Thanks Mike for your guidance, I now need someone who has merged two products to help me understand how you deal with media in the process. Is it simply a case of an option to transfer the media or does it have to be done as a separate process in another way afterwards? Thanks Stewart -----Original Message----- From: Beryl & Mike Tate Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2012 10:44 PM To: family-historian-users@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FHU] Merging Two Projects Stewart, Your understanding is reasonably correct. Strictly speaking you don't have to create a copy of both Projects, just the one you are merging into (referred to as the Current file in FH). The Project you are merging from (referred to as the New file in FH) should only ever be read from and not changed. I think the Merge only affects the GEDCOM file, so I suspect the media images will need a separate process. (Others will correct me if I am wrong). Using Tools Work with External File Links will identify those media that need to be copied. Regards, Mike Tate -----Original Message----- From: family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Stewart Harverson Sent: 06 March 2012 22:09 To: family-historian-users@rootsweb.com Subject: [FHU] Merging Two Projects I’ve two separate projects which I wish to merge as one new project. I’ve read what I can of the process but I have a fear that it could go wrong! I have back ups of both projects but still feel that I want a’ belt and braces’ method in case things don’t merge smoothly! Am I able to do the following? Can I use the ‘More Tasks’ in the Project Window to create a copy of both of the projects and then use these 2 new copies to merge together? If thing go wrong then I presume that my original 2 projects will still be unscathed. I hope that my understanding is accurate! Another thing I need to clarify is whether or not all the saved images in the respective media folders will be automatically included in the merge or is this a separate process? Thanks Stewart ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

It is a good day. Thank you to all of you who responded. It turned out to be my DEP ("Data Execution Prevention"). Once allowed the program opened. Gary ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 22:28:16 -0000 From: "Beryl & Mike Tate" <post@tatewise.co.uk> Subject: Re: [FHU] problem reinstalling. To: <family-historian-users@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <000001ccfbe8$6d1970b0$474c5210$@co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Please review the advice at http://www.fhug.org.uk/wiki/doku.php?id=how_to:reinstall_family_historian The Installation Errors near the end may help Regards, Mike Tate -----Original Message----- From: family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of gary james Sent: 06 March 2012 16:37 To: family-historian-users@rootsweb.com Subject: [FHU] problem reinstalling. Good day, I am using FH V3.1.2 upgrade My program stopped working on my laptop running MS Vista. Error message "Family Historian has stopped working. A problem caused the program to stop working correctly. Windows will close the program and notify you if a solution is available." I uninstalled the program FH V3 and reinstalled it. I did not even get to enter the registration key. I have taken the opportunity to now upgrade the lap top from Vista to Windows 7 and Office Professional 2010. Everything is working with this installation. However, I cannot reinstall FH. I am getting the same problem error. I run CCleaners and lots of registration errors come up with FH. I fix them. However, I am still unable to reinstall or restart the program. What can I do? Gary

Paddy You have to select the project to be copied before you click 'more tasks'- that way the 'copy project' will work. Stewart -----Original Message----- From: Paddy Buckley Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2012 11:01 PM To: family-historian-users@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FHU] Merging Two Projects When I click on 'More Tasks' in the Project Window, the option to 'Copy Project' is grayed out. How do I proceed? (FH v 4.1.3) Paddy Buckley ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stewart Harverson" <stewart.harverson@hotmail.co.uk> To: <family-historian-users@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2012 10:08 PM Subject: [FHU] Merging Two Projects > > I’ve two separate projects which I wish to merge as one new project. > > I’ve read what I can of the process but I have a fear that it could go > wrong! > > I have back ups of both projects but still feel that I want a’ belt and > braces’ method in case things don’t merge smoothly! > > Am I able to do the following? > > Can I use the ‘More Tasks’ in the Project Window to create a copy of both > of the projects and then use these 2 new copies to merge together? > > If thing go wrong then I presume that my original 2 projects will still > be unscathed. > > I hope that my understanding is accurate! > > Another thing I need to clarify is whether or not all the saved images in > the respective media folders will be automatically included in the merge > or is this a separate process? > > Thanks > Stewart > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

