I 2nd that! Havent upgraded to V5.... YET.... It seems like the only limit to what this programme will do is your imagination. Will never use another software package again. Thanks everyone. :) -----Original Message----- From: family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of JulieandMalcolm@kett.fsnet.co.uk Sent: 27 March 2012 13:49 To: Family Historian Subject: [FHU] FH version 5 Just to say – I never cease to be amazed at what this program can do after every upgrade! Loving it! A big well done and thank you to Simon, Jane, beta testers and everyone else involved. Many thanks Julie Hill ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Just to say – I never cease to be amazed at what this program can do after every upgrade! Loving it! A big well done and thank you to Simon, Jane, beta testers and everyone else involved. Many thanks Julie Hill
Hi Simon, My cousin and I share the family tree by emailing it back and fourth, currently we are both on the same version, I know she purchased a more upto date version sometime ago but yet to install. If we are not using the same version one being older than the other, and we then send the tree back and fourth via email. Will all remain compatiable the tree is fairly large, but not so large that it cannot still be sent by email. Cheryl
FH V5 has some new features that allow fields for each type of Fact to be enabled/disabled. It also adds validity checks that warn if a Fact Date is before Birth Date or after Death Date, etc, etc. The general wisdom is that the Burial Age is the same as Death Age and not needed. Similarly the Birth Age is greyed out because the only non-zero entry is 'Stillbirth'. If you need to change the settings, use Tools > Work with Fact Sets then select the Fact's Properties and change the options. Regards, Mike Tate -----Original Message----- From: family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Chris Wake Sent: 27 March 2012 09:36 To: FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [FHU] Age Field In Burial Fact In V5 Can anybody tell me why the Age field has disappeared when entering a Burial Fact in V5 please ? Looking at Burial facts entered before the upgrade the Age field is present. Thanks Chris ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Burial is an "after death" event and by default does not show the age, to turn on the field so you can enter it, go to the Tools>Work With Fact Sets and select Burial and tick the age field. V5 introduces the ability to control the fields shown on facts and the concept of where events belong, eg Burial is a "Post Death" event. On 27 March 2012 09:45, Lesley Lambourne <lesley.lambourne@talktalk.net> wrote: > I don't know for sure, but I suspect that it is because the age on burial > always = age on death. > I once asked what to do about someone who had a birthday between death and > burial, and it was pointed out that age doesn't increase after death. -- Jane. Jane Taubman | www.rjt.org.uk | www.taubman.org.uk |www.fhug.org.uk
I don't know for sure, but I suspect that it is because the age on burial always = age on death. I once asked what to do about someone who had a birthday between death and burial, and it was pointed out that age doesn't increase after death. Lesley -----Original Message----- From: family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Chris Wake Sent: 27 March 2012 09:36 To: FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [FHU] Age Field In Burial Fact In V5 Can anybody tell me why the Age field has disappeared when entering a Burial Fact in V5 please ? Looking at Burial facts entered before the upgrade the Age field is present. Thanks Chris ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Brilliant Lorna, thank you very much for the explanation, particularly about the book. Laraine -------------------------------------------------- From: "Lorna Craig" <l.m.craig@ntlworld.com> Sent: Monday, March 26, 2012 10:29 PM To: <family-historian-users@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [FHU] Family Historian Version 5 > > > On 26/03/2012 20:59, Laraine Hake wrote: >> So, if I read the flow diagram correctly............since I bought V4 at >> the >> end of August (just before the announcement of V5) so come into the >> "Install Full V4 with bought key" category and intended to buy V5 >> upgrade, >> it appears that I need the bought key in order to install V4 - V5. >> >> Sorry Mike. I am still unclear. It rather looks as if I will have to >> buy >> the whole thing again having bought V4 at the end of August 2011 - a very >> short time, it seemed, before the announcement of V5 appeared. > Hi Laraine, > As you already have V4 installed at the moment you will be able to > install the 'Upgrade' version of V5 without having your V4 CD or V4 > registration key. So in the short term there is no problem. But (as > Mike said) if you ever need to re-install FH on a new computer or after > a PC breakdown, you would need the V4 CD and registration key to install > V4 again before you could install the V5 upgrade. > >> One other answer I would appreciate please..........the HELP tab on V4 >> included access to an online version of the book "Getting the most from >> Family Historian 4" which has been tremendously useful. It appears >> that a >> similar book for V5 will cost £18.95. Have I read that correctly or is >> that >> just a hardback version > > Don't worry, that's just the cost of the printed version. There is > still an e-version of "Getting the Most from Family Historian 5". > > Lorna > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Buy the upgrade version download. The V4-V5 upgrade only needs its licence key and the V3-V4 licence key to successfully install. Simply copy the downloaded installation file from your PC to the laptop, and repeat the installation there. Regards, Mike Tate -----Original Message----- From: family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Victor Markham Sent: 26 March 2012 21:12 To: family-historian-users@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FHU] Family Historian Version 5 Simon I look forward to upgrading this. I do have the latest version 4. I am in two minds about whether to opt for the upgrade or change to the full version. I started in version 2.0 (I think) I am also in two minds whether to download this or buy the CD. I install this both on my desk top as well as my lap top. This has been allowed in the past so long as they are both for personal use. I presume this is still the case. If opt to I download the upgrade could I download it to the lap top as well? I have looked at the site provided by your hot link. For the CD one has to obtain this from retailers. The site said see list of retailers but there is no link to such a list. Victor On 26/03/2012 7:23 PM, Simon Orde wrote: > If you're installing the full version, there's no need to uninstall the > previous version. Just run the installation program for the full version. > It will detect your existing installation and install itself 'over the top' > of it as you say. > > Simon Orde > List Administrator& Family Historian designer > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Margaret North"<famwizard@googlemail.com> > To:<FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, March 26, 2012 7:07 PM > Subject: [FHU] Family Historian Version 5 > > >> I have at present FH V4.1.3 and because I have come to this version via >> V2.07 with the V3 upgrade and the V4 upgrade CDs I decided to order the >> full boxed V5 to make any subsequent re-install less complicated. My >> question is when V5 arrives will I need to uninstall my present program >> before installing V5 or can I just install V5 over the top of my present >> version so to speak? If it is of any relevance I have Windows 7 64bit >> operating system. >> >> Many thanks, >> Margaret North. >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
"Map Life Events" is an early Plugin with fairly basic capabilities. It is accompanied by "Map Geo-code Maintenance" that allows mapping to be refined. However, "Map Life Facts" is a later improved Plugin, combining the two above, plus many more options to aid accurate mapping. Regards, Mike Tate -----Original Message----- From: family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ian Thirlwell Sent: 26 March 2012 20:53 To: family-historian-users@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FHU] Family Historian Version 5 Downloaded the V5 upgrade & installed ok, though I was confused at first by the request for a security key. Got past that to enter the licensing info & all running ok. I decided to have a look at the Map Life Events plugin which looked interesting but found that the map pointers were wildly out. I used an ancestor born in Newcastle on Tyne and Quick View Current Record. All events were in or close to Newcastle apart from one in Darlington. Of the five locations represented only Darlington and one close to Newcastle were mapped more or less correctly. Newcastle itself was way to the west towards Hexham. Is this a problem with the plugin or Google maps? Ian Thirlwell ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
On 26 March 2012 22:26, Glen Phillips <glenp@glenp.plus.com> wrote: > There seems to be a licensing problem with people on the V4 free upgrade > offer. The free V4-V5 upgrades have not been sent out yet, you will need to wait for the email from Calico with your upgrade key, which I understand will be sent out later this week. -- Jane. Jane Taubman | www.rjt.org.uk | www.taubman.org.uk |www.fhug.org.uk
On 26/03/2012 21:37, Robert Warnock wrote: > I have version 4.1.3 bought in December 2011 with a free upgrade to v5. To > make use of this offer do I simply download the trial of v5 and then use the > code I got for V4? All other options seem to require payment. > Bob Warnock > This is what Calicoe Pie say in their bulletin: "Anyone who bought version 4 as a download, from 10 Nov 2011 onwards, is entitled to a free downloadable upgrade to version 5. If this is you, there is no need to do anything. We will email you your free upgrade hopefully some time later this week. If you bought a boxed copy of version 4 from a stockist who was participating in this offer, you will be entitled to a free CD upgrade. It may take a little while for these to come through too, as we (and they) have been affected by delays with deliveries of both the full boxed version, and CD upgrades. Your patience is appreciated." Lorna
On 26/03/2012 20:59, Laraine Hake wrote: > So, if I read the flow diagram correctly............since I bought V4 at the > end of August (just before the announcement of V5) so come into the > "Install Full V4 with bought key" category and intended to buy V5 upgrade, > it appears that I need the bought key in order to install V4 - V5. > > Sorry Mike. I am still unclear. It rather looks as if I will have to buy > the whole thing again having bought V4 at the end of August 2011 - a very > short time, it seemed, before the announcement of V5 appeared. Hi Laraine, As you already have V4 installed at the moment you will be able to install the 'Upgrade' version of V5 without having your V4 CD or V4 registration key. So in the short term there is no problem. But (as Mike said) if you ever need to re-install FH on a new computer or after a PC breakdown, you would need the V4 CD and registration key to install V4 again before you could install the V5 upgrade. > One other answer I would appreciate please..........the HELP tab on V4 > included access to an online version of the book "Getting the most from > Family Historian 4" which has been tremendously useful. It appears that a > similar book for V5 will cost £18.95. Have I read that correctly or is that > just a hardback version Don't worry, that's just the cost of the printed version. There is still an e-version of "Getting the Most from Family Historian 5". Lorna
