On 2013/11/23 14:41, Andrea Kent wrote: > I have a couple of ancestors who, although they were alive, will never appear > in certain UK censuses as they were abroad serving in the Army/Navy, etc. I stand to be corrected, but I thought the England & Wales Censuses included those serving overseas in the Armed Forces. I have certainly come across relatives of mine in the Royal Navy based, for example, in Gibraltar. Perhaps this was a Navy 'thing' and didn't apply so much to the Army. -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg

Thanks Mike - I think that is true, certainly for the Navy where ships were included, but my great-grandfather was with the Army in Templemore, Ireland in 1871 and I don't think that was covered. I have another relative (not in the Forces) who was in America in 1851 (and actually recorded in the US 1850 census), so it is these kind of cases that I would like to remove from the missing census report.   Regards, Andrea ________________________________ From: Mike Fry <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, 23 November 2013, 13:39 Subject: Re: [FHU] Missing Census Facts On 2013/11/23 14:41, Andrea Kent wrote: > I have a couple of ancestors who, although they were alive, will never appear > in certain UK censuses as they were abroad serving in the Army/Navy, etc. I stand to be corrected, but I thought the England & Wales Censuses included those serving overseas in the Armed Forces. I have certainly come across relatives of mine in the Royal Navy based, for example, in Gibraltar. Perhaps this was a Navy 'thing' and didn't apply so much to the Army. -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have been using the above plugin, which is very useful, but have identified one issue which I wonder if anyone has a way to solve? I have a couple of ancestors who, although they were alive, will never appear in certain UK censuses as they were abroad serving in the Army/Navy, etc. I have tried putting in a fact with the exact census date stating where they were, but they still show up as 'missing census facts'. Is there any way to eliminate them from these checks (short of putting in a 'dummy' census event, which I don't really want to do)? Thanks in advance for any suggestions,  Andrea

On 23 November 2013 07:49, JayFollett <[email protected]> wrote: > Is there a way of getting a list of people alive in a certain year? Jane suggested the FHUG Download Custom Query "Alive and Age at Date": http://www.fhug.org.uk/wiki/doku.php?id=fhugdownloads:contents:alive_and_age_at_date This might not list everyone you want because it only examines explicit simple Birth and Death dates. FH offers ways of estimating Birth and Death dates from: (1) Birth, Baptism, Christening Events (2) Death, Burial, Cremation Events (3) Date Ranges and Date Periods (4) Dates of Relation's Events This is offered by the =EstimatedBirthDate() and =EstimatedDeathDate() functions. However, if explicit Dates exist then these functions use them to give an accurate Date. They are used by the "Lookup Missing Census Facts" Plugin and could be incorporated into the above Custom Query. Regards, Mike Tate

Jackie asked: <snippet> Is there a way of getting a list of people alive in a certain year? <snippet> If the reason behind this request is to know who to lookup in a Census then there is the FH V5 Plugin "Lookup Missing Census Facts": http://www.family-historian.co.uk/pluginstore/plugin-entry?id=303 This checks who is alive in each Census Year and offers web page links that search Ancestry or FindMyPast for matching Census Returns. It supports all available UK, USA, Canadian, and Australian Census records, and all the various national Ancestry and FindMyPast web sites. Regards, Mike Tate

On 23 November 2013 07:49, JayFollett <[email protected]> wrote: > Is there a way of getting a list of people alive in a certain year? > Have you tried http://www.fhug.org.uk/wiki/doku.php?id=fhugdownloads:contents:alive_and_age_at_date -- Jane. Jane Taubman | www.rjt.org.uk | www.taubman.org.uk |www.fhug.org.uk

