Thank you Jane and Adrian for your replies. I have decided that for now I will use a simple 'Military Service' fact and add additional single line Notes as required to cover additional information such as Regiment, Rank, Service Number, theatre of war and medals awarded. Clive Spratt

Thank you for the link, from which is it obvious that the news of the delay is from a reliable source as they virtually paraphrase Simon. Unfortunately your message read as more of anger than disappointment. A simple 'Now it is February, I had been eagerly anticipating the imminent release of v.5 so I was very disappointed to read in this morning's My History newsletter of a delay' would have been sufficient. Whilst giving the link at the time would have put everyone fully in the picture. Pam On 05/02/2012 13:30, Roger Mitchell wrote: > This is not an issue about being 'politer', it's an issue of being disappointed. Here is a link to the newsletter, read it for yourself.......... > http://www.my-history.co.uk/emails/MH_FH_Courses_Prom_Feb_12w.html > > Roger > > -----Original Message----- > From: family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Pam Downes > Sent: 05 February 2012 13:20 > To: family-historian-users@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [FHU] V5? When? > > It might be more relevant (to say nothing of being politer) to ask how much truth there is in the comment in the My History newsletter. (I've haven't seen it, so don't know exactly what it says.) > > And even a non-techie like me knows that everything can be going swimmingly until a serious bug is found almost at the last minute. Simon won't release v.5 until he's happy that it's as bug-free as the beta-testers have found it can be. > > Pam > > > > On 05/02/2012 12:54, Roger Mitchell wrote: >> After all the hype about a February release of version 5, I am extremely disappointed to see that we now have to wait "not too many months", according to the My History newsletter of today!! >> >> C'mon guys, we've all been wound up like a spring for this, and now we don't even have an estimated release date???? >> >> Best regards >> >> Roger Mitchell >> rdm@mfo.me.uk<mailto:rdm@mfo.me.uk> >> http://mfo.me.uk<http://mfo.me.uk/> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> > > -------------------------------

I rarely comment on the list, but feel that as an IT professional I think that I should on this occasion as Pam is absolutely correct in what she says. Any delay in a software release is unwelcome to users and developers alike. However, it is absolutely the correct thing if testing is incomplete or has revealed a serious bug. Whatever the pressure, it is bad practice to issue a product that still contains known bugs. In addition, whilst a delay is unfortunate, it is preferable to possibly compromising the integrity of data. Previous releases have also been delayed by a few months and when they have been released have proved to be stable and reliable. Lesley -----Original Message----- From: family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Roger Mitchell Sent: 05 February 2012 13:30 To: family-historian-users@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FHU] V5? When? This is not an issue about being 'politer', it's an issue of being disappointed. Here is a link to the newsletter, read it for yourself.......... http://www.my-history.co.uk/emails/MH_FH_Courses_Prom_Feb_12w.html Roger -----Original Message----- From: family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Pam Downes Sent: 05 February 2012 13:20 To: family-historian-users@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FHU] V5? When? It might be more relevant (to say nothing of being politer) to ask how much truth there is in the comment in the My History newsletter. (I've haven't seen it, so don't know exactly what it says.) And even a non-techie like me knows that everything can be going swimmingly until a serious bug is found almost at the last minute. Simon won't release v.5 until he's happy that it's as bug-free as the beta-testers have found it can be. Pam On 05/02/2012 12:54, Roger Mitchell wrote: > After all the hype about a February release of version 5, I am extremely disappointed to see that we now have to wait "not too many months", according to the My History newsletter of today!! > > C'mon guys, we've all been wound up like a spring for this, and now we don't even have an estimated release date???? > > Best regards > > Roger Mitchell > rdm@mfo.me.uk<mailto:rdm@mfo.me.uk> > http://mfo.me.uk<http://mfo.me.uk/> > > > ------------------------------- > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Well said Pam! On 5 Feb 2012, at 13:19, Pam Downes wrote: > It might be more relevant (to say nothing of being politer) to ask how > much truth there is in the comment in the My History newsletter. (I've > haven't seen it, so don't know exactly what it says.) > > And even a non-techie like me knows that everything can be going > swimmingly until a serious bug is found almost at the last minute. Simon > won't release v.5 until he's happy that it's as bug-free as the > beta-testers have found it can be. > > Pam > > > > On 05/02/2012 12:54, Roger Mitchell wrote: >> After all the hype about a February release of version 5, I am extremely disappointed to see that we now have to wait "not too many months", according to the My History newsletter of today!! >> >> C'mon guys, we've all been wound up like a spring for this, and now we don't even have an estimated release date???? >> >> Best regards >> >> Roger Mitchell >> rdm@mfo.me.uk<mailto:rdm@mfo.me.uk> >> http://mfo.me.uk<http://mfo.me.uk/> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is not an issue about being 'politer', it's an issue of being disappointed. Here is a link to the newsletter, read it for yourself.......... http://www.my-history.co.uk/emails/MH_FH_Courses_Prom_Feb_12w.html Roger -----Original Message----- From: family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Pam Downes Sent: 05 February 2012 13:20 To: family-historian-users@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FHU] V5? When? It might be more relevant (to say nothing of being politer) to ask how much truth there is in the comment in the My History newsletter. (I've haven't seen it, so don't know exactly what it says.) And even a non-techie like me knows that everything can be going swimmingly until a serious bug is found almost at the last minute. Simon won't release v.5 until he's happy that it's as bug-free as the beta-testers have found it can be. Pam On 05/02/2012 12:54, Roger Mitchell wrote: > After all the hype about a February release of version 5, I am extremely disappointed to see that we now have to wait "not too many months", according to the My History newsletter of today!! > > C'mon guys, we've all been wound up like a spring for this, and now we don't even have an estimated release date???? > > Best regards > > Roger Mitchell > rdm@mfo.me.uk<mailto:rdm@mfo.me.uk> > http://mfo.me.uk<http://mfo.me.uk/> > > > ------------------------------- > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

