Mike I think I have solved my problem. The Media files weren't where you suggested in My Documents\Family Historian Projects\ > folder. They were filed elsewhere in Explorer. But I have managed to export the file successfully via flash drive to another computer. Thanks for your help. Paddy Buckley ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paddy Buckley" <paddy.buckley@lineone.net> To: <family-historian-users@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 3:41 PM Subject: Re: [FHU] Media files failing to import > Mike > > Your advice has got me worried that I may not be using Projects correctly. > When I go to File>Project Window> 28 projects are listed. When I go to My > Documents\Family Historian Projects\ only 8 projects are listed, all as > Compressed (zipped) Folders and all with much older modified dates and > none > with Media folders. > > The file on the flash drive that I want to export is only a gedcom file, > yet > when I export it back to my own computer it will open with all the > Multimedia images. > > How can I export a FH Project so that it will include the Media files? I > feel I'm missing something important here so if you could point me towards > the relevant page in the FH Handbook I should be most grateful. > Regards > Paddy Buckley > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Beryl & Mike Tate" <post@tatewise.co.uk> > To: <family-historian-users@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 2:50 PM > Subject: Re: [FHU] Media files failing to import > > >>I guess you have only exported the Gedcom (.ged) file which does NOT >>include any Multimedia image files that are stored separately. >> Basically you need to include all your image files on the flash drive as >> well. >> >> Since you are using FH V4 you might be using its Project structure in >> which Multimedia links use relative paths. >> The easiest approach is to use Windows Explorer and copy the entire >> folder >> structure for your Project onto the flash drive. >> This will be located with your My Documents\Family Historian Projects\ >> folder. >> This will include the Media folder in which you Multimedia image files >> should be located. >> >> You friend can then copy the entire folder structure to their My >> Documents\Family Historian Projects\ folder. >> >> If you are NOT using the V4 Project structure then it may not be so easy >> to transfer your Gedcom data because the Multimedia links >> will depend on each other's PC setup. >> >> Regards, Mike Tate >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Paddy >> Buckley >> Sent: 08 December 2011 11:22 >> To: family-historian-users@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [FHU] Media files failing to import >> >> I am trying to export a gedcom file via a flash drive device from my >> computer to a friend's computer; both operate on Vista; both >> have FH 4.1.3 purchased separately. All the data, except the media >> files, >> have been imported correctly. Clicking on the blank >> space where the media file is located, brings up the error message >> "unable >> to load object: error in file open". >> How can I correct this? I have the printed manual for FH but cannot find >> an answer to my problem. >> Paddy Buckley >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Mike Your advice has got me worried that I may not be using Projects correctly. When I go to File>Project Window> 28 projects are listed. When I go to My Documents\Family Historian Projects\ only 8 projects are listed, all as Compressed (zipped) Folders and all with much older modified dates and none with Media folders. The file on the flash drive that I want to export is only a gedcom file, yet when I export it back to my own computer it will open with all the Multimedia images. How can I export a FH Project so that it will include the Media files? I feel I'm missing something important here so if you could point me towards the relevant page in the FH Handbook I should be most grateful. Regards Paddy Buckley ----- Original Message ----- From: "Beryl & Mike Tate" <post@tatewise.co.uk> To: <family-historian-users@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 2:50 PM Subject: Re: [FHU] Media files failing to import >I guess you have only exported the Gedcom (.ged) file which does NOT >include any Multimedia image files that are stored separately. > Basically you need to include all your image files on the flash drive as > well. > > Since you are using FH V4 you might be using its Project structure in > which Multimedia links use relative paths. > The easiest approach is to use Windows Explorer and copy the entire folder > structure for your Project onto the flash drive. > This will be located with your My Documents\Family Historian Projects\ > folder. > This will include the Media folder in which you Multimedia image files > should be located. > > You friend can then copy the entire folder structure to their My > Documents\Family Historian Projects\ folder. > > If you are NOT using the V4 Project structure then it may not be so easy > to transfer your Gedcom data because the Multimedia links > will depend on each other's PC setup. > > Regards, Mike Tate > > -----Original Message----- > From: family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Paddy > Buckley > Sent: 08 December 2011 11:22 > To: family-historian-users@rootsweb.com > Subject: [FHU] Media files failing to import > > I am trying to export a gedcom file via a flash drive device from my > computer to a friend's computer; both operate on Vista; both > have FH 4.1.3 purchased separately. All the data, except the media files, > have been imported correctly. Clicking on the blank > space where the media file is located, brings up the error message "unable > to load object: error in file open". > How can I correct this? I have the printed manual for FH but cannot find > an answer to my problem. > Paddy Buckley > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I guess you have only exported the Gedcom (.ged) file which does NOT include any Multimedia image files that are stored separately. Basically you need to include all your image files on the flash drive as well. Since you are using FH V4 you might be using its Project structure in which Multimedia links use relative paths. The easiest approach is to use Windows Explorer and copy the entire folder structure for your Project onto the flash drive. This will be located with your My Documents\Family Historian Projects\ folder. This will include the Media folder in which you Multimedia image files should be located. You friend can then copy the entire folder structure to their My Documents\Family Historian Projects\ folder. If you are NOT using the V4 Project structure then it may not be so easy to transfer your Gedcom data because the Multimedia links will depend on each other's PC setup. Regards, Mike Tate -----Original Message----- From: family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Paddy Buckley Sent: 08 December 2011 11:22 To: family-historian-users@rootsweb.com Subject: [FHU] Media files failing to import I am trying to export a gedcom file via a flash drive device from my computer to a friend's computer; both operate on Vista; both have FH 4.1.3 purchased separately. All the data, except the media files, have been imported correctly. Clicking on the blank space where the media file is located, brings up the error message "unable to load object: error in file open". How can I correct this? I have the printed manual for FH but cannot find an answer to my problem. Paddy Buckley ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am trying to export a gedcom file via a flash drive device from my computer to a friend's computer; both operate on Vista; both have FH 4.1.3 purchased separately. All the data, except the media files, have been imported correctly. Clicking on the blank space where the media file is located, brings up the error message "unable to load object: error in file open". How can I correct this? I have the printed manual for FH but cannot find an answer to my problem. Paddy Buckley

