Thanks for that Jane - but will they automatically get backed up with the project? Are they part of the .ged file?   Andrea ________________________________ From: Jane Taubman <janetaubman@gmail.com> To: Andrea Kent <andrea.kent@btopenworld.com>; family-historian-users@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, 25 November 2011, 20:08 Subject: Re: [FHU] Flags On 25 November 2011 19:57, Andrea Kent <andrea.kent@btopenworld.com> wrote: > C:\Program Data\Calico Pie\Family Historian, which has 3 - Living, Private & Speculative. But in FH, I have 6 - the others for Twin, Never Married, and Died without issue (d.s.p). So where are those held? I think Flags are only in listed in that file if you set them using the Flag status to Always include,  but Family Historian will also list and Flags which also exist in the currently opened project.  So if your project has the flags in it you will see them,  if you open an empty project you will only see the ones listed in the settings file. -- Jane. Jane Taubman | www.rjt.org.uk | www.taubman.org.uk |www.fhug.org.uk

On 25 November 2011 19:57, Andrea Kent <andrea.kent@btopenworld.com> wrote: > C:\Program Data\Calico Pie\Family Historian, which has 3 - Living, Private & Speculative. But in FH, I have 6 - the others for Twin, Never Married, and Died without issue (d.s.p). So where are those held? I think Flags are only in listed in that file if you set them using the Flag status to Always include, but Family Historian will also list and Flags which also exist in the currently opened project. So if your project has the flags in it you will see them, if you open an empty project you will only see the ones listed in the settings file. -- Jane. Jane Taubman | www.rjt.org.uk | www.taubman.org.uk |www.fhug.org.uk

Stranger and stranger - like Ian, I have also checked my flags.fha files (using Win7), and found 2 copies, one in  C:\Program Files (x86)\Family Historian with 2 flags (this I presume is the base one which comes with the software), and one in  C:\Program Data\Calico Pie\Family Historian, which has 3 - Living, Private & Speculative. But in FH, I have 6 - the others for Twin, Never Married, and Died without issue (d.s.p). So where are those held? Thanks in advance for any light shed on this!   Regards, Andrea ________________________________ From: Ian Thirlwell <fh.thirlwell@ntlworld.com> To: family-historian-users@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, 25 November 2011, 19:20 Subject: Re: [FHU] Flags This thread has prompted me to check my system since it is a while since I created any new flags. The question is where are they all, as I have now forgotten? The Flags.fha file in the folder under ProgramData (Win7) only has three defined: Living, Private and Not Married. Where are all the others, census, BMD etc that show in the list when I want to add one to an individual? Ian -----Original Message----- From: Beryl & Mike Tate Sent: Friday, November 25, 2011 6:14 PM To: family-historian-users@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FHU] Flags Have you inspected the \Calico Pie\Family Historian\Flags\Flags.fha file? Its location depends on Windows operating system. XP is at C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\ Vista & 7 at C:\ProgramData\ (BTW this is an important folder to backup regularly.) The Flags.fha file is plain text and should look like: [.index] Count=4 [Flag1] Name=Living Tag=__LIVING [Flag2] Name=Private Tag=__PRIVATE [Flag3] Name=Marriage 1 Tag=__MARRIAGE_1 [Flag4] Name=Marriage 2 Tag=__MARRIAGE_2 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This thread has prompted me to check my system since it is a while since I created any new flags. The question is where are they all, as I have now forgotten? The Flags.fha file in the folder under ProgramData (Win7) only has three defined: Living, Private and Not Married. Where are all the others, census, BMD etc that show in the list when I want to add one to an individual? Ian -----Original Message----- From: Beryl & Mike Tate Sent: Friday, November 25, 2011 6:14 PM To: family-historian-users@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FHU] Flags Have you inspected the \Calico Pie\Family Historian\Flags\Flags.fha file? Its location depends on Windows operating system. XP is at C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\ Vista & 7 at C:\ProgramData\ (BTW this is an important folder to backup regularly.) The Flags.fha file is plain text and should look like: [.index] Count=4 [Flag1] Name=Living Tag=__LIVING [Flag2] Name=Private Tag=__PRIVATE [Flag3] Name=Marriage 1 Tag=__MARRIAGE_1 [Flag4] Name=Marriage 2 Tag=__MARRIAGE_2

Have you inspected the \Calico Pie\Family Historian\Flags\Flags.fha file? Its location depends on Windows operating system. XP is at C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\ Vista & 7 at C:\ProgramData\ (BTW this is an important folder to backup regularly.) The Flags.fha file is plain text and should look like: [.index] Count=4 [Flag1] Name=Living Tag=__LIVING [Flag2] Name=Private Tag=__PRIVATE [Flag3] Name=Marriage 1 Tag=__MARRIAGE_1 [Flag4] Name=Marriage 2 Tag=__MARRIAGE_2 -----Original Message----- From: family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of robacis@btinternet.com Sent: 25 November 2011 18:00 To: family-historian-users@rootsweb.com Cc: info@calico-pie.com Subject: Re: [FHU] Flags Hello victor thanks for your reply. I am reasonably conversant with how databases work but this one has got me beat. My sister and I each have a copy of FH Version 4 running on two computers in her case and a laptop in my case. we each have separate gedcom files for our family histories on separate memory sticks. my sister who is less experienced wanted me to show her how to use Ancestral Sources. I created all the census flags in FH and AS and prepared a census entry in AS. I saved the file and at the same time ran census flag check in AS. so I cannot be sure exactly when the error occurred either on the census update or the flag check When I returned to FH there was a strange error message which I did not unfortunately record however it said something like a file had stopped working but the family history data did show up. A mysterious thing is that all the image files were lost in FH not just showing the images with a cross but no images at all. I restored the gedcom file from a backup and fortunately the image files were there but crossed out so it was relatively easy to restore the external file links. I then tried to investigate where the problem lay and discovered that when I tried to add a flag manually i.e by right clicking the record and then set flag I found that only the 1851, 1871 and 1911 census fags were available. I then checked the diagram tools options boxes and found that all the flags were still there. AS had however updated the data from the census as a census source into the property box but without the flag I deleted these flags and recreated them, but still trying to add them manually resulted in the same thing ie only the 51, 71, and 1911 flags were available to be set manually. this lead me to rule out AS as the cause of the problem. I then loaded my gedcom file on to my sisters laptop and found that everything was working fine with all my flags showing and, replacing my sister's gedcom file showed the same error with the flags. the gedcom file itself cannot be corrupted as it doesnt contain any flag data so it seems and FH is not able to read the flags properly or to make any changes to them, Robacis -----Original Message----- From: Victor Markham Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 4:07 PM To: family-historian-users@rootsweb.com Cc: robacis@btinternet.com Subject: Re: [FHU] Flags Crashes this way do tend to happen when you are saving Ancestral Sources and try to open FH at the same time. It also happens when saving FH and opening AS. I have never had any problems with census flags. It will help if you can remember what you were doing at the time of the crash Victor On 23/11/2011 3:56 PM, robacis@btinternet.com wrote: > I have been an FH User for some without a problem until now. Whilst > transferring data from Ancestral Sources to FH, the FH program appears to > have become corrupted and crashed. That in itself did not cause much > concern as I was able to restore a back up. The problem seems to be to do > with the census flags. I have isolated what I think the problem is but > cannot resolve it. In the diagram> options>boxes I have created census > flags 1841 to 1911. However the program does not appear to recognise this, > as when I try to set a flag manually against a record only 1851, 1871 and > 1911 appear in the drop down box. Could anyone advise on remedies for this > robacis > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello victor thanks for your reply. I am reasonably conversant with how databases work but this one has got me beat. My sister and I each have a copy of FH Version 4 running on two computers in her case and a laptop in my case. we each have separate gedcom files for our family histories on separate memory sticks. my sister who is less experienced wanted me to show her how to use Ancestral Sources. I created all the census flags in FH and AS and prepared a census entry in AS. I saved the file and at the same time ran census flag check in AS. so I cannot be sure exactly when the error occurred either on the census update or the flag check When I returned to FH there was a strange error message which I did not unfortunately record however it said something like a file had stopped working but the family history data did show up. A mysterious thing is that all the image files were lost in FH not just showing the images with a cross but no images at all. I restored the gedcom file from a backup and fortunately the image files were there but crossed out so it was relatively easy to restore the external file links. I then tried to investigate where the problem lay and discovered that when I tried to add a flag manually i.e by right clicking the record and then set flag I found that only the 1851, 1871 and 1911 census fags were available. I then checked the diagram tools options boxes and found that all the flags were still there. AS had however updated the data from the census as a census source into the property box but without the flag I deleted these flags and recreated them, but still trying to add them manually resulted in the same thing ie only the 51, 71, and 1911 flags were available