Subject: RE: [FHU] Diagram Text Scheme Export > Since FH V3 does not offer PDF then simply use any of the image file > formats such as JPEG File or PNG File, etc. > Use File > Save Diagram As... > Thanks for the suggestions, it looks like it's either an upgrade or convert to PDF such as John James suggested. Best Wishes. Ron

Shelagh & Victor Thanks for your help. I've now "moved" the child into the full family and added an extra row to my text scheme so "Adopted" now shows. Brian ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shelagh" <bessaston@gmail.com> To: <family-historian-users@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 6:33 PM Subject: Re: [FHU] Adopted Son > In the main focus window of the parents, where the list of children show, > there is the name of child, sex, date of birth, rel, then the arrow. When > on > the correct child line you can click in the "rel" box and it will bring up > a > list of options (illegitimate, birth, adopted etc.) you could try that. > > Shelagh > > -----Original Message----- > From: family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Brian > Horridge > Sent: 24 January 2012 16:38 > To: family-historian-users@rootsweb.com > Subject: [FHU] Adopted Son > > Can I ask how others record an adopted son. > > I have one with a family on the 1901 census where he is recorded with a > different surname. Initially, I linked him to the man by creating another > un-named spouse and the child is a descendant of that 2nd "relationship". > > However, it looks odd on a descendants chart but then it could easily be > misleading if I include him as a direct member of the main family group. > > I suppose I could create an "Adopted" flag and then use that to modify any > diagrams (either with an Icon or text line). > > Anyway, I'd appreciate any thoughts. > > Many thanks > > Brian > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

CutePDF Writer works well with v3.1.2. Once the program is installed, you can either save your diagram, go to that saved file, click Print, choose CutePDF as your printer and it will appear as a pdf file wherever you select. Alternativlely, from the diagram screen, > file >print setup, choose CutePDF Writer - again it will appear in pdf wherever you want it. Martin

Or install a PDF pseudo-printer, like cutePDF or pdf995, perhaps. John -----Original Message----- From: family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Beryl & Mike Tate Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 10:33 PM To: info@genealogyprinters.com; family-historian-users@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FHU] Diagram Text Scheme Export Since FH V3 does not offer PDF then simply use any of the image file formats such as JPEG File or PNG File, etc. Use File > Save Diagram As... Regards, Mike Tate -----Original Message----- From: family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of info@genealogyprinters.com Sent: 25 January 2012 17:14 To: family-historian-users@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FHU] Diagram Text Scheme Export > The best and simplest solution would be to ask your friend to send you > a PDF. But if you don't want to do that, and if he keeps his data in > a project, you might do this: ask him to save the diagram in chart > format and > send you the entire project, including the chart file. By sending you a > chart file you ensure that you will have all the options that he used. > But > before he saves his diagram in chart format he should select all boxes > in the chart and disable auto-sizing (e.g. zoom back and > click-and-drag to draw a stretchy box to 'lasso' all boxes and thereby > select them. Then right-click on any box and untick 'Autosize Box' on > the menu that appears). > When you open the chart, because auto-sizing has been disabled, the > boxes shouldn't have changed size or position. > > It will all be much easier in version 5. You will be able to open any > chart with autosize disabled for all boxes, even if the chart wasn't > saved like that. > He's got V3 the Autosize Box is not there, looks like it's down to the PDF option but because he's got V3 that's a new ball game I've got to explain to him. Thanks all Best Wishes. Ron ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Since FH V3 does not offer PDF then simply use any of the image file formats such as JPEG File or PNG File, etc. Use File > Save Diagram As... Regards, Mike Tate -----Original Message----- From: family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of info@genealogyprinters.com Sent: 25 January 2012 17:14 To: family-historian-users@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FHU] Diagram Text Scheme Export > The best and simplest solution would be to ask your friend to send you a > PDF. But if you don't want to do that, and if he keeps his data in a > project, you might do this: ask him to save the diagram in chart format > and > send you the entire project, including the chart file. By sending you a > chart file you ensure that you will have all the options that he used. > But > before he saves his diagram in chart format he should select all boxes in > the chart and disable auto-sizing (e.g. zoom back and click-and-drag to > draw > a stretchy box to 'lasso' all boxes and thereby select them. Then > right-click on any box and untick 'Autosize Box' on the menu that > appears). > When you open the chart, because auto-sizing has been disabled, the boxes > shouldn't have changed size or position. > > It will all be much easier in version 5. You will be able to open any > chart > with autosize disabled for all boxes, even if the chart wasn't saved like > that. > He's got V3 the Autosize Box is not there, looks like it's down to the PDF option but because he's got V3 that's a new ball game I've got to explain to him. Thanks all Best Wishes. Ron ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

> The best and simplest solution would be to ask your friend to send you a > PDF. But if you don't want to do that, and if he keeps his data in a > project, you might do this: ask him to save the diagram in chart format > and > send you the entire project, including the chart file. By sending you a > chart file you ensure that you will have all the options that he used. > But > before he saves his diagram in chart format he should select all boxes in > the chart and disable auto-sizing (e.g. zoom back and click-and-drag to > draw > a stretchy box to 'lasso' all boxes and thereby select them. Then > right-click on any box and untick 'Autosize Box' on the menu that > appears). > When you open the chart, because auto-sizing has been disabled, the boxes > shouldn't have changed size or position. > > It will all be much easier in version 5. You will be able to open any > chart > with autosize disabled for all boxes, even if the chart wasn't saved like > that. > He's got V3 the Autosize Box is not there, looks like it's down to the PDF option but because he's got V3 that's a new ball game I've got to explain to him. Thanks all Best Wishes. Ron

On 25 January 2012 13:45, <info@genealogyprinters.com> wrote: > Click File, Import/Export, Diagram Text Scheme and then in the next window > that opens there are no text schemes listed, the box is empty. This simply means they have customised a standard scheme. They will need to go in to the Text scheme tab and "clone" the scheme to a new custom one which you will be able to export. It's a good idea to always clone schemes when you are going to edit them or you risk the loss of the customisation when you upgrade. The same goes for customising Boxes always make sure you save a custom diagram type to go back to after an upgrade. -- Jane. Jane Taubman | www.rjt.org.uk | www.taubman.org.uk |www.fhug.org.uk

Ron Mike is quite right that the layout of diagrams is in part dependent on your printer (as well as text scheme and other diagram settings, and even on what fonts you have installed). Even if you both have all the same fonts, different printers render different fonts differently, and this can affect layout. What you see on the screen with a diagram, is what you will get (and what looks best) when printed. Unless you and your friendly have identical printers (and printer drivers) there may be differences. And even very small, subtle differences get magnified at the tips of tree branches. The best and simplest solution would be to ask your friend to send you a PDF. But if you don't want to do that, and if he keeps his data in a project, you might do this: ask him to save the diagram in chart format and send you the entire project, including the chart file. By sending you a chart file you ensure that you will have all the options that he used. But before he saves his diagram in chart format he should select all boxes in the chart and disable auto-sizing (e.g. zoom back and click-and-drag to draw a stretchy box to 'lasso' all boxes and thereby select them. Then right-click on any box and untick 'Autosize Box' on the menu that appears). When you open the chart, because auto-sizing has been disabled, the boxes shouldn't have changed size or position. It will all be much easier in version 5. You will be able to open any chart with autosize disabled for all boxes, even if the chart wasn't saved like that. Simon Orde List Administrator & Family Historian designer ----- Original Message ----- From: "Beryl & Mike Tate" <post@tatewise.co.uk> To: <info@genealogyprinters.com>; <family-historian-users@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 2:40 PM Subject: Re: [FHU] Diagram Text Scheme Export > Ron, > > I think there are two issues here. > > It is my understanding that Diagrams, and saved Charts, are format > dependent on your Printer setup. > So unless you both have identical Printers and settings, the Diagrams may > be presented slightly differently. > > File > Import/Export only applies to Custom items - Query, Fact Set, Text > Scheme, etc, but NOT Standard ones. > This is true even if you have edited the Standard ones. > The workaround is to make a Custom copy of each customised Standard item. > The commands are different for each type of item, but for Text Schemes you > use the Clone button. > > Regards, Mike Tate > > > -----Original Message----- > From: family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of > info@genealogyprinters.com > Sent: 25 January 2012 13:46 > To: family-historian-users@rootsweb.com > Subject: [FHU] Diagram Text Scheme Export > > Opening someone else's gedcom and saved diagram I am not seeing exactly > the > same diagram as they are, some aspects of the diagram are out of position > > Some text boxes are overlapping, this to me would usually indicate that we > are not using the same diagram text scheme. > > It appears that we are but just to make sure I asked them to send me the > text scheme from their system but when trying to instruct the other person > as to how to do that we have hit a problem. > > Click File, Import/Export, Diagram Text Scheme and then in the next window > that opens there are no text schemes listed, the box is empty. > > Any ideas please. > > Thanks > > Ron > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Ron, I think there are two issues here. It is my understanding that Diagrams, and saved Charts, are format dependent on your Printer setup. So unless you both have identical Printers and settings, the Diagrams may be presented slightly differently. File > Import/Export only applies to Custom items - Query, Fact Set, Text Scheme, etc, but NOT Standard ones. This is true even if you have edited the Standard ones. The workaround is to make a Custom copy of each customised Standard item. The commands are different for each type of item, but for Text Schemes you use the Clone button. Regards, Mike Tate -----Original Message----- From: family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of info@genealogyprinters.com Sent: 25 January 2012 13:46 To: family-historian-users@rootsweb.com Subject: [FHU] Diagram Text Scheme Export Opening someone else's gedcom and saved diagram I am not seeing exactly the same diagram as they are, some aspects of the diagram are out of position Some text boxes are overlapping, this to me would usually indicate that we are not using the same diagram text scheme. It appears that we are but just to make sure I asked them to send me the text scheme from their system but when trying to instruct the other person as to how to do that we have hit a problem. Click File, Import/Export, Diagram Text Scheme and then in the next window that opens there are no text schemes listed, the box is empty. Any ideas please. Thanks Ron

Opening someone else's gedcom and saved diagram I am not seeing exactly the same diagram as they are, some aspects of the diagram are out of position Some text boxes are overlapping, this to me would usually indicate that we are not using the same diagram text scheme. It appears that we are but just to make sure I asked them to send me the text scheme from their system but when trying to instruct the other person as to how to do that we have hit a problem. Click File, Import/Export, Diagram Text Scheme and then in the next window that opens there are no text schemes listed, the box is empty. Any ideas please. Thanks Ron

- sorry ...................I can answer my own question - use the VIEW button at the top and enable Navigation Bar. I will creep away quietly L -------------------------------------------------- From: "Laraine Hake" <laraine10@btinternet.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 8:51 PM To: <family-historian-users@rootsweb.com> Subject: [FHU] navigation bar > There has got to be an obvious answer to this..........but I would like to > have it pointed out to me please! > > Having had FHU for a few months, I am starting again at the beginning of > "Getting the most out of FHU" [now on chapter 3 and noticing a whole lot > that did not sink in first time round] but I have just realised that I > cannot see the Navigation Bar that ought to be on the lhs of the Focus > Window (or the Records Window or whatever) > > What have I done? > > Laraine > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

There has got to be an obvious answer to this..........but I would like to have it pointed out to me please! Having had FHU for a few months, I am starting again at the beginning of "Getting the most out of FHU" [now on chapter 3 and noticing a whole lot that did not sink in first time round] but I have just realised that I cannot see the Navigation Bar that ought to be on the lhs of the Focus Window (or the Records Window or whatever) What have I done? Laraine

In the main focus window of the parents, where the list of children show, there is the name of child, sex, date of birth, rel, then the arrow. When on the correct child line you can click in the "rel" box and it will bring up a list of options (illegitimate, birth, adopted etc.) you could try that. Shelagh -----Original Message----- From: family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Brian Horridge Sent: 24 January 2012 16:38 To: family-historian-users@rootsweb.com Subject: [FHU] Adopted Son Can I ask how others record an adopted son. I have one with a family on the 1901 census where he is recorded with a different surname. Initially, I linked him to the man by creating another un-named spouse and the child is a descendant of that 2nd "relationship". However, it looks odd on a descendants chart but then it could easily be misleading if I include him as a direct member of the main family group. I suppose I could create an "Adopted" flag and then use that to modify any diagrams (either with an Icon or text line). Anyway, I'd appreciate any thoughts. Many thanks Brian ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Brian If you go to the property area. Open the facts tab then add fact you will see listed 'adoption' add that Victor On 24/01/2012 4:38 PM, Brian Horridge wrote: > Can I ask how others record an adopted son. > > I have one with a family on the 1901 census where he is recorded with a different surname. Initially, I linked him to the man by creating another un-named spouse and the child is a descendant of that 2nd "relationship". > > However, it looks odd on a descendants chart but then it could easily be misleading if I include him as a direct member of the main family group. > > I suppose I could create an "Adopted" flag and then use that to modify any diagrams (either with an Icon or text line). > > Anyway, I'd appreciate any thoughts. > > Many thanks > > Brian > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Can I ask how others record an adopted son. I have one with a family on the 1901 census where he is recorded with a different surname. Initially, I linked him to the man by creating another un-named spouse and the child is a descendant of that 2nd "relationship". However, it looks odd on a descendants chart but then it could easily be misleading if I include him as a direct member of the main family group. I suppose I could create an "Adopted" flag and then use that to modify any diagrams (either with an Icon or text line). Anyway, I'd appreciate any thoughts. Many thanks Brian

