<<snipped>> I have been using XP since it was launched and now use it for my FH running on Parellels as a virtual machine on my Mac and on my Samsung net-boook (NC-10) when out and about. Dire warnings keep coming my way about the dangers of continuing to use XP after April 8th. <<snipped>> I would suggest that the practical nature of the danger depends on how you use the XP virtual machine on the Mac, ditto the Samsung. If you only use browser and email on the Mac side of the Mac - in effect if the *only* thing you use in Windows on the Mac is FH, then you are pretty much OK because you are pretty much insulated from any Windows-nasties coming at you from the internet. This means that if you download images from Ancestry or FMP or whatever (and it's the "whatever" that is the serious risk) then you should do so within a browser on the Mac side, *not* in a browser in XP. There is a risk that you could download a Windows nasty within your Mac browser that sits on the disk, waiting for the opportunity to be picked up by a Windows session. For that reason, you should run a security system on the Mac. As for the Sammy, well, again it depends on what you do with it. The safest thing would be not to use the internet or email on the Sammy. Adrian B PS - re a Mac version of FH - given the huge nature of rewriting the software plus the need to maintain 2 different versions doing the same thing, I'd rather Simon produced an Android version first! I suspect the market for that would be larger.

On 20 Mar 2014 17:27, David Gynes wrote: > I am by no stretch of the imagination a computer buff. I have been using XP > since it was launched and now use it for my FH running on Parellels as a > virtual machine on my Mac and on my Samsung net-boook (NC-10) when out and > about. > > Dire warnings keep coming my way about the dangers of continuing to use XP > after April 8th. My Samsung is too old to update to Win 8.1, I’m sure and a > new laptop/netbook is not in the budget. XP is not going to stop working simply because MS removes support. If you want to carry on using XP, then you can. It just won't be updated. Neither will Internet Explorer if you're a user of this thing. I would suggest that all XP die-hards switch to another browser if they're going to carry on using XP. At least that way, any security holes in the browser are likely to get fixed regardless of whether it's on an XP system or not. -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg

Thank you Jane. I'll put the two machines together, then I can read the instructions on the new one and find the file on the old one. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jane Taubman Sent: 21 March 2014 16:29 To: family-historian-users Subject: Re: [FHU] Transferring to new computer On 21 March 2014 16:09, Greenbee <[email protected]> wrote: > I've managed to transfer the custom ones OK, but please help for the > standard ones :). > You'll need to go into the Program data folder on the old computer and copy it out. There is a list of the different locations, based on your Windows version here: http://www.fhug.org.uk/wiki/doku.php?id=how_to:move_settings FYI: What I did once I got the file was copy it into the Custom directory and rename it to Jane's Standard and made sure it was ahead of the standard one in the fact set's list. -- Jane. Jane Taubman | www.rjt.org.uk | www.taubman.org.uk |www.fhug.org.uk ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

