On 26 February 2012 21:46, John Liddle <jaliddle@btinternet.com> wrote: > Is there any way of changing the way an approximate date is shown in a > diagram box? The short date formats always use ?, but if you move to the :COMPACT form it will put (calc) or (approx) after dates which are approximate. To do this clone the text scheme you are using and change the dates to use the :COMPACT qualifier. -- Jane. Jane Taubman | www.rjt.org.uk | www.taubman.org.uk |www.fhug.org.uk

On 26 February 2012 18:54, Walter Burton <walter.burton@gmail.com> wrote: > *1.* If I want to install FH on a base machine, and a laptop for personal > use You can use a Memory Stick, and just copy the whole Project folder over, though you might find it easier and more convenient to use Dropbox or another sync program to keep the folders the same. I would not recommend keeping the project only on the memory stick as that means you only have one copy of your data. http://www.fhug.org.uk/wiki/doku.php?id=glossary:other_nonfh_software:sync > *2.* Different projects on different machines ( and different FH !! ) Using a sync software would help here as well. However although the core (gedcom) files have not changed some of the extra files (such as chart formats) have changed for V5 and are not backwards compatible. You will not be able to have V4 and V5 both installed on a single computer as V5 will detect and upgrade your V4 installation. -- Jane. Jane Taubman | www.rjt.org.uk | www.taubman.org.uk |www.fhug.org.uk

Is there any way of changing the way an approximate date is shown in a diagram box? I really dislike the use of a "?" after a date e.g. "1959?" when what is really required is "c. 1959". I have footled about with diagram settings, but cannot find a way of doing this. Can anyone suggest a solution? Regards, John Liddle Backwell, North Somerset - "Where the cider apples grow"

Multiple installations. two questions *1.* If I want to install FH on a base machine, and a laptop for personal use, it might be possible to use a memory stick, so the data would be up-to-date for whichever machine is in use. Which parts of the project need to be copied to the memory stick? *2.* Different projects on different machines ( and different FH !! ) I have another boxed FH4, which I'd like to pass to her, and then transfer her tree to her machine (notebook). BUT, in March, will I be able to install and run a *full FH5* on my machine, while keeping my copy of FH4 on my machine to maintain her tree(FH4)? Any recommendations about keeping her and my versions synced? Easy questions today! Thanks Walter Burton On 26 February 2012 08:01, <family-historian-users-request@rootsweb.com>wrote: > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. ... > 2. Installing FH on another Computer (Marlene James) > 3. Re: Installing FH on another Computer (MARGARET LAWRENCE) > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 17:15:53 +0000 > From: Marlene James <marlenejames119@hotmail.co.uk> > Subject: [FHU] Installing FH on another Computer > To: <family-historian-users@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <SNT134-W19D9A5442056C246AC735DA76B0@phx.gbl> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > Hi List, > > I've recently bought a Samsung Notebook (easier to take to Record Offices) > and wondered if it's possible to install my Family Historian 4.1.3 while > keeping the program on my main computer as well. > I can't find anything on the knowledge base about being able to use it on > two computers, but it's quite possible I've missed it! > > Regards > > Marlene > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 17:28:10 +0000 (GMT) > From: MARGARET LAWRENCE <meltcl@btinternet.com> > Subject: Re: [FHU] Installing FH on another Computer > To: family-historian-users@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <1330190890.12849.YahooMailNeo@web87214.mail.ird.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > As long it is for your personal use and they are not being used at the > same time you can have FH on two computers. I expect that there is a > thread about this over on FHUG (www.fhug.org.uk). > > Hope that this helps. > > Margaret > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS list administrator, send an email to > FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS mailing list, send an > email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS Digest, Vol 7, Issue 65 > ***************************************************** >

