Hi Laraine You'll get a new key John P Laws. (Member 674, of GOONS since 1984) Putting Flesh on the Bones of History laws@one-name.org Researching LAWS & its variants worldwide since 1974. -----Original Message----- From: family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Laraine Hake Sent: 31 March 2012 08:32 To: family-historian-users@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FHU] Version 5 Key; With all this talk about Key entry, please could somebody absolutely confirm for me that my Key is NOT needed if I buy the upgrade to V5 as a download to the version 4 I bought in August. I fully understand that if I have a computer crash or install to a new computer, I would have to buy the full programme again - I am still assuming that the box with the disc therein and the key is going to turn up.............I cannot possibly have thrown it away................ I am intended to upgrade this afternoon but will consider paying the extra and downloading the complete version if a key is needed - just do not want to do both! Many thanks Laraine -------------------------------------------------- From: "MARGARET LAWRENCE" <meltcl@btinternet.com> Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2012 8:09 AM To: <family-historian-users@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [FHU] Version 5 Key; > I bought the upgrade CD and the number 0 does have a strike through, > though I admit that it is quite faint. > > Margaret. > > >>________________________________ >>From: Mike Longbottom <mike.longbottom@ntlworld.com> >>To: FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS@rootsweb.com >>Sent: Friday, 30 March 2012, 22:33 >>Subject: [FHU] Version 5 Key; >> >>As an aide; >>The Key entry box is configured to accept all key entries and inserts >>them as Upper case. >>The letter “O” is a nice fat figure whilst the “0” is slimmer; (almost >>oval) although I appreciate that’s not easily distinguished on a PC or >>Laptop screen. >>It may be helpful at a later date to use the numerical “0” as a strike >>through zero for the members who find differentiation difficult. >>Love the new version. >>Regards >>MikeL >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I've installed the latest version on top of vs 4. When using a diagram, it seems the Movement Control box has to remain open to enable movement. On the previous version, you could open the control box, select the option required then close it and perform the movement. I'm finding having to have it remain open a nuisance as it hides part of my diagram and I have to keep moving it out of the way. In the previous version there were two icons on the Toolbar - one for the Movement Control box to open it and one to enable Moving/Resizing. Now I only have the Enable Moving/Resizing one. Is there a way I can change this please?

Marion: If you look at the discussion of family events in "How to get the most out of FH" (it is chapter 6 in v5 and I think it was the same in v4) you will see an explanation in the description of the co-residence custom attribute. You will see from that discussion that the address and note etc filed relate to the event not the parties to the event, age being a specific exemption. I use the marriage address filed to store the name of the church, register office or wherever the marriage took place and put both groom and bride's details in the note field. Others I think put all the details in the text from source field. I believe the multimedia also attaches to the family record rather than to the individual records if you enter it from the marriage fact dialogue. HTH Derek ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marion Woolgar" <listmail008@btinternet.com> To: <family-historian-users@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2012 7:39 AM Subject: [FHU] Entering Marriage Details >I have a problem entering marriage details into FH v 4.1.2 - my copy of FH > v5 upgrade is on order and is hopefully on its way. >

I suspect your problem with the addresses is that you are entering them as the address of the event. This would be eg the church or register office etc. You need to define separate residence attributes for the bride and groom. Ian -----Original Message----- From: Marion Woolgar Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2012 7:39 AM To: family-historian-users@rootsweb.com Subject: [FHU] Entering Marriage Details However, I now discover that I have three problems: 1 When I enter the address information for the Bride, it also changes the address information for the Groom to show her address as his. Now I'll grant you that, for early marriages, both Groom and Bride do very often come from the same parish; but there are instances nevertheless where their 'addresses' are different. However, the problem becomes much more difficult with the post-1837 marriages where more take place in towns and the street addresses of the Groom and Bride are almost always different. Best wishes, Marion Woolgar Bognor Regis, West Sussex ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