Graham - you need to pick the Export Format you want (UTF-8) in the Export Gedcom File dialog. Simon Orde List Administrator & Family Historian designer ----- Original Message ----- From: "Graham Chamberlain" <agc@katiandgraham.com> To: <family-historian-users@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 12:13 PM Subject: Re: [FHU] UTF8 Supported in v5? > Simon > > Thanks for this explanation of these very welcome FH5 features. I have > just one question for > clarification. I export my gedcom to my UTF-8 TNG website and would like > to know if I will need do a > 'Save-as' in UTF-8 or is there a 'Preferences' setting to always save as > UTF-8 or whatever else the > user may prefer? > > Graham > http://www.katiandgraham.com/genealogy > > On 05/12/2011 11:03, Simon Orde wrote: >> Apologies in advance to non-technical readers. This is a technical >> question, so the answer will inevitably also be technical. Read on if >> still >> interested... >> >> Graham - >> >> internally FH will continue to use ANSI, but it will do a proper import >> from, and export into, UTF-8 (and also from/to Unicode, ANSEL and >> ASCII) - >> i.e. accent characters in UTF-8 or Unicode etc will be correctly >> converted >> to ANSI , or vice versa; which they weren't previously in V4. When >> generating websites, the generated webpages will be correctly encoded as >> UTF-8 (which is pretty much the standard for web-pages these days). >> Also, >> if you simply open a GEDCOM file that was saved in UTF-8, Unicode etc, FH >> will correctly convert it into ANSI. >> >> What this means is that if you use accent characters which are supported >> in >> ANSI, in an ordinary English-language installation of Windows (and that >> includes a lot of accent characters, including all those required for a >> number of European languages such as French and German) you should find >> that >> these accent characters should now be fine in all contexts in V5 - i.e. >> they >> import correct, display correctly in the program (assuming you don't >> choose >> some strange font or font encoding), export correctly, and display >> correctly >> in generated websites. >> >> Windows provides a mechanism to help people who use certain languages >> with >> accent characters which are not supported in a default English-language >> installation of Windows - e.g. I think Czech falls into this category. >> There is a "Regional and Language options" setting in the control panel >> which allows you to specify one preferred language for non-Unicode >> programs >> to use. If you use this system for your preferred language, this also >> should work in V5. >> >> For interest, our impression, based on GEDCOM files that we have >> encountered >> (which is a lot), is that far more than 90% of them are encoded in ANSI. >> >> Hope that makes sense. >> >> Simon Orde >> List Administrator& Family Historian designer >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Graham Chamberlain"<agc@katiandgraham.com> >> To: "Family-Historian Users"<Family-Historian-USERS@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 7:03 PM >> Subject: [FHU] UTF8 Supported in v5? >> >> >>> Can anyone tell me if UTF8 character set will be supported in the >>> forthcoming FH v5 or will it still >>> only be ANSI? >>> >>> Graham >>> http://www.katiandgraham.com/genealogy >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

How I feel for you. I have exactly the same problem. I eagerly await a solution. Patricia Is there a way of saving custom layout settings for the merge /compare window so it automatically appears the way I find it useful? I can't see anything in the help section or that it has been discussed on this forum before. Thanks Jo -- *Jo Fitz-Henry The Fitz(-)henry One Name Study Registered with the Guild of One Name Studies (4389)* ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1873 / Virus Database: 2102/4658 - Release Date: 12/05/11

I'm going through a huge GEDCOM (starting at 7000 persons) for a friend, doing many many merge/compares. Each time I start a merge/compare, I have to expand the window to full screen, then resize the panels widthways so that I can see all the information in both the "from" and "to" panels, and increase the width of the left hand column in each so the relationships become visible . If possible I would lose the left hand panel completelyas I don't find the information in this very useful(I expand the middle and right hand panels to take up all its space). It doesn't take that long to do, but when you have possibly hundreds of merge/compares to do, it becomes a bit of bind! Is there a way of saving custom layout settings for the merge /compare window so it automatically appears the way I find it useful? I can't see anything in the help section or that it has been discussed on this forum before. Thanks Jo -- *Jo Fitz-Henry The Fitz(-)henry One Name Study Registered with the Guild of One Name Studies (4389)*

Problem in access? No problem, the URL for mocavo brings up the page seemingly normally. Perhaps it was temporarily down for maintenance. Ian

Both their .com and .co.uk sites are off line. You could try their helpdesk at support@mocavo.com for what it's worth. Best regards Roger Mitchell rdm@mfo.me.uk http://mfo.me.uk -----Original Message----- From: family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Paddy Buckley Sent: 05 December 2011 13:30 To: family-historian-users@rootsweb.com Subject: [FHU] mocavo Apologies for going off topic, but neither of my search engines, IE & Google, will connect me to mocavo. The link I used regularly up to a few months ago http://www.mocavo.com/ no longer works for me. Do any of the genealogy experts on FHUG know what has happened to this site? Paddy Buckley ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I don't know what's happened, but I cannot reach it, or even ping it (Google Chrome, Safari)) John >> Apologies for going off topic, but neither of my search engines, IE & Google, will connect me to mocavo. The link I used regularly up to a few months ago http://www.mocavo.com/ no longer works for me. Do any of the genealogy experts on FHUG know what has happened to this site? Paddy Buckley _____ avast! Antivirus <http://www.avast.com> : Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 05/12/2011 Tested on: 05/12/2011 13:49:37 avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2011 AVAST Software.

Apologies for going off topic, but neither of my search engines, IE & Google, will connect me to mocavo. The link I used regularly up to a few months ago http://www.mocavo.com/ no longer works for me. Do any of the genealogy experts on FHUG know what has happened to this site? Paddy Buckley

