> The "No Offspring" marker is intended to indicated that a woman definitely > has no descendants. > The "No Offspring" marker needs the "Count of Children" set to zero, > because otherwise it may simply be that your research has not > yet uncovered any children/offspring for the woman in question. > The Standard Query "Count of Children (per Individual)" does as it says on > the tin, which is not the same as the purpose of the "No > Offspring" marker. > I imagine the "Count of Children" and "Count of Marriages" attributes > allow you to record that you have discovered how many children > or marriages an individual has had, but your research has not yet > uncovered any details or you don't wish to record the details. > I can see a possible benefit in being able to record the number of children / spouse an individual has but if I suspect a couple had children (ie deceased children from the 1911 census), I think I would add a child just named (for example) "Child 1", "Child 2" etc. and put a note explaining the assumption rather than just entering a number. Also, thanks to all the others who gave their views. Brian

> Whilst on this subject, surely the "Count of Children" field > (and "Count of Marriages") should be calculated automatically > by Family Historian based on the details entered for an > Individual rather than being able to be entered by the user. Not so. GEDCOM says: COUNT_OF_CHILDREN:= {Size=1:3} The known number of children of this individual from all marriages or, if subordinate to a family record, the reported number of children known to belong to this family, regardless of whether the associated children are represented in the corresponding structure. This is not necessarily the count of children listed in a family structure. COUNT_OF_MARRIAGES:= {Size=1:3} The number of different families that this person was known to have been a member of as a spouse or parent, regardless of whether the associated families are represented in the GEDCOM file. Therefore it is perfectly valid to have e.g. Count of Children = 2 and for the individual or family to have one child recorded; and to have Count of Marriages = 1 but no spouse. I use this technique often, the alternative being dummy individuals which I find untidy and unhelpful.

<<SNIPPED>> Therefore, why does the "No Offspring" marker only work if you have specifically entered a zero value. Whilst on this subject, surely the "Count of Children" field (and "Count of Marriages") should be calculated automatically by Family Historian based on the details entered for an Individual rather than being able to be entered by the user. <<SNIPPED>> As ColeValleyGirl indicates - there might be a difference between knowing a count is zero and not having any known children or marriages. For instance, if it calculated Number of Marriages = zero and displayed that, it might mean they genuinely were never married or it might just mean I've not got round to looking for any marriages. Ditto children. It's one of those cases where a positive statement of "none" does not mean the same as just having no statement. Adrian B

I was given a list of the children of my great, great grandfather, it included the names of each wife and how many children of each sex each one had, lovely, I thought.  In the 1911 census I found two 'strange' children living with my great, great grandmother from the other side of the family who lived several hundred miles away.  I just had to send for the birth certificates, the boy was yet another of my great, great grandmothers children (no father!), the girl belonged to my great aunt who according to my list never married and didn't have any children.  She never did marry, so that was correct, the census for both households was also correct as they weren't married and could honestly say that they didn't have any children from that marriage!  So I would say treat the phrase 'no children' with care! Apart from the birth certificates and entry on the census I haven't been able to find out any more about either of these children, they seem to have just disappeared. Margaret   ________________________________ From: colevalleygirl <colevalleygirl@colevalleygirl.co.uk> To: family-historian-users@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, 1 August, 2011 18:58:52 Subject: Re: [FHU] No Offspring Marker I use the "Count of Children" to reflect how many children a mother had in the 1911 census. So, for example my great-grandmother had 7 children (Count of Children = 7) but I only have information about 5 as 2 of them were dead in 1911 and seem to have died between censuses. Likewise, I set Count of Children= 0 only when I know for certain there were no children. -----Original Message----- From: family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Brian Horridge Sent: 01 August 2011 18:38 To: family-historian-users@rootsweb.com Subject: [FHU] No Offspring Marker In the latest Family Historian Bulletin e-mail, there is a Version 4 Tip about the "No Offspring" marker on diagrams. Not knowing of this before, I tried it but, even though I followed the instructions, I could not get it to work.  It was only when I specifically set the "Count of Children" to a zero value (instead of an empty field) that it worked.  However, if you run the Standard Query  "Count of Children (per Individual)", it (correctly) gives a zero value against individuals with none. Therefore, why does the "No Offspring" marker only work if you have specifically entered a zero value. Whilst on this subject, surely the "Count of Children" field (and "Count of Marriages") should be calculated automatically by Family Historian based on the details entered for an Individual rather than being able to be entered by the user. Many thanks Brian ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Brian, The "No Offspring" marker is intended to indicated that a woman definitely has no descendants. The "No Offspring" marker needs the "Count of Children" set to zero, because otherwise it may simply be that your research has not yet uncovered any children/offspring for the woman in question. The Standard Query "Count of Children (per Individual)" does as it says on the tin, which is not the same as the purpose of the "No Offspring" marker. I imagine the "Count of Children" and "Count of Marriages" attributes allow you to record that you have discovered how many children or marriages an individual has had, but your research has not yet uncovered any details or you don't wish to record the details. -----Original Message----- From: family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Brian Horridge Sent: 01 August 2011 18:38 To: family-historian-users@rootsweb.com Subject: [FHU] No Offspring Marker In the latest Family Historian Bulletin e-mail, there is a Version 4 Tip about the "No Offspring" marker on diagrams. Not knowing of this before, I tried it but, even though I followed the instructions, I could not get it to work. It was only when I specifically set the "Count of Children" to a zero value (instead of an empty field) that it worked. However, if you run the Standard Query "Count of Children (per Individual)", it (correctly) gives a zero value against individuals with none. Therefore, why does the "No Offspring" marker only work if you have specifically entered a zero value. Whilst on this subject, surely the "Count of Children" field (and "Count of Marriages") should be calculated automatically by Family Historian based on the details entered for an Individual rather than being able to be entered by the user.

I use the "Count of Children" to reflect how many children a mother had in the 1911 census. So, for example my great-grandmother had 7 children (Count of Children = 7) but I only have information about 5 as 2 of them were dead in 1911 and seem to have died between censuses. Likewise, I set Count of Children= 0 only when I know for certain there were no children. -----Original Message----- From: family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Brian Horridge Sent: 01 August 2011 18:38 To: family-historian-users@rootsweb.com Subject: [FHU] No Offspring Marker In the latest Family Historian Bulletin e-mail, there is a Version 4 Tip about the "No Offspring" marker on diagrams. Not knowing of this before, I tried it but, even though I followed the instructions, I could not get it to work. It was only when I specifically set the "Count of Children" to a zero value (instead of an empty field) that it worked. However, if you run the Standard Query "Count of Children (per Individual)", it (correctly) gives a zero value against individuals with none. Therefore, why does the "No Offspring" marker only work if you have specifically entered a zero value. Whilst on this subject, surely the "Count of Children" field (and "Count of Marriages") should be calculated automatically by Family Historian based on the details entered for an Individual rather than being able to be entered by the user. Many thanks Brian ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Brian - Thanks for raising this. I've wondered about it for years. It doesn't work correctly in V.3 either, speaking as an unreconstructed user. Rod -----Original Message----- From: family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Brian Horridge Sent: 01 August 2011 18:38 To: family-historian-users@rootsweb.com Subject: [FHU] No Offspring Marker In the latest Family Historian Bulletin e-mail, there is a Version 4 Tip about the "No Offspring" marker on diagrams. Not knowing of this before, I tried it but, even though I followed the instructions, I could not get it to work. It was only when I specifically set the "Count of Children" to a zero value (instead of an empty field) that it worked. However, if you run the Standard Query "Count of Children (per Individual)", it (correctly) gives a zero value against individuals with none. Therefore, why does the "No Offspring" marker only work if you have specifically entered a zero value. Whilst on this subject, surely the "Count of Children" field (and "Count of Marriages") should be calculated automatically by Family Historian based on the details entered for an Individual rather than being able to be entered by the user. Many thanks Brian ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1390 / Virus Database: 1518/3803 - Release Date: 08/01/11

In the latest Family Historian Bulletin e-mail, there is a Version 4 Tip about the "No Offspring" marker on diagrams. Not knowing of this before, I tried it but, even though I followed the instructions, I could not get it to work. It was only when I specifically set the "Count of Children" to a zero value (instead of an empty field) that it worked. However, if you run the Standard Query "Count of Children (per Individual)", it (correctly) gives a zero value against individuals with none. Therefore, why does the "No Offspring" marker only work if you have specifically entered a zero value. Whilst on this subject, surely the "Count of Children" field (and "Count of Marriages") should be calculated automatically by Family Historian based on the details entered for an Individual rather than being able to be entered by the user. Many thanks Brian

This is just a test to see if FH incoming emails are diverted into the appropriate folder. Please ignore it. Dennis Hawkins

Thanks Peter, after a lot of brainstorming I managed to work out what I wanted. Oh to be a computer genius. Yas -----Original Message----- From: family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of P.Evans Sent: 24 July 2011 18:16 To: family-historian-users@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FHU] Creating Flags Yasmin, There are a selection of icons that you can use in the download section of the FHUG website. I found a BMD set that were close to what I wanted and then just modified them with a programme like Paint shop pro until I got what I wanted. Peter E ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Yasmin, There are a selection of icons that you can use in the download section of the FHUG website. I found a BMD set that were close to what I wanted and then just modified them with a programme like Paint shop pro until I got what I wanted. Peter E

Morning All I have not used family historian for a while due to other commitments however I am now relearning my way around again. I have created a flag called baptism and am going to add this to all my people with baptism information. However I cannot work out how to create a icon to attached to diagrams. I have looked at all the icons on the website and most show census, bmd's etc. Can anyone advise me how to create the icon I have read the on line help, and looked in the manual with no luck. I want a simple one very similar to the ones that Jane has created for census date, with just Bpt inside, once I have mastered this I am going to try to do the same for burial data. Thanks in advance Yas

On 20 July 2011 00:18, Roger Thompson <email@rogerthompson.com> wrote: > Do I have to manually set the Living flag for all records or should > the program do it automatically? > No, you need to do it manually. > If it has to be done manually, is there an > easy way to set the living flag for all living people? > Either use the Property Box Customisation to add a Tab with your Flags on, or use one of the "Living" queries from the Knowledge Base at FHUG and use the result set to set the Flag. http://www.fhug.org.uk/wiki/doku.php?do=search&id=living -- Jane. Jane Taubman | www.rjt.org.uk | www.taubman.org.uk |www.fhug.org.uk

I have a problem with Living Records showing dates of birth etc when they are uploaded on the website. When I upload my files I set the tick in the box that says show basic details only and this works for most living people. However it appears that some people I have entered recently aren't showing up with a living flag although their dates of birth are in the 1950's and 60's Do I have to manually set the Living flag for all records or should the program do it automatically? If it has to be done manually, is there an easy way to set the living flag for all living people? Many thanks in anticipation Roger Thompson

The current backup only backs up the gedcom file and not the media, if you have copies of your media some where else just copy them back in to the media folder with in the project. On 19 July 2011 19:52, Rob Kanaar <rkanaar@hotmail.com> wrote: > Unfortunately I have had to use the restore in anger as my old hard drive > failed – I backup regularly on closing FH, so have not lost any data – but > what I have lost are the joins to all the media files. It seems the backup > zip file does not hold any of the media, even though I have copied the media > to FH. > > -- Jane. Jane Taubman | www.rjt.org.uk | www.taubman.org.uk |www.fhug.org.uk

Hi Unfortunately I have had to use the restore in anger as my old hard drive failed – I backup regularly on closing FH, so have not lost any data – but what I have lost are the joins to all the media files. It seems the backup zip file does not hold any of the media, even though I have copied the media to FH. I have searched the knowledge base, but cannot see how to rebuild these links, short of doing each one manually – have I missed a trick please? thanks Rob

I was going to say "Nothing but a repeat of 'christening'", but then I expanded the sub-heading sideways and saw that it read "christening, age at.." so I pushed it back to the left and all appears to be well! Thank you. Dennis Hawkins -----Original Message----- From: Jane Taubman Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 9:45 PM To: family-historian-users@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FHU] Diagram Text Scheme What do you have on the text scheme line for Christening? On 18 July 2011 20:45, Dennis Hawkins <dennis.hawkins138@btinternet.com>wrote: > but every time a christening appears in a diagram box, it is followed by > “Age 0”. I cannot get rid of it!! > -- Jane. Jane Taubman | www.rjt.org.uk | www.taubman.org.uk |www.fhug.org.uk ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

What do you have on the text scheme line for Christening? On 18 July 2011 20:45, Dennis Hawkins <dennis.hawkins138@btinternet.com>wrote: > but every time a christening appears in a diagram box, it is followed by > “Age 0”. I cannot get rid of it!! > -- Jane. Jane Taubman | www.rjt.org.uk | www.taubman.org.uk |www.fhug.org.uk

Since changing to Windows7, I have spent ages grappling with Chapter 9 trying to restore the diagram text scheme to what it was on my old computer. I have finally achieved it (Birth, Marriage, Death, Occupation, Notes, Christening) with a custom scheme, but every time a christening appears in a diagram box, it is followed by “Age 0”. I cannot get rid of it!! Dennis Hawkins

Thank you Mary, I will try to get to grips with 'Flags', a feature of FH I have yet to explore! Stella.