I have just upgraded from v4 to v5 and have a report of a number of things 'INFO ONLY' such as : l.10639 - INFO ONLY: Loaded uncategorised data (non-GEDCOM): "1 HIST @@N334@@" or HEAL etc which now rest as an item in the relevant persons properties on the expanded records view. What am I supposed to do with them please? Andrew

I migrated to FH from originally PAF. On looking back at it now there appears to be only one way of entering a locality (or place) which would include the address and the place. This seems strange as it is a Mormon program and so is Gedcom. I then tranferred to GenBox which has a 6 level structure of Local site/address, City/town/ Township, County/parish, State/province and Nation/area (American usage but easily adaptable to Britain). This means that all my names are full ones with both "address" and "place" combined. Having read all the postings regarding this I am questioning the need to change all my entries to show address and place separately. If I don't I do have some (much) duplication in reports.. But if I do it looks as if I would have to go through my database for every individual and do the changes manually. I can get lists of places in reports but cannot find any list which is editable. I ask myself is it worth it? What advice could I be given? Bob Warnock

Thank you, Adrian - a worthwhile point. John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Adrian Bruce" <abruce@madasafish.com> To: <family-historian-users@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 4:32 PM Subject: Re: [FHU] Addresses and Places Oh I agree with you about what to do - I just feel duty bound to point out the alternatives. Two observations though... <<snipped>> A lot of church records are sourced "Stone, St Michaels" and the like. <<snipped>> Not sure whether you meant to refer to the author on the Source record or the address of the event by that, but these are 2 different data items so could differ if you desired. I'd have "St Michael's" in the address of the event and "Stone, Staffs, England" in the place of the event. In the author on the Source record, I'd have "St Michael's, Stone, Staffs" because there's only the author name, not an address or place. (As an aside, I know I should be consistent with the possessive apostrophe or not, but while I say most of them with a possessive, some just don't sound right!) I think a pedantic archivist would insert the denomination in the author item but I seldom bother for CofE. Which brings me to the other point - nonconformist chapels can shift denomination over the years as churches merge or split. (Just try chasing Scots secession churches - you need a family tree for them!). It seems to me that the address of the event should contain the contemporary denomination for clarity - however, there's an argument that says the source record should have the same author as in the archive's catalogue and some of those are a bit of a concoction as they deliberately try to convey all the relevant denominations in one title. Again, your decision as to how easy you make the match between your data and the archive's catalogue. Adrian B ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I've been following all this, but my problem is a bit different. The mapping plugin doesn't recognise all my county codes - I'm using standard Chapman codes. Is there a solution? Martin

Oh I agree with you about what to do - I just feel duty bound to point out the alternatives. Two observations though... <<snipped>> A lot of church records are sourced "Stone, St Michaels" and the like. <<snipped>> Not sure whether you meant to refer to the author on the Source record or the address of the event by that, but these are 2 different data items so could differ if you desired. I'd have "St Michael's" in the address of the event and "Stone, Staffs, England" in the place of the event. In the author on the Source record, I'd have "St Michael's, Stone, Staffs" because there's only the author name, not an address or place. (As an aside, I know I should be consistent with the possessive apostrophe or not, but while I say most of them with a possessive, some just don't sound right!) I think a pedantic archivist would insert the denomination in the author item but I seldom bother for CofE. Which brings me to the other point - nonconformist chapels can shift denomination over the years as churches merge or split. (Just try chasing Scots secession churches - you need a family tree for them!). It seems to me that the address of the event should contain the contemporary denomination for clarity - however, there's an argument that says the source record should have the same author as in the archive's catalogue and some of those are a bit of a concoction as they deliberately try to convey all the relevant denominations in one title. Again, your decision as to how easy you make the match between your data and the archive's catalogue. Adrian B