Message: 2 Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 11:24:36 -0000 From: "Beryl & Mike Tate" <post@tatewise.co.uk> Subject: Re: [FHU] Recording partnerships that are not marriages To: <family-historian-users@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <000801ccd9c1$97112320$c5336960$@co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Narrative Reports are better, because if there is no 'Marriage' then it is not mentioned. You can improve the Summary Report a little by changing the 'Marriage' heading to 'Partnership' or whatever you like. Use the Report Options > Format tab > Heading > Marriage > Edit > Heading Text: Partnership > OK > OK Save this Report as a Custom Report Type for future use with unmarried couples. I cannot find a way of changing 'Spouse' though. My thesaurus defines Spouse as Husband / Wife / Partner. In this section the marriage/partnership 'Status' such as 'Unmarried Couple' is shown. Hope that helps. Regards, Mike Tate Many thanks Mike I will try that approach * * *James Pam*

Hi. This is probably a simple question to which I don’t know the answer. When bringing up a standard descendant diagram on to the screen, I have a particular couple who has eight children. They all appear in birth-date order, oldest to youngest, left to right, bar one. The child who was third born always shows at the right-hand end or where the youngest should be. Can anyone tell me please, what is the likely reason? All dates are correct and this is the only instance. Cheers, Keith Tempest.

Keith The fastest way is to go to Tools and re-order out of sequence data. Otherwise go to that family and check that you've got the children entered in the correct order and manually move the one you haven't Shelagh -----Original Message----- From: family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of John Tempest Sent: 24 January 2012 00:18 To: FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS@rootsweb.com Subject: [FHU] Order in diagram Hi. This is probably a simple question to which I don’t know the answer. When bringing up a standard descendant diagram on to the screen, I have a particular couple who has eight children. They all appear in birth-date order, oldest to youngest, left to right, bar one. The child who was third born always shows at the right-hand end or where the youngest should be. Can anyone tell me please, what is the likely reason? All dates are correct and this is the only instance. Cheers, Keith Tempest. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Have you use Tools > Re-order Out-of-Sequence Data ? It is caused by the order the children were entered, probably the third born was entered last. FH does not automatically re-order the data, except in the Property Box Facts tab view, but even then it does not change the database. Regards, Mike Tate -----Original Message----- From: family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of John Tempest Sent: 24 January 2012 00:18 To: FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS@rootsweb.com Subject: [FHU] Order in diagram Hi. This is probably a simple question to which I don’t know the answer. When bringing up a standard descendant diagram on to the screen, I have a particular couple who has eight children. They all appear in birth-date order, oldest to youngest, left to right, bar one. The child who was third born always shows at the right-hand end or where the youngest should be. Can anyone tell me please, what is the likely reason? All dates are correct and this is the only instance. Cheers, Keith Tempest.

Narrative Reports are better, because if there is no 'Marriage' then it is not mentioned. You can improve the Summary Report a little by changing the 'Marriage' heading to 'Partnership' or whatever you like. Use the Report Options > Format tab > Heading > Marriage > Edit > Heading Text: Partnership > OK > OK Save this Report as a Custom Report Type for future use with unmarried couples. I cannot find a way of changing 'Spouse' though. My thesaurus defines Spouse as Husband / Wife / Partner. In this section the marriage/partnership 'Status' such as 'Unmarried Couple' is shown. Hope that helps. Regards, Mike Tate -----Original Message----- From: family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of James Pam Sent: 23 January 2012 10:52 To: FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS@rootsweb.com Subject: [FHU] Recording partnerships that are not marriages -----Original Message----- From: family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of James Pam Sent: 22 January 2012 19:13 To: FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS@rootsweb.com Subject: [FHU] Recording Same Sex Relationships / Civil Partnerships Has anyone advice on how to record same sex relationships and/or civil partnerships. My only workaround is to select *unmarried couple *in the property box. I looked at the wish list and was surprised that a wish list item - *support for single sex / gender relationships *first posted in 2006 was last voted on in 2009. Surely I am not alone in being puzzled over why we cannot accurately record same sex relationships. Is the problem that the gedcom [Church of LDS] still does not recognise such relationships? * * ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 00:04:06 -0000 From: "Beryl & Mike Tate" <post@tatewise.co.uk> Subject: Re: [FHU] Recording Same Sex Relationships / Civil Partnerships To: <family-historian-users@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <000901ccd962$86691dc0$933b5940$@co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Yes, if using FH V4 ensure that the Sex of both partners is the same. Then either use the 'Marriage' Event to represent Civil Partnership or create your own Custom 'Civil Partnership' Event. I am not clear how selecting *unmarried couple* provides a workaround. Regards, Mike Tate Thanks Mike and ColeValleyGirl. Yes I have ensured that both partners are of the same gender and I have V4. The couple are not in a civil partnership but when I produce an individual summary report there is reference to them being married and I cannot work out how to rectify this. I have created a partnership event on Mike's advice which shows up on the report but it still insists on calling the partner a 'spouse' and the couple in a marriage. Actually this is not an issue about single sex relationships but about how FH describes couples who are not married. Is there a way of producing reports that accurately record a partnership rather than a marriage? * * * * *James Pam* ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message