When I click on 'More Tasks' in the Project Window, the option to 'Copy Project' is grayed out. How do I proceed? (FH v 4.1.3) Paddy Buckley ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stewart Harverson" <stewart.harverson@hotmail.co.uk> To: <family-historian-users@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2012 10:08 PM Subject: [FHU] Merging Two Projects > > I’ve two separate projects which I wish to merge as one new project. > > I’ve read what I can of the process but I have a fear that it could go > wrong! > > I have back ups of both projects but still feel that I want a’ belt and > braces’ method in case things don’t merge smoothly! > > Am I able to do the following? > > Can I use the ‘More Tasks’ in the Project Window to create a copy of both > of the projects and then use these 2 new copies to merge together? > > If thing go wrong then I presume that my original 2 projects will still > be unscathed. > > I hope that my understanding is accurate! > > Another thing I need to clarify is whether or not all the saved images in > the respective media folders will be automatically included in the merge > or is this a separate process? > > Thanks > Stewart > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Stewart, Your understanding is reasonably correct. Strictly speaking you don't have to create a copy of both Projects, just the one you are merging into (referred to as the Current file in FH). The Project you are merging from (referred to as the New file in FH) should only ever be read from and not changed. I think the Merge only affects the GEDCOM file, so I suspect the media images will need a separate process. (Others will correct me if I am wrong). Using Tools Work with External File Links will identify those media that need to be copied. Regards, Mike Tate -----Original Message----- From: family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Stewart Harverson Sent: 06 March 2012 22:09 To: family-historian-users@rootsweb.com Subject: [FHU] Merging Two Projects I’ve two separate projects which I wish to merge as one new project. I’ve read what I can of the process but I have a fear that it could go wrong! I have back ups of both projects but still feel that I want a’ belt and braces’ method in case things don’t merge smoothly! Am I able to do the following? Can I use the ‘More Tasks’ in the Project Window to create a copy of both of the projects and then use these 2 new copies to merge together? If thing go wrong then I presume that my original 2 projects will still be unscathed. I hope that my understanding is accurate! Another thing I need to clarify is whether or not all the saved images in the respective media folders will be automatically included in the merge or is this a separate process? Thanks Stewart

Please review the advice at http://www.fhug.org.uk/wiki/doku.php?id=how_to:reinstall_family_historian The Installation Errors near the end may help Regards, Mike Tate -----Original Message----- From: family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of gary james Sent: 06 March 2012 16:37 To: family-historian-users@rootsweb.com Subject: [FHU] problem reinstalling. Good day, I am using FH V3.1.2 upgrade My program stopped working on my laptop running MS Vista. Error message "Family Historian has stopped working. A problem caused the program to stop working correctly. Windows will close the program and notify you if a solution is available." I uninstalled the program FH V3 and reinstalled it. I did not even get to enter the registration key. I have taken the opportunity to now upgrade the lap top from Vista to Windows 7 and Office Professional 2010. Everything is working with this installation. However, I cannot reinstall FH. I am getting the same problem error. I run CCleaners and lots of registration errors come up with FH. I fix them. However, I am still unable to reinstall or restart the program. What can I do? Gary

Thanks to everyone who has commented in relation to using Family Historian for one-place studies. I'll be experimenting on this over the coming weeks and will report back. Alex in Auckland NZ

I’ve two separate projects which I wish to merge as one new project. I’ve read what I can of the process but I have a fear that it could go wrong! I have back ups of both projects but still feel that I want a’ belt and braces’ method in case things don’t merge smoothly! Am I able to do the following? Can I use the ‘More Tasks’ in the Project Window to create a copy of both of the projects and then use these 2 new copies to merge together? If thing go wrong then I presume that my original 2 projects will still be unscathed. I hope that my understanding is accurate! Another thing I need to clarify is whether or not all the saved images in the respective media folders will be automatically included in the merge or is this a separate process? Thanks Stewart

Gary Have a look on FHUG website as I think you may need to use a download and then enter your registration key. Are you having to upgrade from an earlier version? I am sure I had to download when I upgraded to Windows 7. Hilary

Is this the "Error While Unpacking" problem, if so make sure you have SP2 installed for Vista. You can download SP2 from http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/dd262148 Another possible problem is your AntiVirus, occasionally various antivirus programs seem to take objection to FH, so if you try excluding the Family Historian exe (fh.exe) from the run time antivirus checking this sometimes fixes the problem. On 6 March 2012 16:36, gary james <gary.james@sympatico.ca> wrote: > I am using FH V3.1.2 upgrade > > My program stopped working on my laptop running MS Vista.  Error message > "Family Historian has stopped working.  A problem caused the program to stop > working correctly.  Windows will close the program and notify you if a > solution is available." -- Jane. Jane Taubman | www.rjt.org.uk | www.taubman.org.uk |www.fhug.org.uk

Good day, I am using FH V3.1.2 upgrade My program stopped working on my laptop running MS Vista. Error message "Family Historian has stopped working. A problem caused the program to stop working correctly. Windows will close the program and notify you if a solution is available." I uninstalled the program FH V3 and reinstalled it. I did not even get to enter the registration key. I have taken the opportunity to now upgrade the lap top from Vista to Windows 7 and Office Professional 2010. Everything is working with this installation. However, I cannot reinstall FH. I am getting the same problem error. I run CCleaners and lots of registration errors come up with FH. I fix them. However, I am still unable to reinstall or restart the program. What can I do? Gary

Aha, Many thanks, Mike So simple, and it worked. I'll remember that for the next time I create a new fact. Anne Anne Cole, President, Lincolnshire Family History Society Duncalf(e)/Duncuff/Duncuft One-name Study GOONS member 513 http://www.one-name.org/profiles/duncalf.html Lincolnshire Post 1837 Marriage Index http://mi.lincolnshiremarriages.org.uk/ Lincolnshire Family History Society http://www.lincolnshirefhs.org.uk > -----Original Message----- > From: family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:family- > historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Beryl & Mike Tate > Sent: 05 March 2012 21:26 > To: family-historian-users@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [FHU] Help with Narrative Record > > Anne, > > It is because the problem Individuals have no Birth Event and the > Beneficiary Fact sentence Template does not use {individual}. > > Either add a Birth Fact even with no date, or change Beneficiary sentence > Template to {individual}.was beneficiary of <'{value}'> > {date} {place} > > Regards, Mike Tate > > -----Original Message----- > From: family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:family- > historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Anne Cole > Sent: 05 March 2012 21:04 > To: family-historian-users@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [FHU] Help with Narrative Record > > Hello Jane, > > Is this what you mean? > > {label} of <'{value}'> {date} {place} > > Beneficiary of 'Urian Duncalf' on 23 March 1596/97 in Ottringham in > Holderness, Yorkshire > > But the ones that are showing correctly in the report are exactly the same > as these! The report looks like this: > > 17. Beneficiary of 'William Stafford' on 16 October 1594 in Derbyshire.9 > Alice DUNCALF [240018], daughter of William DUNCALF [240016] and ? > STAFFORD > [240017], died after 1594. > > 18. Thomas DUNCALF [240020], son of William DUNCALF [240016] and ? > STAFFORD > [240017], was born after 1574. Beneficiary of 'William Stafford' on 16 > October 1594 in Derbyshire.9 Thomas made a will on 28 October 1600 in > Beverley, Yorkshire. 11 He died in October 1600 in Beverley, Yorkshire. He > was buried on 31 October 1600 in Beverley Minster, Yorkshire. 12 He died > on > 6 November 1600 in Beverley. 5 He is mentioned in a document on 19 June > 1609 > in Mellor, Derbyshire.7 > > 19. William DUNCALF [240021], son of William DUNCALF [240016] and ? > STAFFORD > [240017], was born after 1574. Beneficiary of 'William Stafford' on 16 > October 1594 in Derbyshire.9 William was involved in a land exchange on 19 > June 1609.7 He died after 1609. > > 20. Beneficiary of 'William Stafford' on 16 October 1594 in Derbyshire.9 > Laurence DUNCALF [240019], son of William DUNCALF [240016] and ? STAFFORD > [240017], was a Labourer. He married Elizabeth BILTON [240104] on 27 > May 1616 in Patrington, Yorkshire. 13 He died in 1622 in Patrington. He > was > buried on 8 November 1622 in Patrington. > > And before anyone tells me that I have two different death dates for > Thomas > (No. 18), I know. His IPM gives a later date of death than his burial! > > Anne > > Anne Cole, President, Lincolnshire Family History Society > > Duncalf(e)/Duncuff/Duncuft One-name Study GOONS member 513 > > http://www.one-name.org/profiles/duncalf.html > > Lincolnshire Post 1837 Marriage Index > > http://mi.lincolnshiremarriages.org.uk/ > > Lincolnshire Family History Society > > http://www.lincolnshirefhs.org.uk > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:family- > > historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jane Taubman > > Sent: 05 March 2012 20:43 > > To: family-historian-users@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [FHU] Help with Narrative Record > > > > Add if you look on the property box, when you have new fact selected, > > what shows in the Fact Sentence field? > > > > It's possible the sentence template for the custom fact is incorrect > > so the sentence is going in the wrong order. That's what I would > > check first. > > > > it might help us to spot the problem if you post the Sentence template > > you have and the paragraph of text which is showing incorrectly. > > > > -- > > Jane. > > > > Jane Taubman | www.rjt.org.uk | www.taubman.org.uk |www.fhug.org.uk > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN- > > USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN- > USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN- > USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Anne, It is because the problem Individuals have no Birth Event and the Beneficiary Fact sentence Template does not use {individual}. Either add a Birth Fact even with no date, or change Beneficiary sentence Template to {individual}.was beneficiary of <'{value}'> {date} {place} Regards, Mike Tate -----Original Message----- From: family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Anne Cole Sent: 05 March 2012 21:04 To: family-historian-users@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FHU] Help with Narrative Record Hello Jane, Is this what you mean? {label} of <'{value}'> {date} {place} Beneficiary of 'Urian Duncalf' on 23 March 1596/97 in Ottringham in Holderness, Yorkshire But the ones that are showing correctly in the report are exactly the same as these! The report looks like this: 17. Beneficiary of 'William Stafford' on 16 October 1594 in Derbyshire.9 Alice DUNCALF [240018], daughter of William DUNCALF [240016] and ? STAFFORD [240017], died after 1594. 18. Thomas DUNCALF [240020], son of William DUNCALF [240016] and ? STAFFORD [240017], was born after 1574. Beneficiary of 'William Stafford' on 16 October 1594 in Derbyshire.9 Thomas made a will on 28 October 1600 in Beverley, Yorkshire. 11 He died in October 1600 in Beverley, Yorkshire. He was buried on 31 October 1600 in Beverley Minster, Yorkshire. 12 He died on 6 November 1600 in Beverley. 5 He is mentioned in a document on 19 June 1609 in Mellor, Derbyshire.7 19. William DUNCALF [240021], son of William DUNCALF [240016] and ? STAFFORD [240017], was born after 1574. Beneficiary of 'William Stafford' on 16 October 1594 in Derbyshire.9 William was involved in a land exchange on 19 June 1609.7 He died after 1609. 20. Beneficiary of 'William Stafford' on 16 October 1594 in Derbyshire.9 Laurence DUNCALF [240019], son of William DUNCALF [240016] and ? STAFFORD [240017], was a Labourer. He married Elizabeth BILTON [240104] on 27 May 1616 in Patrington, Yorkshire. 13 He died in 1622 in Patrington. He was buried on 8 November 1622 in Patrington. And before anyone tells me that I have two different death dates for Thomas (No. 18), I know. His IPM gives a later date of death than his burial! Anne Anne Cole, President, Lincolnshire Family History Society Duncalf(e)/Duncuff/Duncuft One-name Study GOONS member 513 http://www.one-name.org/profiles/duncalf.html Lincolnshire Post 1837 Marriage Index http://mi.lincolnshiremarriages.org.uk/ Lincolnshire Family History Society http://www.lincolnshirefhs.org.uk > -----Original Message----- > From: family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:family- > historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jane Taubman > Sent: 05 March 2012 20:43 > To: family-historian-users@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [FHU] Help with Narrative Record > > Add if you look on the property box, when you have new fact selected, > what shows in the Fact Sentence field? > > It's possible the sentence template for the custom fact is incorrect > so the sentence is going in the wrong order. That's what I would > check first. > > it might help us to spot the problem if you post the Sentence template > you have and the paragraph of text which is showing incorrectly. > > -- > Jane. > > Jane Taubman | www.rjt.org.uk | www.taubman.org.uk |www.fhug.org.uk > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN- > USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Jane, Is this what you mean? {label} of <'{value}'> {date} {place} Beneficiary of 'Urian Duncalf' on 23 March 1596/97 in Ottringham in Holderness, Yorkshire But the ones that are showing correctly in the report are exactly the same as these! The report looks like this: 17. Beneficiary of 'William Stafford' on 16 October 1594 in Derbyshire.9 Alice DUNCALF [240018], daughter of William DUNCALF [240016] and ? STAFFORD [240017], died after 1594. 18. Thomas DUNCALF [240020], son of William DUNCALF [240016] and ? STAFFORD [240017], was born after 1574. Beneficiary of 'William Stafford' on 16 October 1594 in Derbyshire.9 Thomas made a will on 28 October 1600 in Beverley, Yorkshire. 11 He died in October 1600 in Beverley, Yorkshire. He was buried on 31 October 1600 in Beverley Minster, Yorkshire. 12 He died on 6 November 1600 in Beverley. 5 He is mentioned in a document on 19 June 1609 in Mellor, Derbyshire.7 19. William DUNCALF [240021], son of William DUNCALF [240016] and ? STAFFORD [240017], was born after 1574. Beneficiary of 'William Stafford' on 16 October 1594 in Derbyshire.9 William was involved in a land exchange on 19 June 1609.7 He died after 1609. 20. Beneficiary of 'William Stafford' on 16 October 1594 in Derbyshire.9 Laurence DUNCALF [240019], son of William DUNCALF [240016] and ? STAFFORD [240017], was a Labourer. He married Elizabeth BILTON [240104] on 27 May 1616 in Patrington, Yorkshire. 13 He died in 1622 in Patrington. He was buried on 8 November 1622 in Patrington. And before anyone tells me that I have two different death dates for Thomas (No. 18), I know. His IPM gives a later date of death than his burial! Anne Anne Cole, President, Lincolnshire Family History Society Duncalf(e)/Duncuff/Duncuft One-name Study GOONS member 513 http://www.one-name.org/profiles/duncalf.html Lincolnshire Post 1837 Marriage Index http://mi.lincolnshiremarriages.org.uk/ Lincolnshire Family History Society http://www.lincolnshirefhs.org.uk > -----Original Message----- > From: family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:family- > historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jane Taubman > Sent: 05 March 2012 20:43 > To: family-historian-users@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [FHU] Help with Narrative Record > > Add if you look on the property box, when you have new fact selected, > what shows in the Fact Sentence field? > > It's possible the sentence template for the custom fact is incorrect > so the sentence is going in the wrong order. That's what I would > check first. > > it might help us to spot the problem if you post the Sentence template > you have and the paragraph of text which is showing incorrectly. > > -- > Jane. > > Jane Taubman | www.rjt.org.uk | www.taubman.org.uk |www.fhug.org.uk > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN- > USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Mike, I am producing a Narrative report, descendants by generation. I had changed the options, but went back to installation settings to see if that would cure the problem: it hasn't. I have only added the custom ID, record notes and marriage notes. The report begins with the great grandfather of the 4 children I mentioned. I have it set to 10 generations at the moment. Version 4.1.3 I have added the will, and am now using the facts to add the beneficiaries, linking them all to said will. I have just added someone as a beneficiary to a different will and exactly the same thing has happened. The name in bold now comes after the "Beneficiary of...." statement. The ones I did earlier tonight are correct, with the name in bold coming first. I have definitely changed something without knowing it, but I don't know what. Neither can I work out whether I have changed something in the property box or the report window. Thanks, Anne Anne Cole, President, Lincolnshire Family History Society Duncalf(e)/Duncuff/Duncuft One-name Study GOONS member 513 http://www.one-name.org/profiles/duncalf.html Lincolnshire Post 1837 Marriage Index http://mi.lincolnshiremarriages.org.uk/ Lincolnshire Family History Society http://www.lincolnshirefhs.org.uk > -----Original Message----- > From: family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:family- > historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Beryl & Mike Tate > Sent: 05 March 2012 20:37 > To: family-historian-users@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [FHU] Help with Narrative Record > > I am not quite sure which particular FH features you are referring to. > > By 'Narrative Record/Report' do you mean 'Individual Narrative Report' (or > 'Ancestors/Descendants by Generation')? > Does your Report have Installation Settings, or have you changed any > Options? > Are you producing the Report for one Individual at a time or are you > selecting all 4? > Which version of FH? > I guess 'Adding a "beneficiary" source and citation to a family' means you > are adding a Custom Fact 'Beneficiary' to each Individual > in turn and each one has a Citation for the same Source Record.? > > I am afraid with those assumptions I cannot reproduce your symptoms. > > -----Original Message----- > From: family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:family- > historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Anne Cole > Sent: 05 March 2012 19:43 > To: family-historian-users@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [FHU] Help with Narrative Record > > Oh dear. I now have one of the blokes with "beneficiary of" before his > name. > > > I really must have pressed a key that has changed something. Changing the > order of the facts doesn't help. It is the name that is in the wrong > place. > > Anne > > > > > Hello > > > > Adding a "beneficiary" source and citation to a family, whilst compiling > a > > report which I have open and rebuild after every change. I have 3 chaps > > and > > 1 girl. The chaps are OK, but when I put the same into Alice's facts, > the > > beneficiary bit always comes before her name in the report. I've taken > it > > out of the facts and put it back in again 3 times now, but I cannot get > > her > > name to appear first in the report. I've also closed the report down > twice > > and opened it again, but this makes no difference. I can't see any > > difference between what I have done with the boys to what I have done > with > > her. > > > > Is it possible that I have accidentally hit a key that has given Alice's > > information a new instruction? > > > > Anne > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN- > USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN- > USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Add if you look on the property box, when you have new fact selected, what shows in the Fact Sentence field? It's possible the sentence template for the custom fact is incorrect so the sentence is going in the wrong order. That's what I would check first. it might help us to spot the problem if you post the Sentence template you have and the paragraph of text which is showing incorrectly. -- Jane. Jane Taubman | www.rjt.org.uk | www.taubman.org.uk |www.fhug.org.uk

I am not quite sure which particular FH features you are referring to. By 'Narrative Record/Report' do you mean 'Individual Narrative Report' (or 'Ancestors/Descendants by Generation')? Does your Report have Installation Settings, or have you changed any Options? Are you producing the Report for one Individual at a time or are you selecting all 4? Which version of FH? I guess 'Adding a "beneficiary" source and citation to a family' means you are adding a Custom Fact 'Beneficiary' to each Individual in turn and each one has a Citation for the same Source Record.? I am afraid with those assumptions I cannot reproduce your symptoms. -----Original Message----- From: family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Anne Cole Sent: 05 March 2012 19:43 To: family-historian-users@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FHU] Help with Narrative Record Oh dear. I now have one of the blokes with "beneficiary of" before his name. I really must have pressed a key that has changed something. Changing the order of the facts doesn't help. It is the name that is in the wrong place. Anne > > Hello > > Adding a "beneficiary" source and citation to a family, whilst compiling a > report which I have open and rebuild after every change. I have 3 chaps > and > 1 girl. The chaps are OK, but when I put the same into Alice's facts, the > beneficiary bit always comes before her name in the report. I've taken it > out of the facts and put it back in again 3 times now, but I cannot get > her > name to appear first in the report. I've also closed the report down twice > and opened it again, but this makes no difference. I can't see any > difference between what I have done with the boys to what I have done with > her. > > Is it possible that I have accidentally hit a key that has given Alice's > information a new instruction? > > Anne > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Oh dear. I now have one of the blokes with "beneficiary of" before his name. I really must have pressed a key that has changed something. Changing the order of the facts doesn't help. It is the name that is in the wrong place. Anne > > Hello > > Adding a "beneficiary" source and citation to a family, whilst compiling a > report which I have open and rebuild after every change. I have 3 chaps > and > 1 girl. The chaps are OK, but when I put the same into Alice's facts, the > beneficiary bit always comes before her name in the report. I've taken it > out of the facts and put it back in again 3 times now, but I cannot get > her > name to appear first in the report. I've also closed the report down twice > and opened it again, but this makes no difference. I can't see any > difference between what I have done with the boys to what I have done with > her. > > Is it possible that I have accidentally hit a key that has given Alice's > information a new instruction? > > Anne >

Hello Adding a "beneficiary" source and citation to a family, whilst compiling a report which I have open and rebuild after every change. I have 3 chaps and 1 girl. The chaps are OK, but when I put the same into Alice's facts, the beneficiary bit always comes before her name in the report. I've taken it out of the facts and put it back in again 3 times now, but I cannot get her name to appear first in the report. I've also closed the report down twice and opened it again, but this makes no difference. I can't see any difference between what I have done with the boys to what I have done with her. Is it possible that I have accidentally hit a key that has given Alice's information a new instruction? Anne Anne Cole, President, Lincolnshire Family History Society Duncalf(e)/Duncuff/Duncuft One-name Study GOONS member 513 http://www.one-name.org/profiles/duncalf.html Lincolnshire Post 1837 Marriage Index http://mi.lincolnshiremarriages.org.uk/ Lincolnshire Family History Society http://www.lincolnshirefhs.org.uk

Hello Mike Thanks for your continuing encouragement. I need to try loading a "complete" source and see how I can extract the people and facts into their respective families and other relationships via FH. Regards Andrew Andrew J Pye Lovers of Blue & White Steeple Morden ROYSTON Hertfordshire SG8 0RN England Website www.blueandwhite.com Email andrew@blueandwhite.com Telephone >From UK 01763 853 800 >From USA/Canada 011 44 1763 853 800 >From Elsewhere +44 1763 853 800 Facsimile >From UK 01763 853 700 >From USA/Canada 011 44 1763 853 700 >From Elsewhere +44 1763 853 700 -----Original Message----- From: family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Beryl & Mike Tate Sent: 02 March 2012 20:49 To: family-historian-users@rootsweb.com Subject: [KEYWDCHK] - Re: [FHU] Using Family Historian for one place studies - Found word(s) list error in the Text body Hello Andrew, <<snippet>> Can I really digitise all this information in FH, not per person, but in its entirety? <<snippet>> Yes, I would be extremely surprised if you cannot digitise all the information. Transcripts are only text, and computers as I am sure you know, can hold a lot of text in relatively little space compared to images, audio, and video. There are many FH users with many thousands of Individual Records and Source Records and Multimedia Records. My own small FH data has over 500 Individuals, 650 Sources, and 1,000 Multimedia. <<snippet>> ...nothing in my business life offers the computing challenges of FH. I look at the structure of some of those queries and think what is that all about? <<snippet>> I accept that a weakness of FH is its user interface, and Query language, but it is improving. However, it must be recognised that the genealogy software market is tiny compared to most of the other software you mention. So Calico Pie (Simon Orde) can only devote the effort to FH development that the market can stand. Also, for various reasons, FH is tied closely to the GEDCOM structure, which influences much of the structure of FH. I have found that understanding GEDCOM helps with understanding FH. <<snippet>> ...there are times when I read responses and think a degree in computer science would be a great help unravelling that one! I sense I am not alone? <<snippet>> FH is its own worst enemy here. By offering such a highly customisable product it inevitably involves much technical detail. If you are prepared to tolerate what FH offers out of the box, which is a lot, then much of that technical detail is irrelevant. It's a bit like Windows and Microsoft Office that both have unplumbed depths, that most of us steer clear of, until we need to break through a particular brick-wall. Regards, Mike Tate