Ian, I'm with you on this - as has been suggested earlier - each to his own, and if your method works for you it's fine. My only observation is that we seem to be making unnecessarily heavy weather of the whole issue in these discussions My family was centred on Stone, Staffordshire which figures as a PLACE in many contexts. As a child I lived with my Grandparents at 17 Abbey Street (an ADDRESS) and later with my Parents at 18 York Street, another ADDRESS. I don't want to bulk up the stored data by repeating "Stone Staffs" ad nauseam. In those days, there were no post codes, but if there had been, I would have attached them to the address - there are many ST15's in Stone. A lot of church records are sourced "Stone, St Michaels" and the like. I don't see it at all necessary to state that St Michael's is (as expected) in Church Street, there is only one such church and I would prefer to use its ecclesiastical nomen. It is of course in the place, Stone, and I therefore accept "Stone St Michaels" as sufficient address. Data for various purposes may be reported by combining address with place, or not, as required - a little extra work in structuring a report. This is occasional, and usually done only once. The gedcom file is always with us however, and I feel it is preferable to avoid duplication of data at all costs. I think this is why address and place are on separate footings. I'm having trouble with my gout - Chacun a son John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian Constable" <ian@haywain.net> To: <family-historian-users@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 5:45 PM Subject: Re: [FHU] Addresses and Places As far as I can see, GEDCOM 5.5 defines address_structure as everything from house number to country via postcode ("to enable mailing", i.e. contact submitters, holders of sources, etc.), and place as where whatever happened took place, from township up to state/country, for "jurisdiction" purposes (i.e. if you wanted to check it really happened, that's where you'd go to check the records). There is clearly overlap, and the standard admits as much, though its solution (taking address out of where it used to be in a place structure and putting both on an equal footing) doesn't seem to me to solve anything. However, that's their problem, not mine. I'm not interested in submitting or sealing or other aspects of the LDS' motivation in defining these terms. What I can see in FH (correct me if I'm wrong) is that every event and most attributes (e.g. education but not child_count) have both an address and a place field. So I'm going to put everything in Place (including, if need be, church name, cemetery name, etc.) except house number and street name. After all, on average I know a place more often than I know a full address. 27 of my ancestors were born in Over Wallop, but not a street name or house mumber between them. It may not be "right" but at least it'll be standardised. Well, once I've gone through every record and tidied things up...... Ian ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

There are a few ways to get more free storage for Dropbox, and you can pay for extra storage too. I also use Windows Live Mesh (WLM) with 5GB free. I believe, you should be able to synch any similarly named folders using whatever folder path you choose. WLM and FH V5 still don't agree, but it just gives a conflict message, and repeating the operation usually works OK. This is much improved over FH V4. Regards, Mike Tate -----Original Message----- From: family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Bruce Sent: 03 April 2012 14:31 To: family-historian-users@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FHU] RE Project folder location <<snipped>> Dropbox is free up to 2Gb which should be ample for most FH Projects unless you are storing many and very large media files in the Project folder. <<snipped>> I'm on 3.6 GB for 2,800 individuals - but I'm keeping all my censuses, PR images, downloaded directories etc. Sizewise, Dropbox is therefore out for me but I can sync my FH Project up into Windows Live Mesh and it'll sync from where my FH folder is, not from where Dropbox thinks I ought to put it. Though having said that, Live Mesh syncs it back on other machines into C:\Users\user-name. AND (I'm still on v4) Live Mesh and FH don't agree with one another when FH is writing back to disk and renaming stuff that Live Mesh is copying. I guess you pays your money for these services and takes your choice. Money? Oh, hang on... Adrian B

James, You will need to (download if necessary, and) install the V5 software on the laptop as well. You cannot use Dropbox to run software on a different machine. Your licence allows the use of FH on two machines for this purpose, as long as they're not in use concurrently. John

With Jane's help I was able to set up dropbox over a year ago as a method of backing up my project and being able to access my project either through my laptop or desktop. I have uploaded v5 successfully on my desktop and noted that dropbox now has v5 accessible via my desktop. In order to access v5 from my laptop should I download v5 onto my laptop using my 2nd licence? When accessing dropbox from my laptop I am unable to access v5 installed from my desktop which rather surprised me. I know that this demonstrates my very poor technical knowledge but would welcome advice. * * *James Pam*

<<snipped>> Dropbox is free up to 2Gb which should be ample for most FH Projects unless you are storing many and very large media files in the Project folder. <<snipped>> I'm on 3.6 GB for 2,800 individuals - but I'm keeping all my censuses, PR images, downloaded directories etc. Sizewise, Dropbox is therefore out for me but I can sync my FH Project up into Windows Live Mesh and it'll sync from where my FH folder is, not from where Dropbox thinks I ought to put it. Though having said that, Live Mesh syncs it back on other machines into C:\Users\user-name. AND (I'm still on v4) Live Mesh and FH don't agree with one another when FH is writing back to disk and renaming stuff that Live Mesh is copying. I guess you pays your money for these services and takes your choice. Money? Oh, hang on... Adrian B

I keep mine on 'Dropbox', with a Dropbox folder on both my lap top & desktop. That gives me three advantages. 1)Whichever machine I work on, I can be sure that the Project files in the Dropbox 'Cloud' are automatically, simultaneously and continually updated. 2) I can take my laptop anywhere (records offices, libraries or vaguely interested relatives!) and its copy of the Projects folder will always be the most up to date version - provided I have internet access or remember to turn the laptop on briefly before leaving home to synchronise the Dropbox 'Cloud'. When I return home and turn the laptop on, the Dropbox 'Cloud' copy of the Project folder will be automatically updated within seconds, with any changes I have made whilst away. 3) I have two backups of my Project folder in addition to the one on the Dropbox 'Cloud'; one on the laptop hard drive and one on the desktop hard drive. Either of these will be synchronised automatically within a few seconds of turning the machine on within range of an internet connection. I just have to be careful to avoid working on FH from two machines simultaneously; but that applies to any programme working with a single data file. Dropbox is free up to 2Gb which should be ample for most FH Projects unless you are storing many and very large media files in the Project folder. Digressing slightly, if you don't want to lug a laptop around and have the benefit of an iPad/iPod/iPhone then you can use a free application call GedView to view or edit a .ged file, which seems to work perfectly with FH generated .ged files; but you do have to manually synchronise with your computer. Barry On 3 Apr 2012, at 13:03, family-historian-users-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 09:00:25 +0100 > From: "John James" <john.wjames@which.net> > Subject: Re: [FHU] V5 installation > To: <family-historian-users@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <69502703A1A14AFD8154E02310041326@STUDY> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hi Martin, > > No. That's exactly what I do; in fact my Projects are in a dedicated folder on a different hard drive. I've never had a problem > because of it. > >> From what I've seen in the mailing lists, it seems not a few keep theirs on a memory stick, which makes it portable between > machines. > > HTH > > John

Hi Bob I use Virgin Backup and have found in the past that it interferes with other backups including Microsoft's and Mozy. The settings I have now cause Virgin Backup to update only when it starts. However, while it is starting up, it uses nearly 100% of my CPU and so for 5 minutes or so it is impossible to use the computer in any other way - including using the mouse or keyboard. So if it is active then it can prevent you pasting things. David Keetch

Thank you, Lorna. I have received help from FH support and they have been very patient with me, considering they just recently put out a new release. They asked me to send a small sample gedcom file with the media included so they could review it. They found that the media files in the Object Records from FTM used FILE rather than _FILE which FH requires. She did a find/replace to correct one of the records. I tried that on my own, but I still couldn't see the media records. So, to be honest, at this point, I gave up. I created a new project without any media in the gedcom file and as previous, FH did a very good job with the conversion. Then I manually added all the media related to one person. (I didn't do the linking because I didn't understand it at this point, but do now.) All I really wanted to do was be able to test out the program. I was very disappoint to see that although the photos looked very good, the census records were unreadable. When I view them in FTM or just from my hard drive, they are very clear and I have the option of zooming in or not. I couldn't find this feature in FH. I need to be able to view the records. So at this point, I'm not sure what I'm going to do. Thank you for trying to help. I appreciate your input and if I continue with FH, I will link my media instead of including it in the gedcom. Thanks, Nancy -----Original Message----- From: family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lorna Craig Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 12:25 PM To: family-historian-users@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FHU] Problem creating project from FTM Nancy, I haven't used FTM so can't give any advice about how best to transfer your media from FTM to FH, but I did notice one thing in your first message which might be significant. You said: "FTM gave me the option of including media in the gedcom file it was creating" I wonder if this means the media was actually embedded in the Gedcom? There are two methods of 'connecting' media to your records: one is to embed them in the Gedcom and the other is to link them to the Gedcom. The first method is not generally recommended as it makes the Gedcom file VERY large, but it is a valid technique. The second, recommended, method is to link your media to the gedcom, preferably first having stored them all in a designated folder, or a media folder with sub-folders for different categories, e.g. photos, census images, images of birth certificates, death certificates, etc. It is possible to 'expel' embedded media objects and convert them to linked ones. However without knowing exactly what the FTM export did with the media I can't help much further. If it did embed tham, it sounds as if FH still is not finding them. Perhaps someone with more knowledge of FTM can come to your aid. Lorna On 03/04/2012 13:03, Nancy Marty wrote: > Thanks for responding, Jane. > > In the Focus Window, I see a box representing each photo, for example, > that I had for that particular person. Then there is a large X from > corner to corner. It shows no Title and in the left column (sorry, I > don't know the names for things yet), when I select the all tab, it > just shows something like a directory for each entry, with the words > "no title". When I click on each of them, I eventually see the name of the person the photo was tied to. > > But I'd like to change my question, I think. I guess a better question > would be, for those of you who converted from other software > applications and didn't start from scratch, how did you add all of > your media? The data itself converts just fabulously. Did you have to > manually add your photos, one at a time, to each person? I have a very > small tree, but even the thought of trying to find where the photos > are now stored (some are on my hard drive, some were merged directly > from ancestry.com with their merge > feature) and manually adding say 500 media records drives me to trying > to see what others have done. The bulk of my photos were scanned by a > company and the file names they gave them are just a bunch of letters and numbers. > So I'd have to pull up a photo, see what it's a picture of then find > the person in FH and add it to them. If manually is the only way to do > it, I may still do it while my tree is fairly small. But I don't want > to do that without trying to see what others have done. > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks John. That's a relief. I do keep a backup on an external hard drive and a memory stick. Martin -----Original Message----- From: family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of John James Sent: 03 April 2012 09:00 To: family-historian-users@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FHU] V5 installation Hi Martin, No. That's exactly what I do; in fact my Projects are in a dedicated folder on a different hard drive. I've never had a problem because of it. >From what I've seen in the mailing lists, it seems not a few keep >theirs on a memory stick, which makes it portable between machines. HTH John ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Mike, Thanks for your suggestions. I think the best answer is to do as you say - exclude the main FH Projects folder from the Virgin backup, but include my FH Backups folder instead. Unfortunately my FH backups are made to a separate external hard drive, whilst the "free" version of Virgin Backup that I am using will only back up from the internal hard drive in my computer, so this would also involve me changing the place where I store my FH backups. On balance it is probably safer to do this than to simply rely on my external hard drive (on the basis that an off-site backup is safer than an on-site one), so that is my plan. As I mentioned in my earlier post today, excluding the FH projects folder from the backup appears to have resolved the issue, so I think there is at least a functioning workaround to this problem. I'm still perplexed that the manifestation of this issue is in the greying out of the Paste Fact(s) button, but will alert Calico Pie as you suggest. I'm always impressed at the level of expertise and help that this forum is able to give, so thanks again to all who have responded and helped pin down the issue. Bob Brock www.badger55.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: Beryl & Mike Tate Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 9:36 PM To: family-historian-users@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FHU] Pasting facts in v5 <<snippet>> You might be on the right track with this, so try suspending Virgin Media Backup and Storage while running FH and see if the Paste Fact(s) problem disappears. If that works, then let Calico Pie know, and they may be able to identify what folders/files (if any) are involved. The subsequent steps are to varied to predict, but may involve excluding certain data from Virgin Media, scheduling it differently, or using a different Backup strategy for FH. e.g. Use FH Backup to put FH data where Virgin Media can back it up, but exclude FH GEDCOM file &/or its folder. <<snippet>>

I don't have the 2012 version of FTM, but it sounds like it's recently added the export media in to it. Where are you seeing the blank boxes, if it's on the Focus Window if you look on the all tab do you have local media showing there? If so where does it say the files are? On 2 April 2012 20:45, Nancy Marty <nlmarty@comcast.net> wrote: > I'd really like to give this a good test, but don't want to have to > manually > add all my media to Family History if I can get around it. > -- Jane. Jane Taubman | www.rjt.org.uk | www.taubman.org.uk |www.fhug.org.uk

Hi Martin, No. That's exactly what I do; in fact my Projects are in a dedicated folder on a different hard drive. I've never had a problem because of it. >From what I've seen in the mailing lists, it seems not a few keep theirs on a memory stick, which makes it portable between machines. HTH John

Lorna, Thanks for asking. The problem is ONLY with pasting facts, not citations, so I think my mouse is OK! Good idea though!! The problem doesn't seem to go away even if I exit and re-launch FH. I am now pretty sure that I have traced the issue to a conflict between FH and Virgin Media Backup & Security (VMBS). I had VMBS set up to automatically synchronise my FH Projects folder with its remote backup; this seemed to clash with the autosave backup in FH and cause a "failure to save" pop-up to appear in FH. After this the Paste Facts button was greyed out in FH and I couldn't get it back. I've now stopped VMBS synchronising the FH Projects folder and everything seems to be working OK. There may be a minor bug in FH that causes Paste Facts to misbehave after a save fails, but at least now I have a workaround. Bob Brock www.badger55.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: Lorna Craig Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 8:57 PM To: family-historian-users@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FHU] Pasting facts in v5 Bob, Are you still having problems with this? (I realise you may have continued the discussion with Mike direct and it may now be resolved). Ignore this if you have now sorted the problem. Is it only copying and pasting facts that causes the problem, or is copying/pasting citations also a problem? When you have copied a fact are you able to paste it anywhere else, e.g. as text in a word document? I ask this because I just wondered whether there might be an intermittent fault with your left mouse button. This might mean the fact does not actually get copied, therefore the paste button will remain greyed out. (This is probably a crazy shot in the dark, I know!) Lorna On 02/04/2012 12:57, Bob Brock (general mail) wrote: > Mike - thanks for keeping with me on this one, and apologies for the > weekend > break!! > > << So when you open FH and open the Property Box Facts tab, the Copy > Fact(s) > button is enabled and the Paste Fact(s) button is greyed out.>> > > Correct > > << Hovering your cursor over the buttons gives the above button names as > the > popup tooltip?>> > > Correct > > << When you select a Fact does it matter which one you choose, or do all > behave the same? > If you choose a Family (red bullet) or Child (grey bullet) Fact and click > Copy Fact(s) button, what happens? > If you choose an Individual (blue bullet) Fact and click Copy Fact(s) > button, does the Paste Fact(s) button next to it immediately become active > or not? Or is it only when you switch to another Property Box does the > Paste > Fact(s) button become inactive?>> > > All the "blue bullet" facts I've tried (e.g. occupation, residence, birth, > baptism, education) behave the same - left-clicking on the Copy Fact(s) > button appears to have no effect and the Paste Fact(s) button remains > greyed > out. Occasionally the Paste Fact(s) button appears to flash yellow before > reverting to grey. > For "red bullet" and "grey bullet" facts I get a standard pop-up message > box > telling me that only "blue bullet" facts can be copied in this context. > Basically I cannot seem to get the Paste Fact(s) button to become active > at > all, and switching to another property box makes no difference. I've also > tried this by selecting individuals from the Individuals tab of the > Records > window and by selecting via the Focus window and this also makes no > difference. > > << You are not accidentally running two copies of FH at the same time by > any > chance, and switching from one to the other?>> > > I've been into Windows Task Manager and there is only one copy of FH.EXE > running. > > I've also tried validating the Gedcom file - which says there are no > errors > found. For interest my project has 9135 individuals and 2769 families, but > as mentioned previously I have the same issues in the sample project so > doubt that data is the cause of the problem. > > The fact that the problem briefly seemed to go away, confuses me. I always > have the problem when the first project I open is my own family project, > but > I sometimes don't have the problem when I open the sample project first. > Closing the sample project without saving and then opening my own project, > I > find I don't have the problem. > > When saving my project after making changes I sometimes get a message box > telling me the save process (probably due to conflict with another > program) > has failed and giving me the option to retry. In this case the other > program > is Virgin Media Backup and Storage which I have set up to automatically > back > up changed files to a remote server. If I ensure that Virgin's backup > completes before I retry my save within FH, then I don't seem to have the > problem when I re-open my project in FH. > > I'm thinking that the problem must lie with whatever FH does when a save > fails, or with the way either FH or Virgin Backup handles files being > simultaneously accessed by another program, and that whatever is happening > this is somehow affecting some part of FH next time the project is opened. > My own days of computer programming are long past, but would welcome any > feedback on my logic. > > I appreciate this discussion may be getting a bit technical for the list, > and be of little interest to others, so feel free to contact me off-list > if > you think that would be easier. > > Bob > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I am about to install V5. I run XP. I keep my Family Historian Projects folder in a separate place on the computer, not the default. Will this cause problems? Any advice welcome. Martin

