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John, There is a Plugin available from the FHUG that will insert those missing Parent-Child Relationship Citations. See http://www.fhug.org.uk Forum > Importing and Exporting > Import from TMG - Missing Some Citations. Regards, Mike Tate -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of John Liddle via Sent: 18 October 2014 14:29 To: [email protected] Subject: [FHU] ADDENDUM - TMG transfer to FH - Missing source citations - Potential solution When I said that all source citations were honoured, I should have course made it clear that this excludes those citations known never to transfer (e.g. Parent - Child relationship). Apologies for any confusion. Best Wishes, John Liddle Backwell, North Somerset, UK - "Where the cider apples grow"
Hi John, Could you post that information to the FHUG where the full details are more easily retrieved from the Knowledge Base than searching FHU Mailing List Rootsweb archive. See http://www.fhug.org.uk Regards, Mike Tate -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of John Liddle via Sent: 18 October 2014 13:49 To: [email protected] Subject: [FHU] TMG transfer to FH - Missing source citations - Potential solution I have been experimenting with transferring data from TMG to FH using Direct Import and (like a considerable number of others) have run into the problem of source citations not being honoured in the transfer. I found that in the transfer of a test project (a subset of my main project) which had 137 associated sources and 731 citations to those sources, although all 137 sources transferred, only 562 citations to them were evident when I counted them in the sources window in FH (this despite the fact that the FH import progress bar indicated that all 731 citations had been transferred). In trying to resolve this, I have stumbled upon an apparent solution which I am happy to share. In essence (detailed steps can be provided if needed) I have created a blank TMG project and then merged my existing test project into it and BINGO! all source citations are then honoured by the direct import. The only conclusion I can draw is that despite the "Optimise" and "Verify File Integrity" maintenance routines in TMG, umpty-ump years of data editing means that there are redundant elements left in the data file which can confuse the import process and which the project merge process in TMG strips out. I would be interested to hear from anyone else who tries this. Regards, John Liddle Backwell, North Somerset, UK - "Where the cider apples grow"
When I said that all source citations were honoured, I should have course made it clear that this excludes those citations known never to transfer (e.g. Parent - Child relationship). Apologies for any confusion. Best Wishes, John Liddle Backwell, North Somerset, UK - "Where the cider apples grow"
I have been experimenting with transferring data from TMG to FH using Direct Import and (like a considerable number of others) have run into the problem of source citations not being honoured in the transfer. I found that in the transfer of a test project (a subset of my main project) which had 137 associated sources and 731 citations to those sources, although all 137 sources transferred, only 562 citations to them were evident when I counted them in the sources window in FH (this despite the fact that the FH import progress bar indicated that all 731 citations had been transferred). In trying to resolve this, I have stumbled upon an apparent solution which I am happy to share. In essence (detailed steps can be provided if needed) I have created a blank TMG project and then merged my existing test project into it and BINGO! all source citations are then honoured by the direct import. The only conclusion I can draw is that despite the "Optimise" and "Verify File Integrity" maintenance routines in TMG, umpty-ump years of data editing means that there are redundant elements left in the data file which can confuse the import process and which the project merge process in TMG strips out. I would be interested to hear from anyone else who tries this. Regards, John Liddle Backwell, North Somerset, UK - "Where the cider apples grow"
Hi Mike Many thanks for plugin suggestion. I will check it out further and will certainly update the information to the forum when Calico Pie reply. I have been running some of my data on FH for some time in tandem so to speak with TMG, but have not been happy to make a complete switch so far. I have always kept up to date with the latest version of FH. No doubt there will be some more improvements to the FH/TMG direct project import in time. I will feel happy when I can transfer enough data correctly, and leave myself with a manageable amount to check and/or add. Hopefully that will happen soon, as I want to enter more info; but obviously not into TMG. Regards Ray Wigzell On 17 October 2014 11:39, Beryl & Mike Tate via < [email protected]> wrote: > Hi Ray, > There is a similar problem with Source Citations attached to Relationships > in TMG not being transferred to FH. > To solve that problem, I have written a Plugin that uses a TMG Citations > Report to create the missing FH Citations. > A similar Plugin technique, using the same Citations Report, could create > the missing FH Citations for Notes. > Since both the Notes and the Sources exist in FH it is relatively > straightforward. > See FHUG Forum > Importing and Exporting > Import from TMG - Missing Some > Citations: > http://www.fhug.org.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=11462 > > There is a growing band of TMG users wanting to migrate to FH. > Calico Pie have made recent improvements to the FH V5 TMG Import feature. > So they are clearly interested in resolving these issues. > Can you disclose their reply to the report you sent? > > Regards, Mike Tate > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto: > [email protected]] On Behalf Of Ray Wigzell via > Sent: 15 October 2014 11:35 > To: Jane Taubman; [email protected] > Subject: Re: [FHU] TMG Refugees list > > Hi > I have another problem that is stopping me from moving my TMG data to FH > (which I have wanted to do for some while) > > I noticed that sources/citations attached to Notes in TMG will not > transfer to FH correctly. I have well over a hundred Notes (tags > in TMG) attached to individuals and most have a source but even though the > note imports to FH and is listed in View/Standard > Queries/Source Records, the source reference or citation is missing. > This has been discussed on the forum and reported . > Ray > > On 14 October 2014 16:05, Jane Taubman via < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > On 13 October 2014 20:21, John Liddle via < > > [email protected]com> wrote: > > > > > One of the worries many TMG users are expressing is the ability (or > > > otherwise) of the importing program to faithfully copy their TMG > > > Person > > ID > > > numbers > > > > > > > Thanks for the head's up on the list. I'll pass it on. As far as I > know > > as long as the IDs are numeric they will be retained. > > > > > > -- > > Jane. > > > > Jane Taubman | www.rjt.org.uk | www.taubman.org.uk |www.fhug.org.uk > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
On 17 October 2014 13:11, Jeff Parton via < [email protected]> wrote: > Please, just to satisfy my curiosity, can someone tell me what TMG stands > for? > "The Master Genealogist", which is an old program which has just gone out of development and many of it's users are now looking for a new home for their research. -- Jane. Jane Taubman | www.rjt.org.uk | www.taubman.org.uk |www.fhug.org.uk
Please, just to satisfy my curiosity, can someone tell me what TMG stands for? Jeff -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Beryl & Mike Tate via Sent: 17 October 2014 11:39 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [FHU] TMG Refugees list Hi Ray, There is a similar problem with Source Citations attached to Relationships in TMG not being transferred to FH. To solve that problem, I have written a Plugin that uses a TMG Citations Report to create the missing FH Citations. A similar Plugin technique, using the same Citations Report, could create the missing FH Citations for Notes. Since both the Notes and the Sources exist in FH it is relatively straightforward. See FHUG Forum > Importing and Exporting > Import from TMG - Missing Some Citations: http://www.fhug.org.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=11462 There is a growing band of TMG users wanting to migrate to FH. Calico Pie have made recent improvements to the FH V5 TMG Import feature. So they are clearly interested in resolving these issues. Can you disclose their reply to the report you sent? Regards, Mike Tate -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ray Wigzell via Sent: 15 October 2014 11:35 To: Jane Taubman; [email protected] Subject: Re: [FHU] TMG Refugees list Hi I have another problem that is stopping me from moving my TMG data to FH (which I have wanted to do for some while) I noticed that sources/citations attached to Notes in TMG will not transfer to FH correctly. I have well over a hundred Notes (tags in TMG) attached to individuals and most have a source but even though the note imports to FH and is listed in View/Standard Queries/Source Records, the source reference or citation is missing. This has been discussed on the forum and reported . Ray On 14 October 2014 16:05, Jane Taubman via < [email protected]> wrote: > On 13 October 2014 20:21, John Liddle via < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > One of the worries many TMG users are expressing is the ability (or > > otherwise) of the importing program to faithfully copy their TMG > > Person > ID > > numbers > > > > Thanks for the head's up on the list. I'll pass it on. As far as I know > as long as the IDs are numeric they will be retained. > > > -- > Jane. > > Jane Taubman | www.rjt.org.uk | www.taubman.org.uk |www.fhug.org.uk > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.5315 / Virus Database: 4181/8400 - Release Date: 10/16/14 --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
Hi Ray, There is a similar problem with Source Citations attached to Relationships in TMG not being transferred to FH. To solve that problem, I have written a Plugin that uses a TMG Citations Report to create the missing FH Citations. A similar Plugin technique, using the same Citations Report, could create the missing FH Citations for Notes. Since both the Notes and the Sources exist in FH it is relatively straightforward. See FHUG Forum > Importing and Exporting > Import from TMG - Missing Some Citations: http://www.fhug.org.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=11462 There is a growing band of TMG users wanting to migrate to FH. Calico Pie have made recent improvements to the FH V5 TMG Import feature. So they are clearly interested in resolving these issues. Can you disclose their reply to the report you sent? Regards, Mike Tate -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ray Wigzell via Sent: 15 October 2014 11:35 To: Jane Taubman; [email protected] Subject: Re: [FHU] TMG Refugees list Hi I have another problem that is stopping me from moving my TMG data to FH (which I have wanted to do for some while) I noticed that sources/citations attached to Notes in TMG will not transfer to FH correctly. I have well over a hundred Notes (tags in TMG) attached to individuals and most have a source but even though the note imports to FH and is listed in View/Standard Queries/Source Records, the source reference or citation is missing. This has been discussed on the forum and reported . Ray On 14 October 2014 16:05, Jane Taubman via < [email protected]> wrote: > On 13 October 2014 20:21, John Liddle via < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > One of the worries many TMG users are expressing is the ability (or > > otherwise) of the importing program to faithfully copy their TMG > > Person > ID > > numbers > > > > Thanks for the head's up on the list. I'll pass it on. As far as I know > as long as the IDs are numeric they will be retained. > > > -- > Jane. > > Jane Taubman | www.rjt.org.uk | www.taubman.org.uk |www.fhug.org.uk > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hi I have another problem that is stopping me from moving my TMG data to FH (which I have wanted to do for some while) I noticed that sources/citations attached to Notes in TMG will not transfer to FH correctly. I have well over a hundred Notes (tags in TMG) attached to individuals and most have a source but even though the note imports to FH and is listed in View/Standard Queries/Source Records, the source reference or citation is missing. This has been discussed on the forum and reported . Ray On 14 October 2014 16:05, Jane Taubman via < [email protected]> wrote: > On 13 October 2014 20:21, John Liddle via < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > One of the worries many TMG users are expressing is the ability (or > > otherwise) of the importing program to faithfully copy their TMG Person > ID > > numbers > > > > Thanks for the head's up on the list. I'll pass it on. As far as I know > as long as the IDs are numeric they will be retained. > > > -- > Jane. > > Jane Taubman | www.rjt.org.uk | www.taubman.org.uk |www.fhug.org.uk > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
Peter, you must handle that change yourself by unsubscribing your old E-mail address and Subscribing your new address. If you actually mean "Family Historian Bulletins" from Calico Pie, then use the following link: http://www.family-historian.co.uk/community/family-historian-bulletins If you mean the "FHU Mailing List" via Rootsweb the use the following link: http://www.family-historian.co.uk/community/fhu Regards, Mike Tate -----Original Message----- Subject: [FHU] change of email address Can you please change my email address from [email protected] to [email protected] I receive the regular Family Historian newsletters. Peter Bailey at home
On 14 Oct 2014 16:58, Peter Bailey via wrote: > Can you please change my email address from [email protected] to > > > [email protected] > > > I receive the regular Family Historian newsletters. > This should be your responsibility. Unsubscribe and resubscribe. -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg
On 13 October 2014 20:21, John Liddle via < [email protected]> wrote: > One of the worries many TMG users are expressing is the ability (or > otherwise) of the importing program to faithfully copy their TMG Person ID > numbers > Thanks for the head's up on the list. I'll pass it on. As far as I know as long as the IDs are numeric they will be retained. -- Jane. Jane Taubman | www.rjt.org.uk | www.taubman.org.uk |www.fhug.org.uk
Can you please change my email address from [email protected] to [email protected] I receive the regular Family Historian newsletters. Peter Bailey at home
As a user of both (mainly) TMG and Family Historian, I have been keeping an interested eye on the "TMG-Refugees" list at Rootsweb. Although most of the respondents on that list seem to have their "USA" blinkers on and are therefore concentrating on how one might transfer from TMG to Legacy and (mostly) Rootsmagic, it is noticeable that staff members from both those programs have joined the list and are making inputs extolling the virtues of their respective programs and how it can cope with the transfer from TMG. It is also noticeable that as a result of queries and concerns expressed by the actual TMG refugees, both programs have been amended to better cater for the transfer and this process is, I believe, likely to continue. I know that FH has made changes to better accommodate transfer from TMG, but I think it would do no harm, and possibly a great deal of good, if there were a similar staff presence from FH on that list. I do not know how many TMG users there are in the UK, but I suspect there are enough to be of interest to Calico Pie and there is certainly a goodly number in the US who represent a significant potential market. One of the worries many TMG users are expressing is the ability (or otherwise) of the importing program to faithfully copy their TMG Person ID numbers - these are used by many (myself included) as a means of codifying sources and changes to them would be a disaster. I have pointed out on the list that FH can manage this task, but I am sure that there will be other aspects which benefit from an authoritative statement regarding current or proposed capability. Other areas of concern are the ability to have customised sentences for reports and the use of roles for witnesses. These may be beyond the current plans for FH and I know I am probably teaching Granny to suck eggs, but I fear that there is an opportunity going to waste. Regards, John Liddle Backwell, North Somerset, UK - "Where the cider apples grow"
Thanks, Mike. That works fine. Martin -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Beryl & Mike Tate via Sent: 11 October 2014 14:03 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [FHU] Query Hi Martin, Start from the Standard Query for All Relatives. Save as a Custom Query named say All Relatives Filter. On the Rows tab using the General tab add the following filter: Condition: Exclude unless Expression: =Relationship(["Starting Person"],,TEXT,1) ... (Tip: use the drop-down arrow far right and select the 4th entry.) Operator: matches or contains ... (depending on how exact a text match you want) Tick Parameter far right and enter Label: Relationship Regards, Mike Tate -----Original Message----- Subject: [FHU] Query I want a query that will return e.g. all uncles, great-uncles etc. etc. Ideally by inputting the required relationship to the starting person. Thanks, Martin. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hi Martin, Start from the Standard Query for All Relatives. Save as a Custom Query named say All Relatives Filter. On the Rows tab using the General tab add the following filter: Condition: Exclude unless Expression: =Relationship(["Starting Person"],,TEXT,1) ... (Tip: use the drop-down arrow far right and select the 4th entry.) Operator: matches or contains ... (depending on how exact a text match you want) Tick Parameter far right and enter Label: Relationship Regards, Mike Tate -----Original Message----- Subject: [FHU] Query I want a query that will return e.g. all uncles, great-uncles etc. etc. Ideally by inputting the required relationship to the starting person. Thanks, Martin.
I'm sure I should be able to do this, but I'm stuck. I want a query that will return e.g. all uncles, great-uncles etc. etc. Ideally by inputting the required relationship to the starting person. Thanks, Martin.
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