to be set manually. this lead me to rule out AS as the cause of the problem. I then loaded my gedcom file on to my sisters laptop and found that everything was working fine with all my flags showing and, replacing my sister's gedcom file showed the same error with the flags. the gedcom file itself cannot be corrupted as it doesnt contain any flag data so it seems and FH is not able to read the flags properly or to make any changes to them, Robacis -----Original Message----- From: Victor Markham Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 4:07 PM To: family-historian-users@rootsweb.com Cc: robacis@btinternet.com Subject: Re: [FHU] Flags Crashes this way do tend to happen when you are saving Ancestral Sources and try to open FH at the same time. It also happens when saving FH and opening AS. I have never had any problems with census flags. It will help if you can remember what you were doing at the time of the crash Victor On 23/11/2011 3:56 PM, robacis@btinternet.com wrote: > I have been an FH User for some without a problem until now. Whilst > transferring data from Ancestral Sources to FH, the FH program appears to > have become corrupted and crashed. That in itself did not cause much > concern as I was able to restore a back up. The problem seems to be to do > with the census flags. I have isolated what I think the problem is but > cannot resolve it. In the diagram> options>boxes I have created census > flags 1841 to 1911. However the program does not appear to recognise this, > as when I try to set a flag manually against a record only 1851, 1871 and > 1911 appear in the drop down box. Could anyone advise on remedies for this > robacis > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Alan, Are you talking about the Spouse of the Individual who you have chosen as the Root of your All Relatives Diagram? If so, then in the All Relatives Diagram with the Root Individual still selected, hold down the Ctrl key and select the Spouse box. While both Spouse boxes are selected, click the All Relatives Diagram option again. Regards, Mike Tate -----Original Message----- From: family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Cuddlybear Sent: 24 November 2011 20:00 To: family-historian-users@rootsweb.com Subject: [FHU] Linking charts Hi I have imported a Genbox generated Gedcom and not all the families are connected. So far this was not a problem as I have been able to connect them manually. I have produced a chart with family from grandchild to 10Xg grandfather on one side of the family only. When trying to add the family of the other spouse I keep producing another chart. How can I get both charts into one or how do I enter the links in the original chart? Alan ______________________________________________ This email has been scanned by Westcoastcloud. http://www.westcoastcloud.com/

On 24 November 2011 20:00, Cuddlybear <cuddlybear@gecko.myzen.co.uk> wrote: > When trying to add the family of the other spouse I keep producing another chart. How can I get both charts into one or how do I enter the links in the original chart? I am not really clear who the "other spouse" is. Assuming you are using the All relatives diagram, the design of the diagram will not show spouses of spouses. If you want to add additional trees for these people to your chart simply right click and select Add Tree on the the diagram background. -- Jane. Jane Taubman | www.rjt.org.uk | www.taubman.org.uk |www.fhug.org.uk

Hi Victor Yes, I had a problem with one census sheet in the 1851, of the 20 lines there are 5 different named families and I am related to everyone on the page and the next 4 lines of the next page. The image(s) is filed under 1851/banks/...., this being the dominant family. But due to the ease of use of FH I only have to go to the Multimedia tab, find the image and there are listed all of the families on that page. If I am in the individual screen, again just hit the multimedia tab and there is the link to the image, again with all the families to view. Or double click on the media filename and I am taken to the multimedia tab on the records window, again all families listed. Easy peasy with FH David -----Original Message----- From: family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Victor Markham Sent: 24 November 2011 18:41 To: family-historian-users@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FHU] Help re Media please Hi David I have the census images listed in folders under each each census year. I save the images by the census reference number e.g.(for 1881) RG11-3300_Fo-30_Page-10 (that is just a made up reference) I don't think saving them under a place and name helps because there are times when different familes live under the same roof e.g. parent's and married daughter and her children so where will you find the married daughter? Victor On 24/11/2011 6:04 PM, David Banks wrote: > Hi > > Just picking up on Victor's comments I have my census images filed in > folders under the major names in my database i.e. banks/1841, banks/1851 > etc., cottington/1841, cottington/1851 etc. This makes filing and finding > them extremely easy. But I also are very careful how I name the image files. > I always start with the year, followed by the surname/first name, followed > by the birth date (if known) and then by something else which I may find > useful i.e. "1841 Banks Albert 1803 in Seaford". This also means that if a > file gets misplaced in the wrong year/name folder it sticks out like a sore > thumb. > In addition, if you have windows, you can ask it to do an 'all folder > search' say for "* Banks Albert *" and get a list of all Albert Bank's > images for all censuses. > > David > > -----Original Message----- > From: family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Victor > Markham > Sent: 24 November 2011 10:39 > To: family-historian-users@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [FHU] Help re Media please > > Laraine > > Jane suggests creating a folder in Windows (assuming you have Windows) > > This is what I have done. One thing you must bear in mind that you need > to locate the media. It is fine if you only have a few but as things > develop with many more items added to the media you will find it hard to > locate them. For this reason I have created a large number of files. > These files are headed by surname (for family names), Certificates (with > sub files for birth, marriage and deaths, church photos, cemetery > headstones the list goes on. When you are adding a media to FH just copy > from the appropriate folder. Having the folders set up like I have done > makes it easier to locate what you are looking for. > > Victor > > On 24/11/2011 8:38 AM, Jane Taubman wrote: >> On 24 November 2011 08:34, Laraine Hake<laraine10@btinternet.com> wrote: >>> OK - I have accessed Tools>Work with External files ...............as you >>> suggest. The folder in question has a X through it.................where >>> can I find out more on how to solve it please? >> If the folder is in the media folder eg it shows as >> /media/foldername >> >> Then probably the simplest way is to use Windows to create the folder >> inside the media folder and copy the missing pictures into the folder, >> alternately make a better named folder in the media folder and copy >> the missing pictures in and then use the remap tool to select the new >> folder to replace the deleted one. >> >> >> >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi I have imported a Genbox generated Gedcom and not all the families are connected. So far this was not a problem as I have been able to connect them manually. I have produced a chart with family from grandchild to 10Xg grandfather on one side of the family only. When trying to add the family of the other spouse I keep producing another chart. How can I get both charts into one or how do I enter the links in the original chart? Alan

Hi Laraine, Don't panic! There are two approaches to sorting out the muddle, and which is the best to use may depend on how many images you have already linked. In either method, decide in advance exactly how you want to organise your images, and set up sub-folders within the Media folder accordingly. That will make it easy to get future images in the right place. As you say, you could start again from scratch. This might be easiest if nearly all the links seem to be wrong and there is no pattern to the problem. But it might be quicker to use the 'Re-map' facility in the Work with External File Links box. Try this if the number of links showing up with Xs is not too great, or if there are lots wrong but it is just a matter of most of them being in Folder A while FH is looking for them in Folder B. Open up the 'Work with External File Links' box and click on the 'Help' button in the bottom corner. This will guide you through what you need to do. (This is a good tip when you get stuck in FH: look for a 'Help' button!) Good luck, Lorna > Not quite sure what to do next - I do have ideas for the future, but not > sure how to sort out the existing links which are now showing up as Xs. > Thinks........could I unlink them and try again............that might be > next move. > > Laraine >

Hi David I have the census images listed in folders under each each census year. I save the images by the census reference number e.g.(for 1881) RG11-3300_Fo-30_Page-10 (that is just a made up reference) I don't think saving them under a place and name helps because there are times when different familes live under the same roof e.g. parent's and married daughter and her children so where will you find the married daughter? Victor On 24/11/2011 6:04 PM, David Banks wrote: > Hi > > Just picking up on Victor's comments I have my census images filed in > folders under the major names in my database i.e. banks/1841, banks/1851 > etc., cottington/1841, cottington/1851 etc. This makes filing and finding > them extremely easy. But I also are very careful how I name the image files. > I always start with the year, followed by the surname/first name, followed > by the birth date (if known) and then by something else which I may find > useful i.e. "1841 Banks Albert 1803 in Seaford". This also means that if a > file gets misplaced in the wrong year/name folder it sticks out like a sore > thumb. > In addition, if you have windows, you can ask it to do an 'all folder > search' say for "* Banks Albert *" and get a list of all Albert Bank's > images for all censuses. > > David > > -----Original Message----- > From: family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Victor > Markham > Sent: 24 November 2011 10:39 > To: family-historian-users@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [FHU] Help re Media please > > Laraine > > Jane suggests creating a folder in Windows (assuming you have Windows) > > This is what I have done. One thing you must bear in mind that you need > to locate the media. It is fine if you only have a few but as things > develop with many more items added to the media you will find it hard to > locate them. For this reason I have created a large number of files. > These files are headed by surname (for family names), Certificates (with > sub files for birth, marriage and deaths, church photos, cemetery > headstones the list goes on. When you are adding a media to FH just copy > from the appropriate folder. Having the folders set up like I have done > makes it easier to locate what you are looking for. > > Victor > > On 24/11/2011 8:38 AM, Jane Taubman wrote: >> On 24 November 2011 08:34, Laraine Hake<laraine10@btinternet.com> wrote: >>> OK - I have accessed Tools>Work with External files ...............as you >>> suggest. The folder in question has a X through it.................where >>> can I find out more on how to solve it please? >> If the folder is in the media folder eg it shows as >> /media/foldername >> >> Then probably the simplest way is to use Windows to create the folder >> inside the media folder and copy the missing pictures into the folder, >> alternately make a better named folder in the media folder and copy >> the missing pictures in and then use the remap tool to select the new >> folder to replace the deleted one. >> >> >> >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you so very much to all of those who have tried to help me............in particular, Jane, Anne and Victor. I was succesful in accessing the media file via Windows, but tried to move things around within it (already linked..........dare I say) so now I am in a horrible mess to say the least........and doing my best to remain calm and collected...... [repeat Mantra............this is for pleasure, this is for pleasure.......] Not quite sure what to do next - I do have ideas for the future, but not sure how to sort out the existing links which are now showing up as Xs. Thinks........could I unlink them and try again............that might be next move. Laraine

Hi Just picking up on Victor's comments I have my census images filed in folders under the major names in my database i.e. banks/1841, banks/1851 etc., cottington/1841, cottington/1851 etc. This makes filing and finding them extremely easy. But I also are very careful how I name the image files. I always start with the year, followed by the surname/first name, followed by the birth date (if known) and then by something else which I may find useful i.e. "1841 Banks Albert 1803 in Seaford". This also means that if a file gets misplaced in the wrong year/name folder it sticks out like a sore thumb. In addition, if you have windows, you can ask it to do an 'all folder search' say for "* Banks Albert *" and get a list of all Albert Bank's images for all censuses. David -----Original Message----- From: family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Victor Markham Sent: 24 November 2011 10:39 To: family-historian-users@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FHU] Help re Media please Laraine Jane suggests creating a folder in Windows (assuming you have Windows) This is what I have done. One thing you must bear in mind that you need to locate the media. It is fine if you only have a few but as things develop with many more items added to the media you will find it hard to locate them. For this reason I have created a large number of files. These files are headed by surname (for family names), Certificates (with sub files for birth, marriage and deaths, church photos, cemetery headstones the list goes on. When you are adding a media to FH just copy from the appropriate folder. Having the folders set up like I have done makes it easier to locate what you are looking for. Victor On 24/11/2011 8:38 AM, Jane Taubman wrote: > On 24 November 2011 08:34, Laraine Hake<laraine10@btinternet.com> wrote: >> OK - I have accessed Tools>Work with External files ...............as you >> suggest. The folder in question has a X through it.................where >> can I find out more on how to solve it please? > If the folder is in the media folder eg it shows as > /media/foldername > > Then probably the simplest way is to use Windows to create the folder > inside the media folder and copy the missing pictures into the folder, > alternately make a better named folder in the media folder and copy > the missing pictures in and then use the remap tool to select the new > folder to replace the deleted one. > > > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have the same problem with Notes, Victor, where for example in a lease three or four people are mentioned. I did think that perhaps I would use the source citation, but then I need a fact to go with it! Also, one of the removal orders I have mentions 10 people! I have no facts at present for any of the poor law documents, and I have no idea how to make them. I did, some years ago, correspond with Jane about a facts set for poor law but have had no time to think about it. Perhaps now that Lincolnshire Archives is closed and I am awash with spare time I could do that now. Is there someone who could make the facts set if I give the relevant information? I tend, when sending information out to others, to use individual narrative reports, knitting together the PDF files to make one long one. I haven't done it for a while now, so have forgotten where, but there is something that you can tick not to have duplicate notes for the children in an individual narrative. Anne Anne Cole, President, Lincolnshire Family History Society Duncalf(e)/Duncuff/Duncuft One-name Study GOONS member 513 http://www.one-name.org/profiles/duncalf.html Lincolnshire Post 1837 Marriage Index http://mi.lincolnshiremarriages.org.uk/ Lincolnshire Family History Society http://www.lincolnshirefhs.org.uk > -----Original Message----- > From: family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:family- > historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Victor Markham > Sent: 24 November 2011 11:21 > To: family-historian-users@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [FHU] Help re Media please > > Ann > > We are basically doing both the same things but I don't have the > separate files in the media folder. I have these listed as sub folders > under the main folder of Family Information. Whatever way you do > wouldn't make much difference. Or does it? > > One problem I am having at the moment is that when I use the same > picture (a church for example) for two or more people instead of this > appearing in the narrative report once it appears, if I used it for 3 > people, it appears 3 times. That is one thing I am trying to resolve and > ma looking at the hand book. I bought a printed version of this. > > Victor > > On 24/11/2011 11:08 AM, Anne Cole wrote: > > Laraine, > > > > I am absolutely hopeless with files and things and my pictures were in a > > mess, so my good friend Anne Algar sorted me out. > > > > I now go through the following : > > Family Historian Projects (accessed from "Documents" - Windows 7) > > Duncalf FH > > Duncalf FH.fh_data > > Media > > > > In the "Media" folder I have sub folders for BTs CMB, PRs CMB, Poor Law, > > Courts, Census etc. and just add new sub folders as I need them. Under > each > > sub folder I have separate folders for individual sources i.e. Baps, > Mars, > > Burials or Removal Orders, Bastardy Examinations etc. I simply save > images > > into the appropriate folder and link them to the person or family from > > there. It also makes it easy for me to find an individual picture if I > want > > to do something else with it. I am getting on for 7000 images now that > the > > Cheshire PRs have come online :-) > > > > I still have a few images with the X through them, linked before I was > > sorted out, but now that I understand how the thing works I can easily > > remedy this. Also, I have discovered that if you make any change to the > name > > of the image that you are linking to, it will become unlinked, so it is > a > > good idea to work out what you want to call the images before you start. > I > > use "Bur Prestbury 1794 PR" for both the image name and the source > citation, > > and if I have events for different people in the image I use (1) and (2) > in > > the source citation, using the same image for both. I don't care if this > is > > the wrong way to do it - it works for me. > > > > Hope this helps. > > > > Anne > > > > > > > > Anne Cole, President, Lincolnshire Family History Society > > > > Duncalf(e)/Duncuff/Duncuft One-name Study GOONS member 513 > > > > http://www.one-name.org/profiles/duncalf.html > > > > Lincolnshire Post 1837 Marriage Index > > > > http://mi.lincolnshiremarriages.org.uk/ > > > > Lincolnshire Family History Society > > > > http://www.lincolnshirefhs.org.uk > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:family- > >> historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Laraine Hake > >> Sent: 24 November 2011 08:09 > >> To: family-historian-users@rootsweb.com > >> Subject: Re: [FHU] Help re Media please > >> > >> > >> > >> As a new user of FH, I am having a wonderful time adding photographs. > I > >> am > >> copying each one to the file within FH > >> > >> However...........this morning, I have some photographs not showing. > >> There > >> is an Error message "Unable to load objects. Error on file open" I > can > >> recognise that each of these photographs were stored within the same > >> folder > >> within FH - it is possible that I had not labelled it > >> correctly.........thinking back to yesterday, I could have deleted an > >> unlabelled "New Folder" not realising it was in use but that I had not > >> labelled it . > >> > >> My question is: How do I access and look at the structure of the media > >> files and folders other than when I am adding new media and it gives me > >> the > >> choice of where to save it. I have no doubt it is fairly > >> obvious............except to me right now! > >> > >> Many thanks > >> > >> Laraine Hake > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN- > >> USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > >> in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN- > USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN- > USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Ann We are basically doing both the same things but I don't have the separate files in the media folder. I have these listed as sub folders under the main folder of Family Information. Whatever way you do wouldn't make much difference. Or does it? One problem I am having at the moment is that when I use the same picture (a church for example) for two or more people instead of this appearing in the narrative report once it appears, if I used it for 3 people, it appears 3 times. That is one thing I am trying to resolve and ma looking at the hand book. I bought a printed version of this. Victor On 24/11/2011 11:08 AM, Anne Cole wrote: > Laraine, > > I am absolutely hopeless with files and things and my pictures were in a > mess, so my good friend Anne Algar sorted me out. > > I now go through the following : > Family Historian Projects (accessed from "Documents" - Windows 7) > Duncalf FH > Duncalf FH.fh_data > Media > > In the "Media" folder I have sub folders for BTs CMB, PRs CMB, Poor Law, > Courts, Census etc. and just add new sub folders as I need them. Under each > sub folder I have separate folders for individual sources i.e. Baps, Mars, > Burials or Removal Orders, Bastardy Examinations etc. I simply save images > into the appropriate folder and link them to the person or family from > there. It also makes it easy for me to find an individual picture if I want > to do something else with it. I am getting on for 7000 images now that the > Cheshire PRs have come online :-) > > I still have a few images with the X through them, linked before I was > sorted out, but now that I understand how the thing works I can easily > remedy this. Also, I have discovered that if you make any change to the name > of the image that you are linking to, it will become unlinked, so it is a > good idea to work out what you want to call the images before you start. I > use "Bur Prestbury 1794 PR" for both the image name and the source citation, > and if I have events for different people in the image I use (1) and (2) in > the source citation, using the same image for both. I don't care if this is > the wrong way to do it - it works for me. > > Hope this helps. > > Anne > > > > Anne Cole, President, Lincolnshire Family History Society > > Duncalf(e)/Duncuff/Duncuft One-name Study GOONS member 513 > > http://www.one-name.org/profiles/duncalf.html > > Lincolnshire Post 1837 Marriage Index > > http://mi.lincolnshiremarriages.org.uk/ > > Lincolnshire Family History Society > > http://www.lincolnshirefhs.org.uk > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:family- >> historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Laraine Hake >> Sent: 24 November 2011 08:09 >> To: family-historian-users@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [FHU] Help re Media please >> >> >> >> As a new user of FH, I am having a wonderful time adding photographs. I >> am >> copying each one to the file within FH >> >> However...........this morning, I have some photographs not showing. >> There >> is an Error message "Unable to load objects. Error on file open" I can >> recognise that each of these photographs were stored within the same >> folder >> within FH - it is possible that I had not labelled it >> correctly.........thinking back to yesterday, I could have deleted an >> unlabelled "New Folder" not realising it was in use but that I had not >> labelled it . >> >> My question is: How do I access and look at the structure of the media >> files and folders other than when I am adding new media and it gives me >> the >> choice of where to save it. I have no doubt it is fairly >> obvious............except to me right now! >> >> Many thanks >> >> Laraine Hake >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN- >> USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Laraine, I am absolutely hopeless with files and things and my pictures were in a mess, so my good friend Anne Algar sorted me out. I now go through the following : Family Historian Projects (accessed from "Documents" - Windows 7) Duncalf FH Duncalf FH.fh_data Media In the "Media" folder I have sub folders for BTs CMB, PRs CMB, Poor Law, Courts, Census etc. and just add new sub folders as I need them. Under each sub folder I have separate folders for individual sources i.e. Baps, Mars, Burials or Removal Orders, Bastardy Examinations etc. I simply save images into the appropriate folder and link them to the person or family from there. It also makes it easy for me to find an individual picture if I want to do something else with it. I am getting on for 7000 images now that the Cheshire PRs have come online :-) I still have a few images with the X through them, linked before I was sorted out, but now that I understand how the thing works I can easily remedy this. Also, I have discovered that if you make any change to the name of the image that you are linking to, it will become unlinked, so it is a good idea to work out what you want to call the images before you start. I use "Bur Prestbury 1794 PR" for both the image name and the source citation, and if I have events for different people in the image I use (1) and (2) in the source citation, using the same image for both. I don't care if this is the wrong way to do it - it works for me. Hope this helps. Anne Anne Cole, President, Lincolnshire Family History Society Duncalf(e)/Duncuff/Duncuft One-name Study GOONS member 513 http://www.one-name.org/profiles/duncalf.html Lincolnshire Post 1837 Marriage Index http://mi.lincolnshiremarriages.org.uk/ Lincolnshire Family History Society http://www.lincolnshirefhs.org.uk > -----Original Message----- > From: family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:family- > historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Laraine Hake > Sent: 24 November 2011 08:09 > To: family-historian-users@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [FHU] Help re Media please > > > > As a new user of FH, I am having a wonderful time adding photographs. I > am > copying each one to the file within FH > > However...........this morning, I have some photographs not showing. > There > is an Error message "Unable to load objects. Error on file open" I can > recognise that each of these photographs were stored within the same > folder > within FH - it is possible that I had not labelled it > correctly.........thinking back to yesterday, I could have deleted an > unlabelled "New Folder" not realising it was in use but that I had not > labelled it . > > My question is: How do I access and look at the structure of the media > files and folders other than when I am adding new media and it gives me > the > choice of where to save it. I have no doubt it is fairly > obvious............except to me right now! > > Many thanks > > Laraine Hake > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN- > USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Laraine Jane suggests creating a folder in Windows (assuming you have Windows) This is what I have done. One thing you must bear in mind that you need to locate the media. It is fine if you only have a few but as things develop with many more items added to the media you will find it hard to locate them. For this reason I have created a large number of files. These files are headed by surname (for family names), Certificates (with sub files for birth, marriage and deaths, church photos, cemetery headstones the list goes on. When you are adding a media to FH just copy from the appropriate folder. Having the folders set up like I have done makes it easier to locate what you are looking for. Victor On 24/11/2011 8:38 AM, Jane Taubman wrote: > On 24 November 2011 08:34, Laraine Hake<laraine10@btinternet.com> wrote: >> OK - I have accessed Tools>Work with External files ...............as you >> suggest. The folder in question has a X through it.................where >> can I find out more on how to solve it please? > If the folder is in the media folder eg it shows as > /media/foldername > > Then probably the simplest way is to use Windows to create the folder > inside the media folder and copy the missing pictures into the folder, > alternately make a better named folder in the media folder and copy > the missing pictures in and then use the remap tool to select the new > folder to replace the deleted one. > > > >

On 24 November 2011 08:34, Laraine Hake <laraine10@btinternet.com> wrote: > OK - I have accessed Tools >Work with External files ...............as you > suggest.  The folder in question has a X through it.................where > can I find out more on how to solve it please? If the folder is in the media folder eg it shows as /media/foldername Then probably the simplest way is to use Windows to create the folder inside the media folder and copy the missing pictures into the folder, alternately make a better named folder in the media folder and copy the missing pictures in and then use the remap tool to select the new folder to replace the deleted one. -- Jane. Jane Taubman | www.rjt.org.uk | www.taubman.org.uk |www.fhug.org.uk

OK - I have accessed Tools >Work with External files ...............as you suggest. The folder in question has a X through it.................where can I find out more on how to solve it please? -------------------------------------------------- From: "Jane Taubman" <janetaubman@gmail.com> Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2011 8:16 AM To: <family-historian-users@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [FHU] Help re Media please > On 24 November 2011 08:08, Laraine Hake <laraine10@btinternet.com> wrote: >> As a new user of FH, I am having a wonderful time adding photographs. I >> am >> copying each one to the file within FH > > Assuming you are using V4 with a project, you would be better letting > FH copy the files into your media folder for you when you add them. It > will copy them to the media folder for you. > > To sort out the broken ones you will need to use the Tools>Work With > External file links, which will show you the broken links and where > family historian is looking for them. You can then either copy the > files to the folder that FH is looking for them in or use the re-map > button to tell fh where the file is. > > -- > Jane. > > Jane Taubman | www.rjt.org.uk | www.taubman.org.uk |www.fhug.org.uk > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >