A friend who has recently started using Family Historian (FHv5, with the upgrade to v5.0.9) has come up with the following problem: When viewing a source record, the Custom Id title & box is no longer being displayed, there is just an empty space where it should be. I looked at his Customize Property Box parameters for sources, and checked it against what I have defined on my PC, and the Author & Custom ID parameter is showing on both PC's (the box displays normally on my PC). Any ideas on how to get this field and contents displayed again - he has entered data in this field (which is still within the Gedcom file), and would like to see it again. Regards Anne Algar 12A, Howell Road, Heckington, Sleaford, Lincs NG34 9RX phone : 01529 460877 e-mail : <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected]

Bob said: <snippet> This all applies provided one hasn't changed the theme. Those of us who prefer a classic theme sacrifice these subtleties for the sake of also sacrificing clutter. <snippet> I tried Classic Theme and everything I described below remained essentially the same except the thumbnails became a small icon list. Regarding clutter, I found it worse because EVERY open Window has a Taskbar entry that clutters up the Taskbar. Whereas with the modern themes each Program only has one entry in the Taskbar but popup thumbnails for its open Windows, that to me is less cluttered. Regards, Mike Tate On 26/11/2013 21:47, Beryl & Mike Tate wrote: > Victor said: > <snippet> > > When any pinned program is closed its Taskbar icon is small with NO highlighted border. > When you hover the cursor on it you just get a small tooltip of its name. > > When any pinned program is open its Taskbar icon is wide with a highlighted border. > When you hover the cursor on it you get thumbnails of all its open widows. > > It all looks very clear to me whether a program is open or not. >

This all applies provided one hasn't changed the theme. Those of us who prefer a classic theme sacrifice these subtleties for the sake of also sacrificing clutter. :-) Bob On 26/11/2013 21:47, Beryl & Mike Tate wrote: > Victor said: > <snippet> > > When any pinned program is closed its Taskbar icon is small with NO highlighted border. > When you hover the cursor on it you just get a small tooltip of its name. > > When any pinned program is open its Taskbar icon is wide with a highlighted border. > When you hover the cursor on it you get thumbnails of all its open widows. > > It all looks very clear to me whether a program is open or not. > >

Victor said: <snippet> One problem I find with pinning FH to the task bar is you have no idea if it was open or not. <snippet> When any pinned program is closed its Taskbar icon is small with NO highlighted border. When you hover the cursor on it you just get a small tooltip of its name. When any pinned program is open its Taskbar icon is wide with a highlighted border. When you hover the cursor on it you get thumbnails of all its open widows. It all looks very clear to me whether a program is open or not. Regards, Mike Tate

One problem I find with pinning FH to the task bar is you have no idea if it was open or not. There have been times when I am shutting down my computer and all open items needed to be closed. Prompting FH only to find I had not opened it meant I had to wait until it opened before closing it again. I decided to remove it from the task bar. When I open FH it will appear on the task bar (though not pinned) so I know it is open. Victor On 26/11/2013 8:09 PM, Beryl & Mike Tate wrote: > Paddy said: > <snippet> > The FH symbol lives on my Taskbar. When I right click it the new screen shows 1 Project as Pinned and up to 10 Projects as Recent. > Near the bottom of the screen is an option to Unpin this program from taskbar. Is this screen controlled by FH or by Windows? I > can find no reference to it in my Printed Manual or in Online Help. I find it useful to switch between two or more Projects when I > want to transfer Notes, for example. It would be even more useful if I could open 2 FH Projects at the same time, as I can when > editing Word documents. > <snippet> > > This feature was introduced by Windows 7 and is called a Jump List. > If you Google search for "Windows 7 Jump List" there is a load of info. > > It works much the same for virtually all programs. > If you hover on any entry in the list there is a pin to the right that allows the entry to be pinned / unpinned. > The Jump List also appears if you hover on a program on the Start Menu. > > You can run as many instances of FH on different Projects just like you can instances of Word on different documents. > > Regards, Mike Tate > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Paddy said: <snippet> The FH symbol lives on my Taskbar. When I right click it the new screen shows 1 Project as Pinned and up to 10 Projects as Recent. Near the bottom of the screen is an option to Unpin this program from taskbar. Is this screen controlled by FH or by Windows? I can find no reference to it in my Printed Manual or in Online Help. I find it useful to switch between two or more Projects when I want to transfer Notes, for example. It would be even more useful if I could open 2 FH Projects at the same time, as I can when editing Word documents. <snippet> This feature was introduced by Windows 7 and is called a Jump List. If you Google search for "Windows 7 Jump List" there is a load of info. It works much the same for virtually all programs. If you hover on any entry in the list there is a pin to the right that allows the entry to be pinned / unpinned. The Jump List also appears if you hover on a program on the Start Menu. You can run as many instances of FH on different Projects just like you can instances of Word on different documents. Regards, Mike Tate

Pinning is a Windows function. It would be even more useful if I could open 2 FH Projects at the same > time, as I can when editing Word documents. You can open as many copies of Family Historian as you want, assuming you have pinned FH, just right click on the taskbar button and select Family Historian 5 or the Project you want to open and another instance will open -- Jane. Jane Taubman | www.rjt.org.uk | www.taubman.org.uk |www.fhug.org.uk

The FH symbol lives on my Taskbar. When I right click it the new screen shows 1 Project as Pinned and up to 10 Projects as Recent. Near the bottom of the screen is an option to Unpin this program from taskbar. Is this screen controlled by FH or by Windows? I can find no reference to it in my Printed Manual or in Online Help. I find it useful to switch between two or more Projects when I want to transfer Notes, for example. It would be even more useful if I could open 2 FH Projects at the same time, as I can when editing Word documents. Paddy Buckley

I should have said that to solve your problem of someone just visiting the USA, or any other non-specific reason to be abroad, could simply have a Residence Fact for the Census Date with any Place name that indicates where they are staying. e.g. Fact: Residence Date: 30 Mar 1851 Place: USA That would prevent them being listed as missing from the UK 1851 Census. There may need to be several similar Facts for various Dates to prevent someone being listed missing from other Census years &/or countries. Regards, Mike Tate -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Andrea Kent Sent: 24 November 2013 23:45 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [FHU] Missing Census Facts Thanks Mike for an amazingly fast solution! Just off to bed now, but will try it out tomorrow. Andrea ________________________________ From: Beryl & Mike Tate <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, 24 November 2013, 23:00 Subject: Re: [FHU] Missing Census Facts I have given this some more thought and believe I have a solution similar to your suggestion. Naturally there must be no Census Event for the Census Year in question. Then the person will be listed with a missing Census unless the following conditions apply. The idea of a Fact with exactly the same single Date as the Census Date works very well. For various reasons I won't bore you with, it cannot be a Period, Range, or Quarter Date nor have any Qualifiers. Its Place field must contain some text that does NOT match the Census Country being searched. e.g. For the U.K. Census the recognised Country names I have chosen are England, Wales, Scotland, UK and U.K. Such names must be delimited by a comma & space or be at the start or end of the Place field. This prevents place names such as New England or New South Wales being falsely recognised as a U.K. Census country. Overriding all that is a tick box to enable/disable this feature and maintain compatibility with earlier versions of the Plugin. If you would like to try my candidate new V3.0 Plugin then download and install it from my SkyDrive store: http://sdrv.ms/1hbQUuj It will replace V2.9 but if there are any problems then V2.9 can be re-installed from the FH Plugin Store, although it will reset to installation default settings. Regards, Mike Tate -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Beryl & Mike Tate Sent: 23 November 2013 20:47 To: 'Andrea Kent'; [email protected] Subject: Re: [FHU] Missing Census Facts Andrea, I guess any Fact  with a Date or Date Range/Period that matched the Census Date, but in a different Country than the chosen Census records, would be enough. That would also resolve the problem of the common Census Dates for different Countries. The trickiest bit is deciding the Country is different, because it may be recorded as England or Wales or U.K. rather than UK, or U.S.A. instead of USA, etc. Whatever rules the Plugin uses they must work for all users and for all Census Countries and Dates, not just the UK. I will give it a bit more thought. Regards, Mike Tate -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Andrea Kent Sent: 23 November 2013 18:54 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [FHU] Missing Census Facts Thanks Mike, I will have a think about this, and come back to you. My first reaction is that I don't really like a 'non-event' -  but possibly a real event (e.g. serving in the 85th Foot Regiment) with the same date as the census, but with a different country (e.g. Ireland)?? How easy would it be to identify that if such an fact existed (and there was no census fact for that date) and the country was not UK, then that individual would not appear in the missing list? For the other case I mentioned (someone not in the Forces, but just visiting the US for an extended period), I guess I would just have to think of some other fact (visiting??) to meet the criteria. If I think of other possibilities, will let you know.   Regards, Andrea

