No. Yes. See <http://faq.family-historian.co.uk/index.php?action=artikel&cat=1&id=22&artlang=en&highlight=two> http://faq.family-historian.co.uk/index.php?action=artikel&cat=1&id=22&artlang=en&highlight=two HTH John _____ From: family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Graham Wells Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 12:14 PM To: FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS@rootsweb.com Subject: [FHU] Re. Advise on laptop vs netbook I suppose I could plough through the small print to answer this question but if one does run a copy of Family Historian, on say a desktop, is a separate licence required to also run a copy on ones netbook or laptop? At the moment I only run ver. 4.1.3 on my desktop but reading the other posts on this topic realise it would be very useful to have a portable copy as well. If this allowed can I install, to my netbook, ver 3 from the CD and upgrade it to ver. 4.1.3 on-line again without paying for another upgrade? As I am the only person who uses both these computers, Family Historian would never be run on both computers at the same time. Regards Graham ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _____ avast! <http://www.avast.com> Antivirus: Inbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 02/11/2011 Tested on: 02/11/2011 12:27:02 avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2011 AVAST Software. _____ avast! Antivirus <http://www.avast.com> : Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 02/11/2011 Tested on: 02/11/2011 12:33:53 avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2011 AVAST Software.

I suppose I could plough through the small print to answer this question but if one does run a copy of Family Historian, on say a desktop, is a separate licence required to also run a copy on ones netbook or laptop? At the moment I only run ver. 4.1.3 on my desktop but reading the other posts on this topic realise it would be very useful to have a portable copy as well. If this allowed can I install, to my netbook, ver 3 from the CD and upgrade it to ver. 4.1.3 on-line again without paying for another upgrade? As I am the only person who uses both these computers, Family Historian would never be run on both computers at the same time. Regards Graham

Penny If you have a DVD drive on your PC, and make it shareable, then you can access it from any other machine on your WIFI network. That means that you won't need an external DVD just for program loading. I have successfully installed quite a lot of software on a laptop with a broken DVD from a laptop with a working DVD. Hope that helps as well.... Terry > Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 08:45:58 +0000 > From: Victor Markham <victor@markham.me.uk> > Subject: Re: [FHU] Advise on laptop vs netbook > To: family-historian-users@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <4EAE6046.7030800@markham.me.uk> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Penny > > I have a Netbook and have no problems using FH on this. Mind you a > laptop will give you a bigger screen and the individual details are not > fully shown on the Netbook > > The reason I bought the Netbook is because it is light and I take it on > flights I make (for holiday not family search) and it helps to come > within the weight limits. But I still use my pc for all FH details. > Copying them onto my Netbook from time to time using an image stick (or > flash drive as some prefer to call it) > > With a Netbook you will need an external DVD to load software onto it. > > Hope this helps > > Victor > > On 31/10/2011 8:19 AM, Penny Haysom wrote: > > > > > > > > Hope it's allowed to ask a hardware question on this site? > > I would be grateful for any advice on how people have found using > Family Historian with either a laptop or a netbook, please. Currently > just have a PC, but have been looking at a more mobile solution. My IT > chap reckons a netbook with good battery life would be fine, (and I'd > just as soon have something lighter and easier to transport), but I'd > be interested to hear of actual experience. > > Many thanks. > > Penny > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY- > HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ****************************************

Thanks to everyone for the advice. I shall hasten me down to John Lewis and investigate! Penny

Penny: all good advice you have received. But I urge you to do more. Make sure you can see working both notebooks and netbooks at somewhere like John Lewis. Look at the screens and see if the salesman can display something useful such as a screen full of text. Depending upon your age and general visual acuity, you might find a netbook screen a bit small. Many people with good vision do not find it small, of course. Stay with the screen at a good shop for enough time to make sure you do not feel eye strain. Ask the salesman about touch sensitive screens. If you decline such a screen (it's not needed at present for FH), make sure you do so for the right reasons such as it is not necessary for you. Ask about battery life - no point in buying anything portable if the battery will run out of charge when you are away from home. A program such as FH might well make a good number of disc accesses when in use (depends just what you are doing) and hard disc activity will run down the battery faster than say simple web browsing. Programs such as FH have displays that extend beyond normal sized screens and it's necessary to scroll vertically and horizontally to see all - the larger the screen the less the scrolling. One of our number recommended buying an external hard disc for a netbook. Yes do get one and even if you buy a larger notebook. You must back up your system on a regular basis. Never, ever, back up to the same hard drive that's in the laptop or PC. An external HD will set you back a mere £50 or so, an insignificant cost compared with the cost of losing your work. I think one of our number pointed out that netbooks won't have an optical drive (a DVD reader/writer) in their tiny cases so you will need to buy one. Oh, if you do go the netbook route, make sure it uses Windows 7. People do run programs such as FH under an emulator that allows an Apple laptop to run Windows applications, but this is a complication you might want to avoid. Unless you know someone with an Apple who can run Windows who could demonstrate it to you. Ian