A little further information on SkyDrive/OneDrive. They had to change the name because B-Sky-B objected to SkyDrive. It is a free cloud file storage/synchronisation service from Microsoft. However, you can access it for free on any PC, Mac, Unix, iPad, Android, SmartPhone, etc whether Microsoft based or not. The basic free storage limit is 7GBytes, but if you also save iPad/Android photos you get another free 3GBytes. This can be supplemented by half a GByte for each person you refer it to and they sign in up to a total limit of 20GBytes. Thereafter you can pay for more storage. An automatic (as opposed to manual) file synchronisation tool is supported on most but not all platforms. e.g. Windows XP and Unix and Blackberry are not supported. See https://onedrive.live.com/about/en-gb/ Regards, Mike Tate -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]m] On Behalf Of Victor Markham Sent: 21 March 2014 17:26 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [FHU] XP's demise I have Windows 8.1 which is different from 8.0 and includes free Sky Drive with unlimited storage. At least that is what I think as I have found no details of it and I have moved my FH to Sky Drive (soon to be renamed One Drive) It took a bit of time to get used to and I am happy with Windows 8.1. Upgrading to 8.1 is free if you have 8.0 I also have One Drive on my mobile as an app which was free. My mobile is a Windows mobile 8.1 hence the free One Drive Victor On 21/03/2014 5:13 PM, John Brownsdon wrote: > When I first downloaded FH5 I was thinking of installing it on my > wife's Mac which is better than my current Windows system. I rang the > publishers and they told me it was a Windows only program, so I think > you are stuck with this system. All my friends say W8 is lousy but > something to replace it is due some time soon. Patience needed!. > > Regards John. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > David Gynes > Sent: 20 March 2014 15:27 > To: FHUG > Subject: [FHU] XP's demise > > I am by no stretch of the imagination a computer buff. I have been > using XP since it was launched and now use it for my FH running on > Parellels as a virtual machine on my Mac and on my Samsung net-boook > (NC-10) when out and about. > > Dire warnings keep coming my way about the dangers of continuing to > use XP after April 8th. My Samsung is too old to update to Win 8.1, > I'm sure and a new laptop/netbook is not in the budget. > > 2 questions please- Is there any chance of FH having a Mac version in > the very near future / ever? (I should have asked Simon when we were > chatting at WDYTYA?Live) > > If not - what do you computer experts recommend for my situation? > > I do NOT want to change from FH to a Mac based programme. > > David > > David Gynes > [email protected] > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have Windows 8.1 which is different from 8.0 and includes free Sky Drive with unlimited storage. At least that is what I think as I have found no details of it and I have moved my FH to Sky Drive (soon to be renamed One Drive) It took a bit of time to get used to and I am happy with Windows 8.1. Upgrading to 8.1 is free if you have 8.0 I also have One Drive on my mobile as an app which was free. My mobile is a Windows mobile 8.1 hence the free One Drive Victor On 21/03/2014 5:13 PM, John Brownsdon wrote: > When I first downloaded FH5 I was thinking of installing it on my wife's Mac > which is better than my current Windows system. I rang the publishers and > they told me it was a Windows only program, so I think you are stuck with > this system. All my friends say W8 is lousy but something to replace it is > due some time soon. Patience needed!. > > Regards John. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of David > Gynes > Sent: 20 March 2014 15:27 > To: FHUG > Subject: [FHU] XP's demise > > I am by no stretch of the imagination a computer buff. I have been using XP > since it was launched and now use it for my FH running on Parellels as a > virtual machine on my Mac and on my Samsung net-boook (NC-10) when out and > about. > > Dire warnings keep coming my way about the dangers of continuing to use XP > after April 8th. My Samsung is too old to update to Win 8.1, I'm sure and a > new laptop/netbook is not in the budget. > > 2 questions please- Is there any chance of FH having a Mac version in the > very near future / ever? (I should have asked Simon when we were chatting > at WDYTYA?Live) > > If not - what do you computer experts recommend for my situation? > > I do NOT want to change from FH to a Mac based programme. > > David > > David Gynes > [email protected] > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

When I first downloaded FH5 I was thinking of installing it on my wife's Mac which is better than my current Windows system. I rang the publishers and they told me it was a Windows only program, so I think you are stuck with this system. All my friends say W8 is lousy but something to replace it is due some time soon. Patience needed!. Regards John. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of David Gynes Sent: 20 March 2014 15:27 To: FHUG Subject: [FHU] XP's demise I am by no stretch of the imagination a computer buff. I have been using XP since it was launched and now use it for my FH running on Parellels as a virtual machine on my Mac and on my Samsung net-boook (NC-10) when out and about. Dire warnings keep coming my way about the dangers of continuing to use XP after April 8th. My Samsung is too old to update to Win 8.1, I'm sure and a new laptop/netbook is not in the budget. 2 questions please- Is there any chance of FH having a Mac version in the very near future / ever? (I should have asked Simon when we were chatting at WDYTYA?Live) If not - what do you computer experts recommend for my situation? I do NOT want to change from FH to a Mac based programme. David David Gynes [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

You don't say, but if you have FH V5 there is a Plugin call "Backup and Restore Family Historian Settings" that lets you easily transfer ALL customisations and preferences from PC to PC whether Custom or Standard. Mike Tate -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Greenbee Sent: 21 March 2014 16:10 To: [email protected] Subject: [FHU] Transferring to new computer I've had FH since v2 and along the way have been changing the wording in the facts sets, both custom and standard, to suit the sort of phraseology that I want to see in a narrative report. I've also changed pc's twice in this time, but now I can't remember for the life of me how to export the amended standard events and attributes to my new machine. I've managed to transfer the custom ones OK, but please help for the standard ones :).

