I think we need to get back to Karen’s original query and expression of frustration with her present setup, especially as a native Mac version of FH seems unlikely to be realised in the foreseeable future. On 18 Jul 2014, at 15:36, GARDNER KAREN via <[email protected]> wrote: > "I am getting increasingly frustrated with running parallels on my mac and various computer glitches that I am seriously looking at getting Mac specific software and taking out the partition. I dont want to lose the features of FH, but my sanity is struggling a bit. Whilst alternative software suggestions are obviously intended to be helpful, all would introduce significantly different ways of working and also result in a loss of at least some of the features of FH, e.g. plugins and Ancestral Sources input if those are highly valued. Having used Macs for several years now and also having run Family Historian on Macs in Windows installations (7, 8 and 8.1) using both Parallels and more recently VirtualBox I can honestly say I have experienced no problems whatsoever. Would I like to get rid of Windows entirely? - Yes, but I have not (yet) found any Mac Genealogy program which offers the same range of features/facilities/flexibility as FH and, unfortunately, there are also some other Windows programs I still want/need to run . Karen: I would really like to know what specific frustrations you are experiencing with your Parallels/Windows/FH setup. The fact that you believe Parallels uses a separate partition on your Mac, which it doesn’t unless you originally installed Windows using the Mac’s Bootcamp facility, suggests that you are not running OS X and Windows in Parallels Coherence Mode and I can certainly understand some frustration with the setup if your Windows and Mac Documents and data are isolated from each other. With reference to thoughts on Crossover/Wine installations, I have trialled Crossover in the past and unless you wish to pay another annual licence fee for a program that cannot guarantee a successful installation of the software you want to run, I cannot see the attraction when you already have a full Windows Licence. I have successfully installed and extensively tested FH Version 2 and 3 in Wine (using the ‘free’ Mac program Wineskin), but have not yet achieved a satisfactory working installation of either FH Version 4 or 5. Ancestral Sources does work in Wine but can, in my experience, be a bit ‘flaky’ in operation when it comes to input/responsiveness. At the end of your deliberations, if you really want to consider Mac alternatives, the closest alternative commercial Genealogy program to FH, in my opinion, for anyone who wants a similar experience and a native Gedcom database would be GEDitCOM II. There is also an open source programme called Ancestris with an interface which looks amazingly like FH and uses a native Gedcom databse, but that is still in beta and has been for a long time. Gramps (mentioned below) is also a comprehensive free open source alternative, but is very different in use. It can import/export Gedcom but uses its own database format; and yes, there are versions for Mac OS X, Windows and Linux. Mervyn Ashby

I am a bit reluctant to join in here since I do not own a Mac but have any of you tried Gramps which is open source and has versions for Windows, Linux & Mac OSX. David On 18/07/2014 18:56, Karen via wrote: > Thanks les, > > Have been playing around with the trial version, and generally like it. It's let down that I have discovered so far though is the way it records census records - badly (in a word). > > Sent from my iPad > >> On 18 Jul 2014, at 18:38, "Leslie Brown" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Karen, >> >> FH is certainly my main programme but try MacFamily Tree which I have on a >> MacBook Air. >> >> Regards >> Les Brown >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of GARDNER >> KAREN via >> Sent: 18 July 2014 18:13 >> To: Andrew Jolly; [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [FHU] Future Mac version? >> >> Had it not been for FH I would have done Andrew. I am just yet to find a >> program for the mac with the same functionality >> >> >> On 18 July 2014 18:02, Andrew Jolly via <[email protected] >>> wrote: >>> Yes but the whole point of a mac is to get shot of Windows! >>> >>> Andrew >>> >>> -- >>> Sent from my mobile so message may be brief! >>> >>>> On 18 Jul 2014, at 17:42, Jane Taubman via < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> With regard to running on Mac, have either of you reviewed the >>>> latest >>> work >>>> done on the User group site about using FH under CrossOver for Mac? >>>> >>>> >>> http://www.fhug.org.uk/wiki/doku.php?id=how_to:install_family_historia >>> n_with_crossover_wine >>>> There are also several useful posts in the Forums, just search for >>>> Mac >>>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com

Thanks les, Have been playing around with the trial version, and generally like it. It's let down that I have discovered so far though is the way it records census records - badly (in a word). Sent from my iPad > On 18 Jul 2014, at 18:38, "Leslie Brown" <[email protected]> wrote: > > Karen, > > FH is certainly my main programme but try MacFamily Tree which I have on a > MacBook Air. > > Regards > Les Brown > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of GARDNER > KAREN via > Sent: 18 July 2014 18:13 > To: Andrew Jolly; [email protected] > Subject: Re: [FHU] Future Mac version? > > Had it not been for FH I would have done Andrew. I am just yet to find a > program for the mac with the same functionality > > > On 18 July 2014 18:02, Andrew Jolly via <[email protected] >> wrote: > >> Yes but the whole point of a mac is to get shot of Windows! >> >> Andrew >> >> -- >> Sent from my mobile so message may be brief! >> >>> On 18 Jul 2014, at 17:42, Jane Taubman via < >> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> With regard to running on Mac, have either of you reviewed the >>> latest >> work >>> done on the User group site about using FH under CrossOver for Mac? >>> >>> >> http://www.fhug.org.uk/wiki/doku.php?id=how_to:install_family_historia >> n_with_crossover_wine >>> >>> There are also several useful posts in the Forums, just search for >>> Mac >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Karen, FH is certainly my main programme but try MacFamily Tree which I have on a MacBook Air. Regards Les Brown -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of GARDNER KAREN via Sent: 18 July 2014 18:13 To: Andrew Jolly; [email protected] Subject: Re: [FHU] Future Mac version? Had it not been for FH I would have done Andrew. I am just yet to find a program for the mac with the same functionality On 18 July 2014 18:02, Andrew Jolly via <[email protected] > wrote: > Yes but the whole point of a mac is to get shot of Windows! > > Andrew > > -- > Sent from my mobile so message may be brief! > > > On 18 Jul 2014, at 17:42, Jane Taubman via < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > With regard to running on Mac, have either of you reviewed the > > latest > work > > done on the User group site about using FH under CrossOver for Mac? > > > > > http://www.fhug.org.uk/wiki/doku.php?id=how_to:install_family_historia > n_with_crossover_wine > > > > There are also several useful posts in the Forums, just search for > > Mac > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Had it not been for FH I would have done Andrew. I am just yet to find a program for the mac with the same functionality On 18 July 2014 18:02, Andrew Jolly via <[email protected] > wrote: > Yes but the whole point of a mac is to get shot of Windows! > > Andrew > > -- > Sent from my mobile so message may be brief! > > > On 18 Jul 2014, at 17:42, Jane Taubman via < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > With regard to running on Mac, have either of you reviewed the latest > work > > done on the User group site about using FH under CrossOver for Mac? > > > > > http://www.fhug.org.uk/wiki/doku.php?id=how_to:install_family_historian_with_crossover_wine > > > > There are also several useful posts in the Forums, just search for Mac > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Yes but the whole point of a mac is to get shot of Windows! Andrew -- Sent from my mobile so message may be brief! > On 18 Jul 2014, at 17:42, Jane Taubman via <[email protected]> wrote: > > With regard to running on Mac, have either of you reviewed the latest work > done on the User group site about using FH under CrossOver for Mac? > > http://www.fhug.org.uk/wiki/doku.php?id=how_to:install_family_historian_with_crossover_wine > > There are also several useful posts in the Forums, just search for Mac >

John, my main usage was family research too, but i was getting fed up of keep replacing my pc every couple of years (and i was given the money for my mac - which i love!) Thanks Jane, I will do. On 18 July 2014 17:42, Jane Taubman via <[email protected] > wrote: > With regard to running on Mac, have either of you reviewed the latest work > done on the User group site about using FH under CrossOver for Mac? > > > http://www.fhug.org.uk/wiki/doku.php?id=how_to:install_family_historian_with_crossover_wine > > There are also several useful posts in the Forums, just search for Mac > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

With regard to running on Mac, have either of you reviewed the latest work done on the User group site about using FH under CrossOver for Mac? http://www.fhug.org.uk/wiki/doku.php?id=how_to:install_family_historian_with_crossover_wine There are also several useful posts in the Forums, just search for Mac

I agree with you, I have had a lot of problems on my MacBook Pro running Parallels 9 with Windows 8.1, this week I lost all my Contacts after a Parallels update, in some respects I regret the change over to the Mac, my main usage is family history, I too am seriously thinking of dumping Family Historian for a Mac related software. I can well sympathise with you. John On 18 Jul 2014, at 15:36, GARDNER KAREN via <[email protected]> wrote: > Afternoon, > > I know this has been asked before, and I apologise for asking again, but I > wandered if there are any future plans for a Mac version? I am getting > increasingly frustrated with running parallels on my mac and various > computer glitches that I am seriously looking at getting Mac specific > software and taking out the partition. > I dont want to lose the features of FH, but my sanity is struggling a bit. > > Thank you (and sorry for asking again) > Karen > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Afternoon, I know this has been asked before, and I apologise for asking again, but I wandered if there are any future plans for a Mac version? I am getting increasingly frustrated with running parallels on my mac and various computer glitches that I am seriously looking at getting Mac specific software and taking out the partition. I dont want to lose the features of FH, but my sanity is struggling a bit. Thank you (and sorry for asking again) Karen

Thanks Mike -----Original Message----- From: Beryl & Mike Tate Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2014 9:26 AM To: 'Fiona Hall' ; [email protected] Subject: RE: [FHU] Resident Fact Hi, Those Residence Facts are being automatically added by AS not FH. If you do not want them then do NOT fill in the Residence boxes in AS. Alternatively, in FH the Report Options let you selectively inhibit any type of Fact such as Residence. This just excludes them from Reports but retains that useful information in your Project data. Regards, Mike Tate -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Fiona Hall via Sent: 17 July 2014 00:48 To: [email protected] Subject: [FHU] Resident Fact Hi I would like to turn off the resident in fact which is added automatically whenever an event occurs – is this possible? For example when a child is baptised the parents get a ‘resident in’ fact added which makes reports read very strangely and become very long. At the moment I am having to delete them individually. I have been using Ancestral Sources to add in burial and baptism information and a ‘resident in’ fact is generated which is sometimes for the day after death.... But I might be doing something wrong there!

Thanks Jane I have posted there now Fiona From: Jane Taubman Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2014 7:55 AM To: Fiona Hall ; family-historian-users Subject: Re: [FHU] Resident Fact On 17 July 2014 00:47, Fiona Hall via <[email protected]> wrote: I have been using Ancestral Sources to add in burial and baptism information and a ‘resident in’ fact is generated which is sometimes for the day after death.... But I might be doing something wrong there! As you are using AS to enter the information you need to customise the settings in that as Residence facts are added in AS and not automatically by Family Historian. For Ancestral Sources questions it's best to ask on the FHUG site. -- Jane. Jane Taubman | www.rjt.org.uk | www.taubman.org.uk |www.fhug.org.uk

Hi, Those Residence Facts are being automatically added by AS not FH. If you do not want them then do NOT fill in the Residence boxes in AS. Alternatively, in FH the Report Options let you selectively inhibit any type of Fact such as Residence. This just excludes them from Reports but retains that useful information in your Project data. Regards, Mike Tate -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Fiona Hall via Sent: 17 July 2014 00:48 To: [email protected] Subject: [FHU] Resident Fact Hi I would like to turn off the resident in fact which is added automatically whenever an event occurs – is this possible? For example when a child is baptised the parents get a ‘resident in’ fact added which makes reports read very strangely and become very long. At the moment I am having to delete them individually. I have been using Ancestral Sources to add in burial and baptism information and a ‘resident in’ fact is generated which is sometimes for the day after death.... But I might be doing something wrong there!

On 17 July 2014 00:47, Fiona Hall via <[email protected]> wrote: > I have been using Ancestral Sources to add in burial and baptism > information and a ‘resident in’ fact is generated which is sometimes for > the day after death.... But I might be doing something wrong there! As you are using AS to enter the information you need to customise the settings in that as Residence facts are added in AS and not automatically by Family Historian. For Ancestral Sources questions it's best to ask on the FHUG site. -- Jane. Jane Taubman | www.rjt.org.uk | www.taubman.org.uk |www.fhug.org.uk

Hi I would like to turn off the resident in fact which is added automatically whenever an event occurs – is this possible? For example when a child is baptised the parents get a ‘resident in’ fact added which makes reports read very strangely and become very long. At the moment I am having to delete them individually. I have been using Ancestral Sources to add in burial and baptism information and a ‘resident in’ fact is generated which is sometimes for the day after death.... But I might be doing something wrong there! Thanks

Hi Sheena, How did you customise your Text Scheme? Did you choose one of the Standard Text Schemes and modify it or what? Open the Diagram Options Text tab and click Edit for your Text Scheme. What "Items Used in This Text Scheme" are listed on the right? If any "<== ... Notes" are mentioned then remove that item. If that does not fix it, then go through each item and click Edit and check the "NOTE2" tag does not appear in any "Template" at the top. Regards, Mike Tate -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sheena Harling via Sent: 16 July 2014 20:57 To: [email protected] Subject: [FHU] Diagram Problem Hi, I am preparing an Ancestors Diagram for printing. One of my ancestors boxes contains notes which I do not want in the text scheme and I cannot get rid of them! I have set the text scheme just to contain Birth, Marriage and Death dates, plus Occupation. All the other boxes are fine. How do I get rid of the extra information in this one box? I have already tried deleting the notes in his property box but that did not work. I would like to try a box-less layout but cannot find how to do that either. Help, please. Sheena

To answer the last question first: to get a box-less layout, use Diagram Options > Boxes tab and click the Presets button near the bottom right. Select 'No Box' from the drop-down menu. Click OK when asked if you want to replace existing box conditions, then click OK again in the Boxes tab. (Warning: if you have previously customised your box style and don't want to lose the customisation, fist UNTICK 'Save as Default' in the Boxes tab, or make sure you have saved a your existing set up as a custom diagram type). The appearance of the notes in one of the boxes is odd. Are you sure you clicked OK or Apply, after selecting your text scheme? Even if you didn't, the notes should disappear when you delete them from the individual's Property box. Have you perhaps set up flag condition to include a line of text for this individual? Lorna On 16/07/2014 20:57, Sheena Harling via wrote: > Hi, > I am preparing an Ancestors Diagram for printing. > One of my ancestors boxes contains notes which I do not want in the text > scheme and I cannot get rid of them! > I have set the text scheme just to contain Birth, Marriage and Death dates, > plus Occupation. All the other boxes are fine. How do I get rid of the > extra information in this one box? I have already tried deleting the notes > in his property box but that did not work. > I would like to try a box-less layout but cannot find how to do that either. > Help, please. >

Hi, I am preparing an Ancestors Diagram for printing. One of my ancestors boxes contains notes which I do not want in the text scheme and I cannot get rid of them! I have set the text scheme just to contain Birth, Marriage and Death dates, plus Occupation. All the other boxes are fine. How do I get rid of the extra information in this one box? I have already tried deleting the notes in his property box but that did not work. I would like to try a box-less layout but cannot find how to do that either. Help, please. -- Sheena

On 14 Jul 2014 09:16, [email protected] wrote: > In the meantime, when replying to messages on the list, you will need to > ensure your replies are directed [email protected] as > you may well find that your email client will reply direct to the person > posting and not to the list. If using TBird, use the Reply to List button. -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg

Jane With the changes messages from Rootsweb and Yahoo groups no longer show the senders address plus when prompted the reply button it only goes to the list. This happens whether you prompt 'reply' or 'reply to the list' Yorksgen was the first list that members have encountered this and members of that group have been waiting to see if it happens to other groups too. FHUG is the next group (to me) to show it has. My email address does not use either AOL or Yahoo. The Yahoo email group I belong to have had the senders address blocked for the past few weeks. I am list admin for a few rootsweb groups and am waiting for messages to those to see if this also happens there. Victor On 14/07/2014 8:16 AM, [email protected] wrote: > I have taken a look at the Admin list for Rootsweb and the changes to the > >From address, appear to be in response to problems with the AOL and Yahoo > mail servers, which were blocking Rootsweb as Spam. > > There is no word on if this is a permanent change or not, but I will keep > an eye on the list. > > In the meantime, when replying to messages on the list, you will need to > ensure your replies are directed at [email protected] as > you may well find that your email client will reply direct to the person > posting and not to the list. > >