I don't think you can do it with a query do you have V5? if you do you could do it with a plugin. On 2 April 2012 16:05, George Bush <bush.lyme@ntlworld.com> wrote: > Somewhere in my, or my wife's, tree are 2 brothers (not twins) who died > either on the same day or within 24 hours of each other. > I cannot for the life of me recall who they were so I wonder if it would be > possible to construct a query to find them for me? > -- Jane. Jane Taubman | www.rjt.org.uk | www.taubman.org.uk |www.fhug.org.uk

Somewhere in my, or my wife's, tree are 2 brothers (not twins) who died either on the same day or within 24 hours of each other. I cannot for the life of me recall who they were so I wonder if it would be possible to construct a query to find them for me? Eliminating all females and anyone whose surname is unknown would be fairly straightforward, I think, but after that I would be struggling. I did try creating a Date of Death column in the Records window, then sorting on that column, but after quite a long time looking at all the possibilities this produced I finally realised I had barely scratched the surface and gave up. Any suggestions would be most welcome. George

I am trialing Family Historian because of some of the interesting features it provides. When I created a New Project, my options did not include the Family Tree Maker file extension of .ftm, so I used the "all files" option. FTM gave me the option of including media in the gedcom file it was creating, which I selected. When I used this gedcom file as input to the New Project, everything converted very well except for the media. It shows boxes with X's through them. Has anyone converted a Family Tree Maker 2012 file to Family Historian v. 5? I sent an email to Family Historian support and they told me to use the Tools/ Work With External File links but that didn't work at all. It didn't show any media records except the 2 I'd manually added. I'd really like to give this a good test, but don't want to have to manually add all my media to Family History if I can get around it. Thanks for any help you can give, Nancy

Diana I bought a new Windows 7 a year or so ago and faced a similar problem. The process to load v2 then the upgrades to v3 and v4 in turn was not difficult, but with all the other software I was loading on to the new computer I decided it would be one job too many next time I had to do it, and that when v5 was released I would treat myself to a brand new copy (the difference in price is not massive). Copying your project folder(s) from your v4 PC to one running v5 is simple, so my choice would be to put brand new software on the brand new laptop. Bob Brock www.badger55.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: DIANA SHEASBY Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 2:59 PM To: FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS@rootsweb.com Subject: [FHU] advice please: upgrade of computer, OS and to v5 I have successfully run versions of FH from 2.0.7 to 4, each time purchasing the paid for upgrade CDs (to v3 and v4) for which I have the key codes, and downloading the free interim upgrades. I ordered and have received my v5 upgrade CD wherein now lies my problem which I had not anticipated. My present computer operates on Windows 2000 Professional which is not compatible with the new v5 software - a small matter I had overlooked, and which TWR, from whom I ordered, had also in printing their February catalogue. They are now aware of this error. Probably, not before time, I am treating myself to a new laptop operating on Windows 7 and would welcome some definitive advice about how best to achieve migration to the new computer, operating system and the FH upgrade. I have looked at the FUG 'How To's' and past mailings which address some issues, but remain unsure. The new laptop will be my main computer, the old one I will keep for backing up on its hard-drive and operating older software, I also have an external hard-drive to which I backup all my files, data, etc. Should I cut my loses with regard to the software, return my v5 upgrade and buy a boxed complete version? Thanks in anticipation Diana

Your new computer will be fine. With the V4-V5 upgrade CD you can simply install it on the new computer and it will prompt your for both your V4 and V5 license keys and once both are entered it will install. On 2 April 2012 14:59, DIANA SHEASBY <diana.sheasby@btinternet.com> wrote: > > The new laptop will be my main computer, the old one I will keep for > backing up on its hard-drive and operating older software, I also have an > external hard-drive to which I backup all my files, data, etc. Should I > cut my loses with regard to the software, return my v5 upgrade and buy a > boxed complete version? > > > -- Jane. Jane Taubman | www.rjt.org.uk | www.taubman.org.uk |www.fhug.org.uk

I have successfully run versions of FH from 2.0.7 to 4, each time purchasing the paid for upgrade CDs (to v3 and v4) for which I have the key codes, and downloading the free interim upgrades.  I ordered and have received my v5 upgrade CD wherein now lies my problem which I had not anticipated. My present computer operates on Windows 2000 Professional which is not compatible with the new v5 software - a small matter I had overlooked, and which TWR, from whom I ordered, had also in printing their February catalogue. They are now aware of this error. Probably, not before time, I am treating myself to a new laptop operating on Windows 7 and would welcome some definitive advice about how best to achieve migration to the new computer, operating system and the FH upgrade. I have looked at the FUG 'How To's' and past mailings which address some issues, but remain unsure.   The new laptop will be my main computer, the old one I will keep for backing up on its hard-drive and operating older software, I also have an external hard-drive to which I backup all my files, data, etc.  Should I cut my loses with regard to the software, return my v5 upgrade and buy a boxed complete version?   Thanks in anticipation Diana