With all this talk about Key entry, please could somebody absolutely confirm for me that my Key is NOT needed if I buy the upgrade to V5 as a download to the version 4 I bought in August. I fully understand that if I have a computer crash or install to a new computer, I would have to buy the full programme again - I am still assuming that the box with the disc therein and the key is going to turn up.............I cannot possibly have thrown it away................ I am intended to upgrade this afternoon but will consider paying the extra and downloading the complete version if a key is needed - just do not want to do both! Many thanks Laraine -------------------------------------------------- From: "MARGARET LAWRENCE" <meltcl@btinternet.com> Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2012 8:09 AM To: <family-historian-users@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [FHU] Version 5 Key; > I bought the upgrade CD and the number 0 does have a strike through, > though I admit that it is quite faint. > > Margaret. > > >>________________________________ >>From: Mike Longbottom <mike.longbottom@ntlworld.com> >>To: FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS@rootsweb.com >>Sent: Friday, 30 March 2012, 22:33 >>Subject: [FHU] Version 5 Key; >> >>As an aide; >>The Key entry box is configured to accept all key entries and inserts them >>as Upper case. >>The letter “O” is a nice fat figure whilst the “0” is slimmer; (almost >>oval) although I appreciate that’s not easily distinguished on a PC or >>Laptop screen. >>It may be helpful at a later date to use the numerical “0” as a strike >>through zero for the members who find differentiation difficult. >>Love the new version. >>Regards >>MikeL >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I bought the upgrade CD and the number 0 does have a strike through, though I admit that it is quite faint. Margaret. >________________________________ >From: Mike Longbottom <mike.longbottom@ntlworld.com> >To: FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS@rootsweb.com >Sent: Friday, 30 March 2012, 22:33 >Subject: [FHU] Version 5 Key; > >As an aide; >The Key entry box is configured to accept all key entries and inserts them as Upper case. >The letter “O” is a nice fat figure whilst the “0” is slimmer; (almost oval) although I appreciate that’s not easily distinguished on a PC or Laptop screen. >It may be helpful at a later date to use the numerical “0” as a strike through zero for the members who find differentiation difficult. >Love the new version. >Regards >MikeL > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

I don't have an answer to your problem but would suggest you enter marriage details via Nick Walkers Ancestral Sources. It is an excellent and quick way to do this. Baptism details can also be added via Ancestral Sources. If you haven't downloaded this it is free from the http://www.fhug.org.uk/cgi-bin/index.cgi?action=viewnews&id=187. If you are not aware of this it started with having census details. I just now look forward to be able to add burial details. I don't know about adding noted as I have never done that. Victor On 31/03/2012 7:39 AM, Marion Woolgar wrote: > I have a problem entering marriage details into FH v 4.1.2 - my copy of FH > v5 upgrade is on order and is hopefully on its way. > > With the Property Box open and the Groom's record at the top, I enter the > marriage date and place and also a Source Citation. I then click on the > Facts Tab and enter the age and address of the Groom plus any notes. I then > click on the Multimedia Tab and add any images relating to that marriage > e.g. certificate, wedding photos etc. I then switch to the Bride and enter > her age and address plus any notes. So far, so good. > > I thought that was job done and I have entered literally thousands of > marriages from my One-Name Study that way over the past two years as I > transfer my data from a manual system to FH. > > However, I now discover that I have three problems: > > 1 When I enter the address information for the Bride, it also changes > the address information for the Groom to show her address as his. Now I'll > grant you that, for early marriages, both Groom and Bride do very often come > from the same parish; but there are instances nevertheless where their > 'addresses' are different. However, the problem becomes much more difficult > with the post-1837 marriages where more take place in towns and the street > addresses of the Groom and Bride are almost always different. > > 2 The same thing happens in the Notes field. The notes that I enter > for the Groom also appear on the Bride's record. When I change the Bride's > record to show her correct notes (and they are sometimes different), they > overwrite the text that I have previously entered on the Groom's record. > > The really odd thing is that when I enter different ages for the Groom and > Bride, they ARE accurately held by the program, it is only the Address and > Notes fields that are affected. I simply cannot see where I have gone > wrong, or how to correct the problem. > > 3 When entering the media image(s), I thought that I was attaching > them to the event (as that was where my cursor was immediately before > clicking on the multimedia tab), it now seems that I was attaching them to > the person i.e. only to the Groom, because the image hasn't also been > attached to the Bride's records. > > Can anyone enlighten me as to what has gone wrong with entering the marriage > data; and how to correct the problems, please? > > Best wishes, > > Marion Woolgar > Bognor Regis, West Sussex > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have a problem entering marriage details into FH v 4.1.2 - my copy of FH v5 upgrade is on order and is hopefully on its way. With the Property Box open and the Groom's record at the top, I enter the marriage date and place and also a Source Citation. I then click on the Facts Tab and enter the age and address of the Groom plus any notes. I then click on the Multimedia Tab and add any images relating to that marriage e.g. certificate, wedding photos etc. I then switch to the Bride and enter her age and address plus any notes. So far, so good. I thought that was job done and I have entered literally thousands of marriages from my One-Name Study that way over the past two years as I transfer my data from a manual system to FH. However, I now discover that I have three problems: 1 When I enter the address information for the Bride, it also changes the address information for the Groom to show her address as his. Now I'll grant you that, for early marriages, both Groom and Bride do very often come from the same parish; but there are instances nevertheless where their 'addresses' are different. However, the problem becomes much more difficult with the post-1837 marriages where more take place in towns and the street addresses of the Groom and Bride are almost always different. 2 The same thing happens in the Notes field. The notes that I enter for the Groom also appear on the Bride's record. When I change the Bride's record to show her correct notes (and they are sometimes different), they overwrite the text that I have previously entered on the Groom's record. The really odd thing is that when I enter different ages for the Groom and Bride, they ARE accurately held by the program, it is only the Address and Notes fields that are affected. I simply cannot see where I have gone wrong, or how to correct the problem. 3 When entering the media image(s), I thought that I was attaching them to the event (as that was where my cursor was immediately before clicking on the multimedia tab), it now seems that I was attaching them to the person i.e. only to the Groom, because the image hasn't also been attached to the Bride's records. Can anyone enlighten me as to what has gone wrong with entering the marriage data; and how to correct the problems, please? Best wishes, Marion Woolgar Bognor Regis, West Sussex

As an aide; The Key entry box is configured to accept all key entries and inserts them as Upper case. The letter “O” is a nice fat figure whilst the “0” is slimmer; (almost oval) although I appreciate that’s not easily distinguished on a PC or Laptop screen. It may be helpful at a later date to use the numerical “0” as a strike through zero for the members who find differentiation difficult. Love the new version. Regards MikeL

Hi Julie, I am glad to hear that you are not losing Individuals, especially because it saves me trying to construct a very large database to run tests against the Plugin. Changing all Baptisms into Christenings would certainly appear to be best course in your case, since it will allow the FAMC Parent Family links on any Christening Event. If you change all Christenings into Baptisms, then the following effects will apply. 1) Each Christening without a FAMC link will convert to a Baptism without any side effects. 2a) Each Christening with a FAMC link will convert to a Baptism with no FAMC link. 2b) The "Warning %INDI.BAPM.FAMC% ~ Invalid Tag" is raised for each such Event. 2c) A Source Note saying "%INDI.BAPM.FAMC% ~ Invalid Tag" is added to each such Baptism Event (at present the Family is not identified, but I could change that). 2d) On the assumption that this Event FAMC link probably identifies the same Family as the Individual Record FAMC link, then no significant information is lost. I am close to 100% certain that there would be no other side effects. But you should of course review your data carefully and keep appropriate backups in case something comes to light later. Incidentally, I tried the "Christening-Baptism Conversion" Plugin and it performed the action 2a) above, but WITHOUT any of the 2b) or 2c) warnings. Thank you for your patience - I hope this and other Plugins will enhance your Family Historian experience. Regards, Mike Tate -----Original Message----- From: family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of JulieandMalcolm@kett.fsnet.co.uk Sent: 30 March 2012 13:48 To: family-historian-users@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FHU] FH Plug in Change Facts Hi Mike, I was in the process of doing all the checks you suggested when I saw this message :) Thankfully I am not losing individuals - I had, in blind panic - jumped to the wrong conclusion :( If baptism is not allowed, then I will have to change all the baptisms into christenings. But if I go ahead with changing christenings into baptisms, what are the implications of losing the FAMC Parent Family links? Will this cause any other problems? regards Julie Julie, I have found the cause of the "Warning %INDI.BAPM.FAMC% ~ Invalid Tag" messages. It is an anomaly with the GEDCOM 5.5 specification. Whereas BIRTh, and CHRistening, and ADOPted Events are allowed FAMC Parent Family links, NO OTHER Events or Attributes are allowed such family links. Therefore, when a CHRistening with a FAMC link is changed to a BAPtisM the FAMC Tag is Invalid. Nothing I can do about that. So if you want these Events all to be the same you will have to change all BAPtisM Events into CHRistening Events, or lose the FAMC Parent Family links. I cannot explain why your "file goes down from 20,910 individuals to just 483". Regards, Mike Tate ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Ian Your suggestion is a fix for something that should not have been a problem. The key for V3 was in dot matrix typeface, but large; the key for V4 was in large black Arial; but the key for V5 was feint and as I said, not large enough for my old eyes. A return to the font used for V4 would be quite satisfactory. There does not seem to be a magnifier in Vista, but I can always use my magnifying glass. Paddy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Family" <family@ianmacwhirter.plus.com> To: <family-historian-users@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 30, 2012 7:20 PM Subject: Re: [FHU] Registration key > If users who have difficulty in reading small or feint typeface want a > quick > solution, there is one provided they use Windows 7. > > The 'magnifier' tool might meet their needs. Some users have complained to > me that the enlarged characters look somewhat pixelated, but one can't > have > everything. > > Click on the start "globe" and type magnifier. (the file name is > magnify.exe). Click on the search result. > > Experiment with its use. There's a good deal to play with. > > Closing 'magnifier' down sometimes raises the blood pressure but in Win 7 > the icon for magnifier (that is running) will be visible on the Task Bar; > hover there and you should see a small control panel appear that has the > familiar red X for closure. > > Ian > >

I forget the actual format of the box the key has to be typed in; but in many cases it is possible to copy a key (Ctrl-C) and paste it in (Ctrl-V) - regardless of whether or not we can read it. I think that's what I may have done in this case - but can't recall exactly. Memory failing, as well as eyesight:-) John -----Original Message----- From: family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Paddy Buckley Sent: 30 March 2012 15:13 To: family-historian-users@rootsweb.com Subject: [FHU] Registration key FH5 successfully installed over FH 4.3.1. No problems. But my aged eyes struggled to read the key. Please Calico Pie: use a bigger, clearer font, that will still be readable in years to come. Paddy Buckley

If users who have difficulty in reading small or feint typeface want a quick solution, there is one provided they use Windows 7. The 'magnifier' tool might meet their needs. Some users have complained to me that the enlarged characters look somewhat pixelated, but one can't have everything. Click on the start "globe" and type magnifier. (the file name is magnify.exe). Click on the search result. Experiment with its use. There's a good deal to play with. Closing 'magnifier' down sometimes raises the blood pressure but in Win 7 the icon for magnifier (that is running) will be visible on the Task Bar; hover there and you should see a small control panel appear that has the familiar red X for closure. Ian

Using LinuxMint v12 and running FH v4.1.3 through Wine very successfully. Downloaded FH v4.1.3 to v5.0 today (incredibly prompt service!) but when I click to install nothing happens. Well, apart from a couple of seconds activity on the HDD. So, decided to try through VirtualBox. Installed VB4.1 and then WindowXP, followed by FH4.1.3 and all was well. Installed v4 to v5 successfully, to the point of having my registration details and key accepted and being able to created a desktop icon but on clicking on the icon to run, received an error message "Cannot find import: DLL may be missing, corrupt, or wrong version File mfc.dll, error 126" A Google search led me to the Microsoft website, where I was invited to download WindowsInstaller-KB893803-v2-x86.exe. I then installed this, as advised but FH still returns the same error. Any advice would be gratefully received. David -- Zed ...they stood on their hind legs and barked at the scenery.

Yes, but you can also add as many other name fields as you want using ... on the end of the name field on the property box. You might find this one useful. http://www.fhug.org.uk/wiki/doku.php?id=how_to:handle_people_with_multiple_names On 30 March 2012 17:29, Steve Bye <steve.bye2@btinternet.com> wrote: > I can get the "Known as" field to appear wherever I need it. This reads to > me as someone named Albert was known as Digger to his friends and family. > What I wanted was an "Also known as" option. This is to add other name's > used e.g. Born Albert Smith, also known as Fred Bloggs, Roy Rogers and Dick > Barton. Bit of a criminal in the family. -- Jane. Jane Taubman | www.rjt.org.uk | www.taubman.org.uk |www.fhug.org.uk

I can get the "Known as" field to appear wherever I need it. This reads to me as someone named Albert was known as Digger to his friends and family. What I wanted was an "Also known as" option. This is to add other name's used e.g. Born Albert Smith, also known as Fred Bloggs, Roy Rogers and Dick Barton. Bit of a criminal in the family. -----Original Message----- From: family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jane Taubman Sent: 30 March 2012 16:46 To: family-historian-users@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FHU] Got my v5 today You have always been able to add AKA data, and include it in diagrams are you talking about on reports? On 30 March 2012 16:32, Steve Bye <steve.bye2@btinternet.com> wrote: > I was hoping for an "a.k.a" option. -- Jane. Jane Taubman | www.rjt.org.uk | www.taubman.org.uk |www.fhug.org.uk ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

You have always been able to add AKA data, and include it in diagrams are you talking about on reports? On 30 March 2012 16:32, Steve Bye <steve.bye2@btinternet.com> wrote: > I was hoping for an "a.k.a" option. -- Jane. Jane Taubman | www.rjt.org.uk | www.taubman.org.uk |www.fhug.org.uk

I am sorry to have to agree with Paddy. EVERYTHING about FH is wonderful to me, but at 83 (nearly 4) I find the Registrations keys hard to read (cataract in one eye and the other failing). I can never work out whether the 'O' is numeric or alphabetic. :-( but apart from that - thank you Simon et al - and of course Jane. A bit of help fot us old uns would be much appreciated though. Thank you all for a marvellous product. Reg Clifford -----Original Message----- From: family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Paddy Buckley Sent: 30 March 2012 15:13 To: family-historian-users@rootsweb.com Subject: [FHU] Registration key FH5 successfully installed over FH 4.3.1. No problems. But my aged eyes struggled to read the key. Please Calico Pie: use a bigger, clearer font, that will still be readable in years to come. Paddy Buckley ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 7013 (20120330) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com

I was hoping for an "a.k.a" option. Steve

"There does not seem to be a magnifier in Vista, but I can always use my magnifying glass" Paddy Buckley. Paddy, In Vista you will find the magnifier under All Programs, Accessories, Ease of access, Magnifier. Don