What year do you have for the change over in preferences, I entered the data as you have posted it and it works fine for me in V4.1 On 23 March 2012 01:57, Paul White <pauldesmondwhite@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > I had a birth in December 1553 and death in February 1553/54. > > In my diagram text scheme a value %INDI.DEAT.DATE:AGE_AT% shows ONE year, not zero. -- Jane. Jane Taubman | www.rjt.org.uk | www.taubman.org.uk |www.fhug.org.uk

I had a birth in December 1553 and death in February 1553/54. In my diagram text scheme a value %INDI.DEAT.DATE:AGE_AT% shows ONE year, not zero. Am i missing something, please? Paul

<<snipped>> Overall it *seems* that FH data structures are far richer than in FTM, but an obvious question is whether the "FH way" is generally "acceptable" (there's probably nothing in the GEDCOM standard to arbitrate here). <<snipped>> 1. Simon is quite proud of his GEDCOM compatibility.... The "FH way" is, I think we agree, at least 99.999% compatible with the GEDCOM 5.5 standard. 2. Re: Census - I'd have to take a look at the precise forms but an event can have its note either "in line" or as a standalone note that is linked. So it may be legitimate GEDCOM. Just rather stupid - if it can keep other events' notes inline, why not this? 3. The sort of issues you mention possibly arise because FTM expects those items to be somewhere else - contrary to the GEDCOM standard. Or it can't be bothered to import them - which is kind of outside the standard. 4. "We ought to be worried if uploading data to Ancestry is incomplete". Here's the simple fact - uploading to just about any other app WILL be incomplete. Why? Well, as an ex-programmer I can say this - the majority of apps using GEDCOM are, with honourable exceptions such as FH, programmed incompetently. It's clear that their programmers have never read the GEDCOM standard, and can't be bothered to read it. No surprise imports and exports don't work well. 6. Is the FH way more acceptable? Well, it's more conformant to the standard. Much more. Whether or not you think that is acceptable is up to you - many people (not me) deliberately only use a fraction of the FH items because they want to load into another program that, basically, fouls up the import process. There is no point in my pedantically following the standard and exploiting everything I can in FH if I'm then going to complain when I can't load stuff into GenesReunited, etc. Standards are double edged swords. If you conform to them, you get the maximum benefit - but you may need to deal with those bits of software that don't conform, and so you may need to use a lowest common denominator. Sorry if this post displays a lot of cynicism about GEDCOM programmers but as an ex-programmer who actually read manuals, I get annoyed with those who don't. Basically - you need to think what you need, accept it's a jungle out there and that it's actually pointless to worry too much about acceptability and conformance to standard. Just ask whether it works... And yes - somehow you have to check! Adrian Bruce

I wonder if anyone has done a systematic study of how FH GEDCOMs compare with others - especially Family Tree Maker (FTM) and Darrin Lythgoe's The Next Generation (TNG)? This first surfaced as a possible problem some years ago when i tried to upload my FH data to Ancestry. It failed, quietly and completely. Eventually I discovered that importing first into FTM (and ignoring all the error messages as i was short of time as always) and re-exporting GED made for a clean and faultless Ancestry upload. What happens in the process, though, is that certain FH data gets lost or moved. In particular, and at least: * Citation "where in source" vanishes * Census addresses vanish * Census notes become stand-alone notes with a link to the census record. I did a quick check of FH & FTM native GED formats and discovered that FTM simply doesn't support many of the tags used in FH, besides structuring other data differently (e.g. with census notes). Overall it *seems* that FH data structures are far richer than in FTM, but an obvious question is whether the "FH way" is generally "acceptable" (there's probably nothing in the GEDCOM standard to arbitrate here). We ought to be worried if uploading data to Ancestry is incomplete, though i'm perfectly relaxed about losing user-defined stuff like flags and custom events/fields. Paul

Gary, I should have added that you also need to move your 'family historian 2011-08-07' Project folder, from the 'gary as User' account, to the 'Guest' account My Documents\Family Historian Projects folder. -----Original Message----- From: family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of gary james Sent: 17 March 2012 23:36 To: family-historian-users@rootsweb.com Subject: [FHU] FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS Digest, Vol 7, Issue 92 I have a new problem History. I upgraded from FH v3 to 4.1 I upgraded from Vista to Windows 7. I installed FH under the Administrator settings. I want to use the program in the guest settings. I had a DEP issue last week which I received help and continued on. Today's problem, I can save any updates in the Administrator settings. I can open and use it in guest, but I cannot save it. In other programs a box will come up asking for the administer password to authorize access or changes. I do not get this in FH. This is the error I get. Unable to save change Fail to generate temporary file in folder C:\Users\gary as User\Documents\Family Historian Projects\family historian 2011-08-07\family historian 2011-08-07.fh_data. Access is Denied. OK Please help. Gary ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks Dave - got it. The precision in terminology ought to be natural to me but I'm afraid I can be a bit clumsy. I'm not into Windows 7 yet so I haven't that to worry about at present. Regards Peter

Hello and thank you Mike, I tried your suggestions which look good. However, I could not get the program to save. Therefore, I decided to uninstall the program from the administrator side and reinstall it in the guest side. It works fine now. Thanks again for the info. Gary 4. FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS Digest, Vol 7, Issue 92 (gary james) Message: 4 Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 19:35:40 -0400 From: gary james <gary.james@sympatico.ca> Subject: [FHU] FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS Digest, Vol 7, Issue 92 To: <family-historian-users@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP38215F371AE31057B814A8E25C0@phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I have a new problem History. I upgraded from FH v3 to 4.1 I upgraded from Vista to Windows 7. I installed FH under the Administrator settings. I want to use the program in the guest settings. I had a DEP issue last week which I received help and continued on. Today's problem, I can save any updates in the Administrator settings. I can open and use it in guest, but I cannot save it. In other programs a box will come up asking for the administer password to authorize access or changes. I do not get this in FH. This is the error I get. Unable to save change Fail to generate temporary file in folder C:\Users\gary as User\Documents\Family Historian Projects\family historian 2011-08-07\family historian 2011-08-07.fh_data. Access is Denied. OK Please help. Gary ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2012 00:49:12 -0000 From: "Beryl & Mike Tate" <post@tatewise.co.uk> Subject: Re: [FHU] FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS Digest, Vol 7, Issue 92 To: <family-historian-users@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <000001cd04a0$effdd280$cff97780$@co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Gary, In the Guest account you need to use File > Project Window > Location and 'Reset Location to Installation Default' to reference the Guest - My Documents\Family Historian Projects. Also ensure all Tools > Preferences > Startup tab file and Backup tab folder refer to the Guest - My Documents... folder. As with most programs running in the Guest account you can only access Guest account files and folders. Note that many FH settings affect the whole PC and must be changed in each account when you switch user accounts. The FH Knowledge Base has further details about such settings at: http://www.fhug.org.uk/wiki/doku.php?id=how_to:understanding_scope_of_featur es Regards, Mike Tate

Gary, In the Guest account you need to use File > Project Window > Location and 'Reset Location to Installation Default' to reference the Guest - My Documents\Family Historian Projects. Also ensure all Tools > Preferences > Startup tab file and Backup tab folder refer to the Guest - My Documents... folder. As with most programs running in the Guest account you can only access Guest account files and folders. Note that many FH settings affect the whole PC and must be changed in each account when you switch user accounts. The FH Knowledge Base has further details about such settings at: http://www.fhug.org.uk/wiki/doku.php?id=how_to:understanding_scope_of_features Regards, Mike Tate -----Original Message----- From: family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of gary james Sent: 17 March 2012 23:36 To: family-historian-users@rootsweb.com Subject: [FHU] FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS Digest, Vol 7, Issue 92 I have a new problem History. I upgraded from FH v3 to 4.1 I upgraded from Vista to Windows 7. I installed FH under the Administrator settings. I want to use the program in the guest settings. I had a DEP issue last week which I received help and continued on. Today's problem, I can save any updates in the Administrator settings. I can open and use it in guest, but I cannot save it. In other programs a box will come up asking for the administer password to authorize access or changes. I do not get this in FH. This is the error I get. Unable to save change Fail to generate temporary file in folder C:\Users\gary as User\Documents\Family Historian Projects\family historian 2011-08-07\family historian 2011-08-07.fh_data. Access is Denied. OK Please help. Gary ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have a new problem History. I upgraded from FH v3 to 4.1 I upgraded from Vista to Windows 7. I installed FH under the Administrator settings. I want to use the program in the guest settings. I had a DEP issue last week which I received help and continued on. Today's problem, I can save any updates in the Administrator settings. I can open and use it in guest, but I cannot save it. In other programs a box will come up asking for the administer password to authorize access or changes. I do not get this in FH. This is the error I get. Unable to save change Fail to generate temporary file in folder C:\Users\gary as User\Documents\Family Historian Projects\family historian 2011-08-07\family historian 2011-08-07.fh_data. Access is Denied. OK Please help. Gary

Thank you Hilary. Your advice matched others and I'm glad to say the family has been re-united. I hadn't discovered the family merging facility and didn't have two ggrandfathers to merge - always seems to be something new and, despite the reading, it is repetition which helps most my old grey cells. Thank you for the support. Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: <family-historian-users-request@rootsweb.com> To: <family-historian-users@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2012 7:01 AM Subject: FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS Digest, Vol 7, Issue 92 > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: ERROR EDIING (Hilary Gadsby) > 2. ERROR EDITING (Peter G Birkhead) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 16:40:53 +0000 > From: Hilary Gadsby <hilgad@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [FHU] ERROR EDIING > To: family-historian-users@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <CACS5+VNQ2Tx7F4Lt1j1DhRi4V9=MXYs5JhA4D-yrZTbd8q-y0g@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > >> My Great Grandfather married and they were blessed with five children. >> ?Unfortunately he was not the best at meeting the Census requirements in >> 1871 and 1881 and died shortly thereafter and the family split. ?I found >> the fifth member and entered her in her place only to find AS and FH has >> married ggfather twice to the same ggmother - the first time with four >> children and the second with one. > > Peter it appears that what you needed to do was merge the 2 families > to give one set of parents and 5 children. This is simply to do in FH > and does not require you to use AS. Without knowing how you tried to > fix the problem of 2 families it is difficult to suggest how you can > correct your current file. > Do you have a backup created prior to trying to correct the problem > that you could restore from. If so you just need to restore from the > backup and merge the 2 families. Go to Edit them Merge/Compare > Records and select both family records. > Hope this helps. > Hilary > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 15:40:08 -0000 > From: "Peter G Birkhead" <wathon@tiscali.co.uk> > Subject: [FHU] ERROR EDITING > To: <family-historian-users@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <6C33CCD54F8443F993B18E54BCAFBBDD@architecef6c8f> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Thank Jane - exactly what was needed for my HF records -I had looked for > the merging exercise but had not had recourse to the families record. > Learning daily. > Will try to steal the nerve to tackle AS next as Michel suggests. > In my previous message I mentioned saving to a "Temporary Folder" which > should have read "Temporary Directory". I hadn't called up this and > didn't know there was such a "Directory" - is there an explanation to read > up for why FH chose to locate the record there? > Thank you for your prompt help. > Peter > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS list administrator, send an email to > FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS mailing list, send an > email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS Digest, Vol 7, Issue 92 > *****************************************************

He wants to know when you are back o choose the tiles and I can't remember From: "family-historian-users-request@rootsweb.com" <family-historian-users-request@rootsweb.com> To: family-historian-users@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, 17 March 2012, 7:01 Subject: FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS Digest, Vol 7, Issue 92 Today's Topics:   1. Re: ERROR EDIING (Hilary Gadsby)   2. ERROR EDITING (Peter G Birkhead) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 16:40:53 +0000 From: Hilary Gadsby <hilgad@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [FHU] ERROR EDIING To: family-historian-users@rootsweb.com Message-ID:     <CACS5+VNQ2Tx7F4Lt1j1DhRi4V9=MXYs5JhA4D-yrZTbd8q-y0g@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > My Great Grandfather married and they were blessed with five children. ?Unfortunately he was not the best at meeting the Census requirements in 1871 and 1881 and died shortly thereafter and the family split. ?I found the fifth member and entered her in her place only to find AS and FH has married ggfather twice to the same ggmother - the first time with four children and the second with one. Peter it appears that what you needed to do was merge the 2 families to give one set of parents and 5 children. This is simply to do in FH and does not require you to use AS. Without knowing how you tried to fix the problem of 2 families it is difficult to suggest how you can correct your current file. Do you have a backup created prior to trying to correct the problem that you could restore from. If so you just need to restore from the backup and merge the 2 families. Go to  Edit them Merge/Compare Records and select both family records. Hope this helps. Hilary ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 15:40:08 -0000 From: "Peter G Birkhead" <wathon@tiscali.co.uk> Subject: [FHU] ERROR EDITING To: <family-historian-users@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <6C33CCD54F8443F993B18E54BCAFBBDD@architecef6c8f> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="iso-8859-1" Thank Jane - exactly what was needed for my HF records -I had looked for the merging exercise but had not had recourse to the families record.  Learning daily. Will try to steal the nerve to tackle AS next as Michel suggests. In my previous message I mentioned saving to a "Temporary Folder" which should have read "Temporary Directory".  I hadn't called up this and didn't know there was such a "Directory" - is there an explanation to read up for why FH chose to locate the record there? Thank you for your prompt help. Peter ------------------------------ To contact the FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS list administrator, send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS mailing list, send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS Digest, Vol 7, Issue 92 *****************************************************