Thanks Mike for an amazingly fast solution! Just off to bed now, but will try it out tomorrow. Andrea ________________________________ From: Beryl & Mike Tate <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, 24 November 2013, 23:00 Subject: Re: [FHU] Missing Census Facts I have given this some more thought and believe I have a solution similar to your suggestion. Naturally there must be no Census Event for the Census Year in question. Then the person will be listed with a missing Census unless the following conditions apply. The idea of a Fact with exactly the same single Date as the Census Date works very well. For various reasons I won't bore you with, it cannot be a Period, Range, or Quarter Date nor have any Qualifiers. Its Place field must contain some text that does NOT match the Census Country being searched. e.g. For the U.K. Census the recognised Country names I have chosen are England, Wales, Scotland, UK and U.K. Such names must be delimited by a comma & space or be at the start or end of the Place field. This prevents place names such as New England or New South Wales being falsely recognised as a U.K. Census country. Overriding all that is a tick box to enable/disable this feature and maintain compatibility with earlier versions of the Plugin. If you would like to try my candidate new V3.0 Plugin then download and install it from my SkyDrive store: http://sdrv.ms/1hbQUuj It will replace V2.9 but if there are any problems then V2.9 can be re-installed from the FH Plugin Store, although it will reset to installation default settings. Regards, Mike Tate -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Beryl & Mike Tate Sent: 23 November 2013 20:47 To: 'Andrea Kent'; [email protected] Subject: Re: [FHU] Missing Census Facts Andrea, I guess any Fact  with a Date or Date Range/Period that matched the Census Date, but in a different Country than the chosen Census records, would be enough. That would also resolve the problem of the common Census Dates for different Countries. The trickiest bit is deciding the Country is different, because it may be recorded as England or Wales or U.K. rather than UK, or U.S.A. instead of USA, etc. Whatever rules the Plugin uses they must work for all users and for all Census Countries and Dates, not just the UK. I will give it a bit more thought. Regards, Mike Tate -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Andrea Kent Sent: 23 November 2013 18:54 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [FHU] Missing Census Facts Thanks Mike, I will have a think about this, and come back to you. My first reaction is that I don't really like a 'non-event' -  but possibly a real event (e.g. serving in the 85th Foot Regiment) with the same date as the census, but with a different country (e.g. Ireland)?? How easy would it be to identify that if such an fact existed (and there was no census fact for that date) and the country was not UK, then that individual would not appear in the missing list? For the other case I mentioned (someone not in the Forces, but just visiting the US for an extended period), I guess I would just have to think of some other fact (visiting??) to meet the criteria. If I think of other possibilities, will let you know.   Regards, Andrea ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have given this some more thought and believe I have a solution similar to your suggestion. Naturally there must be no Census Event for the Census Year in question. Then the person will be listed with a missing Census unless the following conditions apply. The idea of a Fact with exactly the same single Date as the Census Date works very well. For various reasons I won't bore you with, it cannot be a Period, Range, or Quarter Date nor have any Qualifiers. Its Place field must contain some text that does NOT match the Census Country being searched. e.g. For the U.K. Census the recognised Country names I have chosen are England, Wales, Scotland, UK and U.K. Such names must be delimited by a comma & space or be at the start or end of the Place field. This prevents place names such as New England or New South Wales being falsely recognised as a U.K. Census country. Overriding all that is a tick box to enable/disable this feature and maintain compatibility with earlier versions of the Plugin. If you would like to try my candidate new V3.0 Plugin then download and install it from my SkyDrive store: http://sdrv.ms/1hbQUuj It will replace V2.9 but if there are any problems then V2.9 can be re-installed from the FH Plugin Store, although it will reset to installation default settings. Regards, Mike Tate -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Beryl & Mike Tate Sent: 23 November 2013 20:47 To: 'Andrea Kent'; [email protected] Subject: Re: [FHU] Missing Census Facts Andrea, I guess any Fact with a Date or Date Range/Period that matched the Census Date, but in a different Country than the chosen Census records, would be enough. That would also resolve the problem of the common Census Dates for different Countries. The trickiest bit is deciding the Country is different, because it may be recorded as England or Wales or U.K. rather than UK, or U.S.A. instead of USA, etc. Whatever rules the Plugin uses they must work for all users and for all Census Countries and Dates, not just the UK. I will give it a bit more thought. Regards, Mike Tate -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Andrea Kent Sent: 23 November 2013 18:54 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [FHU] Missing Census Facts Thanks Mike, I will have a think about this, and come back to you. My first reaction is that I don't really like a 'non-event' -  but possibly a real event (e.g. serving in the 85th Foot Regiment) with the same date as the census, but with a different country (e.g. Ireland)?? How easy would it be to identify that if such an fact existed (and there was no census fact for that date) and the country was not UK, then that individual would not appear in the missing list? For the other case I mentioned (someone not in the Forces, but just visiting the US for an extended period), I guess I would just have to think of some other fact (visiting??) to meet the criteria. If I think of other possibilities, will let you know.   Regards, Andrea