Over the last couple of days I've seen 'out of memory' and 'low on memory' messages when using diagrams on FH. A few images are replaced with crosses even though the file paths are correct. When I 'View All Media' some 12 or so images out of a total 375 images seem unable to load. When I try to enlarge some individual images the memory warnings appear! Other images seem to enlarge without warning messages.The program has also lately started to run slowly. I have masses of hard disc memory left of the 6 GB available RAM space, I have a 64 bit operating system and am using Windows 7. I have FH version 4.1. I am also sure that my FH data is tiny compared to other FH users. I presume its a processing problem with my computer rather than an issue with FH. However it is only when I am using FH that I am aware of this memory problem. I have looked at the saved images and none seems too huge - in fact total images take up 241MB. Largest image is 6MB alone. There does not seem to be any link with the file type. Some jpgs are not displaying but most of them are. I have switched off my antivirus and operated FH but I am still seeing crossed images and memory messages such as "unable to load object. Out of memory." I've looked at Windows task manager and during creation of an 'everyone' diagram, FH is using 2GB physical memory. Total usage of all processes is 3GB. Stuck!! Any ideas please. Stewart

On 26 February 2012 13:50, Paddy Buckley <paddy.buckley@lineone.net> wrote: > I've heard of plugins but have not knowingly used them. Where and how shall > I find them once I get my FH V5? All will become clear, when you have access to 5, they are new to 5 and will allow many user written extras to be shared and used. -- Jane. Jane Taubman | www.rjt.org.uk | www.taubman.org.uk |www.fhug.org.uk

I've heard of plugins but have not knowingly used them. Where and how shall I find them once I get my FH V5? Paddy Buckley ex Generations ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jane Taubman" <janetaubman@gmail.com> To: <family-historian-users@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 9:22 AM Subject: Re: [FHU] Notes On 25 February 2012 15:40, Paddy Buckley <paddy.buckley@lineone.net> wrote: > Over the years I have not been very consistent in choosing the right > option in the Add Note selection box. Is there an easy way of changing, > for example, a Note Record with a link to a Local Note? Not easily in V4, but V5 allows plugins and I think you will find a plugin which will automatically convert any note records with only a single link to a local note. People who came from Generations often have this issue as Generations stored all notes as note records.

...as does anyone who has imported a gedcom from a Rootsweb tree, so this is excellent news BrianG On 26/02/2012 09:22, Jane Taubman wrote: > On 25 February 2012 15:40, Paddy Buckley<paddy.buckley@lineone.net> wrote: >> Over the years I have not been very consistent in choosing the right option in the Add Note selection box. Is there an easy way of changing, for example, a Note Record with a link to a Local Note? > Not easily in V4, but V5 allows plugins and I think you will find a > plugin which will automatically convert any note records with only a > single link to a local note. People who came from Generations often > have this issue as Generations stored all notes as note records. > >

On 25 February 2012 15:40, Paddy Buckley <paddy.buckley@lineone.net> wrote: > Over the years I have not been very consistent in choosing the right option in the Add Note selection box.  Is there an  easy way of changing, for example, a Note Record with a link to a Local Note? Not easily in V4, but V5 allows plugins and I think you will find a plugin which will automatically convert any note records with only a single link to a local note. People who came from Generations often have this issue as Generations stored all notes as note records. -- Jane. Jane Taubman | www.rjt.org.uk | www.taubman.org.uk |www.fhug.org.uk

As long it is for your personal use and they are not being used at the same time you can have FH on two computers. I expect that there is a thread about this over on FHUG (www.fhug.org.uk). Hope that this helps. Margaret >________________________________ >From: Marlene James <marlenejames119@hotmail.co.uk> >To: family-historian-users@rootsweb.com >Sent: Saturday, 25 February 2012, 17:15 >Subject: [FHU] Installing FH on another Computer > > >Hi List, > >I've recently bought a Samsung Notebook (easier to take to Record Offices) >and wondered if it's possible to install my Family Historian 4.1.3 while keeping the program on my main computer as well. >I can't find anything on the knowledge base about being able to use it on two computers, but it's quite possible I've missed it! > >Regards > >Marlene >                        > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Hi List, I've recently bought a Samsung Notebook (easier to take to Record Offices) and wondered if it's possible to install my Family Historian 4.1.3 while keeping the program on my main computer as well. I can't find anything on the knowledge base about being able to use it on two computers, but it's quite possible I've missed it! Regards Marlene

Over the years I have not been very consistent in choosing the right option in the Add Note selection box. Is there an easy way of changing, for example, a Note Record with a link to a Local Note? Paddy Buckley

Hi all I have a lot of duplicate place names. Typically I have Eastbourne, Sussex and Eastbourne Reg Dist. If I have a GRO reference first then I use Eastbourne Reg Dist for the place of birth. If I need to know where Eastbourne is I look in my Repository which will tell me it is in Sussex. Once I know the physical place where they were born i.e. Seaford, East Sussex then I replace the original Reg Dist with this one. I now have two bits of information, the GRO reference with the Reg Dist in my citation and the actual birth place in my Place. David -----Original Message----- From: family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of John James Sent: 24 February 2012 07:00 To: family-historian-users@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FHU] Which County? I simply use the Registration District Name followed by '[RD]' - so Alan's example (where I grew up as a kid, as it happens, well Great Cornard, just outside) would be 'Sudbury [RD]' whereas a certificated event would be at 'Sudbury, Suffolk, England' - together with the Quarter Date and the Index Reference. I also add the Individual to a 'To Do' List in FH for 'Certificates Required' with a Note detailing the Index details. Thus far I have not found the need to include any County name in RD entries, but no doubt those more experienced will be able to give examples of duplicate RD names that do require this additional qualification. HTH John _____ From: family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Alan E. White Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 9:16 PM To: family-historian-users@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FHU] Which County? Sorry, I didn't make myself clear. If all the information I have is the registration district (e.g. because I've identified the right event in the index but haven't yet obtained the certificate) then I use the district as it is. The question was "Which County?". Most districts are in only one county so I use that. Blything and Wangford are both entirely in Suffolk so they become Blything, Suffolk, England Wangford, Suffolk, England The example I gave, Sudbury, covers places in Suffolk and Essex. However, the town of Sudbury is in Suffolk so that becomes Sudbury, Suffolk, England I hope that makes things clearer, but it's still just "my" way of doing things :-) Alan > -----Original Message----- > From: family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of Julian Chilvers - CN > Sent: 23 February 2012 16:49 > To: family-historian-users@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [FHU] Which County? > > > What do you do for GRO registration districts that are not > named after towns > (e.g. Blything) or districts that do not include the town > they are "named > after" (e.g. Wangford). > > Julian > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Alan E. White" <family.historian@aewhite.me.uk> > To: <family-historian-users@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 12:16 PM > Subject: Re: [FHU] Which County? > > > > I do use if that's all the > > information I have (where they span counties, such as Sudbury, I > > arbitrarily > > use the county of the town which the district is named after). > > > > Alan > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _____ avast! <http://www.avast.com> Antivirus: Inbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 23/02/2012 Tested on: 24/02/2012 06:35:54 avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2012 AVAST Software. _____ avast! Antivirus <http://www.avast.com> : Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 23/02/2012 Tested on: 24/02/2012 07:00:00 avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2012 AVAST Software. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2114/4827 - Release Date: 02/23/12

<<Just shows that there's no perfect solution. However, I wouldn't wish to have things like Wangford [RD], Suffolk, England and Wangford, Suffolk, England because of the apparent duplication and because the first isn't a place.>> This is very true, however if you aren't 100% sure that the event actually did take place in Wangford and not Weston, Willingham or Worlingham there is a very valid reason for using Wangford [RD] until the true place of the event can be ascertained. I use Prescot [RD] until I know exactly where the event took place as two families lived in Huyton, Whiston and Prescot and moved round those places quite happily, but there is a world of difference between them.

> I used > that example > because the village of Wangford happens to be in the Blything > Registration > District and not in the Wangford Registration District. :-) Just shows that there's no perfect solution. However, I wouldn't wish to have things like Wangford [RD], Suffolk, England and Wangford, Suffolk, England because of the apparent duplication and because the first isn't a place. But each to their own. The question was "What do others do?" in the context of "Which County?" so I explained what I did.

I understand your approach - many others use the same method. I just think it is potentially confusing if you don't specify (e.g.by adding RD) that you are quoting a Registration District and not a place. I used that example because the village of Wangford happens to be in the Blything Registration District and not in the Wangford Registration District. Julian > Sorry, I didn't make myself clear. If all the information I have is the > registration district (e.g. because I've identified the right event in the > index but haven't yet obtained the certificate) then I use the district as > it is. > > The question was "Which County?". Most districts are in only one county so > I > use that. Blything and Wangford are both entirely in Suffolk so they > become > Blything, Suffolk, England > Wangford, Suffolk, England > > The example I gave, Sudbury, covers places in Suffolk and Essex. However, > the town of Sudbury is in Suffolk so that becomes > Sudbury, Suffolk, England > > I hope that makes things clearer, but it's still just "my" way of doing > things :-) > > Alan

John Like you I haven't found the need to include the county name in RD entries. I only include the GRO Reference if I haven't got the certificate. If I have the persons birth place (e.g. from census) that itself will tell me where the person was born. The GRO reference is there purely for evidence confirming the person. One can click the GRO reference name and that shows a list of places the area covers which would confirm the birth place shown on the census. If it doesn't then either the census details or the GRO reference is not for the right person. Victor On 24/02/2012 7:00 AM, John James wrote: > I simply use the Registration District Name followed by '[RD]' - so Alan's example (where I grew up as a kid, as it happens, well > Great Cornard, just outside) would be 'Sudbury [RD]' whereas a certificated event would be at 'Sudbury, Suffolk, England' - together > with the Quarter Date and the Index Reference. I also add the Individual to a 'To Do' List in FH for 'Certificates Required' with a > Note detailing the Index details. > > Thus far I have not found the need to include any County name in RD entries, but no doubt those more experienced will be able to > give examples of duplicate RD names that do require this additional qualification. > > HTH > > John > > _____ > > From: family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Alan E. White > Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 9:16 PM > To: family-historian-users@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [FHU] Which County? > > > > > Sorry, I didn't make myself clear. If all the information I have is the > registration district (e.g. because I've identified the right event in the > index but haven't yet obtained the certificate) then I use the district as > it is. > > The question was "Which County?". Most districts are in only one county so I > use that. Blything and Wangford are both entirely in Suffolk so they become > Blything, Suffolk, England > Wangford, Suffolk, England > > The example I gave, Sudbury, covers places in Suffolk and Essex. However, > the town of Sudbury is in Suffolk so that becomes > Sudbury, Suffolk, England > > I hope that makes things clearer, but it's still just "my" way of doing > things :-) > > Alan > > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On >> Behalf Of Julian Chilvers - CN >> Sent: 23 February 2012 16:49 >> To: family-historian-users@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [FHU] Which County? >> >> >> What do you do for GRO registration districts that are not >> named after towns >> (e.g. Blything) or districts that do not include the town >> they are "named >> after" (e.g. Wangford). >> >> Julian >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Alan E. White"<family.historian@aewhite.me.uk> >> To:<family-historian-users@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 12:16 PM >> Subject: Re: [FHU] Which County? >> >> >>> I do use if that's all the >>> information I have (where they span counties, such as Sudbury, I >>> arbitrarily >>> use the county of the town which the district is named after). >>> >>> Alan >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word >> 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body >> of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > _____ > > avast!<http://www.avast.com> Antivirus: Inbound message clean. > > > Virus Database (VPS): 23/02/2012 > Tested on: 24/02/2012 06:35:54 > avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2012 AVAST Software. > > > > > _____ > > avast! Antivirus<http://www.avast.com> : Outbound message clean. > > > Virus Database (VPS): 23/02/2012 > Tested on: 24/02/2012 07:00:00 > avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2012 AVAST Software. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

> I simply use the Registration District Name followed by > '[RD]' - so Alan's example (where I grew up as a kid, as it > happens, well > Great Cornard, just outside) would be 'Sudbury [RD]' whereas > a certificated event would be at 'Sudbury, Suffolk, England' > - together That's what I used to do though without the [RD]. I decided to change because of the resulting duplication.

I simply use the Registration District Name followed by '[RD]' - so Alan's example (where I grew up as a kid, as it happens, well Great Cornard, just outside) would be 'Sudbury [RD]' whereas a certificated event would be at 'Sudbury, Suffolk, England' - together with the Quarter Date and the Index Reference. I also add the Individual to a 'To Do' List in FH for 'Certificates Required' with a Note detailing the Index details. Thus far I have not found the need to include any County name in RD entries, but no doubt those more experienced will be able to give examples of duplicate RD names that do require this additional qualification. HTH John _____ From: family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Alan E. White Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 9:16 PM To: family-historian-users@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FHU] Which County? Sorry, I didn't make myself clear. If all the information I have is the registration district (e.g. because I've identified the right event in the index but haven't yet obtained the certificate) then I use the district as it is. The question was "Which County?". Most districts are in only one county so I use that. Blything and Wangford are both entirely in Suffolk so they become Blything, Suffolk, England Wangford, Suffolk, England The example I gave, Sudbury, covers places in Suffolk and Essex. However, the town of Sudbury is in Suffolk so that becomes Sudbury, Suffolk, England I hope that makes things clearer, but it's still just "my" way of doing things :-) Alan > -----Original Message----- > From: family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of Julian Chilvers - CN > Sent: 23 February 2012 16:49 > To: family-historian-users@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [FHU] Which County? > > > What do you do for GRO registration districts that are not > named after towns > (e.g. Blything) or districts that do not include the town > they are "named > after" (e.g. Wangford). > > Julian > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Alan E. White" <family.historian@aewhite.me.uk> > To: <family-historian-users@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 12:16 PM > Subject: Re: [FHU] Which County? > > > > I do use if that's all the > > information I have (where they span counties, such as Sudbury, I > > arbitrarily > > use the county of the town which the district is named after). > > > > Alan > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _____ avast! <http://www.avast.com> Antivirus: Inbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 23/02/2012 Tested on: 24/02/2012 06:35:54 avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2012 AVAST Software. _____ avast! Antivirus <http://www.avast.com> : Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 23/02/2012 Tested on: 24/02/2012 07:00:00 avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2012 AVAST Software.

Sorry, I didn't make myself clear. If all the information I have is the registration district (e.g. because I've identified the right event in the index but haven't yet obtained the certificate) then I use the district as it is. The question was "Which County?". Most districts are in only one county so I use that. Blything and Wangford are both entirely in Suffolk so they become Blything, Suffolk, England Wangford, Suffolk, England The example I gave, Sudbury, covers places in Suffolk and Essex. However, the town of Sudbury is in Suffolk so that becomes Sudbury, Suffolk, England I hope that makes things clearer, but it's still just "my" way of doing things :-) Alan > -----Original Message----- > From: family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of Julian Chilvers - CN > Sent: 23 February 2012 16:49 > To: family-historian-users@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [FHU] Which County? > > > What do you do for GRO registration districts that are not > named after towns > (e.g. Blything) or districts that do not include the town > they are "named > after" (e.g. Wangford). > > Julian > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Alan E. White" <family.historian@aewhite.me.uk> > To: <family-historian-users@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 12:16 PM > Subject: Re: [FHU] Which County? > > > > I do use if that's all the > > information I have (where they span counties, such as Sudbury, I > > arbitrarily > > use the county of the town which the district is named after). > > > > Alan > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the message