Hello Mike, Thank You for your reply. I run two genealogy programmes and I have managed to get myself into a mess keeping them both up to date. I had thought to split off my FH data base and export the updated parts into the other programme so I could then compare. Now that I think about it, it will be a lot of work either way, so shall just go with using the Records window,Updated Date order list. Regards, Jean PS I had made a copy and was then trying to use the "Split Tree Helper". -----Original Message----- From: family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Beryl & Mike Tate Sent: Sunday, 30 October 2011 5:05 a.m. To: family-historian-users@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FHU] Splitting a data base If you simply want to identify records updated since 26 June 2010, then in the Records Window click on the Updated column and the Records are listed in descending Updated date order. Remember that it may not only be Individual Records that have been updated, but also Family, Source, Note, Multimedia, etc. You do not say which command you are trying to use to split your data, and it is not clear what you mean by tick box 2 or 3. Regards, Mike Tate

Hello I'm using a HP netbook with windows 7. I have a complete copy of my FH project + all my research in progress files on it. I don't remember having a lot of problems setting it up & it is certainly a lot lighter than the laptop I used to take about. I do still keep the main project on the desktop, and synchronize the 2 copies fairly regularly Stella Phillips > > > Hope it's allowed to ask a hardware question on this site? > I would be grateful for any advice on how people have found using Family > Historian with either a laptop or a netbook, please. Currently just have > a PC, but have been looking at a more mobile solution. My IT chap reckons > a netbook with good battery life would be fine, (and I'd just as soon have > something lighter and easier to transport), but I'd be interested to hear > of actual experience. > Many thanks. > Penny > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

<<snipped>> advice on how people have found using Family Historian with either a laptop or a netbook, please. Currently just have a PC, but have been looking at a more mobile solution. <<snipped>> I have a desktop and a netbook, both running FH. If you end up with 2 machines, like me, you really need to designate one as the master and keep the other aligned by copying whenever you want / need to from the master to the other. It would be perverse if you didn't use the desktop as the master. Netbook is really just a marketing name for a laptop with less - generally less power, less weight and less screen. If you carry on with a desktop AS WELL, then there is, I think, no need for the extra power - and weight - of a "proper" laptop - just go for a netbook. If you only want to have one machine, then you really want to have a bit more power and screen, so go for a "proper" laptop with a bit more oomph. Other people's comments are important - you need an external drive to back up to and - if you have a netbook - an external DVD reader to allow you to simply load software on to the machine. Adrian B

