I have prepared a large all relatives family tree diagram – it uses the maximum allowed length for a pdf file (approx 129 inches). Although the font size is 9pt I have had to scale down the diagram to 50% to fit within the desired length and consequently the size of the lettering is small. To make the direct ancestor line clearer I have put in two extra ancestor (maternal and paternal) trees on the diagram and would like to have them in a larger font for increased legibility. But I cannot see a way to do it. Maybe it is not possible. I marked the root person on the all relatives tree in a distinctive pink colour (it was a girl!) and found, to my surprise, that using the same root person in the ancestor trees did not give the same coloured box – it was the cream of a descendant. And although I was able to change the colour to the same pink as on the all relatives tree by using a marked box I am not sure why this happens. According to the Diagram Options Boxes for both Ancestor and for All Relative diagrams the colour of the root person is shown as pink. Grateful for any views/help. Joan

Thanks to Nick and Mike for the advice on the instalation of FH on my Mac, I made a typing error on the quoted FH version, which is 4.1.2. I did a trial run connecting my XP laptop to the Mac by cable, the Mac recognised the XP laptop, and gave a code with a series of numbers which stated I should see this code on my XP laptop, I cannot see this code, any ideas what I may be doing wrong. John ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Payne" <johnrav@tiscali.co.uk> To: <family-historian-users@rootsweb.com>of Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 7:18 PM Subject: [FHU] Family Historian to Mac > Having heard glowing reports of Mac computers on this user group, I have > purchased a Mac Book Pro 10.72 Lion. > I have ordered Paralells 7 and will be installing XP Professional Service > Pack 3. I would like to know if their are any > pitfalls to look out for during installation of Paralells and XP, Also > the installing of FH v.4.2. > > John > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.1869 / Virus Database: 2092/4620 - Release Date: 11/16/11 >

I presume FH v.4.2 was a slip of the keyboard, and you mean FH v.4.1.3. Anyway, you will need to install the FH full v.4.0 and then upgrade to FH v.4.1.3. Are you a new FH user, or are you migrating from an existing Windows PC ? Have a look at the FHUG > Knowledge Base > Family Historian Installation Guide, especially how to Move Family Historian Settings. See http://www.fhug.org.uk/wiki/doku.php?id=how_to:index#installation_guide Regards, Mike Tate -----Original Message----- From: family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of John Payne Sent: 17 November 2011 19:19 To: family-historian-users@rootsweb.com Subject: [FHU] Family Historian to Mac Having heard glowing reports of Mac computers on this user group, I have purchased a Mac Book Pro 10.72 Lion. I have ordered Paralells 7 and will be installing XP Professional Service Pack 3. I would like to know if their are any pitfalls to look out for during installation of Paralells and XP, Also the installing of FH v.4.2. John

I installed XP with Parallels and experienced no problems at all. XP will behave exactly as it does on a PC and will continue to recieve Windows updates. Just follow the installation instructions and you'll be fine. You won't regret the Mac. -----Original Message----- From: family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of John Payne Sent: 17 November 2011 19:19 To: family-historian-users@rootsweb.com Subject: [FHU] Family Historian to Mac Having heard glowing reports of Mac computers on this user group, I have purchased a Mac Book Pro 10.72 Lion. I have ordered Paralells 7 and will be installing XP Professional Service Pack 3. I would like to know if their are any pitfalls to look out for during installation of Paralells and XP, Also the installing of FH v.4.2. John ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Having heard glowing reports of Mac computers on this user group, I have purchased a Mac Book Pro 10.72 Lion. I have ordered Paralells 7 and will be installing XP Professional Service Pack 3. I would like to know if their are any pitfalls to look out for during installation of Paralells and XP, Also the installing of FH v.4.2. John

Thanks Jane and John. I shall get on with that. David > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 10:13:00 -0000 > From: "David Farmer" <d.farmer2@ntlworld.com> > Subject: [FHU] Version 4 > To: <FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <69701BF91A76412FAB99F88FFCB4ED59@DavidFarmerPC> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" > > Hello. I have a much earier version of Family Historian (I have Version > 2.1.8 with upgrade disc to 2.3.1). If I wanted to buy boxed Version 4 - > how would this affect my current version? Would this then accept the 'Free > CD upgrade to Version 5'? > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 10:19:13 +0000 > From: Jane Taubman <janetaubman@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [FHU] Version 4 > To: family-historian-users@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <CAKBTZLp5-iuauhFnvcTOYkTRo6qHt1h7o-AFVHaR2Kx1CwhNuQ@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Yes if you buy a full version of V4 it will upgrade your existing 2.1 > installation and then when V5 is available the free upgrade will take > you to V5. > > For more information on moving to Projects please see: > > http://www.family-historian.co.uk/lnk?f=1038 > > On 14 November 2011 10:13, David Farmer <d.farmer2@ntlworld.com> wrote: >> Hello. I have a much earlier version of Family Historian (I have Version >> 2.1.8 with upgrade disc to ?2.3.1). If I wanted to buy boxed Version 4 - >> how would this affect my current version? Would this then accept the >> 'Free CD upgrade to Version 5'? > > > -- > Jane. > > Jane Taubman | www.rjt.org.uk | www.taubman.org.uk |www.fhug.org.uk > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 10:24:57 -0000 > From: "John James" <john.wjames@which.net> > Subject: Re: [FHU] Version 4 > To: <family-historian-users@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <05628E5B3AD04B82AEB0F42F0A89A61C@STUDY> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > V4 would replace your current V2.3.1 on your machine. Your FH GEDCOM and > media files would remain intact. V4 gives you the option > of reorganising your files into V4 'Projects', bringing al your FH files > into a common folder structure, which I'd strongly > recommend (it makes backup and recover easier, for one thing). > > You would then be eligible for the V5 upgrade, which would change V4 to > V5. You would no longer have V2.3.1 anywhere (other than on > the now redundant installation discs). > > HTH > > John > > _____ > > From: family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of David > Farmer > Sent: Monday, November 14, 2011 10:13 AM > To: FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS@rootsweb.com > Subject: [FHU] Version 4 > > >

You need to edit the text scheme for the diagram. Right-click in the background of the diagram and select Diagram Options. In the Diagram Options box, select the Text tab. The particular text scheme you are using will be highlighted. Click Edit on the right hand side. In the Edit Text Scheme box, scroll down the right hand section to the Birth line. Click Edit in the lower right corner. This bring up the template for you to change. Click OK when you have changed it. At each stage you can click on the Help button in the current box for further guidance. Lorna On 14/11/2011 17:00, Ray Wigzell wrote: > I wanted to remove the word "in" from the born and died sentences, > which I have done by changing the place code in the facts > sets/properties menu. > This gives the desired result in reports, but still shows "in" on the > trees. I have looked for a way to remove it in diagram properties, but > without success. Is there another code I also need to change? >

You need to edit your text schemes they are not affected by the sentences. On 14 November 2011 17:00, Ray Wigzell <raywigz@gmail.com> wrote: > This gives the desired result in reports, but still shows "in" on the > trees. I have looked for a way to remove it in diagram properties, but > without success. Is there another code I also need to change? -- Jane. Jane Taubman | www.rjt.org.uk | www.taubman.org.uk |www.fhug.org.uk

Hi I wanted to remove the word "in" from the born and died sentences, which I have done by changing the place code in the facts sets/properties menu. This gives the desired result in reports, but still shows "in" on the trees. I have looked for a way to remove it in diagram properties, but without success. Is there another code I also need to change? Regards Ray

V4 would replace your current V2.3.1 on your machine. Your FH GEDCOM and media files would remain intact. V4 gives you the option of reorganising your files into V4 'Projects', bringing al your FH files into a common folder structure, which I'd strongly recommend (it makes backup and recover easier, for one thing). You would then be eligible for the V5 upgrade, which would change V4 to V5. You would no longer have V2.3.1 anywhere (other than on the now redundant installation discs). HTH John _____ From: family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of David Farmer Sent: Monday, November 14, 2011 10:13 AM To: FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS@rootsweb.com Subject: [FHU] Version 4 Hello. I have a much earier version of Family Historian (I have Version 2.1.8 with upgrade disc to 2.3.1). If I wanted to buy boxed Version 4 - how would this affect my current version? Would this then accept the 'Free CD upgrade to Version 5'? ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _____ avast! <http://www.avast.com> Antivirus: Inbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 13/11/2011 Tested on: 14/11/2011 10:18:11 avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2011 AVAST Software. _____ avast! Antivirus <http://www.avast.com> : Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 13/11/2011 Tested on: 14/11/2011 10:24:57 avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2011 AVAST Software.

Yes if you buy a full version of V4 it will upgrade your existing 2.1 installation and then when V5 is available the free upgrade will take you to V5. For more information on moving to Projects please see: http://www.family-historian.co.uk/lnk?f=1038 On 14 November 2011 10:13, David Farmer <d.farmer2@ntlworld.com> wrote: > Hello. I have a much earlier version of Family Historian (I have Version 2.1.8 with upgrade disc to  2.3.1). If I wanted to buy boxed Version 4 - how would this affect my current version? Would this then accept the 'Free CD upgrade to Version 5'? -- Jane. Jane Taubman | www.rjt.org.uk | www.taubman.org.uk |www.fhug.org.uk

Hello. I have a much earier version of Family Historian (I have Version 2.1.8 with upgrade disc to 2.3.1). If I wanted to buy boxed Version 4 - how would this affect my current version? Would this then accept the 'Free CD upgrade to Version 5'?

I use the traditional Place field format, but add [GRO District] on the right to show it is a post-1837 Registration District. Similarly, for pre-1837 parishes, I use [Church Parish] on the right. This I supplement with the actual birth/death address in the Address field, which as you say, is often quite different from the Registration District. Remember it is easy to make global changes using the Tools > Work with Data > Places options. Regards, Mike Tate -----Original Message----- From: family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of STEVE SYMES Sent: 13 November 2011 16:59 To: FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS@rootsweb.com Subject: [FHU] Modifying the birth /death fact sentence Hi I wonder if anyone can help with this little problem?: When I enter a birth / death place, if I only have the registration district, I use "reg." and then the district name, so that I know that it probably wasn't the actual place of birth /death. This is fine but it makes the relevant sentence read oddly - when I edit the sentence, thinking to remove the word "in" (which would be all I need to do) I find that the word "in" is not part of the sentence construction! Is there a way around this, please?   Regards Steve ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My solution to this was to put "the [Place name] registration district" making sure that the is all lower case. The sentence then reads OK Shelagh -----Original Message----- From: family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of STEVE SYMES Sent: 13 November 2011 16:59 To: FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS@rootsweb.com Subject: [FHU] Modifying the birth /death fact sentence Hi I wonder if anyone can help with this little problem?: When I enter a birth / death place, if I only have the registration district, I use "reg." and then the district name, so that I know that it probably wasn't the actual place of birth /death. This is fine but it makes the relevant sentence read oddly - when I edit the sentence, thinking to remove the word "in" (which would be all I need to do) I find that the word "in" is not part of the sentence construction! Is there a way around this, please?   Regards Steve ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Message: 4 Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2011 16:13:20 +0000 From: <glen.everard@tesco.net> Subject: [FHU] Talking of lost functions.. To: family-historian-users@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <20111108161320.X3742.677649.root@web10-winn.ispmail.private.ntl.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 My program no longer asks me if I want to copy media to file when I add media. I'm currently copying it manually but this is a pain. What have I done and how do I undo it? -- Glen ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2011 17:20:07 -0000 From: "Simon Orde" <simon-fhu@family-historian.co.uk> Subject: Re: [FHU] Talking of lost functions.. To: <family-historian-users@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <D3A48CAB27494D67A2ED7A1C4D7A025F@HUGH> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Glen - Assuming you have version 4.1, I can only think of 2 reasons why you might not be asked if you want to copy the media file into your project when you add media. You won't be asked to copy media if into your project if you don't have one open - i.e. if you are editing a standalone GEDCOM file, rather than a project. Also, even if you do have a project open, and not a standalone GEDCOM file, you still won't be asked to copy the media file into your project folder if it's already there - i.e. if the media file you have selected is already located in the media area within the project folder. Do either of these apply? If it's a standalone GEDCOM file you're editing, the main title bar of the window will say "Family Historian Gedcom - " followed by the name of the file. If you have a project open it will say "Family Historian Project - " followed by the name of the project. Or at least it will if you have 4.1. Simon Orde List Administrator & Family Historian designer Thank you Simon. I think that that is the answer. I do have version 4.1 and have been altering the Gedcom file as it is saved on a USB flash drive which I use on two different computers so it is easier to just open the Gedcom file. Each time I open it from the project menu it seems to need a different file path. Unfortunately I'm not that hot on computers and soon get tied up on the logistics. -- Glen