Simon Thanks for this explanation of these very welcome FH5 features. I have just one question for clarification. I export my gedcom to my UTF-8 TNG website and would like to know if I will need do a 'Save-as' in UTF-8 or is there a 'Preferences' setting to always save as UTF-8 or whatever else the user may prefer? Graham http://www.katiandgraham.com/genealogy On 05/12/2011 11:03, Simon Orde wrote: > Apologies in advance to non-technical readers. This is a technical > question, so the answer will inevitably also be technical. Read on if still > interested... > > Graham - > > internally FH will continue to use ANSI, but it will do a proper import > from, and export into, UTF-8 (and also from/to Unicode, ANSEL and ASCII) - > i.e. accent characters in UTF-8 or Unicode etc will be correctly converted > to ANSI , or vice versa; which they weren't previously in V4. When > generating websites, the generated webpages will be correctly encoded as > UTF-8 (which is pretty much the standard for web-pages these days). Also, > if you simply open a GEDCOM file that was saved in UTF-8, Unicode etc, FH > will correctly convert it into ANSI. > > What this means is that if you use accent characters which are supported in > ANSI, in an ordinary English-language installation of Windows (and that > includes a lot of accent characters, including all those required for a > number of European languages such as French and German) you should find that > these accent characters should now be fine in all contexts in V5 - i.e. they > import correct, display correctly in the program (assuming you don't choose > some strange font or font encoding), export correctly, and display correctly > in generated websites. > > Windows provides a mechanism to help people who use certain languages with > accent characters which are not supported in a default English-language > installation of Windows - e.g. I think Czech falls into this category. > There is a "Regional and Language options" setting in the control panel > which allows you to specify one preferred language for non-Unicode programs > to use. If you use this system for your preferred language, this also > should work in V5. > > For interest, our impression, based on GEDCOM files that we have encountered > (which is a lot), is that far more than 90% of them are encoded in ANSI. > > Hope that makes sense. > > Simon Orde > List Administrator& Family Historian designer > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Graham Chamberlain"<agc@katiandgraham.com> > To: "Family-Historian Users"<Family-Historian-USERS@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 7:03 PM > Subject: [FHU] UTF8 Supported in v5? > > >> Can anyone tell me if UTF8 character set will be supported in the >> forthcoming FH v5 or will it still >> only be ANSI? >> >> Graham >> http://www.katiandgraham.com/genealogy >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Apologies in advance to non-technical readers. This is a technical question, so the answer will inevitably also be technical. Read on if still interested... Graham - internally FH will continue to use ANSI, but it will do a proper import from, and export into, UTF-8 (and also from/to Unicode, ANSEL and ASCII) - i.e. accent characters in UTF-8 or Unicode etc will be correctly converted to ANSI , or vice versa; which they weren't previously in V4. When generating websites, the generated webpages will be correctly encoded as UTF-8 (which is pretty much the standard for web-pages these days). Also, if you simply open a GEDCOM file that was saved in UTF-8, Unicode etc, FH will correctly convert it into ANSI. What this means is that if you use accent characters which are supported in ANSI, in an ordinary English-language installation of Windows (and that includes a lot of accent characters, including all those required for a number of European languages such as French and German) you should find that these accent characters should now be fine in all contexts in V5 - i.e. they import correct, display correctly in the program (assuming you don't choose some strange font or font encoding), export correctly, and display correctly in generated websites. Windows provides a mechanism to help people who use certain languages with accent characters which are not supported in a default English-language installation of Windows - e.g. I think Czech falls into this category. There is a "Regional and Language options" setting in the control panel which allows you to specify one preferred language for non-Unicode programs to use. If you use this system for your preferred language, this also should work in V5. For interest, our impression, based on GEDCOM files that we have encountered (which is a lot), is that far more than 90% of them are encoded in ANSI. Hope that makes sense. Simon Orde List Administrator & Family Historian designer ----- Original Message ----- From: "Graham Chamberlain" <agc@katiandgraham.com> To: "Family-Historian Users" <Family-Historian-USERS@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 7:03 PM Subject: [FHU] UTF8 Supported in v5? > Can anyone tell me if UTF8 character set will be supported in the > forthcoming FH v5 or will it still > only be ANSI? > > Graham > http://www.katiandgraham.com/genealogy > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Can anyone tell me if UTF8 character set will be supported in the forthcoming FH v5 or will it still only be ANSI? Graham http://www.katiandgraham.com/genealogy

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Many thanks to everyone who responded to my query. You have given me plenty to thing about! Roy

Alan, There are settings to sort out your diagram. In the All Relatives diagram, especially with both root spouses, FH tries to keep spouses together, but also show them in their sibling position. This is why you get two boxes, one being a kind of proxy for the other, and it may occur for more than just the root spouses. Also this often results in these spouses and their proxies being far apart and joined by lines that cross other lines. These are unavoidable side effects of the All Relatives diagram with complex families. You can hide the proxy boxes if you wish by using right mouse click on the proxy box and ticking Hidden in the context menu. You can reveal them again by removing the Hidden tick, but to see the hidden boxes use Diagram > Hide/Show Boxes. The dotted line indicates it is crossing another solid line. It can be changed using Diagram > Options > Lines > Crossing Lines > Solid. Also, sometimes the spouse boxes may be moved apart such that they are nearer their sibling position. It depends how complex your tree is. Regards, Mike Tate -----Original Message----- From: family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Cuddlybear Sent: 30 November 2011 10:18 To: family-historian-users@rootsweb.com Subject: [FHU] Linking Charts Hi All First thanks to all for help with this problem. I've been kicking it around for some time but not getting anywhere. Mike - Tried your suggestion and it worked but left a box with the ancestors name at the original point, for both spouses. These boxes appear on a printed chart. Also as the distance between boxes increased the connecting line changes to dotted. I suspect there is a setting to sort that. I thought the conversion from Genbox was reasonable but now believe there are some serious shortcomings in the gedcom file. There appear to be a lot of @XXX@ symbols scattered aroundin the records table. I think rather than re-enter or check all the data for 1100 people I'll wait until Feb. when the new version comes out, which is supposed to sort this problem out. Thanks again for all your help. Alan ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi All First thanks to all for help with this problem. I've been kicking it around for some time but not getting anywhere. Mike - Tried your suggestion and it worked but left a box with the ancestors name at the original point, for both spouses. These boxes appear on a printed chart. Also as the distance between boxes increased the connecting line changes to dotted. I suspect there is a setting to sort that. I thought the conversion from Genbox was reasonable but now believe there are some serious shortcomings in the gedcom file. There appear to be a lot of @XXX@ symbols scattered aroundin the records table. I think rather than re-enter or check all the data for 1100 people I'll wait until Feb. when the new version comes out, which is supposed to sort this problem out. Thanks again for all your help. Alan