Penny, I have used a laptop for nearly three years and would not go back to a desktop. The freedom to sit in my own armchair and browse sites such as Ancestry with a wireless connection, clean downloaded images using Picasa and update info into FH is wonderful. My wife also has a laptop so she helps with searching as well. Also can take it to family gatherings and show FH on modern large screen TVs with a PC input using a simple video output cable so the family can see data and trees is helpful. Can also make presentations on family history matters via a projector. A separate external hard drive as a backup is wise whichever you decide to purchase. Have no experience of using a netbook so cannot comment. Clive Spratt -----Original Message----- From: family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Penny Haysom Sent: 31 October 2011 08:19 To: family-historian-users@rootsweb.com Subject: [FHU] Advise on laptop vs netbook Hope it's allowed to ask a hardware question on this site? I would be grateful for any advice on how people have found using Family Historian with either a laptop or a netbook, please. Currently just have a PC, but have been looking at a more mobile solution. My IT chap reckons a netbook with good battery life would be fine, (and I'd just as soon have something lighter and easier to transport), but I'd be interested to hear of actual experience. Many thanks. Penny ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Any decent net book or laptop will run FH. So will a MacBook providing you have something like Parallels so you can run Windows. Sent from my iPhone On 31 Oct 2011, at 08:45, Victor Markham <victor@markham.me.uk> wrote: > Penny > > I have a Netbook and have no problems using FH on this. Mind you a > laptop will give you a bigger screen and the individual details are not > fully shown on the Netbook > > The reason I bought the Netbook is because it is light and I take it on > flights I make (for holiday not family search) and it helps to come > within the weight limits. But I still use my pc for all FH details. > Copying them onto my Netbook from time to time using an image stick (or > flash drive as some prefer to call it) > > With a Netbook you will need an external DVD to load software onto it. > > Hope this helps > > Victor > > On 31/10/2011 8:19 AM, Penny Haysom wrote: >> >> >> >> Hope it's allowed to ask a hardware question on this site? >> I would be grateful for any advice on how people have found using Family Historian with either a laptop or a netbook, please. Currently just have a PC, but have been looking at a more mobile solution. My IT chap reckons a netbook with good battery life would be fine, (and I'd just as soon have something lighter and easier to transport), but I'd be interested to hear of actual experience. >> Many thanks. >> Penny >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Penny I have a Netbook and have no problems using FH on this. Mind you a laptop will give you a bigger screen and the individual details are not fully shown on the Netbook The reason I bought the Netbook is because it is light and I take it on flights I make (for holiday not family search) and it helps to come within the weight limits. But I still use my pc for all FH details. Copying them onto my Netbook from time to time using an image stick (or flash drive as some prefer to call it) With a Netbook you will need an external DVD to load software onto it. Hope this helps Victor On 31/10/2011 8:19 AM, Penny Haysom wrote: > > > > Hope it's allowed to ask a hardware question on this site? > I would be grateful for any advice on how people have found using Family Historian with either a laptop or a netbook, please. Currently just have a PC, but have been looking at a more mobile solution. My IT chap reckons a netbook with good battery life would be fine, (and I'd just as soon have something lighter and easier to transport), but I'd be interested to hear of actual experience. > Many thanks. > Penny > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hope it's allowed to ask a hardware question on this site? I would be grateful for any advice on how people have found using Family Historian with either a laptop or a netbook, please. Currently just have a PC, but have been looking at a more mobile solution. My IT chap reckons a netbook with good battery life would be fine, (and I'd just as soon have something lighter and easier to transport), but I'd be interested to hear of actual experience. Many thanks. Penny

If you simply want to identify records updated since 26 June 2010, then in the Records Window click on the Updated column and the Records are listed in descending Updated date order. Remember that it may not only be Individual Records that have been updated, but also Family, Source, Note, Multimedia, etc. You do not say which command you are trying to use to split your data, and it is not clear what you mean by tick box 2 or 3. Regards, Mike Tate -----Original Message----- From: family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jean Price Sent: 29 October 2011 00:46 To: FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [FHU] Splitting a data base I want to split my data base as I want to look at all people that I have updated since 26 June 2010. I have made a copy of my data base - and then I am stuck. Do I tick box 2 or 3? And how do I put in the date of 26 June 2010 for the people I want saved to my new data base? Thank you for your help. Jean

I want to split my data base as I want to look at all people that I have updated since 26 June 2010. I have made a copy of my data base - and then I am stuck. Do I tick box 2 or 3? And how do I put in the date of 26 June 2010 for the people I want saved to my new data base? Thank you for your help. Jean

While trying to save a 'all relatives' diagram as a pdf I saw it was now coming out on two pages as there seems to be a width restriction of about 3mtrs. Is it possible to get it all on one page as I rely on family members being able to read it as a pdf and I'd like it on one continuous strip. Thanks Eddie

Just out of interest, Jane, it doesn't happen using Chrome. Thanks for the suggestion. Linda On 22 October 2011 19:04, Jane Taubman <janetaubman@gmail.com> wrote: > On 22 October 2011 17:51, Linda Hansen <lindamhansen@gmail.com> wrote: > > Processing via Word does get the data back to a better format. > > > > Anyone else out there have a better idea? > > Have you tried Firefox or Chrome as a browser, I haven't used IE for > years, which is probably why I have not noticed the problem. > > > -- > Jane. > > Jane Taubman | www.rjt.org.uk | www.taubman.org.uk |www.fhug.org.uk > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Sue, I think you could be right. When I cut and paste into Word I can see the website info is in table format. I've only been using IE9 for a couple of weeks, after upgrading my PC. Processing via Word does get the data back to a better format. Anyone else out there have a better idea? Linda On 22 October 2011 18:43, Sue Smith <suenchris1@live.co.uk> wrote: > I have the same problem - with data from lots of websites.. I think it's a > "feature" of IE9. When information from a table is pasted into FH, it is > converted to plain text with Carriage Return/Line feed between the cells. > > > > I paste the data in Word, select the table, and copy it. It can then be > pasted into FH. It only takes a few seconds - much quicker than editing out > the lines you don't want. If you don't have Word, I would imagine the same > can be done using the Open Office word processing program (free download). > Or you could try a different browser. Using Notepad doesn't work - it has > the same problem, though I think using Wordpad may. > > > > This is how Ancestry data looks after doing this > > > > Name: Leonard M Bartlett > > Mother's Maiden Surname: Vaughan-Hooper > > Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1956 > > Registration district: Gloucester City > > Inferred County: Gloucestershire > > Volume Number: 7b > > Page Number: > < > http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?rank=1&f1=&f0=&=&f22=Oct-Nov-D > > ec&rg_f8__date=1956&rs_f8__date=0&f4=7b&f5=572&f3=&f17=&f2=&gskw=&prox=1&db= > onsbirth84&gl=&gss=rfs&gst=&so=3<http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?rank=1&f1=&f0=&=&f22=Oct-Nov-Dec&rg_f8__date=1956&rs_f8__date=0&f4=7b&f5=572&f3=&f17=&f2=&gskw=&prox=1&db=onsbirth84&gl=&gss=rfs&gst=&so=3>> > 572 > > > > > > Regards > > > > Sue Smith > > > > > > > On 22 October 2011 16:57, Linda Hansen <lindamhansen@gmail.com> wrote: > > > When I cut and paste information into the Notes section of a Fact, it > copies > > > with triple line spacing and worse, then I have to delete all the > unused > > > > space between the words - most annoying. Is there something I should > change > > > to stop this happening? > > > > > > -- > > Jane. > > > > Jane Taubman | www.rjt.org.uk | www.taubman.org.uk |www.fhug.org.uk > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Jane, it happens when I cut and paste information from a website - and happens with a number of websites I haven't had a problem with in the past. If I cut and paste into Notepad the same thing happens - multiple lines between. The strange thing is that it used to work just fine - I've been doing this for 3 years and the problem has just arisen. A right mouse click in the FH Fact notes field comes up with quite a few options that I don't understand. Maybe one of these is to blame? Linda On 22 October 2011 18:18, Jane Taubman <janetaubman@gmail.com> wrote: > Where are you copying the information from? If you paste the > information into Notepad does that triple space? I have not > encountered any problems pasting in text so I suspect the issue is the > source of the information. > > On 22 October 2011 16:57, Linda Hansen <lindamhansen@gmail.com> wrote: > > When I cut and paste information into the Notes section of a Fact, it > copies > > with triple line spacing and worse, then I have to delete all the unused > > space between the words - most annoying. Is there something I should > change > > to stop this happening? > > > -- > Jane. > > Jane Taubman | www.rjt.org.uk | www.taubman.org.uk |www.fhug.org.uk > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

On 22 October 2011 17:51, Linda Hansen <lindamhansen@gmail.com> wrote: > Processing via Word does get the data back to a better format. > > Anyone else out there have a better idea? Have you tried Firefox or Chrome as a browser, I haven't used IE for years, which is probably why I have not noticed the problem. -- Jane. Jane Taubman | www.rjt.org.uk | www.taubman.org.uk |www.fhug.org.uk

Hi Everyone, This sounds like a trivial problem but it has become extremely annoying. It's only just started and I'm not sure if it's because I'm using Windows 7 or what. When I cut and paste information into the Notes section of a Fact, it copies with triple line spacing and worse, then I have to delete all the unused space between the words - most annoying. Is there something I should change to stop this happening? Yours in anticipation, Linda