If you use the insert code button you will see that there are two place codes, to never include an "in" before the place use {_place} rather than {place} On 13 November 2011 16:58, STEVE SYMES <southofnonorth@btinternet.com> wrote: > thinking to remove the word "in" (which would be all I need to do) I find that the word "in" is not part of the sentence construction! -- Jane. Jane Taubman | www.rjt.org.uk | www.taubman.org.uk |www.fhug.org.uk

Hi I wonder if anyone can help with this little problem?: When I enter a birth / death place, if I only have the registration district, I use "reg." and then the district name, so that I know that it probably wasn't the actual place of birth /death. This is fine but it makes the relevant sentence read oddly - when I edit the sentence, thinking to remove the word "in" (which would be all I need to do) I find that the word "in" is not part of the sentence construction! Is there a way around this, please?   Regards Steve

No problems here https://www.familysearch.org/ Patricia On 13/11/2011 6:34:22 a.m., Sue Gascoyne (s.gascoyne2@ntlworld.com) wrote: > Is anyone else having difficulty getting to the Family Search.org page - > been trying for days and all I get is Internet Explorer cannot display > the > web page. > > I can get to the old version no problem. > > > Perhaps someone could provide me with the latest web page address please. > > > Many thanks > > Sue > > >

Simon, I too am having difficulty in deciding whether to go direct to V5 or buy the upgrade from V4.1 or buy another version of V4.1 now to get the free upgrade? Telling us the prices of V5 and the V4 - V5 upgrade would be extremely useful. David -----Original Message----- From: family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Margaret North Sent: 11 November 2011 14:58 To: family-historian-users@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FHU] *** News of Version 5 - and a Christmas Offer *** Simon, On 4th November I ordered from TWR Computing a boxed copy of Family Historian V4 as a Christmas present for my daughter, who has been impressed with the program when she has seen me using my copy. If I had been aware of the new version and the offer I would have delayed ordering in order that she could have the free upgrade to version 5. Can you confirm that because of the 10th November dealine she will be unable to get the free upgrade and also tell me how much the version 5 upgrade will cost on CD on it's release.

I have my FH installed on a windows 7 networked laptop without any problem whatsoever. I cannot think that v5 would have any problems with this. It was initially working, again without problems, on a vista laptop before my better half inherited that and I bought a bang up to the minute one for myself. If you want to treat yourself I suggest you just go for whatever you can afford in the up to date market, but get the full stand alone version and not an upgrade on an upgrade etc. Good luck Shelagh Original question _ "what hardware set up would be the ultimate, affordable and unaffordable, to treat [or be treated to] within the FH fraternity? Clearly there are diverse machines and Windows versions (pace Mac believers) but is there a consensus on targets for best buys? Petergb"