I use Excel a lot in my research, both for recording data and for to do lists at archives, etc. If I want to sort into date order, I just create an additional column Sort Date, and enter it in the format YYYYMMDD, e.g. 19000201, 18000101, 15000607. That way it will always give me the correct date sequence - a lot to do in a large spreadsheet, I agree, but sometimes worth it to achieve the end!   Regards, Andrea ________________________________ From: Beryl & Mike Tate <post@tatewise.co.uk> To: family-historian-users@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, 3 April 2012, 0:10 Subject: Re: [FHU] Find Same Death Date OK George, you knew to format the dates as text, but they don't sort into date order. i.e. "1 Feb 1900" and "1 Jan 1800" and "1 Mar 1700" all come together followed by say "2 Apr 1600" and "20 Dec 1500". Because you are searching for two rows with the same date, they will come together OK. I just did not want anyone to get the impression that the dates will sort into date order. Regards, Mike Tate -----Original Message----- From: family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of George Bush Sent: 02 April 2012 22:46 To: FHUG Subject: Re: [FHU] Find Same Death Date I have tried this already and it did work if I formatted the whole column as text. However, it did miss the ones I was looking for but that was because the 2 siblings did not appear next to each other in the surname list. Good learning experience, though. George -------Original Message------- From: Beryl & Mike Tate Date: 02/04/2012 22:24:53 To: abruce@madasafish.com;  family-historian-users@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FHU] Find Same Death Date Unfortunately, that probably won't work because Excel and other Spreadsheets do not recognise dates before 1 Jan 1900 and treat them as text!!! See FHUG Forum thread for details http://www.fhug.org.uk/cgi-bin/index cgi?action=forum&board=v4use&op=display&num=4785 Regards, Mike Tate -----Original Message----- From: family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Bruce Sent: 02 April 2012 19:56 To: family-historian-users@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FHU] Find Same Death Date <<snipped>> Somewhere in my, or my wife's, tree are 2 brothers (not twins) who died either on the same day or within 24 hours of each other. I cannot for the life of me recall who they were so I wonder if it would be possible to construct a query to find them for me? <<snipped>> Not sure what you're like with spreadsheets, but I'd create a query to extract all males with a non-blank death date (or is it non-null???), sorted by surname then death date; export that to a spreadsheet; and create a new column whose value was "FOUNDIT" if the death date on this row matched the death date on the previous row. Then just do a search for "FOUNDIT". Yes, there are flaws - the 2 with the same name might not be brothers but it would find all such people so you can do a visual check on the tiny population found. Adrian B ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2114/4910 - Release Date: 04/02/12 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message