Hi John, Confusing subject isn't it. In general terms, I have always understood 'repository' as the place where the original document is held. However, I think for the purposes of computing with Family Historian it would probably mean the place where you as the holder of the information choose to store it. In which case, the source and citation should cover where you got the information from, but the repository covers what you did with it. Either held in a file for hard copies; in a specific directory for digital media; or on-line via a website (eg. UKBMD). I have no idea if my interpretation on this is correct, but I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm way off. Regards Lesley Baxendale On 29/10/2015 09:08, John Firr via wrote: > I sent a mail yesterday about sources etc and thanks for the prompt response, look forward to the updated v6 manual. I spent last night looking again at the topic and it finally clicked so I now understand the difference between a repository, source and citation. > Does anyone have a simple set up for generic repositories? Example is a birth certificate may exist as a paper copy I own. A reference from bmd registers or just a quick find on ancestry. In these three cases would you always put the repository as the general records office? > Sorry I know this sounds a daft question but I want to get the referencing right > Regards > John Firr > > Sent from my iPhone > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

John A birth certificate is a source in its own right - the source for the BMD indexes should be something like "Gro Indexes" A better example might be a marriage certificate. The copy you get from the GRO will not be the same as the copy of the same marriage shall we say from Ancestry. Nor will it be the same as a transcript on BMD Registers and possibly different from that on Lancashire OPC. A repository on the other hand is the place that you would go to get a copy of the certificate. This can be your own collection, the record office that holds the original, in the case of BMD indexes possibly the GRO Regards John Hanson Researcher, The Halsted Trust Website - www.halstedresearch.org.uk -----Original Message----- From: family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of John Firr via Sent: 29 October 2015 09:09 To: FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS@rootsweb.com Subject: [FHU] Repositories I sent a mail yesterday about sources etc and thanks for the prompt response, look forward to the updated v6 manual. I spent last night looking again at the topic and it finally clicked so I now understand the difference between a repository, source and citation. Does anyone have a simple set up for generic repositories? Example is a birth certificate may exist as a paper copy I own. A reference from bmd registers or just a quick find on ancestry. In these three cases would you always put the repository as the general records office? Sorry I know this sounds a daft question but I want to get the referencing right Regards John Firr Sent from my iPhone ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I use GRO as the repository for England & Wales certifivates, whether they come from freeBMD, local registrar websites or wherever. Others may be more specific but my view is that GRO is the main repository. I use TNA National Archives for all census since that is ultimately where they come from. Sent from my iPad Irene Blackburn > On 29 Oct 2015, at 09:08, John Firr via <family-historian-users@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > I sent a mail yesterday about sources etc and thanks for the prompt response, look forward to the updated v6 manual. I spent last night looking again at the topic and it finally clicked so I now understand the difference between a repository, source and citation. > Does anyone have a simple set up for generic repositories? Example is a birth certificate may exist as a paper copy I own. A reference from bmd registers or just a quick find on ancestry. In these three cases would you always put the repository as the general records office? > Sorry I know this sounds a daft question but I want to get the referencing right > Regards > John Firr > > Sent from my iPhone > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I sent a mail yesterday about sources etc and thanks for the prompt response, look forward to the updated v6 manual. I spent last night looking again at the topic and it finally clicked so I now understand the difference between a repository, source and citation. Does anyone have a simple set up for generic repositories? Example is a birth certificate may exist as a paper copy I own. A reference from bmd registers or just a quick find on ancestry. In these three cases would you always put the repository as the general records office? Sorry I know this sounds a daft question but I want to get the referencing right Regards John Firr Sent from my iPhone

Interesting reading how everyone saves their images. What I do is save them all in a separate file outside the media. I rotate them 9- deg before saving. For BMD I have a folder named certificates with sub folders for B , D and M. I then upload them into FH under each name. This means they are then transferred into the media folder and saved there. This does mean I have a copy outside FH as well as inside. Same goes for the census images and any other images. I rotate them so that when I do a narrative report I make them larger to fill a page so they can be read. Victor On 28/10/2015 8:50 AM, Roger Nelson via wrote: > I am hoping someone can help with a small problem I have with adding copies of certificates to my copy of FH. > > Using: > FH version 6.0.4 > Windows 10 > > I scan the certificate and store in a sub folder of my media file > C:\...\Family Historian Projects\...\Media\Certificates > > When I select the media from this file, from the: Show media option, Add, Insert from File, – > The resulting image is rotated 90 degrees, on end. I cannot see any way to edit/rotate the image once linked to a ‘Fact’. > > I have recently changed to a new computer, with Windows 10 and this is the first time I have tried this with this computer – specifically it’s own scanner program, however I don't think the problem is with that. Previously with Win 7 I did not have this problem. > > Any Help/advise greatly appreciated > Roger > > > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

We are working on a book "Getting the Most from Family Historian 6" which we hope to bring out soon - and it has a chapter on recording your sources and the new automatic source citation pane etc. No date yet though, but we're hoping to get it out in time for Christmas. Simon Orde List Administrator and Family Historian Designer -----Original Message----- From: family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of John Firr via Sent: 28 October 2015 16:57 To: FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS@rootsweb.com Subject: [FHU] Tutorial help for version 6 Hi, I printed the very helpful "getting the most from family historian" manual and also purchased the small booklet by William Clegg on where to record sources etc. However I didn't get round to using these until after upgrading to version 6 and although I have found the manual pretty useful and learned a lot and in the main it has been reasonably easy to work out where screens and buttons have changed. However I really can't get my head around the sources and repositories stuff as the screens seem very different particularly the "automatic" citations. Is there any new tutorial material for version 6 or is the detail of recording sources covered in any of the courses which are run occasionally? Thanks John Firr Sent from my iPad ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, I printed the very helpful "getting the most from family historian" manual and also purchased the small booklet by William Clegg on where to record sources etc. However I didn't get round to using these until after upgrading to version 6 and although I have found the manual pretty useful and learned a lot and in the main it has been reasonably easy to work out where screens and buttons have changed. However I really can't get my head around the sources and repositories stuff as the screens seem very different particularly the "automatic" citations. Is there any new tutorial material for version 6 or is the detail of recording sources covered in any of the courses which are run occasionally? Thanks John Firr Sent from my iPad

See also this section in the FHUG knowledge base on 'Photo Orientation: http://www.fhug.org.uk/wiki/doku.php?id=how_to:v4:adding_multimedia&#photo_orientation Lorna On 28/10/2015 12:14, Lorna Craig via wrote: > There is a lot more to this than meets the eye. > Have a look at this topic in the FHUG forum for a lengthy discussion > about rotating pictures: > http://www.fhug.org.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=11341&p=53750&hilit=Rotating+pictures#p53750 > > Lorna >

There is a lot more to this than meets the eye. Have a look at this topic in the FHUG forum for a lengthy discussion about rotating pictures: http://www.fhug.org.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=11341&p=53750&hilit=Rotating+pictures#p53750 Lorna On 28/10/2015 10:44, Lesley Baxendale via wrote: > With any image, if you change anything at all, you must save it like > that otherwise the software will just go back to the original and forget > everything you've just done. Standard practice with any software. Not > all of them will prompt you to save. > > Regards > > Lesley Baxendale > > >

On 28 Oct 2015 10:50 AM, Roger Nelson via wrote: > I scan the certificate and store in a sub folder of my media file > C:\...\Family Historian Projects\...\Media\Certificates > > When I select the media from this file, from the: Show media option, Add, > Insert from File, – The resulting image is rotated 90 degrees, on end. I > cannot see any way to edit/rotate the image once linked to a ‘Fact’. > > I have recently changed to a new computer, with Windows 10 and this is the > first time I have tried this with this computer – specifically it’s own > scanner program, however I don't think the problem is with that. Previously > with Win 7 I did not have this problem. You need to sort your orientation out after scanning and before using the image. With Windows 10, using Windows Explorer, locate the image. Right-click on it and select Rotate right or left. This will orientate the image correctly. Then use it in Legacy. Oh yes! Legacy 8 can also do this! Open the Media Gallery, locate the picture.Right-click on the picture and select Edit. Three-quarters the way down on the right, find the Rotate button. Same for Legacy 7.5 -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg

With any image, if you change anything at all, you must save it like that otherwise the software will just go back to the original and forget everything you've just done. Standard practice with any software. Not all of them will prompt you to save. Regards Lesley Baxendale On 28/10/2015 09:50, Roger Nelson via wrote: > May have sorted it myself, I believe that after scanning and, if required, > rotating, I have to ensure it is saved like that. Win 10 tends to correct > orientation and then transferring file puts it back to original. Or so it > appears. > Roger > > -----Original Message----- > From: Roger Nelson via > Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2015 8:50 AM > To: FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS@rootsweb.com > Subject: [FHU] Rotating Media > > I am hoping someone can help with a small problem I have with adding copies > of certificates to my copy of FH. > > Using: > FH version 6.0.4 > Windows 10 > > I scan the certificate and store in a sub folder of my media file > C:\...\Family Historian Projects\...\Media\Certificates > > When I select the media from this file, from the: Show media option, Add, > Insert from File, – > The resulting image is rotated 90 degrees, on end. I cannot see any way to > edit/rotate the image once linked to a ‘Fact’. > > I have recently changed to a new computer, with Windows 10 and this is the > first time I have tried this with this computer – specifically it’s own > scanner program, however I don't think the problem is with that. Previously > with Win 7 I did not have this problem. > > Any Help/advise greatly appreciated > Roger > > > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

May have sorted it myself, I believe that after scanning and, if required, rotating, I have to ensure it is saved like that. Win 10 tends to correct orientation and then transferring file puts it back to original. Or so it appears. Roger -----Original Message----- From: Roger Nelson via Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2015 8:50 AM To: FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS@rootsweb.com Subject: [FHU] Rotating Media I am hoping someone can help with a small problem I have with adding copies of certificates to my copy of FH. Using: FH version 6.0.4 Windows 10 I scan the certificate and store in a sub folder of my media file C:\...\Family Historian Projects\...\Media\Certificates When I select the media from this file, from the: Show media option, Add, Insert from File, – The resulting image is rotated 90 degrees, on end. I cannot see any way to edit/rotate the image once linked to a ‘Fact’. I have recently changed to a new computer, with Windows 10 and this is the first time I have tried this with this computer – specifically it’s own scanner program, however I don't think the problem is with that. Previously with Win 7 I did not have this problem. Any Help/advise greatly appreciated Roger --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

I am hoping someone can help with a small problem I have with adding copies of certificates to my copy of FH. Using: FH version 6.0.4 Windows 10 I scan the certificate and store in a sub folder of my media file C:\...\Family Historian Projects\...\Media\Certificates When I select the media from this file, from the: Show media option, Add, Insert from File, – The resulting image is rotated 90 degrees, on end. I cannot see any way to edit/rotate the image once linked to a ‘Fact’. I have recently changed to a new computer, with Windows 10 and this is the first time I have tried this with this computer – specifically it’s own scanner program, however I don't think the problem is with that. Previously with Win 7 I did not have this problem. Any Help/advise greatly appreciated Roger --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

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Hello folks You may have noticed that a number of garbage messages entitled "Fw: new message" have made it onto the list. Please delete them and do NOT click on the links in any of them. Any email sent to the list which requires you to click on a link to read the message will be garbage as FHU Mailing List emails do not work like that. Clicking on links in any emails you do not recognise is always a bad idea and could be harmful. We hope that Rootsweb may take action shortly to help us filter out these emails from phoney subscribers. Meanwhile, please just be cautious. If an email looks odd, and doesn't read like a genuine post from a Family Historian user, please just ignore it and delete it. Thank you. Simon Orde List Administrator and Family Historian Designer

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