On 22 November 2011 19:23, Cuddlybear <cuddlybear@gecko.myzen.co.uk> wrote: > I enter data and apparently produce a Diagram. After entering a certain amount of data the diagram breaks into sections on coloured arrows. I think I have to save the diagram before I can produce a chart. I am not sure where you are, but I suspect you are on the Focus window, looking at the Ancestors and Descendants tabs, and not working with a diagram, try selecting a diagram from the View>Standard Diagram menu. You might find it helpful to review Chapter 10 of the book (which can be accessed from the help menu). -- Jane. Jane Taubman | www.rjt.org.uk | www.taubman.org.uk |www.fhug.org.uk

Hi I'm new to this list having just converted to Family Historian. I am having trouble with producing a chart. I enter data and apparently produce a Diagram. After entering a certain amount of data the diagram breaks into sections on coloured arrows. I think I have to save the diagram before I can produce a chart. Could someone please explain how to do this and why I can't get a chart. Anyn help gratefully received Cheers Alan

On 2011/11/21 21:52, Adrian Bruce wrote: > I'll be a bit contrary here - why put the age in at all against a fact? If > you've got something about the birth (as surely you will have if you've got > an age), then FH will automatically generate an age (or age range) for the > fact to show in the individual's facts-tab. There are many examples from burial registers where the age is given as Infant, or as a number of days or weeks or months. I've even come across the odd entry whilst transcribing for FreeREG of a child that only lived a few hours. -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg

Jane Many thanks for the suggestion to use a picture file – I will have a try at this. Joan

I'm not sure what you mean by a 'shutter' coming down over your citations. Do you mean the whole source pane disappears from the Property Box? If so, you can get it back by clicking on the yellow scroll icon at the top of the Property Box. Do you mean the source pane has nothing in it? Don't forget you have to select an event/fact from the fact tab or the main tab of the property box first, then the source for that fact will show in the source pane. (And make sure you select the right fact before entering a source citation, otherwise you will have sources linked to the wrong facts!) Do you mean the source pane is squashed up so that you can't see any or all of the sources? If so, click and drag on the line of grey dots above the source pane (assuming you are displaying the source pane at the bottom of the property box) to adjust the relative sizes of the different sections of the property box. I hope this helps. Lorna On 21/11/2011 18:01, val@gauld.co.uk wrote: > Hello FH, Anothr no doubt silly query from me but I can't find the > solution in the FH Book; a shutter comes down automatically over some > of my citations as I enter them; I didn't knowingly set this up and I > don't know how to reverse it but it is proving a problem as I am > checking a set of 900 + entries and therefore can't remember whether > or not I entered the correct citation in those Citation Boxes where I > can't see the content. Help! >

Adrian, That's fine if you have a definite birth date. But if someone was born before statutory registration and you can't find a baptism (or you think they may not have been an infant when baptised) you have to build up a date 'range' for their birth based on ages recorded in other documents. These are not likely to be fully compatible with each other. I find that dispalying the age RECORDED at each event in the property box makes it easy to see where the estimated birth date range came from. And you can see at a glance if a recorded age is incompatible with your estimated birth date range because it will show up with an exclamation mark. Lorna On 21/11/2011 19:52, Adrian Bruce wrote: > I'll be a bit contrary here - why put the age in at all against a fact? If > you've got something about the birth (as surely you will have if you've got > an age), then FH will automatically generate an age (or age range) for the > fact to show in the individual's facts-tab. >

<<snipped>> ... I think this is a general issue in FH. Often ages of infants are recorded on censuses and at burial as a number of days, weeks or months, but I can only get FH to accept days or months and not weeks. I've been wondering myself if I'm missing something obvious,... <<snipped>> I'll be a bit contrary here - why put the age in at all against a fact? If you've got something about the birth (as surely you will have if you've got an age), then FH will automatically generate an age (or age range) for the fact to show in the individual's facts-tab. I always regard what goes into facts as being my conclusion about the fact and if I know that someone's knocked 3y off their age at marriage, why would I want to put the erroneous age in? I'd rather put a note in that said "X knocked 3y off her age rather than be seen to marry a much younger man." Adrian B

Thanks for the explanation Lorna. That's what I have been doing - converting 14 weeks to 3 months but I only just found the box that gives the options of stillborn/days/months/years etc. whilst looking for weeks! I will have to go back sometime and do some alterations. Anne Anne Cole, President, Lincolnshire Family History Society Duncalf(e)/Duncuff/Duncuft One-name Study GOONS member 513 http://www.one-name.org/profiles/duncalf.html Lincolnshire Post 1837 Marriage Index http://mi.lincolnshiremarriages.org.uk/ Lincolnshire Family History Society http://www.lincolnshirefhs.org.uk > -----Original Message----- > From: family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:family- > historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lorna Craig > Sent: 21 November 2011 19:41 > To: family-historian-users@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [FHU] Ages at death > > This is because the Gedcom specification only recognises age in years, > months, days, (or above/below an age in years, months, days), or > Stillborn, Infant or Child. If FH permitted age in weeks it would be > departing from the Gedcom standard. > Where an age is found recorded in weeks the actual age is unlikely to > have been an exact multiple of 7 days, so I think the best course is to > enter the age as 'younger than' or 'older than' an age in months, and > put an explanation in the note field. > > Lorna > > > On 21/11/2011 18:56, Bob Brock (general mail) wrote: > > I think this is a general issue in FH. Often ages of infants are > recorded on > > censuses and at burial as a number of days, weeks or months, but I can > only > > get FH to accept days or months and not weeks. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN- > USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

This is because the Gedcom specification only recognises age in years, months, days, (or above/below an age in years, months, days), or Stillborn, Infant or Child. If FH permitted age in weeks it would be departing from the Gedcom standard. Where an age is found recorded in weeks the actual age is unlikely to have been an exact multiple of 7 days, so I think the best course is to enter the age as 'younger than' or 'older than' an age in months, and put an explanation in the note field. Lorna On 21/11/2011 18:56, Bob Brock (general mail) wrote: > I think this is a general issue in FH. Often ages of infants are recorded on > censuses and at burial as a number of days, weeks or months, but I can only > get FH to accept days or months and not weeks.

I think this is a general issue in FH. Often ages of infants are recorded on censuses and at burial as a number of days, weeks or months, but I can only get FH to accept days or months and not weeks. I've been wondering myself if I'm missing something obvious, but haven't delved any deeper. Perhaps someone more experienced can enlighten me! Bob

BODY { font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12px; } BODY { font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12px; } Hello FH, Anothr no doubt silly query from me but I can't find the solution in the FH Book; a shutter comes down automatically over some of my citations as I enter them; I didn't knowingly set this up and I don't know how to reverse it but it is proving a problem as I am checking a set of 900 + entries and therefore can't remember whether or not I entered the correct citation in those Citation Boxes where I can't see the content. Help! My heart soars at the prospect of an Indexing option in FH5; at the moment in order to make a "book" out of each Outline and Narrative Report I print out, I first make a List of all the names in that particular branch of the family, print this out twice and then enter by hand against each name the relationship to me, the FH Reference, and the page number (which of course differs in each case between the Outline Report and the Narrative Report); in addition, as soon as any alteration or additions to the content are made to these entries in FH, then the corresponding Index is immediately out of date and the page numbers and references don't then always respond to my Indexes. It will be marvellous if the Index option has an automatic updating function. Congrats in advance if it does. Regards, Val

I understand Anne. I haven't come across an instance when the days of the death of a child is given. Victor On 21/11/2011 5:28 PM, Anne Cole wrote: > I expect so Victor :-) I mean in the Age box for death and burial facts. > > Anne > > Anne Cole, President, Lincolnshire Family History Society > > Duncalf(e)/Duncuff/Duncuft One-name Study GOONS member 513 > > http://www.one-name.org/profiles/duncalf.html > > Lincolnshire Post 1837 Marriage Index > > http://mi.lincolnshiremarriages.org.uk/ > > Lincolnshire Family History Society > > http://www.lincolnshirefhs.org.uk > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:family- >> historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Victor Markham >> Sent: 21 November 2011 17:18 >> To: family-historian-users@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [FHU] Ages at death >> >> I would like to do that myself. I presume you are referring to Ancestral >> Sources >> >> Victor >> >> On 21/11/2011 4:23 PM, Anne Cole wrote: >>> Is there any reason why I can put ages as days, months or years but not >>> weeks? Is there anything I can do to add the weeks option? >>> >>> Anne >>> >>> Anne Cole, President, Lincolnshire Family History Society >>> >>> Duncalf(e)/Duncuff/Duncuft One-name Study GOONS member 513 >>> >>> http://www.one-name.org/profiles/duncalf.html >>> >>> Lincolnshire Post 1837 Marriage Index >>> >>> http://mi.lincolnshiremarriages.org.uk/ >>> >>> Lincolnshire Family History Society >>> >>> http://www.lincolnshirefhs.org.uk >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN- >> USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN- >> USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I expect so Victor :-) I mean in the Age box for death and burial facts. Anne Anne Cole, President, Lincolnshire Family History Society Duncalf(e)/Duncuff/Duncuft One-name Study GOONS member 513 http://www.one-name.org/profiles/duncalf.html Lincolnshire Post 1837 Marriage Index http://mi.lincolnshiremarriages.org.uk/ Lincolnshire Family History Society http://www.lincolnshirefhs.org.uk > -----Original Message----- > From: family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:family- > historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Victor Markham > Sent: 21 November 2011 17:18 > To: family-historian-users@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [FHU] Ages at death > > I would like to do that myself. I presume you are referring to Ancestral > Sources > > Victor > > On 21/11/2011 4:23 PM, Anne Cole wrote: > > Is there any reason why I can put ages as days, months or years but not > > weeks? Is there anything I can do to add the weeks option? > > > > Anne > > > > Anne Cole, President, Lincolnshire Family History Society > > > > Duncalf(e)/Duncuff/Duncuft One-name Study GOONS member 513 > > > > http://www.one-name.org/profiles/duncalf.html > > > > Lincolnshire Post 1837 Marriage Index > > > > http://mi.lincolnshiremarriages.org.uk/ > > > > Lincolnshire Family History Society > > > > http://www.lincolnshirefhs.org.uk > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN- > USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN- > USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

I'm rather hoping that it will also have UTF-8 support too! Best regards Roger Mitchell rdm@mfo.me.uk http://mfo.me.uk -----Original Message----- From: family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Robert Warnock Sent: 21 November 2011 17:10 To: FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS@rootsweb.com Subject: [FHU] Notes imported from GenBox I am contemplating changing from GenBox to Family Historian and am at present playing with the free trial of the latter. In GenBox I have the transcripts of many BMD certificates as notes which print out fine with each separate event. However when I export my database as a Gedcom file and then use this with FH all the notes run on after the other and have various lines such as Date \tab 14 February 1861. I can not find the text of these notes anywhere in FH and would like to know how to export from GenBox correctly. Looking at the Gedcom file the lines seem to be things like 3 CONT BIRTH 3 CONT \b0 Name\tab William Smith 3 CONT Date\tab West Calder ..... (I believe from the GenBox user group that v5 of FH will be able to import directly form GenBox so it's probably not worth bothering too much with v4 if it involves too much work. Will the new version be able to import notes correctly?) Any help greatly appreciated Bob Warnock ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I would like to do that myself. I presume you are referring to Ancestral Sources Victor On 21/11/2011 4:23 PM, Anne Cole wrote: > Is there any reason why I can put ages as days, months or years but not > weeks? Is there anything I can do to add the weeks option? > > Anne > > Anne Cole, President, Lincolnshire Family History Society > > Duncalf(e)/Duncuff/Duncuft One-name Study GOONS member 513 > > http://www.one-name.org/profiles/duncalf.html > > Lincolnshire Post 1837 Marriage Index > > http://mi.lincolnshiremarriages.org.uk/ > > Lincolnshire Family History Society > > http://www.lincolnshirefhs.org.uk > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am contemplating changing from GenBox to Family Historian and am at present playing with the free trial of the latter. In GenBox I have the transcripts of many BMD certificates as notes which print out fine with each separate event. However when I export my database as a Gedcom file and then use this with FH all the notes run on after the other and have various lines such as Date \tab 14 February 1861. I can not find the text of these notes anywhere in FH and would like to know how to export from GenBox correctly. Looking at the Gedcom file the lines seem to be things like 3 CONT BIRTH 3 CONT \b0 Name\tab William Smith 3 CONT Date\tab West Calder ..... (I believe from the GenBox user group that v5 of FH will be able to import directly form GenBox so it's probably not worth bothering too much with v4 if it involves too much work. Will the new version be able to import notes correctly?) Any help greatly appreciated Bob Warnock

Is there any reason why I can put ages as days, months or years but not weeks? Is there anything I can do to add the weeks option? Anne Anne Cole, President, Lincolnshire Family History Society Duncalf(e)/Duncuff/Duncuft One-name Study GOONS member 513 http://www.one-name.org/profiles/duncalf.html Lincolnshire Post 1837 Marriage Index http://mi.lincolnshiremarriages.org.uk/ Lincolnshire Family History Society http://www.lincolnshirefhs.org.uk

The settings for added trees are shared with the original tree so you won't be able to use a different font. As far as I can see only the root box on the main diagram is coloured based on the root setting, so you will need to colour the box using a flag or expression, to get the duplcate boxes coloured as well. If you really need the other trees on the same diagram you could save them to picture files (png perhaps) and add them back in as pictures. On 20 November 2011 18:54, <stevens@nwthree.demon.co.uk> wrote: > I have prepared a large all relatives family tree diagram -- Jane. Jane Taubman | www.rjt.org.uk | www.taubman.org.uk |www.fhug.org.uk

Robert, Checking further I have one correction to what I wrote. Both research and event note entries from Genbox are found in the Notes text box of a Fact in Family Historian from my GEDCOM. It is the Notes tab for an individual (in Genbox) that displays in the Notes tab for an individual in Family Historian. If you are finding all your notes, both events and individual, from Genbox running together you might check how you are selecting output from Genbox for your GEDCOM. Each of the various tabs in the GEDCOM output have options. Best, Denise L. Moss-Fritch -----Original Message----- From: family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Denise L. Moss-Fritch Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 10:40 AM To: family-historian-users@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FHU] Notes imported from GenBox Good Day Robert, A question first if I may. In Genbox where are your notes attached? Are your notes in the General Notes for Event or Research Notes for Event boxes? If you select View > Lists > Records > Notes, are the notes listed and number individually in sequence? Finally, when you export to a GEDCOM from Genbox, is the Research notes check box selected from the Data Content tab? All my notes, about 1,500, show in Family Historian 4 on the Notes tab for each individual. In Family Historian 4, each note is associated with the individual, not the specific Event (or Fact in Family Historian) as you would find in Genbox. Does that help? Best, Denise L. Moss-Fritch -----Original Message----- From: family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Robert Warnock Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 9:10 AM To: FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS@rootsweb.com Subject: [FHU] Notes imported from GenBox I am contemplating changing from GenBox to Family Historian and am at present playing with the free trial of the latter. In GenBox I have the transcripts of many BMD certificates as notes which print out fine with each separate event. However when I export my database as a Gedcom file and then use this with FH all the notes run on after the other and have various lines such as Date \tab 14 February 1861. I can not find the text of these notes anywhere in FH and would like to know how to export from GenBox correctly. Looking at the Gedcom file the lines seem to be things like 3 CONT BIRTH 3 CONT \b0 Name\tab William Smith 3 CONT Date\tab West Calder ..... (I believe from the GenBox user group that v5 of FH will be able to import directly form GenBox so it's probably not worth bothering too much with v4 if it involves too much work. Will the new version be able to import notes correctly?) Any help greatly appreciated Bob Warnock ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Good Day Robert, A question first if I may. In Genbox where are your notes attached? Are your notes in the General Notes for Event or Research Notes for Event boxes? If you select View > Lists > Records > Notes, are the notes listed and number individually in sequence? Finally, when you export to a GEDCOM from Genbox, is the Research notes check box selected from the Data Content tab? All my notes, about 1,500, show in Family Historian 4 on the Notes tab for each individual. In Family Historian 4, each note is associated with the individual, not the specific Event (or Fact in Family Historian) as you would find in Genbox. Does that help? Best, Denise L. Moss-Fritch -----Original Message----- From: family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Robert Warnock Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 9:10 AM To: FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS@rootsweb.com Subject: [FHU] Notes imported from GenBox I am contemplating changing from GenBox to Family Historian and am at present playing with the free trial of the latter. In GenBox I have the transcripts of many BMD certificates as notes which print out fine with each separate event. However when I export my database as a Gedcom file and then use this with FH all the notes run on after the other and have various lines such as Date \tab 14 February 1861. I can not find the text of these notes anywhere in FH and would like to know how to export from GenBox correctly. Looking at the Gedcom file the lines seem to be things like 3 CONT BIRTH 3 CONT \b0 Name\tab William Smith 3 CONT Date\tab West Calder ..... (I believe from the GenBox user group that v5 of FH will be able to import directly form GenBox so it's probably not worth bothering too much with v4 if it involves too much work. Will the new version be able to import notes correctly?) Any help greatly appreciated Bob Warnock ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message