*Any* errors? Can you justify why you are holding FMP responsible for errors made by the householders, by the enumerators and by the NHS? There is a simple answer to "exorbitant fees for rubbish" - don't buy the stuff in the first place. While people continue to buy the stuff, FMP can justifiably say, "But people want it...". For me, the price is too steep for the information gained - so I'm not buying. End of story. Adrian On 6 November 2015 at 14:07, D C Banks via < family-historian-users@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Hi all. > Can I suggest that, without fail, everybody posts any errors you find to > the > FMP web site > >

Hi all. Can I suggest that, without fail, everybody posts any errors you find to the FMP web site, I have found all sorts of errors and have posted each one singly, until we do this they are going to continue charging exorbitant fees for rubbish. David -----Original Message----- From: family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Alan Hourd via Sent: 05 November 2015 19:11 To: family-historian-users@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FHU] 1939 Register How have others found the 1939 Register? I looked up the records for my own family and a cousin's. In both cases there were transcription errors. The first was a minor error in my father's second initial - a "V" transcribed as an "S" - that made locating the record a little more awkward. The next record involved searching for my maternal grandfather whose surname was Terry. No record of him showed up, even with various filters added to the search. Eventually, by looking for another member of the same household, I found that "Terry" had been transcribed (and hence indexed) as "Derby". It's hard to see why that error in transcription had occurred unless someone was simply having a wild guess at the name. I haven't invested a vast sum in opening up the records but the costs seem pretty steep for such shoddy transcription. Moreover, people I know to be deceased are not revealed in the transcription or image - one has to submit clear evidence of a death to get that data revealed. Alan Hourd ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

If you want to see the surrounding entries on a page, use advanced search and enter the piece and item number (the second and third parts of the archive reference). The last part of the reference is the line number and will be different for every person on the image. Jan Murphy packrat74@gmail.com On Fri, Nov 6, 2015 at 12:43 PM, Greenbee via < family-historian-users@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Caryl wrote "So I have complained - twice. The first time they had > obviously not read my email, so I have complained again". --- > > There are some pretty awful transcription errors, because when you get the > image the enumeration is correct. > A tip, if you're not sure whether an entry is yours or not, note down the > enumeration number and do another search with no names, just the > enumeration > number. Seeing the full list will help you make your mind up whether it's > your family or not. > > As far as the redaction goes, I have a feeling that that has been done by > the National Archives as I think non FMP subscribers have to contact them > for correction. > > If you subscribe to FMP and report transcription errors they will > investigate and fix them if necessary, from memory it will be up to three > weeks before it would be fixed, but I've had emails from them in the past > to > say that my corrections have been actioned once they were pointed out. > > Regards > > Shelagh > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I have wondered about how comprehensive the recording of deaths would be. What if someone never told their doctors that their relative had died? What if the doctors never passed it on? Well, the records will remain blocked,that's what. But how many were like this? On 6 Nov 2015 12:36, "Alan Hourd" <alan.hourd@gmail.com> wrote: > It gets better – one of my hidden relatives died in 1980. So the updating > is a bit hit and miss too. > > Alan Hourd > > *From:* Adrian Bruce <abruce6155@gmail.com> > *Sent:* Thursday, November 5, 2015 7:23 PM > *To:* family-historian-users@rootsweb.com ; Alan Hourd > <alan.hourd@gmail.com> > *Subject:* Re: [FHU] 1939 Register > > > They have to have died before 1990???? which is when the NHS stopped > updating the Register. In theory. >

It gets better – one of my hidden relatives died in 1980. So the updating is a bit hit and miss too. Alan Hourd From: Adrian Bruce Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2015 7:23 PM To: family-historian-users@rootsweb.com ; Alan Hourd Subject: Re: [FHU] 1939 Register They have to have died before 1990???? which is when the NHS stopped updating the Register. In theory.

Agree about the cost of the data they actually give. I have not really found anything I had not already known or could at least work out. The locked records are a pity as some of mine are deceased but of course don't show. Tricia -----Original Message----- From: family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lesley Murray (O) via Sent: 05 November 2015 20:22 To: Alan Hourd <alan.hourd@gmail.com>; family-historian-users@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FHU] 1939 Register

As has already been said, most of the names I want for confirmation are locked due to their age. I've only done a couple of basic searches and not found an error as yet. I do find the cost to be very steep and despite already having a tidy sum of pay-as-you-go credits I don't seem to be allowed to use them for this. I had them banked from some time ago and am keeping them alive with my subscription. I have been waiting since the register was released for findmypast to explain to my query as to why I can't use them. They don't appear to want to reply. Suffice to say I'm not happy and am reluctant to spend the amount they want for data I already know about. Regards Lesley -----Original Message----- From: Alan Hourd via Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2015 7:11 PM To: family-historian-users@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FHU] 1939 Register How have others found the 1939 Register? I looked up the records for my own family and a cousin's. In both cases there were transcription errors. The first was a minor error in my father's second initial - a "V" transcribed as an "S" - that made locating the record a little more awkward. The next record involved searching for my maternal grandfather whose surname was Terry. No record of him showed up, even with various filters added to the search. Eventually, by looking for another member of the same household, I found that "Terry" had been transcribed (and hence indexed) as "Derby". It's hard to see why that error in transcription had occurred unless someone was simply having a wild guess at the name. I haven't invested a vast sum in opening up the records but the costs seem pretty steep for such shoddy transcription. Moreover, people I know to be deceased are not revealed in the transcription or image - one has to submit clear evidence of a death to get that data revealed. Alan Hourd ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2016.0.7227 / Virus Database: 4457/10952 - Release Date: 11/05/15

They have to have died before 1990???? which is when the NHS stopped updating the Register. In theory.

Thank you to everone, for your useful ideas - much appreciated Tim Haymes On 05/11/2015 14:55, Trevor Rix via wrote: > The message archive may be viewed at > > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS > > Trevor Rix > >> How do I access the message archive ? > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

How have others found the 1939 Register? I looked up the records for my own family and a cousin's. In both cases there were transcription errors. The first was a minor error in my father's second initial - a "V" transcribed as an "S" - that made locating the record a little more awkward. The next record involved searching for my maternal grandfather whose surname was Terry. No record of him showed up, even with various filters added to the search. Eventually, by looking for another member of the same household, I found that "Terry" had been transcribed (and hence indexed) as "Derby". It's hard to see why that error in transcription had occurred unless someone was simply having a wild guess at the name. I haven't invested a vast sum in opening up the records but the costs seem pretty steep for such shoddy transcription. Moreover, people I know to be deceased are not revealed in the transcription or image - one has to submit clear evidence of a death to get that data revealed. Alan Hourd

The message archive may be viewed at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS Trevor Rix > How do I access the message archive ?

You make it sound as though there are hundreds of messages a day Tim! No more than half a dozen usually. I suggest you just subscribe to digest mode, then you'll only get the one. Alternatively, you could create a folder for this list & then create a rule/filter directing all messages to the list to be diverted to that. Hence nothing in your in-box. You could then choose which ones you wanted to read and delete the rest. It would save you having to go through 'all' the messages in the digest e-mail 8>). Regards Lesley Baxendale > > Tim Haymes via <family-historian-users@rootsweb.com> wrote: > >> Hi All >> How do I access the message archive ? I prefer not to have copies >> delivered to my in-box. >> I also dont want to unsubscribe. >> with thanks. >> Tim >> FH v3 >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Go to the website : http://www.family-historian.co.uk/community/fhu You will then see options to subscribe or unsubscribe from the list in mail (multiple emails) and digest (one email per day) Carrie On 4 November 2015, at 19:05, Tim Haymes via <family-historian-users@rootsweb.com> wrote: Hi All How do I access the message archive ? I prefer not to have copies delivered to my in-box. I also dont want to unsubscribe. with thanks. Tim FH v3 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi All How do I access the message archive ? I prefer not to have copies delivered to my in-box. I also dont want to unsubscribe. with thanks. Tim FH v3

The only way to completely stop messages to your inbox is to unsubscribe, but then you also cannot post requests for help. You could unsubscribe from individual messages and then subscribe to just get a daily digest message. Full subscription details and where to search the archive are in the FHUG Knowledge Base under [FHU] Mailing List. http://www.fhug.org.uk/wiki/doku.php?id=info:mailing_list Regards, Mike Tate Sent from my Hudl Tim Haymes via <family-historian-users@rootsweb.com> wrote: >Hi All >How do I access the message archive ? I prefer not to have copies >delivered to my in-box. >I also dont want to unsubscribe. >with thanks. >Tim >FH v3 > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Yes, as documented in the FHUG KB Research useful websites: http://www.fhug.org.uk/wiki/doku.php?id=fhugdownloads:contents:service_uk_gro_certificate_ordering Regards, Mike Tate -----Original Message----- Subject: Re: [FHU] National Archives Alan, You use this site: http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/ not the National Archives Mervyn > On 4 Nov 2015, at 14:56, Alan via <family-historian-users@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Hi > Can anyone tell me how to get to National Archive site to order BMD certificates. Haven’t done it for some time and everything has changed, also website given, by National Archives, to me over the phone doesn’t exist. > Cheers > Alan

Alan, You use this site: http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/ not the National Archives Mervyn Sent from my iPad > On 4 Nov 2015, at 14:56, Alan via <family-historian-users@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Hi > Can anyone tell me how to get to National Archive site to order BMD certificates. Haven’t done it for some time and everything has changed, also website given, by National Archives, to me over the phone doesn’t exist. > Cheers > Alan > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Alan, The GRO is the best place to order certificates from http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/default.asp Karen > > On 04 November 2015 at 14:56 Alan via > <family-historian-users@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > > Hi > Can anyone tell me how to get to National Archive site to order BMD > certificates. Haven’t done it for some time and everything has changed, also > website given, by National Archives, to me over the phone doesn’t exist. > Cheers > Alan > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Can anyone tell me how to get to National Archive site to order BMD certificates. Haven’t done it for some time and everything has changed, also website given, by National Archives, to me over the phone doesn’t exist. Cheers Alan

Many thanks to Mike and Irene Sue Herrington On Nov 4, 2015 11:58 AM, "Beryl & Mike Tate via" < family-historian-users@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Irene is going to post the Census Template in the FHUG Research Forum at: > http://www.fhug.org.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=39&t=12981 > I then plan to add it to the FHUG AS Template Downloads. > > I would advise using the standard Census Event (I don't think AS can use > anything else). > Also I hope to add the 1939 Register to my 'Lookup Missing Census Facts' > Plugin and that will assume the use of the Census Event. > After all the 1939 Register is a form of census. > > Regards, Mike Tate > > -----Original Message----- > Subject: Re: [FHU] 1939 Register > > Irene > Thanks for that - hadn't thought of that option. > I assume that you also created a custom fact to go with it? > > Regards > John Hanson > Researcher, The Halsted Trust > Website - www.halstedresearch.org.uk > > > -----Original Message----- > Subject: Re: [FHU] 1939 Register > > I created a template based on the census, using the census template help > on Ancestral sources, it was surprisingly easy and believe > me, I am no expert. > > I included a data only column for married names to record names amended > after 1939. > > Sent from my iPad > Irene Blackburn > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >