View > Save Charts. Note that they are not frozen in time, and will >>> still update when new data or boxes are added to the family tree branch on display. >>> >>> Regards, Mike Tate >>> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

I am glad that helped you Sandra. The message to take from that experience is that once any software process is tediously repetitive (not just in FH) then assume there must be a shortcut. When you cannot find the solution in the documentation, then ask the User Community for advice immediately. You can use either this [FHU] Email list, or the FHUG Forums, where there also is a Knowledge Base wiki plus free downloads: http://www.fhug.org.uk/ Regards, Mike Tate -----Original Message----- Subject: Re: [FHU] Help with diagrams Mike, Thank you so much - I wasn't sure when I read your explanation if it made any sense to me as it didn't seem to answer my query (at least in my head), so needed to have a try with it. I have been reading the manual until I'm blue in the face, looked on the user group & still couldn't achieve what I wanted! I have followed your instructions to the letter & now see how it works. I am so grateful but just wish I'd asked you earlier - you would not believe the number of times I have deleted all those flags & had to reinsert them again!! :) Thanks again. Regards Sandra On 1/4/2016 7:43 PM, Sandra Collins via wrote: > Thank you Mike; I think I understand it so I am going to have a play > with it now; I will let you know how I get on or if I need more help. > Sandra > > On 1/4/2016 4:42 PM, Beryl and Mike Tate via wrote: >> Yes, simply create two Diagram Types or FH Charts. >> I suspect you have only been customising the Standard Diagram >> available from the toolbar icons or via View > Standard Diagram Types. >> >> With the Diagram open, customise the Boxes tab as required, then use >> Diagram >>> Save Diagram As > Custom Diagram Type and give it a memorable name. >> Thereafter, use View > Custom Diagram Types and choose that memorable name. >> You can save as many different Diagram Types as you like to preserve >> various custom settings. >> >> You can also use Diagram > Save Diagram As > Family Historian Chart >> and give it a name. That will not only save the custom settings but >> also the part of the family tree for your relatives. Thereafter, use >> View > Save Charts. Note that they are not frozen in time, and will >> still update when new data or boxes are added to the family tree branch on display. >> >> Regards, Mike Tate >>

Mike, Thank you so much - I wasn't sure when I read your explanation if it made any sense to me as it didn't seem to answer my query (at least in my head), so needed to have a try with it. I have been reading the manual until I'm blue in the face, looked on the user group & still couldn't achieve what I wanted! I have followed your instructions to the letter & now see how it works. I am so grateful but just wish I'd asked you earlier - you would not believe the number of times I have deleted all those flags & had to reinsert them again!! :) Thanks again. Regards Sandra On 1/4/2016 7:43 PM, Sandra Collins via wrote: > Thank you Mike; I think I understand it so I am going to have a play > with it now; I will let you know how I get on or if I need more help. > Sandra > > On 1/4/2016 4:42 PM, Beryl and Mike Tate via wrote: >> Yes, simply create two Diagram Types or FH Charts. >> I suspect you have only been customising the Standard Diagram available from >> the toolbar icons or via View > Standard Diagram Types. >> >> With the Diagram open, customise the Boxes tab as required, then use Diagram >>> Save Diagram As > Custom Diagram Type and give it a memorable name. >> Thereafter, use View > Custom Diagram Types and choose that memorable name. >> You can save as many different Diagram Types as you like to preserve various >> custom settings. >> >> You can also use Diagram > Save Diagram As > Family Historian Chart and give >> it a name. That will not only save the custom settings but also the part of >> the family tree for your relatives. Thereafter, use View > Save Charts. Note >> that they are not frozen in time, and will still update when new data or >> boxes are added to the family tree branch on display. >> >> Regards, Mike Tate >> >> -----Original Message----- >> Subject: [FHU] Help with diagrams >> >> Good afternoon, >> I need some help please with diagrams. I am using FH 5.0.9 >> >> I like to work with diagrams and with lots of flags - I currently have >> 68 record flags which I have in my 'boxes' section of diagram options, >> each with an icon. It helps me when viewing the diagram to see at a >> glance for instance who emigrated or who is missing a birth >> registration. This all works extremely well for me & I love the ability >> to be able to work this way. >> >> However there are times, especially when I want to print off part of a >> tree for a relative, or for my records, when I don't want the icons to >> appear. So far I can't find a way to do this other than to delete all >> the record flags from the 'boxes' section, which means I have to >> reinstall them all again to be able to use them & this is very time >> consuming, apart from driving me nuts in the process. Even by trying >> different options of tree from the text box doesn't help as the flags & >> thus the icons are still showing. >> >> Can somebody please tell me if there is a way to do this without having >> to delete them all from the 'boxes' section? I am sure there must be & >> that it is quite simple but for the life of me I can't find out how; I >> must be missing something obvious. >> >> t.i.a. >> Sandra. >> >> >> >> --- >> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >> https://www.avast.com/antivirus >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

1. OK 2. All the Diagram Options, including Text Schemes, can be applied to FH Charts. What makes you think they can't? 3. That is the purpose of Custom Diagram Types - to save customised tab settings. But why stop at Boxes, why not suggest schemes for every tab? 4. Text Schemes are saved in plain text format that permit editing with say the Windows Notepad editor. With a little experimentation you can work out how each line relates to each option in the FH dialogue. 5. The Apply button in the Edit Text Scheme dialogue does that already. 6. That would be useful and is related to the whole topic of formatting text throughout FH with tabs, bold, italics, etc, that has been pending for too many years. Regards, Mike Tate -----Original Message----- From: family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Paul via Sent: 02 April 2016 00:20 To: family-historian-users@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FHU] Help with diagrams 1. May I add to Mike's helpful suggestions with an observation and proposals for further program enhancement? 2. One of Family Historian's claims to fame is the facility to create *Text Schemes* (in the Text tab of Diagram Options) to be applied to Diagrams (btw, why not to Charts?). Once a text scheme has been created, it is easy to clone (save with a different name) then modify and re-save. This allows us to invent super-detailed diagrams and (for example) strip out features for a more compact presentation. 3. My first suggestion is to provide a similar "Boxes Schemes" facility, possibly an alternative way to help Sandra Collins. 4. A second suggestion is to provide a more user-friendly editing facility for Text Schemes themselves. At present the schemes are saved in some special data format I can't understand. In principle it should be possible to convert to a plain text format. This would permit editing with a text editor and greatly assist re-arranging, copying and pasting blocks of the scheme, and other "simple" changes that can easily go wrong at the moment. 5. Third suggestion: a Text Scheme preview window, using data from a selected person or family. This would reduce the delays involved in saving the text scheme, reviewing the effect of changes and returning (if needed) to the scheme editor. 6. Fourth suggestion concerns horizontal spacing: we have some control over vertical spacing (new lines, gap lines and font size) but nothing much horizontally. How about rulers to control zoning when subsequent tab characters are inserted? Paul ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

1. May I add to Mike's helpful suggestions with an observation and proposals for further program enhancement? 2. One of Family Historian's claims to fame is the facility to create *Text Schemes* (in the Text tab of Diagram Options) to be applied to Diagrams (btw, why not to Charts?). Once a text scheme has been created, it is easy to clone (save with a different name) then modify and re-save. This allows us to invent super-detailed diagrams and (for example) strip out features for a more compact presentation. 3. My first suggestion is to provide a similar "Boxes Schemes" facility, possibly an alternative way to help Sandra Collins. 4. A second suggestion is to provide a more user-friendly editing facility for Text Schemes themselves. At present the schemes are saved in some special data format I can't understand. In principle it should be possible to convert to a plain text format. This would permit editing with a text editor and greatly assist re-arranging, copying and pasting blocks of the scheme, and other "simple" changes that can easily go wrong at the moment. 5. Third suggestion: a Text Scheme preview window, using data from a selected person or family. This would reduce the delays involved in saving the text scheme, reviewing the effect of changes and returning (if needed) to the scheme editor. 6. Fourth suggestion concerns horizontal spacing: we have some control over vertical spacing (new lines, gap lines and font size) but nothing much horizontally. How about rulers to control zoning when subsequent tab characters are inserted? Paul

Thank you Mike; I think I understand it so I am going to have a play with it now; I will let you know how I get on or if I need more help. Sandra On 1/4/2016 4:42 PM, Beryl and Mike Tate via wrote: > Yes, simply create two Diagram Types or FH Charts. > I suspect you have only been customising the Standard Diagram available from > the toolbar icons or via View > Standard Diagram Types. > > With the Diagram open, customise the Boxes tab as required, then use Diagram >> Save Diagram As > Custom Diagram Type and give it a memorable name. > Thereafter, use View > Custom Diagram Types and choose that memorable name. > You can save as many different Diagram Types as you like to preserve various > custom settings. > > You can also use Diagram > Save Diagram As > Family Historian Chart and give > it a name. That will not only save the custom settings but also the part of > the family tree for your relatives. Thereafter, use View > Save Charts. Note > that they are not frozen in time, and will still update when new data or > boxes are added to the family tree branch on display. > > Regards, Mike Tate > > -----Original Message----- > Subject: [FHU] Help with diagrams > > Good afternoon, > I need some help please with diagrams. I am using FH 5.0.9 > > I like to work with diagrams and with lots of flags - I currently have > 68 record flags which I have in my 'boxes' section of diagram options, > each with an icon. It helps me when viewing the diagram to see at a > glance for instance who emigrated or who is missing a birth > registration. This all works extremely well for me & I love the ability > to be able to work this way. > > However there are times, especially when I want to print off part of a > tree for a relative, or for my records, when I don't want the icons to > appear. So far I can't find a way to do this other than to delete all > the record flags from the 'boxes' section, which means I have to > reinstall them all again to be able to use them & this is very time > consuming, apart from driving me nuts in the process. Even by trying > different options of tree from the text box doesn't help as the flags & > thus the icons are still showing. > > Can somebody please tell me if there is a way to do this without having > to delete them all from the 'boxes' section? I am sure there must be & > that it is quite simple but for the life of me I can't find out how; I > must be missing something obvious. > > t.i.a. > Sandra. > > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Yes, simply create two Diagram Types or FH Charts. I suspect you have only been customising the Standard Diagram available from the toolbar icons or via View > Standard Diagram Types. With the Diagram open, customise the Boxes tab as required, then use Diagram > Save Diagram As > Custom Diagram Type and give it a memorable name. Thereafter, use View > Custom Diagram Types and choose that memorable name. You can save as many different Diagram Types as you like to preserve various custom settings. You can also use Diagram > Save Diagram As > Family Historian Chart and give it a name. That will not only save the custom settings but also the part of the family tree for your relatives. Thereafter, use View > Save Charts. Note that they are not frozen in time, and will still update when new data or boxes are added to the family tree branch on display. Regards, Mike Tate -----Original Message----- Subject: [FHU] Help with diagrams Good afternoon, I need some help please with diagrams. I am using FH 5.0.9 I like to work with diagrams and with lots of flags - I currently have 68 record flags which I have in my 'boxes' section of diagram options, each with an icon. It helps me when viewing the diagram to see at a glance for instance who emigrated or who is missing a birth registration. This all works extremely well for me & I love the ability to be able to work this way. However there are times, especially when I want to print off part of a tree for a relative, or for my records, when I don't want the icons to appear. So far I can't find a way to do this other than to delete all the record flags from the 'boxes' section, which means I have to reinstall them all again to be able to use them & this is very time consuming, apart from driving me nuts in the process. Even by trying different options of tree from the text box doesn't help as the flags & thus the icons are still showing. Can somebody please tell me if there is a way to do this without having to delete them all from the 'boxes' section? I am sure there must be & that it is quite simple but for the life of me I can't find out how; I must be missing something obvious. t.i.a. Sandra. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

Good afternoon, I need some help please with diagrams. I am using FH 5.0.9 I like to work with diagrams and with lots of flags – I currently have 68 record flags which I have in my 'boxes' section of diagram options, each with an icon. It helps me when viewing the diagram to see at a glance for instance who emigrated or who is missing a birth registration. This all works extremely well for me & I love the ability to be able to work this way. However there are times, especially when I want to print off part of a tree for a relative, or for my records, when I don't want the icons to appear. So far I can't find a way to do this other than to delete all the record flags from the 'boxes' section, which means I have to reinstall them all again to be able to use them & this is very time consuming, apart from driving me nuts in the process. Even by trying different options of tree from the text box doesn't help as the flags & thus the icons are still showing. Can somebody please tell me if there is a way to do this without having to delete them all from the 'boxes' section? I am sure there must be & that it is quite simple but for the life of me I can't find out how; I must be missing something obvious. t.i.a. Sandra.

The amount of free storage with SkyDrive/OneDrive has gone up & down over the years. Currently it is 15 GBytes plus another 15 GBytes if you opt into the Camera Roll bonus. Yes, subscribing to Office 365 is often an economic option with a 1 TByte bonus. See the FHUG Knowledge Base for full details: http://www.fhug.org.uk/wiki/doku.php?id=fhugdownloads:contents:microsoft_skydrive Upgrading to Windows 10 does often upset file permissions that can be difficult to fix, and explains documents opening in 'read only' mode. See the FHUG Knowledge Base for Windows 10 Upgrade tips: http://www.fhug.org.uk/wiki/doku.php?id=glossary:windows_10_upgrade_tips Usually, when you login to Windows 10, the Username is your Microsoft account Email address. That is also used to access Outlook Mail, the Microsoft Store, and OneDrive cloud store. So when you upgraded to Windows 10, what Microsoft account Username did you select? If it is not the same as the Microsoft OneDrive account used elsewhere then you will never get synch. If the OneDrive client is not running, there will be no icon in Notification Area, and thus no cloud store synch. Check the 'Show hidden icons' triangular button in the Notification Area that might reveal the OneDrive icon. Otherwise, type OneDrive into Search box on left, and click OneDrive above to start the client running. A Google search for 'How to start OneDrive in Windows 10' offers loads of advice. Regards, Mike Tate -----Original Message----- Subject: Re: [FHU] Problems Saving Gedcom file Mike Thanks for your reply This is what I did. I set things up myself I started with Sky Drive. As you know this name was changed to One Drive. As you say it is a free account but only up to a limit 2Gb? When One Drive came into being I subscribed to 20GB costing me a fiver a month. When Office 365 came into use. I found that it was subject to a year fee. Previous Office versions did not have this. You just paid for the software. Later I learned that Office 365 included 1TB of One Drive. So I decided to have this for just under £60 a year. After all 12 x £5 comes to £60 so might as well have the office 365. Once I had this everything was great. I could see the same things on both my lap top and desk top in addition to my mobile. I had Wind 8.1 at the time Then Win 10 was released with free upgrades from 8.1. Whilst I do like Windows 10 it affected all my files. Both Word and Excel which opened with a new title and in 'read only' format. Have sorted some of these out but haven;t opened them all yet. I have quite a few thousand of these files. In addition to this what I see on my lap top is not what I see on my desktop. Here I am talking about new additions since I upgraded to Windows 10. I have tried to find if I had 2 versions of One Drive but can't find anything. The only One Drive cloud ikon I see is on my File Explorer. There is nothing on my desktop I will have to find time to chat to MS. It is good that they have an on line chat facility. Regards Victor

Mike Thanks for your reply This is what I did. I set things up myself I started with Sky Drive. As you know this name was changed to One Drive. As you say it is a free account but only up to a limit 2Gb? When One Drive came into being I subscribed to 20GB costing me a fiver a month. When Office 365 came into use. I found that it was subject to a year fee. Previous Office versions did not have this. You just paid for the software. Later I learned that Office 365 included 1TB of One Drive. So I decided to have this for just under £60 a year. After all 12 x £5 comes to £60 so might as well have the office 365. Once I had this everything was great. I could see the same things on both my lap top and desk top in addition to my mobile. I had Wind 8.1 at the time Then Win 10 was released with free upgrades from 8.1. Whilst I do like Windows 10 it affected all my files. Both Word and Excel which opened with a new title and in 'read only' format. Have sorted some of these out but haven;t opened them all yet. I have quite a few thousand of these files. In addition to this what I see on my lap top is not what I see on my desktop. Here I am talking about new additions since I upgraded to Windows 10. I have tried to find if I had 2 versions of One Drive but can't find anything. The only One Drive cloud ikon I see is on my File Explorer. There is nothing on my desktop I will have to find time to chat to MS. It is good that they have an on line chat facility. Regards Victor On 30/03/2016 5:43 PM, Beryl & Mike Tate via wrote: > Anyone can open a free Microsoft account. > So it depends how your Windows 10 PC has been set up. > Did you ask somebody else to set up the Windows 10 login account and thus its OneDrive account? > Do you login to Windows 10 with an Email address style username and enter a password? > > As I said, click on the OneDrive cloud icon and it tells you the account it is using. > > Are those accounts the same via the desktop and laptop OneDrive cloud icon? > > You do not pay for Microsoft accounts as they are free, unless you are buying extra storage or Office 365. > You can have as many Microsoft accounts as you like. > They just need different Email addresses for their username. > > If you chat with MS I suspect they will ask you much the same questions as above to identify which accounts you are using. > > Regards, Mike Tate > > -----Original Message----- > Subject: Re: [FHU] Problems Saving Gedcom file > > I have wondered if another account had been opened without my knowledge. > I am only paying for one account. This is something I will have to chat with MS about. I have checked to see if I had two accounts > but have not been able to find anything to lead me to this. > > Victor > > On 30/03/2016 5:12 PM, Beryl & Mike Tate via wrote: >> Victor, are you sure you are using the same OneDrive account on Windows 10 as on the other devices. >> If you have created a new Microsoft account to login in Windows 10, >> then that account is used by OneDrive, and almost certainly differs from the other devices. >> Does the OneDrive client cloud icon appear in the Notification area bottom right? >> Right-click that icon and choose Settings > Account tab to check the OneDrive account name. >> Click 'Choose folders' and check the appropriated folders are ticked. >> I presume you have your FH Projects and photos within the OneDrive folder on Windows 10. >> >> Regards, Mike Tate >> >> -----Original Message----- >> Subject: Re: [FHU] Problems Saving Gedcom file >> >> I had no problems with One Drive until I upgraded to Windows 10. >> Nothing syncs any more. Not just FH but also all the extra photos I have added. >> The photos don't even appear on my mobile. But my photos taken on my >> mobile appear on my lap top under One Drive but not my desk top. >> >> I think it is time I asked MS about this >> >> Victor >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Anyone can open a free Microsoft account. So it depends how your Windows 10 PC has been set up. Did you ask somebody else to set up the Windows 10 login account and thus its OneDrive account? Do you login to Windows 10 with an Email address style username and enter a password? As I said, click on the OneDrive cloud icon and it tells you the account it is using. Are those accounts the same via the desktop and laptop OneDrive cloud icon? You do not pay for Microsoft accounts as they are free, unless you are buying extra storage or Office 365. You can have as many Microsoft accounts as you like. They just need different Email addresses for their username. If you chat with MS I suspect they will ask you much the same questions as above to identify which accounts you are using. Regards, Mike Tate -----Original Message----- Subject: Re: [FHU] Problems Saving Gedcom file I have wondered if another account had been opened without my knowledge. I am only paying for one account. This is something I will have to chat with MS about. I have checked to see if I had two accounts but have not been able to find anything to lead me to this. Victor On 30/03/2016 5:12 PM, Beryl & Mike Tate via wrote: > Victor, are you sure you are using the same OneDrive account on Windows 10 as on the other devices. > If you have created a new Microsoft account to login in Windows 10, > then that account is used by OneDrive, and almost certainly differs from the other devices. > Does the OneDrive client cloud icon appear in the Notification area bottom right? > Right-click that icon and choose Settings > Account tab to check the OneDrive account name. > Click 'Choose folders' and check the appropriated folders are ticked. > I presume you have your FH Projects and photos within the OneDrive folder on Windows 10. > > Regards, Mike Tate > > -----Original Message----- > Subject: Re: [FHU] Problems Saving Gedcom file > > I had no problems with One Drive until I upgraded to Windows 10. > Nothing syncs any more. Not just FH but also all the extra photos I have added. > The photos don't even appear on my mobile. But my photos taken on my > mobile appear on my lap top under One Drive but not my desk top. > > I think it is time I asked MS about this > > Victor >

I have wondered if another account had been opened without my knowledge. I am only paying for one account. This is something I will have to chat with MS about. I have checked to see if I had two accounts but have not been able to find anything to lead me to this. Victor On 30/03/2016 5:12 PM, Beryl & Mike Tate via wrote: > Victor, are you sure you are using the same OneDrive account on Windows 10 as on the other devices. > If you have created a new Microsoft account to login in Windows 10, then that account is used by OneDrive, and almost certainly > differs from the other devices. > Does the OneDrive client cloud icon appear in the Notification area bottom right? > Right-click that icon and choose Settings > Account tab to check the OneDrive account name. > Click 'Choose folders' and check the appropriated folders are ticked. > I presume you have your FH Projects and photos within the OneDrive folder on Windows 10. > > Regards, Mike Tate > > -----Original Message----- > From: family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Victor Markham > via > Sent: 30 March 2016 16:58 > To: family-historian-users@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [FHU] Problems Saving Gedcom file > > I had no problems with One Drive until I upgraded to Windows 10. Nothing syncs any more. Not just FH but also all the extra photos I > have added. > The photos don't even appear on my mobile. But my photos taken on my mobile appear on my lap top under One Drive but not my desk > top. > > I think it is time I asked MS about this > > Victor > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Victor, are you sure you are using the same OneDrive account on Windows 10 as on the other devices. If you have created a new Microsoft account to login in Windows 10, then that account is used by OneDrive, and almost certainly differs from the other devices. Does the OneDrive client cloud icon appear in the Notification area bottom right? Right-click that icon and choose Settings > Account tab to check the OneDrive account name. Click 'Choose folders' and check the appropriated folders are ticked. I presume you have your FH Projects and photos within the OneDrive folder on Windows 10. Regards, Mike Tate -----Original Message----- From: family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Victor Markham via Sent: 30 March 2016 16:58 To: family-historian-users@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FHU] Problems Saving Gedcom file I had no problems with One Drive until I upgraded to Windows 10. Nothing syncs any more. Not just FH but also all the extra photos I have added. The photos don't even appear on my mobile. But my photos taken on my mobile appear on my lap top under One Drive but not my desk top. I think it is time I asked MS about this Victor

I had no problems with One Drive until I upgraded to Windows 10. Nothing syncs any more. Not just FH but also all the extra photos I have added. The photos don't even appear on my mobile. But my photos taken on my mobile appear on my lap top under One Drive but not my desk top. I think it is time I asked MS about this Victor On 30/03/2016 4:34 PM, Tony Ward via wrote: > Makes interesting reading !! > I had the same problem as Jayne when I upgraded to Windows 10. Had no > problems using google drive for some time using 8.1, > I now prevent Drive from syncing until I had exited FH, since then I had > had no issues. Might try one drive as Mike suggested. > Regards to all > Tony > > On 30 March 2016 at 15:33, Lesley Baxendale via < > family-historian-users@rootsweb.com> wrote: > >> Not just me with the belt & braces approach then! >> >> Lesley >> >> On 30/03/2016 10:49, Malcolm Smith wrote: >>> Lesley >>> >>> An external hard drive? I've bucket loads of the things. >>> >>> As I have told everyone I know that there's one constant in IT ever >>> since I ran into a mainframe in the 70s is that every hard drive is >>> guaranteed to fail. In as much as the same way that pacemakers have >>> lifetime guarantees... >>> >>> Malc >>> >>> On 30/03/2016 09:39, Lesley Baxendale via wrote: >>>> Hi Malc, >>>> >>>> I use SyncBackFree too & I can understand why you do it the way around >>>> you do if you have a slow internet connection. However, it's the risk >>>> of losing everything in between back-ups to DropBox that would bother >>>> me. I had a hard drive failure a couple of years ago & if I hadn't just >>>> done a back-up to an external drive when it happened (this was before I >>>> started using DropBox) I would have lost all my current files. >>>> >>>> Now, I keep my 'live' FH files in the appropriate DropBox folder on my >>>> laptop, from where they are synced as we go. I have another copy backed >>>> up using SynchBackFree, to an external hard drive, just in case. >>>> >>>> As you are virtually forced to do it 'the other way around', I would >>>> suggest you also have a local back-up copy on external media of some >>>> kind, just in case your computer fails and you can't get to DropBox for >>>> some reason. >>>> >>>> A bit belt & braces, but you never know! >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> >>>> Lesley >>>> Colwyn Bay >>>> (where the broadband connection is pretty good, providing it isn't tea >>>> time & the world & his wife are logging on after work!). >>>> >>>> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message