I looks like a "bug" in Mac Family Tree, I am pretty sure 2 CONT County:Lancashire 1 CONT 2 CONT CORRIGAN, DanielHead, 31, b1880, Shoe Maker, Manchester Lancs should be 2 CONT County:Lancashire 2 CONT 2 CONT CORRIGAN, DanielHead, 31, b1880, Shoe Maker, Manchester Lancs I am reasonably sure you should never have a level CONT line, so you might just be able to do a search and replace on the GEDCOM file. On 2 April 2012 13:35, steve corrigan <steve.corrigan@gmail.com> wrote: > > 2 CONT County:Lancashire > > 1 CONT > > 2 CONT CORRIGAN, DanielHead, 31, b1880, Shoe Maker, Manchester Lancs -- Jane. Jane Taubman | www.rjt.org.uk | www.taubman.org.uk |www.fhug.org.uk

I am having some difficulties with a GEDCOM exported from MacFamilyTree. Note field for Source (Text from source) is truncated. Everything after a space is not read. *One Text Field reads:* 1911 census 12 Tudor St Rochdale Road Manchester Reg. District: Manchester Sub District: St George Parish: Manchester Enum. District: 8 Address: 12 Tudor St Rochdale Road Manchester County: Lancashire *It should read:* 1911 census 12 Tudor St Rochdale Road Manchester Reg. District: Manchester Sub District: St George Parish: Manchester Enum. District: 8 Address: 12 Tudor St Rochdale Road Manchester County: Lancashire CORRIGAN, Daniel Head, 31, b1880 , Shoe Maker, Manchester Lancs CORRIGAN, Mary Ann, Wife, married 12 years , 29, b1882, Manchester Lancs CORRIGAN, Daniel Son, 11, b1900 , School, Manchester Lancs CORRIGAN, Francis , Son, 8, b1903, School, Manchester Lancs CORRIGAN, Joseph, Son, 5, b1906, School, Manchester Lancs CORRIGAN, Alice, Daughter, 4, b1907, Manchester Lancs CORRIGAN, Edward, Son, 2, b1909 , Manchester Lancs STREET, Elizabeth, Sister In Law, Single, 22, 1889, Cook In Restaurant, Manchester Lancs STREET, Catherine, Sister In Law, Single, 16, b1895, Sewing Machinist Slipper, Manchester Lancashire *Output Gedcom from MacFamilyTree is:* 0 @S69275676@ SOUR 1 TITL Daniel Corrigan 1911 Census 1 DATE 2 Apr 1911 1 PLAC 12 Tudor Street Manchester 1 REFN RG14PN24141 RG78PN1387 RD466 SD3 ED8 SN278 1 TEXT 2 CONT 1911 census 12 Tudor St Rochdale Road Manchester 2 CONT Reg. District: ManchesterSub District: St George 2 CONT Parish: ManchesterEnum. District: 8 2 CONT Address:12 Tudor St Rochdale Road Manchester 2 CONT County:Lancashire 1 CONT 2 CONT CORRIGAN, DanielHead, 31, b1880, Shoe Maker, Manchester Lancs 2 CONT CORRIGAN, Mary Ann, Wife, married 12 years, 29, b1882, Manchester Lancs 2 CONT CORRIGAN, DanielSon, 11, b1900, School, Manchester Lancs 2 CONT CORRIGAN, Francis, Son, 8, b1903, School, Manchester Lancs 2 CONT CORRIGAN, Joseph, Son, 5, b1906, School, Manchester Lancs 2 CONT CORRIGAN, Alice, Daughter, 4, b1907, Manchester Lancs 2 CONT CORRIGAN, Edward, Son, 2, b1909, Manchester Lancs 2 CONT STREET, Elizabeth, Sister In Law, Single, 22, 1889, Cook In Restaurant, Manchester Lancs 2 CONT STREET, Catherine, Sister In Law, Single, 16, b1895, Sewing Machinist Slipper, Manchester Lancashire If I remove the space in MacFamilyTree before exporting everything works ok. Hoping someone can help Steve Corrigan

Will there be a hard copy book printed with all the changes included I know I could print out this from the programme but it is a bit of a problem Thanks

Mike - thanks for keeping with me on this one, and apologies for the weekend break!! << So when you open FH and open the Property Box Facts tab, the Copy Fact(s) button is enabled and the Paste Fact(s) button is greyed out. >> Correct << Hovering your cursor over the buttons gives the above button names as the popup tooltip? >> Correct << When you select a Fact does it matter which one you choose, or do all behave the same? If you choose a Family (red bullet) or Child (grey bullet) Fact and click Copy Fact(s) button, what happens? If you choose an Individual (blue bullet) Fact and click Copy Fact(s) button, does the Paste Fact(s) button next to it immediately become active or not? Or is it only when you switch to another Property Box does the Paste Fact(s) button become inactive? >> All the "blue bullet" facts I've tried (e.g. occupation, residence, birth, baptism, education) behave the same - left-clicking on the Copy Fact(s) button appears to have no effect and the Paste Fact(s) button remains greyed out. Occasionally the Paste Fact(s) button appears to flash yellow before reverting to grey. For "red bullet" and "grey bullet" facts I get a standard pop-up message box telling me that only "blue bullet" facts can be copied in this context. Basically I cannot seem to get the Paste Fact(s) button to become active at all, and switching to another property box makes no difference. I've also tried this by selecting individuals from the Individuals tab of the Records window and by selecting via the Focus window and this also makes no difference. << You are not accidentally running two copies of FH at the same time by any chance, and switching from one to the other? >> I've been into Windows Task Manager and there is only one copy of FH.EXE running. I've also tried validating the Gedcom file - which says there are no errors found. For interest my project has 9135 individuals and 2769 families, but as mentioned previously I have the same issues in the sample project so doubt that data is the cause of the problem. The fact that the problem briefly seemed to go away, confuses me. I always have the problem when the first project I open is my own family project, but I sometimes don't have the problem when I open the sample project first. Closing the sample project without saving and then opening my own project, I find I don't have the problem. When saving my project after making changes I sometimes get a message box telling me the save process (probably due to conflict with another program) has failed and giving me the option to retry. In this case the other program is Virgin Media Backup and Storage which I have set up to automatically back up changed files to a remote server. If I ensure that Virgin's backup completes before I retry my save within FH, then I don't seem to have the problem when I re-open my project in FH. I'm thinking that the problem must lie with whatever FH does when a save fails, or with the way either FH or Virgin Backup handles files being simultaneously accessed by another program, and that whatever is happening this is somehow affecting some part of FH next time the project is opened. My own days of computer programming are long past, but would welcome any feedback on my logic. I appreciate this discussion may be getting a bit technical for the list, and be of little interest to others, so feel free to contact me off-list if you think that would be easier. Bob

Perhaps this would be a good time to remind folks that there are training courses available :) I attended the "Intermediate/Advanced" training course run by Jane Taubman yesterday (Sunday) at Illminster, Somerset. I have to say that it was beyond excellent! It isn't until you meet Jane that you realise just how knowledgeable she is! The course was varied, detailed and very well presented in a beautiful venue. I can without reservation, recommend this to everyone. Thanks Jane, for a really great day!! Roger --- Roger Mitchell rdm@mfo.me.uk<mailto:rdm@mfo.me.uk> http://mfo.me.uk<http://mfo.me.uk/>

Well done Simon Potter, nice April fool, but no-one spotted it. You have to be of a certain age to appreciate the joke. Unless you actually have Hancock relatives from East Cheam!!! Clive Spratt -----Original Message----- From: family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Simon Potter Sent: 31 March 2012 21:18 To: family-historian-users@rootsweb.com Subject: [FHU] Addresses and Places The improved support for addresses in v5 has prompted me to confront the random format of the addresses and places in my GEDCOM of some 8000 people.   I’m confused about the relationship between Addresses and Places and would welcome any advice on best practice. My uncle Tony lived at 23 Railway Cuttings, East Cheam SM9 0MG.  Do I (A)   put the full address in the Address field and East Cheam in the place?  (or East Cheam, S urrey, England in the place).  Until now I’ve considered that a duplication and considered that one should (B)   not duplicate the place name in the address field but concatenate the address and place for the report template (i.e. the address is just 23 Railway Cuttings. My Methodist ancestry and instincts against profligacy had inclined me towards (B) but I’m now thinking that Address and Place are two separate fields which can be reported separately for different purposes and so the Address should also include the Place as in (A).  That would also enable you to include the postcode in the address without having to add it to the place.  Any comments?  Thank you in advance. Simon Potter ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