Peter Folder and Directory are mostly different names for the same thing. The exceptions are the "Folders" which are called "My Documents" and the like. They are virtual folders which provide easy links to files in "real" directories. Windows 7 has "libraries" which are also virtual. The danger they create is that if you delete something from a virtual folder it sometimes does not delete the file from the real folder but knowing when it has deleted the file is not always obvious. DaveT Message: 2 Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 15:40:08 -0000 From: "Peter G Birkhead" <wathon@tiscali.co.uk> Subject: [FHU] ERROR EDITING To: <family-historian-users@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <6C33CCD54F8443F993B18E54BCAFBBDD@architecef6c8f> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Thank Jane - exactly what was needed for my HF records -I had looked for the merging exercise but had not had recourse to the families record. Learning daily. Will try to steal the nerve to tackle AS next as Michel suggests. In my previous message I mentioned saving to a "Temporary Folder" which should have read "Temporary Directory". I hadn't called up this and didn't know there was such a "Directory" - is there an explanation to read up for why FH chose to locate the record there? Thank you for your prompt help. Peter ------------------------------ To contact the FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS list administrator, send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS mailing list, send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS Digest, Vol 7, Issue 92 *****************************************************

Thank Jane - exactly what was needed for my HF records -I had looked for the merging exercise but had not had recourse to the families record. Learning daily. Will try to steal the nerve to tackle AS next as Michel suggests. In my previous message I mentioned saving to a "Temporary Folder" which should have read "Temporary Directory". I hadn't called up this and didn't know there was such a "Directory" - is there an explanation to read up for why FH chose to locate the record there? Thank you for your prompt help. Peter

AS is very good at keeping backups that allow changes it makes to be rolled back. Look in the ...\Ancestral Sources\Backups folder that is defined in its Tools > Options > General settings > Backup Folder. Also take care when entering AS data that you use existing Parents/Spouses/Siblings/Children listed in the right hand pane rather than adding new Individuals. You can always E-mail Nick Walker for assistance or post in the Ancestral Sources Forum on the FHUG website. Regards, Mike Tate -----Original Message----- From: family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Peter G Birkhead Sent: 15 March 2012 16:19 To: family-historian-users@rootsweb.com Subject: [FHU] ERROR EDIING I was hoping to live long enough to bring my family history into a believable state and FH has helped a fairly smooth collection of information - but I seem to have been given a set of square wheels when incorporating Ancestral Sources. My Great Grandfather married and they were blessed with five children. Unfortunately he was not the best at meeting the Census requirements in 1871 and 1881 and died shortly thereafter and the family split. I found the fifth member and entered her in her place only to find AS and FH has married ggfather twice to the same ggmother - the first time with four children and the second with one. Following the AS instructions for removal of the error does not function and whilst I reverted to a back-up on FH and corrected there, having saved and backed up again, the error has not gone away. The first back-up after I found the error was sent to a "Temporary Folder" and it doesn't seem all that friendly with the earlier back-up folders and is overwritten on the next saving. Please can someone help - I have been unable to find a history of others in this pickle. Peter ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Peter in Family Historian go to the View>Record Lists>Family Records Click ok if it pops up about it not normally being shown. Go down to your GGrandfather, and there should be two family records, select both of them using the shift key and then select edit>Merge records to match the two records and merge the two families into one. On 15 March 2012 16:18, Peter G Birkhead <wathon@tiscali.co.uk> wrote: > I was hoping to live long enough to bring my family history into a believable state and FH has helped a fairly smooth collection of information - but I seem to have been given a set of square wheels when incorporating Ancestral Sources. -- Jane. Jane Taubman | www.rjt.org.uk | www.taubman.org.uk |www.fhug.org.uk

> My Great Grandfather married and they were blessed with five children.  Unfortunately he was not the best at meeting the Census requirements in 1871 and 1881 and died shortly thereafter and the family split.  I found the fifth member and entered her in her place only to find AS and FH has married ggfather twice to the same ggmother - the first time with four children and the second with one. Peter it appears that what you needed to do was merge the 2 families to give one set of parents and 5 children. This is simply to do in FH and does not require you to use AS. Without knowing how you tried to fix the problem of 2 families it is difficult to suggest how you can correct your current file. Do you have a backup created prior to trying to correct the problem that you could restore from. If so you just need to restore from the backup and merge the 2 families. Go to Edit them Merge/Compare Records and select both family records. Hope this helps. Hilary

I was hoping to live long enough to bring my family history into a believable state and FH has helped a fairly smooth collection of information - but I seem to have been given a set of square wheels when incorporating Ancestral Sources. My Great Grandfather married and they were blessed with five children. Unfortunately he was not the best at meeting the Census requirements in 1871 and 1881 and died shortly thereafter and the family split. I found the fifth member and entered her in her place only to find AS and FH has married ggfather twice to the same ggmother - the first time with four children and the second with one. Following the AS instructions for removal of the error does not function and whilst I reverted to a back-up on FH and corrected there, having saved and backed up again, the error has not gone away. The first back-up after I found the error was sent to a "Temporary Folder" and it doesn't seem all that friendly with the earlier back-up folders and is overwritten on the next saving. Please can someone help - I have been unable to find a history of others in this pickle. Peter

Thank you Ron & Shelagh, Looks like one for the wish list. There is nothing to say that the situation changes with Version 5, Clive.

Clive - This subject has come up before. You'll find you cannot use anything outside the ASCII Decimal character set. I have had the same problem in V3.1.2 for some time (and nothing's changed), trying to represent Polish and Lithuanian personal and (more particularly) place names. You can't even get round it by using cut-n-paste from elsewhere e.g. Word. Regrettably this diminishes the appeal of FH in those markets where more exotic diacritical marks are needed, including the USA where so many people have Central or Eastern European forebears. I'm not aware that the situation changes with V5 - or am I wrong? Rod Moulding -----Original Message----- From: family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Clive Spratt Sent: 13 March 2012 17:12 To: family-historian-users@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FHU] Using the Character Map Thank you Jane & Shelagh, In FH Version 4.1.3 using Arial Unicode, Windows Central European or Windows Western with copy and paste from the Character Map the characters appear correctly in the Property Box, but the underlying Diagram does not update correctly. If a Diagram is not open then the Records Window does not update. When the property Box is closed and reopened the characters have reverted to plain characters without the Accent, Caron, Cedilla, or Ogonek. Characters with the Diaeresis (Diacritical, sometimes called the Umlaut) work fine. Help please. Clive Spratt -----Original Message----- From: family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jane Taubman Sent: 12 March 2012 20:42 To: family-historian-users@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FHU] Using the Character Map In order to support those, you will need to ensure the font you are using includes them. So something like Arial with Central European selected should do them. On 12 March 2012 20:19, Clive Spratt <clivespratt@btinternet.com> wrote: > I have been entering some Polish families, but am struggling with > entering characters from the Windows Character Map.  According to the > Knowledge Base > the characters should be useable. > I need the following characters; ą Ą ä Ä  ń Ń  Ś ż.   The following > are fine, ó Ó > > Has anyone any experience of using the Character Map facility? -- Jane. Jane Taubman | www.rjt.org.uk | www.taubman.org.uk |www.fhug.org.uk ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you Jane & Shelagh, In FH Version 4.1.3 using Arial Unicode, Windows Central European or Windows Western with copy and paste from the Character Map the characters appear correctly in the Property Box, but the underlying Diagram does not update correctly. If a Diagram is not open then the Records Window does not update. When the property Box is closed and reopened the characters have reverted to plain characters without the Accent, Caron, Cedilla, or Ogonek. Characters with the Diaeresis (Diacritical, sometimes called the Umlaut) work fine. Help please. Clive Spratt -----Original Message----- From: family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:family-historian-users-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jane Taubman Sent: 12 March 2012 20:42 To: family-historian-users@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FHU] Using the Character Map In order to support those, you will need to ensure the font you are using includes them. So something like Arial with Central European selected should do them. On 12 March 2012 20:19, Clive Spratt <clivespratt@btinternet.com> wrote: > I have been entering some Polish families, but am struggling with entering > characters from the Windows Character Map.  According to the Knowledge Base > the characters should be useable. > I need the following characters; ą Ą ä Ä  ń Ń  Ś ż.   The following are > fine, ó Ó > > Has anyone any experience of using the Character Map facility? -- Jane. Jane Taubman | www.rjt.org.uk | www.taubman.org.uk |www.fhug.org.uk ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message