Sid has problems with Property Box customisation and asked <snippet> Presumably there is a settings file generated when changes, such as this are made. Has anyone any idea what this file may be? <snippet> Have you followed the advice in the FHUG Family Historian Installation Guide on how to Move Family Historian Settings & Projects: http://www.fhug.org.uk/wiki/doku.php?id=how_to:move_settings All the customisation files for Property Box, Diagrams, Queries, Reports, etc are not stored with the Project data. They are in a different folder on Windows XP than on Windows 7 so may be Laplink has put them in the wrong place. The FHUG advice above explains where these two Program Data Folders are located so you may be able to find it on Windows 7 in the XP location If you still have access to the Windows XP PC then the FH V5 Plugin "Backup and Restore Family Historian Settings" offers another way to transfer the settings reliably. That is also mentioned in the FHUG advice. Regards, Mike Tate

I used Laplink to move from an old XP PC to a slightly newer one running Win 7. Everything in FH5 (previously upgraded from FH4) seems to work fine, except that the Properties window MAIN tab simply shows a list of children. Using the Customize Properties box shows nothing in the Selected Items window. If I move items over from the Available items, e.g NAME, and then click OK, nothing happens. If I return to the Customize Properties box, any previously added items are no longer there in Selected items. Presumably there is a settings file generated when changes, such as this are made. Has anyone any idea what this file may be? Thanks Sid Katzen

Adrian That would be fine but the census returns for Ireland prior to 1901 were destroyed in the early 1900's Regards John Hanson -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Adrian Bruce Sent: 23 November 2013 16:34 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [FHU] Missing Census Facts <<snipped>> I think that is true, certainly for the Navy where ships were included, but my great-grandfather was with the Army in Templemore, Ireland in 1871 and I don't think that was covered. I have another relative (not in the Forces) who was in America in 1851 (and actually recorded in the US 1850 census), <<snipped>> According to http://www.ukcensusonline.com/census/1911.php the 1911 census "is the first census to record full details of British Army personnel stationed overseas." Note that "overseas" must surely(?) mean outside the UK. Someone in the Army in Ireland in 1871 would be covered in the Irish census of that year. As for the Royal navy, that is mentioned in the FMP Blog on http://blog.findmypast.co.uk/2011/07/ask-the-expert-disappeared-in-the-1881- census That mentions "separate census returns for Royal Navy At Sea" in some (but not all) of the earlier censuses. And no, I don't know what "At Sea" meant! Adrian B ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Despite claims that 'all Royal Navy ships' are listed in the 1901 census, I know for a fact that at least one isn't. HMS Centurion which had been out in China since 1899 didn't return to England until about July 1901. Pam 23/11/2013 23:57, Nina Jenkins wrote: > <snip> That mentions "separate census returns for Royal Navy At Sea" in > some (but > not all) of the earlier censuses. And no, I don't know what "At Sea" meant! > > It means that all ships not in a UK port. Captains were given forms to > complete on census night wherever in the world they were, if not in a UK > port. The Royal Navy was rather better organised than merchant shipping, so > returns are fairly comprehensive but, inevitably, some did not hand them in > when they returned home at the end of a commission. > > Nina > > > > > On 23 November 2013 16:33, Adrian Bruce <[email protected]> wrote: > >> <<snipped>> >> I think that is true, certainly for the Navy where ships were included, but >> my great-grandfather was with the Army in Templemore, Ireland in 1871 and I >> don't think that was covered. I have another relative (not in the Forces) >> who was in America in 1851 (and actually recorded in the US 1850 census), >> <<snipped>> >> >> According to http://www.ukcensusonline.com/census/1911.php the 1911 census >> "is the first census to record full details of British Army personnel >> stationed overseas." Note that "overseas" must surely(?) mean outside the >> UK. Someone in the Army in Ireland in 1871 would be covered in the Irish >> census of that year. >> >> As for the Royal navy, that is mentioned in the FMP Blog on >> >> http://blog.findmypast.co.uk/2011/07/ask-the-expert-disappeared-in-the-1881- >> census >> >> That mentions "separate census returns for Royal Navy At Sea" in some (but >> not all) of the earlier censuses. And no, I don't know what "At Sea" meant! >> >> Adrian B >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

<snip> That mentions "separate census returns for Royal Navy At Sea" in some (but not all) of the earlier censuses. And no, I don't know what "At Sea" meant! It means that all ships not in a UK port. Captains were given forms to complete on census night wherever in the world they were, if not in a UK port. The Royal Navy was rather better organised than merchant shipping, so returns are fairly comprehensive but, inevitably, some did not hand them in when they returned home at the end of a commission. Nina On 23 November 2013 16:33, Adrian Bruce <[email protected]> wrote: > <<snipped>> > I think that is true, certainly for the Navy where ships were included, but > my great-grandfather was with the Army in Templemore, Ireland in 1871 and I > don't think that was covered. I have another relative (not in the Forces) > who was in America in 1851 (and actually recorded in the US 1850 census), > <<snipped>> > > According to http://www.ukcensusonline.com/census/1911.php the 1911 census > "is the first census to record full details of British Army personnel > stationed overseas." Note that "overseas" must surely(?) mean outside the > UK. Someone in the Army in Ireland in 1871 would be covered in the Irish > census of that year. > > As for the Royal navy, that is mentioned in the FMP Blog on > > http://blog.findmypast.co.uk/2011/07/ask-the-expert-disappeared-in-the-1881- > census > > That mentions "separate census returns for Royal Navy At Sea" in some (but > not all) of the earlier censuses. And no, I don't know what "At Sea" meant! > > Adrian B > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Andrea, I guess any Fact with a Date or Date Range/Period that matched the Census Date, but in a different Country than the chosen Census records, would be enough. That would also resolve the problem of the common Census Dates for different Countries. The trickiest bit is deciding the Country is different, because it may be recorded as England or Wales or U.K. rather than UK, or U.S.A. instead of USA, etc. Whatever rules the Plugin uses they must work for all users and for all Census Countries and Dates, not just the UK. I will give it a bit more thought. Regards, Mike Tate -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Andrea Kent Sent: 23 November 2013 18:54 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [FHU] Missing Census Facts Thanks Mike, I will have a think about this, and come back to you. My first reaction is that I don't really like a 'non-event' -  but possibly a real event (e.g. serving in the 85th Foot Regiment) with the same date as the census, but with a different country (e.g. Ireland)?? How easy would it be to identify that if such an fact existed (and there was no census fact for that date) and the country was not UK, then that individual would not appear in the missing list? For the other case I mentioned (someone not in the Forces, but just visiting the US for an extended period), I guess I would just have to think of some other fact (visiting??) to meet the criteria. If I think of other possibilities, will let you know.   Regards, Andrea ________________________________ From: Beryl & Mike Tate <[email protected]> To: 'Andrea Kent' <[email protected]>; [email protected] Sent: Saturday, 23 November 2013, 18:01 Subject: Re: [FHU] Missing Census Facts Hi Andrea, As the Plugin author I welcome your feedback. It would be very easy for the Plugin to be adapted to recognise a Fact (or something else) to omit an Individual from the Missing Facts list. The Plugin could even offer to create a Custom Fact Set definition (or whatever) using an interface button. The community just needs to decide what name to assign to the Fact (or whatever) - suggestions welcome. The problem with a Fact is that it is recording a Non-Event, which is a little unusual, and needs special attention to avoid its inclusion in Reports, etc. There is also a small number of Censuses that took place in different countries on the same date: 2 Apr 1871 UK and Canada 5 Apr 1891 UK and Australia 31 Mar 1901 UK and Canada and Australia So maybe we need an Fact named "Missing From Census" with its Place including the Country and the Date set to the Census Year. The Sentence Template could be something like {individual} did not appear in the Census {place} {date} Regards, Mike Tate -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Andrea Kent Sent: 23 November 2013 12:41 To: [email protected] Subject: [FHU] Missing Census Facts I have been using the above plugin, which is very useful, but have identified one issue which I wonder if anyone has a way to solve? I have a couple of ancestors who, although they were alive, will never appear in certain UK censuses as they were abroad serving in the Army/Navy, etc. I have tried putting in a fact with the exact census date stating where they were, but they still show up as 'missing census facts'. Is there any way to eliminate them from these checks (short of putting in a 'dummy' census event, which I don't really want to do)? Andrea

Thanks Mike, I will have a think about this, and come back to you. My first reaction is that I don't really like a 'non-event' -  but possibly a real event (e.g. serving in the 85th Foot Regiment) with the same date as the census, but with a different country (e.g. Ireland)?? How easy would it be to identify that if such an fact existed (and there was no census fact for that date) and the country was not UK, then that individual would not appear in the missing list?  For the other case I mentioned (someone not in the Forces, but just visiting the US for an extended period), I guess I would just have to think of some other fact (visiting??) to meet the criteria. If I think of other possibilities, will let you know.   Regards, Andrea ________________________________ From: Beryl & Mike Tate <[email protected]> To: 'Andrea Kent' <[email protected]>; [email protected] Sent: Saturday, 23 November 2013, 18:01 Subject: Re: [FHU] Missing Census Facts Hi Andrea, As the Plugin author I welcome your feedback. It would be very easy for the Plugin to be adapted to recognise a Fact (or something else) to omit an Individual from the Missing Facts list. The Plugin could even offer to create a Custom Fact Set definition (or whatever) using an interface button. The community just needs to decide what name to assign to the Fact (or whatever) - suggestions welcome. The problem with a Fact is that it is recording a Non-Event, which is a little unusual, and needs special attention to avoid its inclusion in Reports, etc. There is also a small number of Censuses that took place in different countries on the same date: 2 Apr 1871 UK and Canada 5 Apr 1891 UK and Australia 31 Mar 1901 UK and Canada and Australia So maybe we need an Fact named "Missing From Census" with its Place including the Country and the Date set to the Census Year. The Sentence Template could be something like {individual} did not appear in the Census {place} {date} Regards, Mike Tate -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Andrea Kent Sent: 23 November 2013 12:41 To: [email protected] Subject: [FHU] Missing Census Facts I have been using the above plugin, which is very useful, but have identified one issue which I wonder if anyone has a way to solve? I have a couple of ancestors who, although they were alive, will never appear in certain UK censuses as they were abroad serving in the Army/Navy, etc. I have tried putting in a fact with the exact census date stating where they were, but they still show up as 'missing census facts'. Is there any way to eliminate them from these checks (short of putting in a 'dummy' census event, which I don't really want to do)? Andrea ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Andrea, As the Plugin author I welcome your feedback. It would be very easy for the Plugin to be adapted to recognise a Fact (or something else) to omit an Individual from the Missing Facts list. The Plugin could even offer to create a Custom Fact Set definition (or whatever) using an interface button. The community just needs to decide what name to assign to the Fact (or whatever) - suggestions welcome. The problem with a Fact is that it is recording a Non-Event, which is a little unusual, and needs special attention to avoid its inclusion in Reports, etc. There is also a small number of Censuses that took place in different countries on the same date: 2 Apr 1871 UK and Canada 5 Apr 1891 UK and Australia 31 Mar 1901 UK and Canada and Australia So maybe we need an Fact named "Missing From Census" with its Place including the Country and the Date set to the Census Year. The Sentence Template could be something like {individual} did not appear in the Census {place} {date} Regards, Mike Tate -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Andrea Kent Sent: 23 November 2013 12:41 To: [email protected] Subject: [FHU] Missing Census Facts I have been using the above plugin, which is very useful, but have identified one issue which I wonder if anyone has a way to solve? I have a couple of ancestors who, although they were alive, will never appear in certain UK censuses as they were abroad serving in the Army/Navy, etc. I have tried putting in a fact with the exact census date stating where they were, but they still show up as 'missing census facts'. Is there any way to eliminate them from these checks (short of putting in a 'dummy' census event, which I don't really want to do)? Andrea

<<snipped>> I think that is true, certainly for the Navy where ships were included, but my great-grandfather was with the Army in Templemore, Ireland in 1871 and I don't think that was covered. I have another relative (not in the Forces) who was in America in 1851 (and actually recorded in the US 1850 census), <<snipped>> According to http://www.ukcensusonline.com/census/1911.php the 1911 census "is the first census to record full details of British Army personnel stationed overseas." Note that "overseas" must surely(?) mean outside the UK. Someone in the Army in Ireland in 1871 would be covered in the Irish census of that year. As for the Royal navy, that is mentioned in the FMP Blog on http://blog.findmypast.co.uk/2011/07/ask-the-expert-disappeared-in-the-1881- census That mentions "separate census returns for Royal Navy At Sea" in some (but not all) of the earlier censuses. And no, I don't know what "At Sea" meant! Adrian B