Is there a way of getting a list of people alive in a certain year? Jackie

Thank you for the warning Mike. It really doesn't matter if I delete the other notes as well. I just want to make sure nothing sensitive gets into the public arena. Thanks again for your help. -----Original Message----- From: Beryl & Mike Tate Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2013 10:40 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [FHU] Exporting a gedcom minus notes Walton, I hope you checked your data carefully. The Split Tree Helper option deletes Notes in many more places than that. It deletes all Notes added to Facts, and all Notes added to Citations, and to Sources, and to Multimedia. Regards, Mike Tate -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of walton Sent: 12 November 2013 20:21 To: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: Re: [FHU] Exporting a gedcom minus notes Thank you so much. That worked brilliantly and saved me a lot of work. <snippet> To delete those you need to use the Split Tree helper, which deletes unwanted data. This does NOT export - instead it deletes stuff on the GEDCOM file you've opened, so export it first and then use File / Split Tree Helper option. Down at the bottom of that window, you see options to remove Notes WITHIN records, which is what you need. <snippet> ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Ah yes, that's the whole idea. The sole purpose of such a tree in my case is to attract potential cousins/enquiries, after which I am happy to share whatever is relevant, not to merely give away my research willy nilly. The "basic" tree goes to Tribal Pages (open) and Genes Reunited (closed). The whole shebang goes to TNG, but is controlled. Thanks, though - the split tree helper does help so far. Kath On 12/11/2013 23:01, Beryl & Mike Tate wrote: > Kath, > I think that would need a Plugin, but it doesn't leave much! > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kath Liddell > Sent: 12 November 2013 22:29 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [FHU] Exporting a gedcom minus notes > > Thanks Mike, > > Is there any way also to exclude the sub-categories of these facts e.g. > address, age and cause of death etc. > I think I'm making heavy weather of this. > > Kath > > On 12/11/2013 21:40, Beryl & Mike Tate wrote: >> Kath, >> The Split Tree Helper has an option to "Delete all facts listed below" or "Delete all facts except list below". >> >

Thank you so much. That worked brilliantly and saved me a lot of work. -----Original Message----- From: Adrian Bruce Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2013 11:56 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [FHU] Exporting a gedcom minus notes <<snipped>> I want to export a gedcom file from Family Historian without any of the private and somewhat sensitive notes. I have been to Export - Gedcom and checked the Note records and Private notes boxes to exclude those items, but the resulting gedcom still contains all my notes. <<snipped>> The "Export GEDCOM File - exclude Note Records" option only exclude note RECORDS - They are not the same as the notes that you add against individual facts, nor the notes that apply to an individual on the Notes tab of an individual's property box. Those cannot be removed by that option. To delete those you need to use the Split Tree helper, which deletes unwanted data. This does NOT export - instead it deletes stuff on the GEDCOM file you've opened, so export it first and then use File / Split Tree Helper option. Down at the bottom of that window, you see options to remove Notes WITHIN records, which is what you need. Take a copy before you start deleting stuff! Adrian B ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

When I copy gedcom to my ftm software notes have never been transferred nor have photos. I am not bothered about these missing pieces as ftm simply provides me with a link to other peoples trees via ancestry and that has saved me a lot of time in searches. So if one wants to delete notes copy to another software. Though it may mean losing photos and census images but others may tell you have to keep these. Victor Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device -----Original Message----- From: "Beryl & Mike Tate" <[email protected]> Sender: [email protected] Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2013 21:40:52 To: <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [FHU] Exporting a gedcom minus notes Walton, I hope you checked your data carefully. You said earlier: "I only want to remove the individual and family notes from the Notes tab." The Split Tree Helper option deletes Notes in many more places than that. It deletes all Notes added to Facts, and all Notes added to Citations, and to Sources, and to Multimedia. So you may have deleted more than you bargained for. Regards, Mike Tate -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of walton Sent: 12 November 2013 20:21 To: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: Re: [FHU] Exporting a gedcom minus notes Thank you so much. That worked brilliantly and saved me a lot of work. <snippet> To delete those you need to use the Split Tree helper, which deletes unwanted data. This does NOT export - instead it deletes stuff on the GEDCOM file you've opened, so export it first and then use File / Split Tree Helper option. Down at the bottom of that window, you see options to remove Notes WITHIN records, which is what you need. <snippet> ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you for your response. I only want to remove the individual and family notes from the Notes tab. -----Original Message----- From: Beryl & Mike Tate Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2013 11:08 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [FHU] Exporting a gedcom minus notes Walton said: <snippet> I want to export a gedcom file from Family Historian without any of the private and somewhat sensitive notes. I I don’t want to export any of my notes private or otherwise. <snippet> Walton, you are doing nothing wrong, except not having the foresight to enclose all [[private]] Notes in [[square brackets]] over the years you have been entering them. FH itself has no option for stripping Note fields, so the only options are to plain text edit the exported GEDCOM file, or use a V5 Plugin, to strip the Note fields. Unfortunately, a plain text edit is not straightforward because continuation (CONT) & concatenation (CONC) tags used in long Notes (NOTE) also appear in other long multi-line text fields such as Address (ADDR), Text From Source (TEXT), etc. Do you REALLY want to remove ALL Note fields in ALL Records & Facts - Individual, Family, Source, Multimedia, etc, regardless? If so, and you have FH V5, I could probably write a Plugin for you. Regards, Mike Tate ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Kath, I think that would need a Plugin, but it doesn't leave much! -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kath Liddell Sent: 12 November 2013 22:29 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [FHU] Exporting a gedcom minus notes Thanks Mike, Is there any way also to exclude the sub-categories of these facts e.g. address, age and cause of death etc. I think I'm making heavy weather of this. Kath On 12/11/2013 21:40, Beryl & Mike Tate wrote: > Kath, > The Split Tree Helper has an option to "Delete all facts listed below" or "Delete all facts except list below". >