<<snipped>> My Methodist ancestry and instincts against profligacy had inclined me towards (B) but I’m now thinking that Address and Place are two separate fields which can be reported separately for different purposes and so the Address should also include the Place as in (A).  <<snipped>> See http://www.fhug.org.uk/wiki/doku.php?id=glossary:places for _a_ consensus on the FHUG recommendations. Best practice in IT would advise against duplication, if only because duplication eventually allows differences to creep in. However... You may find justifications for keeping full addresses, e.g. - where do you put the post-code if not in the full address, which therefore ought to be, ahem, full, to make sense? (If you have no use for the post-code because you're not going to send your 4G GF a letter, then you won't be impressed by that reasoning) - where do you put co-ordinates of various sorts to locate places on a map, other than in the full address? - if you want to maintain the _current_ location of somewhere as well as the historic , you need two data items, used subtly differently. In this case the excuse for two items is that they aren't duplicates. Personally, I'm still putting just "23 Railway Cuttings" in the address but I'm not using any co-ordinate systems to locate things on maps yet. Adrian B

You are by no means alone, Stewart Harverson. It is now 90 hours since I paid for the upgrade and received an email saying "you will shortly receive an email - you may already have received it"..telling me how to proceed. I note that my payment is not yet recorded on my credit card statement so I assume there is a massive backlog (?). And before anyone else suggest it, yes, I have checked my junk mail folder etc. Keith Houghton

This side thread could get out of hand, but as a former pipe-smoker I have asked my wife to have my ashes scattered on the living-room carpet. Another John. ----- Original Message ----- From: "John James" <john.wjames@which.net> To: <family-historian-users@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 1:45 AM Subject: Re: [FHU] Entering Marriage Details >> no-one is buried at their own address are they? lol! Hmm. I keep telling my better half that that's exactly what I do want; buried in the garden, vertically, with a tree planted on top ... Cue for an interesting side-thread? :-) John ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Well the missing email has just arrived! I am sure it was worth the wait! Thank you Calico Pie. Stewart

On 2 April 2012 05:00, Mike and Rona <mike_and_rona@internode.on.net> wrote: > Will there be a hard copy book printed with all the changes included > Several of the resellers sell printed copies of the book and in addition you can purchase one from the Calico Pie store which is printed using Lulu -- Jane. Jane Taubman | www.rjt.org.uk | www.taubman.org.uk |www.fhug.org.uk

Wish I knew about the Calico Pie version beforehand. Too late now Victor ------Original Message------ From: Jane Taubman Sender: family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com To: family-historian-users@rootsweb.com ReplyTo: family-historian-users@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FHU] family historian v5 Sent: 2 Apr 2012 09:22 On 2 April 2012 05:00, Mike and Rona <mike_and_rona@internode.on.net> wrote: > Will there be a hard copy book printed with all the changes included > Several of the resellers sell printed copies of the book and in addition you can purchase one from the Calico Pie store which is printed using Lulu -- Jane. Jane Taubman | www.rjt.org.uk | www.taubman.org.uk |www.fhug.org.uk ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device

Upgrade and New purchase emails are sent automatically and normally arrive in no more than an hour or two (unless you choose to pay Kagi/Paypal by Cheque or bank transfer, which take longer). If you don't receive your email please contact support@family-historian.co.uk and they will look in to the problem and re-send your license. I suspect they are probably a little overloaded with messages at the moment if the traffic levels on FHUG and the FHU mailling is anything to go by so, please give them a little time to respond. -- Jane. Jane Taubman | www.rjt.org.uk | www.taubman.org.uk |www.fhug.org.uk

Put in place name East Cheam in address field put 23 Railway Cottages. I would also add the county in the place name thus East Cheam, Surrey, England Victor Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device -----Original Message----- From: Simon Potter <simon.potter@yahoo.co.uk> Sender: family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 21:17:40 To: family-historian-users@rootsweb.com<family-historian-users@rootsweb.com> Reply-To: Simon Potter <simon.potter@yahoo.co.uk>, family-historian-users@rootsweb.com Subject: [FHU] Addresses and Places The improved support for addresses in v5 has prompted me to confront the random format of the addresses and places in my GEDCOM of some 8000 people.   I’m confused about the relationship between Addresses and Places and would welcome any advice on best practice. My uncle Tony lived at 23 Railway Cuttings, East Cheam SM9 0MG.  Do I (A)   put the full address in the Address field and East Cheam in the place?  (or East Cheam, S urrey, England in the place).  Until now I’ve considered that a duplication and considered that one should (B)   not duplicate the place name in the address field but concatenate the address and place for the report template (i.e. the address is just 23 Railway Cuttings. My Methodist ancestry and instincts against profligacy had inclined me towards (B) but I’m now thinking that Address and Place are two separate fields which can be reported separately for different purposes and so the Address should also include the Place as in (A).  That would also enable you to include the postcode in the address without having to add it to the place.  Any comments?  Thank you in advance. Simon Potter ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message