There seems to be a licensing problem with people on the V4 free upgrade offer. "Entered licence name and key combination are not valid" -----Original Message----- From: family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Simon Orde Sent: 26 March 2012 18:00 To: FHU Mailing List Subject: [FHU] *** Version 5 has been released I'm very pleased to announce that version 5 of Family Historian has now been released. This is a major upgrade with a lot of new features and enhancements. See http://www.family-historian.co.uk/features/whats-new-in-v5 for full details and pictures. Users of version 3 or earlier versions, who wish to upgrade, should buy the full product - either boxed or as a download. "Version 3" means any version where the first digit is a '3'. Users of version 4 who wish to upgrade can buy an upgrade product - either as a download or on CD. Or if you prefer to buy a full version, you can of course do that too. See http://www.family-historian.co.uk/buy-now for purchase/upgrade options. I would like to take this opportunity to thank all the beta testers who tested version 5 for us. They did a fantastic job and version 5 has benefitted greatly as a result. If you don't know what "beta testers" are, they are real users who do pre-release product testing. I would also like to thank Jane Taubman who, as well as sharing with me the role of being an administrator on this list and running the Family Historian User Group website, has provided a huge amount of help with version 5 - as she did with previous versions. Simon Orde List Administrator & Family Historian designer ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
It works now. It didn't before Have just ordered the upgrade Victor On 26/03/2012 9:29 PM, Roger Firth wrote: > On 26/03/2012 21:11, Victor Markham wrote: >> I have looked at the site provided by your hot link. For the CD one has >> to obtain this from retailers. The site said see list of retailers but >> there is no link to such a list. > Certainly there's a link -- just click on "Sold via Resellers - see > list". For the boxed set it's > http://www.family-historian.co.uk/buy-now-sub/fh5-boxed, and for the > upgrade CD it's > http://www.family-historian.co.uk/buy-now-sub/fh5-upgrade-cd. >
Thanks Mike Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device -----Original Message----- From: "Beryl & Mike Tate" <post@tatewise.co.uk> Sender: family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 22:52:00 To: <family-historian-users@rootsweb.com> Reply-To: family-historian-users@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FHU] Family Historian Version 5 Buy the upgrade version download. The V4-V5 upgrade only needs its licence key and the V3-V4 licence key to successfully install. Simply copy the downloaded installation file from your PC to the laptop, and repeat the installation there. Regards, Mike Tate -----Original Message----- From: family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Victor Markham Sent: 26 March 2012 21:12 To: family-historian-users@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FHU] Family Historian Version 5 Simon I look forward to upgrading this. I do have the latest version 4. I am in two minds about whether to opt for the upgrade or change to the full version. I started in version 2.0 (I think) I am also in two minds whether to download this or buy the CD. I install this both on my desk top as well as my lap top. This has been allowed in the past so long as they are both for personal use. I presume this is still the case. If opt to I download the upgrade could I download it to the lap top as well? I have looked at the site provided by your hot link. For the CD one has to obtain this from retailers. The site said see list of retailers but there is no link to such a list. Victor On 26/03/2012 7:23 PM, Simon Orde wrote: > If you're installing the full version, there's no need to uninstall the > previous version. Just run the installation program for the full version. > It will detect your existing installation and install itself 'over the top' > of it as you say. > > Simon Orde > List Administrator& Family Historian designer > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Margaret North"<famwizard@googlemail.com> > To:<FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, March 26, 2012 7:07 PM > Subject: [FHU] Family Historian Version 5 > > >> I have at present FH V4.1.3 and because I have come to this version via >> V2.07 with the V3 upgrade and the V4 upgrade CDs I decided to order the >> full boxed V5 to make any subsequent re-install less complicated. My >> question is when V5 arrives will I need to uninstall my present program >> before installing V5 or can I just install V5 over the top of my present >> version so to speak? If it is of any relevance I have Windows 7 64bit >> operating system. >> >> Many thanks, >> Margaret North. >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
I have version 4.1.3 bought in December 2011 with a free upgrade to v5. To make use of this offer do I simply download the trial of v5 and then use the code I got for V4? All other options seem to require payment. Bob Warnock
On 26/03/2012 21:11, Victor Markham wrote: > > I have looked at the site provided by your hot link. For the CD one has > to obtain this from retailers. The site said see list of retailers but > there is no link to such a list. Certainly there's a link -- just click on "Sold via Resellers - see list". For the boxed set it's http://www.family-historian.co.uk/buy-now-sub/fh5-boxed, and for the upgrade CD it's http://www.family-historian.co.uk/buy-now-sub/fh5-upgrade-cd. -- Cheers, Roger
Simon I look forward to upgrading this. I do have the latest version 4. I am in two minds about whether to opt for the upgrade or change to the full version. I started in version 2.0 (I think) I am also in two minds whether to download this or buy the CD. I install this both on my desk top as well as my lap top. This has been allowed in the past so long as they are both for personal use. I presume this is still the case. If opt to I download the upgrade could I download it to the lap top as well? I have looked at the site provided by your hot link. For the CD one has to obtain this from retailers. The site said see list of retailers but there is no link to such a list. Victor On 26/03/2012 7:23 PM, Simon Orde wrote: > If you're installing the full version, there's no need to uninstall the > previous version. Just run the installation program for the full version. > It will detect your existing installation and install itself 'over the top' > of it as you say. > > Simon Orde > List Administrator& Family Historian designer > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Margaret North"<famwizard@googlemail.com> > To:<FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, March 26, 2012 7:07 PM > Subject: [FHU] Family Historian Version 5 > > >> I have at present FH V4.1.3 and because I have come to this version via >> V2.07 with the V3 upgrade and the V4 upgrade CDs I decided to order the >> full boxed V5 to make any subsequent re-install less complicated. My >> question is when V5 arrives will I need to uninstall my present program >> before installing V5 or can I just install V5 over the top of my present >> version so to speak? If it is of any relevance I have Windows 7 64bit >> operating system. >> >> Many thanks, >> Margaret North. >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
So, if I read the flow diagram correctly............since I bought V4 at the end of August (just before the announcement of V5) so come into the "Install Full V4 with bought key" category and intended to buy V5 upgrade, it appears that I need the bought key in order to install V4 - V5. Sorry Mike. I am still unclear. It rather looks as if I will have to buy the whole thing again having bought V4 at the end of August 2011 - a very short time, it seemed, before the announcement of V5 appeared. I do realise I only have myself to blame for my carelessness. The last time I can definitely recall having it was on our motorhome where I conscientiously worked through the Getting Started Booklet. Having been a very early user of Pedigree (#0097) sticking with it for close on twenty years..............I am delighted with FH but have put off getting to grips with it entirely waiting for V5. One other answer I would appreciate please..........the HELP tab on V4 included access to an online version of the book "Getting the most from Family Historian 4" which has been tremendously useful. It appears that a similar book for V5 will cost £18.95. Have I read that correctly or is that just a hardback version? Very many thanks for your help and (possible) patience! Laraine -------------------------------------------------- From: "Beryl & Mike Tate" <post@tatewise.co.uk> Sent: Monday, March 26, 2012 8:22 PM To: "'Laraine Hake'" <laraine10@btinternet.com>; <family-historian-users@rootsweb.com> Subject: RE: [FHU] Family Historian Version 5 > Since you are installing over an existing running installation you will > not need your original disc. > If you are installing a Full Licence Version then you will only ever the > need the current FH V5 CD or Download. > > However, if you are installing a V4 to V5 Upgrade Licence Version you will > need your FH V4 CD and its Licence Registration Key if > you ever need to re-install on a new PC or after a PC breakdown. > See > http://www.fhug.org.uk/wiki/doku.php?id=how_to:reinstall_family_historian > for details. > > Regards, Mike Tate > > -----Original Message----- > From: family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Laraine > Hake > Sent: 26 March 2012 19:59 > To: family-historian-users@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [FHU] Family Historian Version 5 > > Can I assume that I will not need my original disc...............since it > seems to have gone walkabout............ Very > frustrating! > > Laraine > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Jane Taubman" <janetaubman@gmail.com> > Sent: Monday, March 26, 2012 7:24 PM > To: <family-historian-users@rootsweb.com> > Subject: Re: [FHU] Family Historian Version 5 > >> You can install over the top, and it will migrate your settings, if >> you have any full FH version it can be installed over any earlier one >> to retain as many settings as possible. >> >> On 26 March 2012 19:07, Margaret North <famwizard@googlemail.com> wrote: >>> My >>> question is when V5 arrives will I need to uninstall my present program >>> before installing V5 or can I just install V5 over the top of my present >>> version so to speak? >> >> >> >> -- >> Jane. >> >> Jane Taubman | www.rjt.org.uk | www.taubman.org.uk |www.fhug.org.uk >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
Downloaded the V5 upgrade & installed ok, though I was confused at first by the request for a security key. Got past that to enter the licensing info & all running ok. I decided to have a look at the Map Life Events plugin which looked interesting but found that the map pointers were wildly out. I used an ancestor born in Newcastle on Tyne and Quick View Current Record. All events were in or close to Newcastle apart from one in Darlington. Of the five locations represented only Darlington and one close to Newcastle were mapped more or less correctly. Newcastle itself was way to the west towards Hexham. Is this a problem with the plugin or Google maps? Ian Thirlwell