Thanks Mike, Is there any way also to exclude the sub-categories of these facts e.g. address, age and cause of death etc. I think I'm making heavy weather of this. Kath On 12/11/2013 21:40, Beryl & Mike Tate wrote: > Kath, > The Split Tree Helper has an option to "Delete all facts listed below" or "Delete all facts except list below". > >

Help, I have a problem. I want to export a gedcom file from Family Historian without any of the private and somewhat sensitive notes. I have been to Export – Gedcom and checked the Note records and Private notes boxes to exclude those items, but the resulting gedcom still contains all my notes. I should say I haven’t made any of my notes Private on my regular database and to go through thousands of records to do so would take for ever. What am I doing wrong? I don’t want to export any of my notes private or otherwise.

Kath, The Split Tree Helper has an option to "Delete all facts listed below" or "Delete all facts except list below". -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kath Liddell Sent: 12 November 2013 12:36 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [FHU] Exporting a gedcom minus notes I would really appreciate an export facility which would include only 'basic' facts, with no notes or sources. I have two online family files - one goes to TNG which contains everything from FH except 'private' notes and is password protected ... fine. The other goes to Tribal Pages where I want to show only 'basic' bmds and NOTHING else. The easiest way I can see at the moment is to export to another program (currently Legacy, though I don't use this routinely) and then export the basic data from there.

Walton, I hope you checked your data carefully. You said earlier: "I only want to remove the individual and family notes from the Notes tab." The Split Tree Helper option deletes Notes in many more places than that. It deletes all Notes added to Facts, and all Notes added to Citations, and to Sources, and to Multimedia. So you may have deleted more than you bargained for. Regards, Mike Tate -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of walton Sent: 12 November 2013 20:21 To: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: Re: [FHU] Exporting a gedcom minus notes Thank you so much. That worked brilliantly and saved me a lot of work. <snippet> To delete those you need to use the Split Tree helper, which deletes unwanted data. This does NOT export - instead it deletes stuff on the GEDCOM file you've opened, so export it first and then use File / Split Tree Helper option. Down at the bottom of that window, you see options to remove Notes WITHIN records, which is what you need. <snippet>

I would really appreciate an export facility which would include only 'basic' facts, with no notes or sources. I have two online family files - one goes to TNG which contains everything from FH except 'private' notes and is password protected ... fine. The other goes to Tribal Pages where I want to show only 'basic' bmds and NOTHING else. The easiest way I can see at the moment is to export to another program (currently Legacy, though I don't use this routinely) and then export the basic data from there. I have seen similar requests in the past, so a plugin would be very useful - or better still to incorporate the facility in the next FH update (please). Kath <snip> On 12/11/2013 10:08, Beryl & Mike Tate wrote: > Do you REALLY want to remove ALL Note fields in ALL Records & Facts - Individual, Family, Source, Multimedia, etc, regardless? > If so, and you have FH V5, I could probably write a Plugin for you. > > Regards, Mike Tate > <snip>

<<snipped>> I want to export a gedcom file from Family Historian without any of the private and somewhat sensitive notes. I have been to Export - Gedcom and checked the Note records and Private notes boxes to exclude those items, but the resulting gedcom still contains all my notes. <<snipped>> What sort of notes are they? The "Export GEDCOM File - exclude Note Records" option only exclude note RECORDS - these are sometimes referred to as Shared Notes (because they can be linked from multiple people) and are visible in the Records window under the Notes tab. They are not the same as the notes that you add against individual facts, nor the notes that apply to an individual on the Notes tab of an individual's property box. Those cannot be removed by that option. To delete those you need to use the Split Tree helper, which deletes unwanted data. This does NOT export - instead it deletes stuff on the GEDCOM file you've opened, so export it first and then use File / Split Tree Helper option. Down at the bottom of that window, you see options to remove Notes WITHIN records, which is what you need. Take a copy before you start deleting stuff! Adrian B

Doesn't the Split Tree Helper do that (in v3 - I've no experience of later versions)? -----Original Message----- From: Beryl & Mike Tate <[email protected]> Sent: 12 November 2013 10:08:24 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [FHU] Exporting a gedcom minus notes > FH itself has no option for stripping Note fields