It might be more relevant (to say nothing of being politer) to ask how much truth there is in the comment in the My History newsletter. (I've haven't seen it, so don't know exactly what it says.) And even a non-techie like me knows that everything can be going swimmingly until a serious bug is found almost at the last minute. Simon won't release v.5 until he's happy that it's as bug-free as the beta-testers have found it can be. Pam On 05/02/2012 12:54, Roger Mitchell wrote: > After all the hype about a February release of version 5, I am extremely disappointed to see that we now have to wait "not too many months", according to the My History newsletter of today!! > > C'mon guys, we've all been wound up like a spring for this, and now we don't even have an estimated release date???? > > Best regards > > Roger Mitchell > rdm@mfo.me.uk<mailto:rdm@mfo.me.uk> > http://mfo.me.uk<http://mfo.me.uk/> > > > ------------------------------- >

After all the hype about a February release of version 5, I am extremely disappointed to see that we now have to wait "not too many months", according to the My History newsletter of today!! C'mon guys, we've all been wound up like a spring for this, and now we don't even have an estimated release date???? Best regards Roger Mitchell rdm@mfo.me.uk<mailto:rdm@mfo.me.uk> http://mfo.me.uk<http://mfo.me.uk/>

Thanks Mike and John - this is good news. I had seen the "what's new" list but missed the significance of the plugin mapping tool. Looking forward to the new release. Kath On 04/02/2012 10:50, Beryl & Mike Tate wrote: > Kath, > On the Family Historian web site under What's New in Version 5 > at http://www.family-historian.co.uk/features/whats-new/whats-new-in-5 it says: > > "Integrated access to a new Plugin Store, with numerous free plugins adding even more features - such as a new mapping tool - and > more being added all the time" > > Just to whet your appetite, the free plugin mapping tool does offer Google Maps Geocoding of any of your GEDCOM Place&/or Address > fields, or any other location. > > Regards, Mike Tate > > -----Original Message----- > From: family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Kath Liddell > Sent: 04 February 2012 09:51 > To: family-historian-users@rootsweb.com > Subject: [FHU] Geocoding > > Looking ahead ... is there any plan to include place geocoding in the soon-to-be-released version 5 of Family Historian? > > Kath > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Kath, On the Family Historian web site under What's New in Version 5 at http://www.family-historian.co.uk/features/whats-new/whats-new-in-5 it says: "Integrated access to a new Plugin Store, with numerous free plugins adding even more features - such as a new mapping tool - and more being added all the time" Just to whet your appetite, the free plugin mapping tool does offer Google Maps Geocoding of any of your GEDCOM Place &/or Address fields, or any other location. Regards, Mike Tate -----Original Message----- From: family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Kath Liddell Sent: 04 February 2012 09:51 To: family-historian-users@rootsweb.com Subject: [FHU] Geocoding Looking ahead ... is there any plan to include place geocoding in the soon-to-be-released version 5 of Family Historian? Kath ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Kath, the FH website says V5 includes: [...] - support for plug-ins ... - Integrated access to a new plug-ins store [including] a new mapping tool ..." [...] So my interpretation is yes, albeit via a plug-in rather than natively. But welcome nonetheless. Presumably there could eventually be a range of different mapping/geocoding plug-ins to choose from, if folks decide to write them. See <http://www.family-historian.co.uk/features/whats-new/whats-new-in-5> http://www.family-historian.co.uk/features/whats-new/whats-new-in-5 for more. John _____ From: family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Kath Liddell Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 9:51 AM To: family-historian-users@rootsweb.com Subject: [FHU] Geocoding Looking ahead ... is there any plan to include place geocoding in the soon-to-be-released version 5 of Family Historian? Kath ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _____ avast! <http://www.avast.com> Antivirus: Inbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 04/02/2012 Tested on: 04/02/2012 10:29:43 avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2012 AVAST Software. _____ avast! Antivirus <http://www.avast.com> : Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 04/02/2012 Tested on: 04/02/2012 10:42:58 avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2012 AVAST Software.

Looking ahead ... is there any plan to include place geocoding in the soon-to-be-released version 5 of Family Historian? Kath

Thanks Jane and Shelagh for your suggestions. I am in this instance wanting a fairly brief chart with only basic information for a few people, so I'll see which of your options works best. Thanks again. Susie

<<snipped>> I have added an attribute/fact called Military Service and would like to have a sub-set for information such as; Service (RAF, Navy, Royal Marines or Army) Unit (Regiment, etc.) Awards (Medals, etc.) Where served, etc And so on, rather than a long list of Military facts as per <<snipped>> I ignored the initial download as it seemed to encode every attribute off an attestation form - like you, I felt that, for _me_, this was overkill. For what it's worth, I seem to use the following 5 custom events / attributes: Awarded (attribute) - value is list of gallantry medals awarded; Court Martial (event) Issued with (attribute) - value is list of campaign medals issued; Military Service (attribute) - value is name of unit down to as close a detail as I have, e.g. "10th Battalion, Cheshire Regiment"; Wounded (event) These attributes and events appear in multiple versions - e.g. if someone serves in 3 different battalions, I have 3 Military Service attributes. The Note attached to the Military Service attribute is then used to provide a narrative for that time interval. I discarded the idea of a separate attribute for rank as the narrative report would then describe all someone's service in a battalion, possibly up to demob, before - eventually - coming to the rank attribute and mentioning that during his service in the battalion, he was promoted. Instead, for me, it's just part of the narrative at the appropriate time (but therefore more difficult to find in a query). This seemed a reasonably small set of data. You could omit the "wounded" event and just record it in the narrative note but it is then more difficult to find using a query. I confess I don't use =getlabelledtext() - if I did, I might adjust these ideas. In any case, you need to think through carefully how you would handle multiple units, medals, etc. Adrian B

On 2 February 2012 17:28, Clive Spratt <clivespratt@btinternet.com> wrote: > Is there a way of adding additional fields to the drop-down list for > Attributes/Events? No, but you can add a default note template to the Fact and then use the =getlabelledtext() function to extract the information for use on diagrams or in queries. -- Jane. Jane Taubman | www.rjt.org.uk | www.taubman.org.uk |www.fhug.org.uk

Is there a way of adding additional fields to the drop-down list for Attributes/Events? I have added an attribute/fact called Military Service and would like to have a sub-set for information such as; Service (RAF, Navy, Royal Marines or Army) Unit (Regiment, etc.) Awards (Medals, etc.) Where served, etc And so on, rather than a long list of Military facts as per Military1.fhf, Military2.fhf or Military_(DS).fhf available from the FHUG Website? Clive Spratt