Keep it simple. Norton Ghost, external hard drive. 45 minutes to back up the entire hard disk with firewire. Safe, and in your hands. Hard drive failure, as I've had recently, its all there for you - provided you back up regularly and frequently. Martin

Or invest in a Mac and an external hard drive. Your data will back up automatically using Time Machine utility. No need to think about it. There has to be a limit on how many back up places it is practical to maintain. For me Carbonite and Time Machine is enough and cost effective. Sent from my iPhone On 29 Nov 2011, at 10:13, "John E Cruttenden" <der.baron@virgin.net> wrote: > Online backup services look attractive as they seem to need very little > thinking effort and most people feel that they do not understand / do not > want to understand backup and so they do not want to think about it. > > A short while ago when I looked at this subject (again) it quickly became > clear that although these "services" look a no brainer all of the major > players at that time had lost customer data. There was nothing that the > customers could do as their data was not guaranteed (read the Ts & Cs). > Apart from loss there is the question of "will the data be available when > you want it" there are quite a few people involved in supplying and > maintaining the pipeline to all that cloudy stuff. > > If you actually value your data and the access to it, a different approach > is needed, for example: > > Buy a 0.5tb external USB hard drive from PCWorld (less that £50 I expect) > "synchronise" your complete machine to this drive and then you have all the > data on your PC now stored externally. Do this very regularly - daily. This > is not quite enough effort yet because if your C: drive completely dies you > cannot restore a working machine from the USB drive to a new empty C: drive. > > To go the next step you need to use something like Norton Ghost to make > "drive images" of all the drives on your PC and store them on the USB drive. > Do this regularly - weekly. You can restore a working machine in just a few > minutes from these drive images provided that they are up to date. > > Still not quite enough yet as your PC may completely die and then it is a > case of buy a new PC. You probably will not be able to restore your drive > images to the new machine because of hardware driver differences Oh dear! > Then you are into reinstalling everything but at least you have all your > personal data and family history stuff available when the new PC is up and > working. > > To overcome this problem you may want to consider "virtualizing" your entire > PC, then you can move the virtual machine anywhere you like and you > immediately have your "normal" environment available. You do have to back > this VM up as well, bother. > > If you are storing "stuff" locally on an external USB drive you are not > protected against a home fire or flood so you need to keep a copy of the > data at the house of a local friend. > > Oh dear what a lot of thinking! Sorry there is no escape from it. > > You have only got a good backup strategy if you have the courage to reformat > all the drives on your PC (pretty final) and then restore the machine from > your backup. If you have not practised machine recovery you do not know that > it will work when you have to do it for real. Hands up all those who have > done this practise step please - 5 stars to each of you > > Sorry about the long lecture but there is no easy solution. It depends on > how much you value your work, try and figure out how many hours you have > spent on just FH and cost it at the minimum wage and I bet that it far > exceeds the cost of your PC. Also talk to someone who has lost all data and > get them to tell you about the associated despair and trauma. > > John C > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Andrew > Jolly > Sent: 29 November 2011 08:20 > To: family-historian-users@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [FHU] Using iCloud for backing up Family Historian data? > > No I am not using it but 5Gb doesn't seem to be very much if yo are backing > up the whole project, plus other things as well. > > I use carbonite which is not free but is unlimited and I'm already up to 65 > Gb ! It's the same maxim - you get what you pay for! > > Regards > > Andrew > > > On 28 Nov 2011, at 23:26, Davies, Roy wrote: > >> A growing number of people seem to be using Family Historian on Apple Macs > (e.g. by installing Parallels and Windows on the Mac). I wonder if anyone is > using Apple's iCloud to back up their data? I tried to set it up, apparently > successfully, and it tells me I have 5 GB of 5 GB available but that I am > not using any storage. I thought that the backups were supposed to be made > automatically. >> >> If anyone is using iCloud storage for backing up their genealogical data > I'd be pleased if they could tell me if there is a crucial step that I have > overlooked. >> >> Regards, >> >> Roy >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word >> 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the >> message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >