You success with AS is because you are using V4.5 and not the latest V5.0 which exhibits the problem, so do NOT upgrade! You talk about upgrading to FH V6.4 but I think you mean V6.0.4 and I advise that you do upgrade. Regards, Mike Tate -----Original Message----- Subject: Re: [FHU] Which emulation programmes are supported? Colin, I recall you were very helpful on the Forum getting FH to work under Crossover and with your help & Mike's I do appear to have both FH & AS working satisfactorily (for me at least) on my Mac's under Crossover. I understand there is a Mapping issue and I must acknowledge that I haven't exhaustively worked through all FH's possible input/output/data processing options but to the specifics you mention below have following experience:- 1. While there is an issue with printing to pdf I have found no problems in printing reports to an rtf that opens fine in Pages or Word or in printing reports to hard copy. This is good enough for me and I can create pdf's outside of FH subsequently if then needed and after inevitable editing of the report generated in a Word Processor. Is there some other problem I have missed here? 2. AS appears to be working OK for me so long as I run it from within FH6 via the plugin. I'm running this on my iMac under Lion and my Macbook under Yosemite. There is a minor niggle on the Macbook install. It doesn't like to add the multimedia images and I've had to edit the source in FH subsequently to add the MMO. This might be something I did during the installation because it looks slightly different on the macbook (unless it's a difference between Lion and Yosemite?). On the iMac all the AS files appear in the Windows 7 bottle info list but not in the Crossover Family Historian main window pane which only shows the Family Historian program files. On the macbook AS appears alongside FH in the main window pane as well as in the Win7 bottle info list. I've not got round to uninstalling AS on the Macbook and trying to reinstall yet as it's not a big hassle to just post edit the Source entry after saving the new entry from AS. I should add have not used other plug-ins so maybe there are more issues there than I'm aware of but for me AS seems to work OK. 3. Right now I am working solely with FH v6.0 and AS v4.5 using Crossover v14.0.3 and I have ditched Parallels. I have not yet upgraded to more recent versions of any of these softwares so I can't say whether there are new problems emerging if I do. I plan to upgrade to FH 6.4 sometime soon. And I might try the latest version of Crossover. Fingers crossed! I do hope Crossover can become a viable option quite generally as my experiences so far are very positive and I have no plans (as yet!) to revert to a virtual machine, given that I don't have an overriding requirement to run other Windows applications on my Macs. best Colin Buckthorp

Colin, I recall you were very helpful on the Forum getting FH to work under Crossover and with your help & Mike's I do appear to have both FH & AS working satisfactorily (for me at least) on my Mac's under Crossover. I understand there is a Mapping issue and I must acknowledge that I haven't exhaustively worked through all FH's possible input/output/data processing options but to the specifics you mention below have following experience:- 1. While there is an issue with printing to pdf I have found no problems in printing reports to an rtf that opens fine in Pages or Word or in printing reports to hard copy. This is good enough for me and I can create pdf's outside of FH subsequently if then needed and after inevitable editing of the report generated in a Word Processor. Is there some other problem I have missed here? 2. AS appears to be working OK for me so long as I run it from within FH6 via the plugin. I'm running this on my iMac under Lion and my Macbook under Yosemite. There is a minor niggle on the Macbook install. It doesn't like to add the multimedia images and I've had to edit the source in FH subsequently to add the MMO. This might be something I did during the installation because it looks slightly different on the macbook (unless it's a difference between Lion and Yosemite?). On the iMac all the AS files appear in the Windows 7 bottle info list but not in the Crossover Family Historian main window pane which only shows the Family Historian program files. On the macbook AS appears alongside FH in the main window pane as well as in the Win7 bottle info list. I've not got round to uninstalling AS on the Macbook and trying to reinstall yet as it's not a big hassle to just post edit the Source entry after saving the new entry from AS. I should add have not used other plug-ins so m! aybe there are more issues there than I'm aware of but for me AS seems to work OK. 3. Right now I am working solely with FH v6.0 and AS v4.5 using Crossover v14.0.3 and I have ditched Parallels. I have not yet upgraded to more recent versions of any of these softwares so I can't say whether there are new problems emerging if I do. I plan to upgrade to FH 6.4 sometime soon. And I might try the latest version of Crossover. Fingers crossed! I do hope Crossover can become a viable option quite generally as my experiences so far are very positive and I have no plans (as yet!) to revert to a virtual machine, given that I don't have an overriding requirement to run other Windows applications on my Macs. best Colin Buckthorp On 17 October 2015 08:38:14 GMT+01:00, Colin Spencer <colinsp@costablancaexpats.net> wrote: > Mike > > As you know I spent a considerable amount of time getting FH and Crossover > to work. The short comings were not just the mapping window, but also > printing reports and plugins. It became to much like hard work with too > many compromises. > > Wine has, according to their website, some time ago fixed the problem that > is affecting AS. Some 6 months on Crossover still have not got it sorted. > > If you want FH to work properly then at the moment an emulator is not the > answer and you need to use a virtual machine environment. Hopefully at > some stage in the future Calico Pie will get FH running properly on > Crossover. I would rather get on doing some genealogical research than > faffing around trying to get Crossover to work. > ‹ > Colin > http://le-fever.org