On 21 March 2014 16:09, Greenbee <[email protected]> wrote: > I've managed to transfer the custom ones OK, but please help > for the standard ones :). > You'll need to go into the Program data folder on the old computer and copy it out. There is a list of the different locations, based on your Windows version here: http://www.fhug.org.uk/wiki/doku.php?id=how_to:move_settings FYI: What I did once I got the file was copy it into the Custom directory and rename it to Jane's Standard and made sure it was ahead of the standard one in the fact set's list. -- Jane. Jane Taubman | www.rjt.org.uk | www.taubman.org.uk |www.fhug.org.uk

I've had FH since v2 and along the way have been changing the wording in the facts sets, both custom and standard, to suit the sort of phraseology that I want to see in a narrative report. I've also changed pc's twice in this time, but now I can't remember for the life of me how to export the amended standard events and attributes to my new machine. I've managed to transfer the custom ones OK, but please help for the standard ones :).

Hi David, Microsoft continue to discover significant security holes in XP but those not fixed by 8th April will remain a security risk. It is claimed that XP is 6 times more risky than Windows 8. That applies whether it runs on its own PC or within a virtual PC such as Parallels. However, XP won't suddenly stop working and if you don't connect it to the Internet or load rogue CD/pen-drive software it poses no risk. With great care and caution and up-to-date anti-virus and Firewall software you may mitigate the online risks to some degree. The is NO likelihood of a Mac version of FH nor AS in the foreseeable future. However, it is likely that FH & AS will be usable with the Crossover & (free) Wine emulators. See the FHUG Knowledge Base article and Forum threads on recent progress. http://www.fhug.org.uk/wiki/doku.php?id=how_to:install_family_historian_with_crossover_wine http://www.fhug.org.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=10907 in its later pages. Regards, Mike Tate -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of David Gynes Sent: 20 March 2014 15:27 To: FHUG Subject: [FHU] XP's demise I am by no stretch of the imagination a computer buff. I have been using XP since it was launched and now use it for my FH running on Parellels as a virtual machine on my Mac and on my Samsung net-boook (NC-10) when out and about. Dire warnings keep coming my way about the dangers of continuing to use XP after April 8th. My Samsung is too old to update to Win 8.1, I'm sure and a new laptop/netbook is not in the budget. 2 questions please- Is there any chance of FH having a Mac version in the very near future / ever? (I should have asked Simon when we were chatting at WDYTYA?Live) If not - what do you computer experts recommend for my situation? I do NOT want to change from FH to a Mac based programme. David David Gynes [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

"I’m not sure I understand what is meant by Descriptor. Can someone explain, please? Is it a current field or a proposed field?" It is an existing standard GEDCOM field, but only visible in the All tab of the Property Box or in the Individual Records window. Right-click on any Fact and among others it offers 'Add Descriptor' which if selected provides a box to enter a value. This value can be used in Expressions in Diagrams, Queries, Reports, and Records Window Columns to display just your preferred Facts. In the Property Box that value has no effect in ordering the Facts and thus the earliest dated Fact will appear first and in the Main tab. (Assuming you have ticked Tools > Preferences > General > Enable automatic ordering of events/attributes by date.) This is where the Plugin could change the order based on the Descriptor values. Another technique that is not ideal but might suit you is to use Date Phrases. Date Phrases are ignored when sorting Facts by Date, they remain below any genuine Dates sorted in alphabetic order. So put all your Date details in the Date Phrase instead of an actual date, EXCEPT for the one preferred Date which is entered as normal. Then the genuine Date will remain as Fact[1] with the others below, although a little manual persuasion may be needed initially to get that effect. Regards, Mike Tate

What this means is that MS will neither look for nor fix any further bugs/problems with XP. (A friend of ours thought that XP would evaporate on the critical date.) MS 'support' has always been a bit patchy. It might be worth seeing if the old laptop can cope with Win7 which is still available from a number of suppliers (including Novatech, usual disclaimer). Watch out for older scanners and printers for which drivers aren't available for Win7. If not, just make sure that your firewall and anti-virus software is up to date (plenty of good free ones, eg Avast, AVG, ZoneAlarm) which still seem to be providing updates for XP versions. Of course, you won't get the latest Internet Explorer (some of us consider this a plus). If worried, switch to Firefox or similar, also still updating XP versions at time of writing. A reasonably modern Mac should be able to run Win7 in a virtual machine, or even Win 8 if you must. As Win7 can be tweaked to look and feel just like Win XP, it shouldn't be too bad running XP on a laptop and 7 in a virtual machine on the Mac. Bob

Wow. I seem to have started/re-opened something here. Thanks to everyone for being SO responsive, thoughtful and helpful. For myself, I only need to use a “1” or some other flag to ensure the fact I want comes at the top, so that my preferred (or most accurate) birth, marriage and death dates are the ones used for sorting and so on. Once that is done, all the other dates become mere observations and it really doesn’t matter to me what order they are in. If I can use a flag for a particular entry, I may well turn the automatic date sorting back on for the rest. Also, let's say that I have several observations and then find the actual date of birth. At that point, I don’t want to futz around with more than one flag for ordering purposes. Appreciate of course that others may have different needs. I’m not sure I understand what is meant by Descriptor. Can someone explain, please? Is it a current field or a proposed field? Regards Paul Howes www.howesfamilies.com From: Beryl and Mike Tate Sent: ‎Thursday‎, ‎March‎ ‎20‎, ‎2014 ‎2‎:‎47‎ ‎PM To: [email protected] I suggested ordinal numbers '1st' to '9th' for several reasons. (1) They would probably avoid conflict with any other use of the Descriptor. (2) I got the feeling that '1st' satisfied the main need and the rest were a bonus, and beyond '9th' was probably irrelevant. (3) Sorting on those works whether treated as numerical or textual. The danger of just allowing any digits is that they must all be the same length otherwise textual sorting would go 1, 10, 11, 100, 2, 23, 3, 300, so care must be taken in Queries, Columns, Plugins to convert to numerical format before sorting. I was expecting the user would set the Descriptor as they entered the data, and the Plugin would simply sort without any dialogue, just like the current FH re-ordering commands. However, I am happy to go with the majority. Regards, Mike Tate -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] Sent: 20 March 2014 18:04 Be good to standardise, but I don't see why a restriction of 9 is necessary or sufficient (you could have more than nine birth-dates for an individual from different sources, for example -- 8 censuses, a marriage and a baptism) -- why not just use numbers and order lowest to highest? That way somebody could choose to number 100, 200, 300 etc. and slip an entry in between 100 and 200 without needing to re-number anything. ColeValleyGirl www.colevalleygirl.co.uk Moderator, genealogy.stackexchange.com -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] Sent: 20 March 2014 17:55 May I suggest that the Descriptor values should be standardised on the ordinal numbers 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, ..., 9th. (Nine should be enough.) Then not only could a Plugin order the Facts in the Properties Box appropriately, but Fact Queries, and Record Window Columns could also filter and order the Facts according to the Descriptor. Regards, Mike Tate ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you Mike for pointing me in the right direction via FHUG Knowledge Base, I will give it a go tomorrow and let you know how I go on. Kind regards John On 20 Mar 2014, at 17:45, Beryl and Mike Tate <[email protected]> wrote: > John, how are you uploading? > Are dragging and dropping into the OneDrive web pages, or are you using the > installed OneDrive client program? > > If dragging and dropping then you need to create folders in OneDrive to > match the folders in your PC beforehand. > > If you download and install the OneDrive application, then you can keep the > whole Project folder structure in the OneDrive folder. Every changed file is > then automatically uploaded into the matching OneDrive folder, and folders > are created automatically. > This is more fully explained in the FHUG Knowledge Base at: > http://www.fhug.org.uk/wiki/doku.php?id=fhugdownloads:contents:microsoft_sky > drive > > Regards, Mike Tate > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of John Payne > Sent: 20 March 2014 17:27 > To: Family Historian > Subject: [FHU] Uploading to Skydrive now named Onedrive > > When I upload my Project files to Onedrive I am having difficulty attempting > to load in my separate folders, e.g. Family Churches, Family Pictures, > Census Years etc, it only appears to save as a block of individual files > linked on to the next block of individual files and so forth. > > John > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I suggested ordinal numbers '1st' to '9th' for several reasons. (1) They would probably avoid conflict with any other use of the Descriptor. (2) I got the feeling that '1st' satisfied the main need and the rest were a bonus, and beyond '9th' was probably irrelevant. (3) Sorting on those works whether treated as numerical or textual. The danger of just allowing any digits is that they must all be the same length otherwise textual sorting would go 1, 10, 11, 100, 2, 23, 3, 300, so care must be taken in Queries, Columns, Plugins to convert to numerical format before sorting. I was expecting the user would set the Descriptor as they entered the data, and the Plugin would simply sort without any dialogue, just like the current FH re-ordering commands. However, I am happy to go with the majority. Regards, Mike Tate -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] Sent: 20 March 2014 18:04 Be good to standardise, but I don't see why a restriction of 9 is necessary or sufficient (you could have more than nine birth-dates for an individual from different sources, for example -- 8 censuses, a marriage and a baptism) -- why not just use numbers and order lowest to highest? That way somebody could choose to number 100, 200, 300 etc. and slip an entry in between 100 and 200 without needing to re-number anything. ColeValleyGirl www.colevalleygirl.co.uk Moderator, genealogy.stackexchange.com -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] Sent: 20 March 2014 17:55 May I suggest that the Descriptor values should be standardised on the ordinal numbers 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, ..., 9th. (Nine should be enough.) Then not only could a Plugin order the Facts in the Properties Box appropriately, but Fact Queries, and Record Window Columns could also filter and order the Facts according to the Descriptor. Regards, Mike Tate

On 20 March 2014 18:13, Brian Horridge <[email protected]>wrote: > If the > plug-in did all records, one could confidently use the "Re-order > out-of-date" function and then re-run the plug-in to restore all to the > preferred sequence. > I would envision two plugins (or 1 with 2 functions), one to reorder all records, or a single record and one to set the preferred order for the events. -- Jane. Jane Taubman | www.rjt.org.uk | www.taubman.org.uk |www.fhug.org.uk

Jane > Personally I wonder if the full blown ordering is more than most people > would want to enter. I was thinking a simple preference setting plugin to > select a person list all the events and allow a single one in each group > to > be ticked would work well for this, but if people want to set the > complete > sequence that's a bit more of a complex entry. Surely, if a user used the global "Re-order out-of-date" function, the individual bits of information would be set by date order which may not be the order wanted by the user (or as changed by using the plug-in). If the plug-in did all records, one could confidently use the "Re-order out-of-date" function and then re-run the plug-in to restore all to the preferred sequence. Brian

Be good to standardise, but I don't see why a restriction of 9 is necessary or sufficient (you could have more than nine birth-dates for an individual from different sources, for example -- 8 censuses, a marriage and a baptism) -- why not just use numbers and order lowest to highest? That way somebody could choose to number 100, 200, 300 etc. and slip an entry in between 100 and 200 without needing to re-number anything. ColeValleyGirl www.colevalleygirl.co.uk Moderator, genealogy.stackexchange.com -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Beryl and Mike Tate Sent: 20 March 2014 17:55 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [FHU] Ordering of events by date This capability has been requested before in the FHUG Forums, and I thought there was Wish List entry, but cannot find one. May I suggest that the Descriptor values should be standardised on the ordinal numbers 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, ..., 9th. (Nine should be enough.) Then not only could a Plugin order the Facts in the Properties Box appropriately, but Fact Queries, and Record Window Columns could also filter and order the Facts according to the Descriptor. Eventually, FH might take over the role from the Plugin. What say you all? Regards, Mike Tate

On 20 March 2014 17:55, Beryl and Mike Tate <[email protected]> wrote: > and I thought there was Wish List entry, but cannot find one. > There is http://www.fhug.org.uk/wishlist/wldisplay.php?wlwlref=11 Personally I wonder if the full blown ordering is more than most people would want to enter. I was thinking a simple preference setting plugin to select a person list all the events and allow a single one in each group to be ticked would work well for this, but if people want to set the complete sequence that's a bit more of a complex entry. -- Jane. Jane Taubman | www.rjt.org.uk | www.taubman.org.uk |www.fhug.org.uk

This capability has been requested before in the FHUG Forums, and I thought there was Wish List entry, but cannot find one. May I suggest that the Descriptor values should be standardised on the ordinal numbers 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, ..., 9th. (Nine should be enough.) Then not only could a Plugin order the Facts in the Properties Box appropriately, but Fact Queries, and Record Window Columns could also filter and order the Facts according to the Descriptor. Eventually, FH might take over the role from the Plugin. What say you all? Regards, Mike Tate -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Paul Howes Sent: 20 March 2014 16:58 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [FHU] Ordering of events by date Thank you. I have turned off the auto re-ordering. Will see how it goes. Paul Howes www.howesfamilies.com From: Jane Taubman Sent: ?Thursday?, ?March? ?20?, ?2014 ?11?:?27? ?AM On 20 March 2014 15:20, Brian Horridge <[email protected]>wrote: > Could the "Descriptor" be a generic one that could be used in all records Yes, the field exists on all events, but you would need to use the plugin to reorder the events or do it manually, but you could probably use it directly on diagrams etc with out worrying about the order, by using the descriptor to select event to show. Jane.