Custom Facts like this are imported by FH OK, but it does not automatically create a Custom Fact definition. In order to create a Fact with a value you must create a Custom Attribute in the Work with Fact Sets tool. There you will also be able to define the Sentence Template. Regards, Mike Tate -----Original Message----- From: family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Robert Warnock Sent: 02 February 2012 15:05 To: family-historian-users@rootsweb.com Subject: [FHU] Fact does not show in Add Fact In the database I imported from Genbox I have a Fact labelled Estate in which I have recorded the place of Confirmation (the Scottish eqivalent of Probate) and the year from the Calendar of Confirmations, and the value of the Estate, together with the Source and the actual text from the Source. In FH this appears as a Fact in which the value appears in a field labelled Estate and in the All column I also get Estate with the value given, also Date, Place and Sentence which I have modified to " Individual's}{label} was {value} as confirmed {date}{place} " which works perfectly for all those imported. However when I want to add similar information for people who did not have it originally imported I find that the Fact Estate does not appear in Add Fact nor is it in Work with Fact Sets. If I try as an experiment to add a new Fact to Work with Fact Sets there is no opportunity to add the Value as before.Can anyone tell me where my Estate Fact has gone and how can I get it back to be able to use it for new entries? Sorry if this only shows my inexperience with FH. Thank you Bob Warnock ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

In the database I imported from Genbox I have a Fact labelled Estate in which I have recorded the place of Confirmation (the Scottish eqivalent of Probate) and the year from the Calendar of Confirmations, and the value of the Estate, together with the Source and the actual text from the Source. In FH this appears as a Fact in which the value appears in a field labelled Estate and in the All column I also get Estate with the value given, also Date, Place and Sentence which I have modified to " Individual's}{label} was {value} as confirmed {date}{place} " which works perfectly for all those imported. However when I want to add similar information for people who did not have it originally imported I find that the Fact Estate does not appear in Add Fact nor is it in Work with Fact Sets. If I try as an experiment to add a new Fact to Work with Fact Sets there is no opportunity to add the Value as before.Can anyone tell me where my Estate Fact has gone and how can I get it back to be able to use it for new entries? Sorry if this only shows my inexperience with FH. Thank you Bob Warnock

<<snipped>> from 1731 to 1746 they are available at http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/chs/CheshirePoorLaw.pdf for free. <<snipped>> Anne - I picked up on that file some time ago, when you first loaded it. That was an excellent job, by the way. It saved me with one of the Pickstock families as both PR and BT were virtually illegible for one of their births - the children listed in the Poor Law document solved what is was supposed to be. Adrian B

I am trying to create a descendant chart with only some of the spouses showing, so to do this I have hidden those spouse boxes I do not require. However in one case there is a female direct descendant who had two husbands with one child from each marriage. I would like to show both of these children as they are the direct descendants, but when I hide their respective fathers' boxes, the children disappear. I have used the option of each spouse in own box. I notice that if I use the option of no spouse information, then then both children are shown with the mother. However that option removes all the spouse information from the rest of the diagram. Is there any way I would be able to work around this and show these two children? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Susie

I have tried to replicate this, however I found that in the case of two husbands / partners of a woman only the family of the first partner hidden disappears. Meaning if I hide partner number two first his descendants disappear, and when hiding partner one his descendants remain, and vice versa. I would suggest that if you are only hiding some spouse information anyway, that you keep both of them in this particular instance. If you are hiding spouses to keep the chart tidy why not go for one box per marriage / partnership? Shelagh -----Original Message----- From: family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Susie Wilson-Brown Sent: 01 February 2012 07:42 To: family historian users Subject: [FHU] Showing children in diagram I am trying to create a descendant chart with only some of the spouses showing, so to do this I have hidden those spouse boxes I do not require. However in one case there is a female direct descendant who had two husbands with one child from each marriage. I would like to show both of these children as they are the direct descendants, but when I hide their respective fathers' boxes, the children disappear. I have used the option of each spouse in own box. I notice that if I use the option of no spouse information, then then both children are shown with the mother. However that option removes all the spouse information from the rest of the diagram. Is there any way I would be able to work around this and show these two children? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Susie ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message