Clive, This will happen if you have set your Workspace preferences so that the default action for the Property Box is 'None' or 'Close it' for the Focus window but the default is 'Open it' for the Records window. A similar message appears in the Property box if you have FH set to open on the Records window by default. However it is not necessary to close the Property box to access the records. Perhaps you just mean you have the box set to floating so it is in the way? So there are various solutions: Set the Property box to open by default in the Focus window, or do not have it set to open by default in the Records Window, or have the Property box docked in the Records window so it is not in the way. Lorna On 17/10/2015 21:52, Beryl & Mike Tate via wrote: > Hi Clive, > I am not sure how that is happening and cannot recreate the symptoms. > If I understand correctly, you simply open FH which defaults to the Focus Window, and then open the Records Window which defaults to > the Individuals tab, and that produces the 'No record selection' error message box. > > Try using 'Tools> Preferences> Workspaces' and reset it to 'Installation Settings' then close and re-open FH. > > As a matter of interest do you have the File Root set to an Individual or not? > > Regards, Mike Tate > > -----Original Message----- > Subject: [FHU] Records Window > > On FH Version 6.0.4; when opening FH on a Focus person and then selecting the Individual Records the Record Properties 'No record > selection' box appears that has to be closed before the Individual Records can be accessed. > Is there a way of preventing this box appearing? > > Clive Spratt >

I have been getting a kind of similar message since I upgraded to Windows 10 In my case I prompt 'view' 'standard queries' 'relationships and nearest relationships' and get the message 'File is not a Family Historian Query' but when I close it the query opens up like it used to do I have done the installations setting you have just suggested Victor On 17/10/2015 9:52 PM, Beryl & Mike Tate via wrote: > Hi Clive, > I am not sure how that is happening and cannot recreate the symptoms. > If I understand correctly, you simply open FH which defaults to the Focus Window, and then open the Records Window which defaults to > the Individuals tab, and that produces the 'No record selection' error message box. > > Try using 'Tools > Preferences > Workspaces' and reset it to 'Installation Settings' then close and re-open FH. > > As a matter of interest do you have the File Root set to an Individual or not? > > Regards, Mike Tate > > -----Original Message----- > Subject: [FHU] Records Window > > On FH Version 6.0.4; when opening FH on a Focus person and then selecting the Individual Records the Record Properties 'No record > selection' box appears that has to be closed before the Individual Records can be accessed. > Is there a way of preventing this box appearing? > > Clive Spratt > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Clive, I am not sure how that is happening and cannot recreate the symptoms. If I understand correctly, you simply open FH which defaults to the Focus Window, and then open the Records Window which defaults to the Individuals tab, and that produces the 'No record selection' error message box. Try using 'Tools > Preferences > Workspaces' and reset it to 'Installation Settings' then close and re-open FH. As a matter of interest do you have the File Root set to an Individual or not? Regards, Mike Tate -----Original Message----- Subject: [FHU] Records Window On FH Version 6.0.4; when opening FH on a Focus person and then selecting the Individual Records the Record Properties 'No record selection' box appears that has to be closed before the Individual Records can be accessed. Is there a way of preventing this box appearing? Clive Spratt

On FH Version 6.0.4; when opening FH on a Focus person and then selecting the Individual Records the Record Properties 'No record selection' box appears that has to be closed before the Individual Records can be accessed. Is there a way of preventing this box appearing? Clive Spratt

Mike As you know I spent a considerable amount of time getting FH and Crossover to work. The short comings were not just the mapping window, but also printing reports and plugins. It became to much like hard work with too many compromises. Wine has, according to their website, some time ago fixed the problem that is affecting AS. Some 6 months on Crossover still have not got it sorted. If you want FH to work properly then at the moment an emulator is not the answer and you need to use a virtual machine environment. Hopefully at some stage in the future Calico Pie will get FH running properly on Crossover. I would rather get on doing some genealogical research than faffing around trying to get Crossover to work. ‹ Colin http://le-fever.org

Hi Fiona, This is a common problem with FH V6 GEDCOM that now uses Unicode UTF-16 encoding, which is often not supported by other genealogy products. See http://www.fhug.org.uk/wiki/doku.php?id=glossary:gedcom The FH V6 command "File > Import/Export > Export > GEDCOM File" offers Format: ANSI and UTF-8 encodings, etc, that are more widely supported, but many of the FH V6 dialect GEDCOM structures are not recognised by such as Ancestry. Therefore, it is better if you use the "Export Gedcom File" Plugin that has an option specifically for "(ANC) Ancestry Family Tree" that preserves as much as possible in Ancestry dialect GEDCOM. See http://www.fhug.org.uk/wiki/doku.php?id=plugins:help:export_gedcom_file:export_gedcom_file Regards, Mike Tate -----Original Message----- Subject: [FHU] Ancestry.co.uk I have recently done some research for a friend which I gave her as a GEDCOM file from FH6. She has tried to upload it onto Ancestry but it is telling her it is NOT a GEDCOM. I have had a look at FHUG and all I can see is about using Ancestry and FTM. Has anyone successfully loaded straight from V6 to a new tree on Ancestry? Thanks Fiona

Hi I have recently down some research for a friend which I gave her as a GEDCOM file from FH6. SHe has tried to upload it onto Ancestry but it is telling her it is NOT a GEDCOM. I have had a look at FHUG and all I can see is about using Ancestry and FTM. Has anyone successfully loaded straight from V6 to a new tree on Ancestry? Thanks Fiona

Good point Mike, I was just using that as an example for using Virtualbox. Presumably you'd need Windows 7 or upwards on there to run FH V6. Lesley On 16/10/2015 10:40, Beryl & Mike Tate via wrote: > Just beware that FH V6 does NOT run under Windows XP. > > Regards, Mike Tate > > -----Original Message----- > Subject: Re: [FHU] Which emulation programmes are supported? > > Although I don't use a Mac, I do have Virtual Box to run Windows XP so that I can use my trusty old HP scanner. I downloaded a free ISO image of Windows XP and used that for the install. > > It was a bit of a pain to set up as I didn't really know what I was doing, but I soon got the hang of it with a lot of help from Google & others and it works a treat! > > Regards > > Lesley Baxendale > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Just beware that FH V6 does NOT run under Windows XP. Regards, Mike Tate -----Original Message----- Subject: Re: [FHU] Which emulation programmes are supported? Although I don't use a Mac, I do have Virtual Box to run Windows XP so that I can use my trusty old HP scanner. I downloaded a free ISO image of Windows XP and used that for the install. It was a bit of a pain to set up as I didn't really know what I was doing, but I soon got the hang of it with a lot of help from Google & others and it works a treat! Regards Lesley Baxendale

Colin, Did you follow all the advice in the FHUG Knowledge Base? http://www.fhug.org.uk/wiki/doku.php?id=how_to:family_historian_v6_on_crossover_wine Yes, there are some FH Map Window display problems, but I thought the actual mapping worked OK. Calico Pie have stated they are keen to support Crossover, and to that end added the Tools > Preferences > General > Advanced > Emulator Compatibility Mode option. Yes, at present AS appears to have a problem, and I believe is waiting for a fix in Wine to migrate to Crossover. Regards, Mike Tate -----Original Message----- Subject: [FHU] Which emulation programmes are supported? Karen I spent a lot of time getting FH to run on Crossover. With FH v6 I have failed to get the mapping running and have also has issues getting Ancestral Sources working properly. To that end I have given up with Crossover. I now use Virtual Box and a Windows 7 licence and have full functionality of FH v6. IMHO both Wine and Crossover are great for some programmes, unfortunately FH is not one of them. Colin http://orba-design.com http://turnspain.com

Karen I spent a lot of time getting FH to run on Crossover. With FH v6 I have failed to get the mapping running and have also has issues getting Ancestral Sources working properly. To that end I have given up with Crossover. I now use Virtual Box and a Windows 7 licence and have full functionality of FH v6. IMHO both Wine and Crossover are great for some programmes, unfortunately FH is not one of them. ‹ Colin http://orba-design.com http://turnspain.com

Although I don't use a Mac, I do have Virtual Box to run Windows XP so that I can use my trusty old HP scanner. I downloaded a free ISO image of Windows XP and used that for the install. It was a bit of a pain to set up as I didn't really know what I was doing, but I soon got the hang of it with a lot of help from Google & others and it works a treat! Regards Lesley Baxendale On 16/10/2015 09:16, Colin Spencer via wrote: > Karen > > I spent a lot of time getting FH to run on Crossover. With FH v6 I have > failed to get the mapping running and have also has issues getting > Ancestral Sources working properly. To that end I have given up with > Crossover. > > I now use Virtual Box and a Windows 7 licence and have full functionality > of FH v6. > > IMHO both Wine and Crossover are great for some programmes, unfortunately > FH is not one of them. > ‹ > Colin > http://orba-design.com > http://turnspain.com > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Have you seen the FHUG Knowledge Base advice: http://www.fhug.org.uk/wiki/doku.php?id=how_to:family_historian_v6_on_crossover_wine Why do you think your Windows licence has run out? It should have been a retail licence, that I don't believe has a time limit. Regards, Mike Tate -----Original Message----- Subject: [FHU] Which emulation programmes are supported? I use a Mac rather than a PC and in order to keep FH I have been running parallels up to this point. If I update my OS I also need to upgrade Parallels as the version I have isnt compatible with newer operating systems, and I believe that the Windows licence I have has run out, and may need re-doing if I perform the other updates / upgrades, and will end up becoming costly. My question is for people that run emulators on Macs in order to keep FH, which ones do you use, and are they supported? I have read on a forum somewhere that not all software works well on all programmes. Ideally I would like one that doesnt require a Windows licence - ie Crossover, mostly for the cost but also for cluttering up the machine with things I dont need - I dont use the 'PC portion of my Mac for anything else. Another forum also mentioned one called Fusion that I had not previously heard of. So I wanted to ask people who are using the same software that I want to run on the emulator what they find the best. Karen

Afternoon, I use a Mac rather than a PC and in order to keep FH I have been running parallels up to this point. If I update my OS I also need to upgrade Parallels as the version I have isnt compatible with newer operating systems, and I believe that the Windows licence I have has run out, and may need re-doing if I perform the other updates / upgrades, and will end up becoming costly. My question is for people that run emulators on Macs in order to keep FH, which ones do you use, and are they supported? I have read on a forum somewhere that not all software works well on all programmes. Ideally I would like one that doesnt require a Windows licence - ie Crossover, mostly for the cost but also for cluttering up the machine with things I dont need - I dont use the 'PC portion of my Mac for anything else. Another forum also mentioned one called Fusion that I had not previously heard of. So I wanted to ask people who are using the same software that I want to run on the emulator what they find the best. Thanks Karen

I've had a quick look this afternoon, but I'll read in more depth tomorrow. Lots to learn! Lesley On 14/10/2015 17:36, Beryl and Mike Tate via wrote: > There is loads of advice and tutorials for newcomers in the FHUG Knowledge > Base. (FHUG is much more than just Forums.) > > Regards, Mike Tate > > -----Original Message----- > Subject: Re: [FHU] Information storage/retention > > Thanks Trevor, > > I have yet to investigate everything that FH can do - I'm pretty new to > it. I've been using Family Tree Maker for years, but I really don't > like the newer versions. FH is a bit of a steep learning curve, but > much more to my liking then the latest FTM. > > I already back up everything to numerous locations so that bit's sorted. > > Regards > > Lesley > > On 14/10/2015 15:22, Trevor Rix via wrote: >> Store it within Family Historian. Link your digital images into Family >> Historian to each of the people mentioned in each image. Make good use >> of the icons in the diagrams so that you can see at a glance what images >> you have linked to each person. Display an image that you wish to study >> from within Family Historian. Property Box, Media tab, select an image, >> click the green play button to view the image. >> >> For any notes or scraps of paper that are not yet digitised, digitise > them. >> >> Make sure that you have lots of backups of your images/media, including >> automatic backups to more that one service in the cloud. >> >> Trevor Rix >> >>> How do you keep track of and store all your information outside of FH? >> > > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thanks again Mike, It's all these tips that you just don't realise when you're new to something. That should save a lot of sorting. Lesley On 14/10/2015 17:32, Beryl and Mike Tate via wrote: > Don't worry about organizing into directories as FH will help you with that. > > Just decide what general groups you want, and as you add the images to FH, > choose the directory you want them saved into. FH has a Project directory > named Media, and all the images are saved therein, but they can be in any > sub-directory of Media. It is important to use this internal Media directory > rather than elsewhere on disk. > > Also FH allows Keywords to be associated with each Media record linked to > each Media image file, and they can be used to group & search your images. > > Document images should be linked to the Media tab of Source records. > > Photos of people should be linked to the Media tab of Individual or Family > records. > > Regards, Mike Tate > > -----Original Message----- > Subject: Re: [FHU] Information storage/retention > > Many thanks Mike, > > I'll have a look at the forum. I'm so used to e-mailing for everything, > I tend to forget about forums. > > I already have loads of digital images of photos, wills, census returns > and BMD register entries, which at the moment are in either year or > general family directories and usually appropriately named. It's those > I need to sort out and put in more specific directories before linking > to FH. I did start sorting out my hard copy files & putting everything > for one family group together. I've never used Ancestral Sources, so > I'll investigate that - it might save me a lot of filing! > > As for using digital media, I back-up to an external hard drive and the > cloud regularly. I also have a second hard drive back-up which is kept > in my car (just in case) and a set of DVD's at my daughter's house with > written instructions on what's on there (again, just in case). I think > the main problems arise when people don't keep transferring their data > to the latest storage media before theirs becomes obsolete. It also > helps to use archive grade media so that they will last a bit longer. > > Long term, digital records are far more likely to be retained. I can't > see any of my family wanting to store dozens of lever arch files once > I'm gone! > > Thanks again, > > Lesley > > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

There is loads of advice and tutorials for newcomers in the FHUG Knowledge Base. (FHUG is much more than just Forums.) Regards, Mike Tate -----Original Message----- Subject: Re: [FHU] Information storage/retention Thanks Trevor, I have yet to investigate everything that FH can do - I'm pretty new to it. I've been using Family Tree Maker for years, but I really don't like the newer versions. FH is a bit of a steep learning curve, but much more to my liking then the latest FTM. I already back up everything to numerous locations so that bit's sorted. Regards Lesley On 14/10/2015 15:22, Trevor Rix via wrote: > Store it within Family Historian. Link your digital images into Family > Historian to each of the people mentioned in each image. Make good use > of the icons in the diagrams so that you can see at a glance what images > you have linked to each person. Display an image that you wish to study > from within Family Historian. Property Box, Media tab, select an image, > click the green play button to view the image. > > For any notes or scraps of paper that are not yet digitised, digitise them. > > Make sure that you have lots of backups of your images/media, including > automatic backups to more that one service in the cloud. > > Trevor Rix > >> How do you keep track of and store all your information outside of FH? > --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

Don't worry about organizing into directories as FH will help you with that. Just decide what general groups you want, and as you add the images to FH, choose the directory you want them saved into. FH has a Project directory named Media, and all the images are saved therein, but they can be in any sub-directory of Media. It is important to use this internal Media directory rather than elsewhere on disk. Also FH allows Keywords to be associated with each Media record linked to each Media image file, and they can be used to group & search your images. Document images should be linked to the Media tab of Source records. Photos of people should be linked to the Media tab of Individual or Family records. Regards, Mike Tate -----Original Message----- Subject: Re: [FHU] Information storage/retention Many thanks Mike, I'll have a look at the forum. I'm so used to e-mailing for everything, I tend to forget about forums. I already have loads of digital images of photos, wills, census returns and BMD register entries, which at the moment are in either year or general family directories and usually appropriately named. It's those I need to sort out and put in more specific directories before linking to FH. I did start sorting out my hard copy files & putting everything for one family group together. I've never used Ancestral Sources, so I'll investigate that - it might save me a lot of filing! As for using digital media, I back-up to an external hard drive and the cloud regularly. I also have a second hard drive back-up which is kept in my car (just in case) and a set of DVD's at my daughter's house with written instructions on what's on there (again, just in case). I think the main problems arise when people don't keep transferring their data to the latest storage media before theirs becomes obsolete. It also helps to use archive grade media so that they will last a bit longer. Long term, digital records are far more likely to be retained. I can't see any of my family wanting to store dozens of lever arch files once I'm gone! Thanks again, Lesley --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus