Hi Victor I have other peoples trees un-ticked on my Ancestry tree so I don't see them, only hints on the facts databases and I check those as they are added.. Mike On 02/01/2014 11:09, Victor Markham wrote: > Hi Mike > > Having things automatically included on your Ancestry tree does not > guarantee the accuracy of the information. If you downloaded this on to > a FH tree there could many duplicates which you may have to sort out. > That itself will be very time consuming. I have never checked my tree on > Ancestry so have no idea if there have been any automatic additions. > Even if there were I don't think I would be happy with that as I would > like to know what has been added. I just follow any hints that turn up > non Ancestry and check these for their accuracy. The only way you can be > accurate abut anything is if you check them yourself even then you can't > be 100% sure. But if I were not happy about anything then I just ignore > the details. > > Victor >

Mike Fisher said <snippet> I have my tree on Ancestry and I too would like to be able to download and merge into FH. I find all sorts of information on Ancestry and it is automatically included in my online tree and it is a real pain to have to enter it all individually in other programs apart from FTM which automatically syncs with the on-line tree. <snippet> If you have your Ancestry tree synced with FTM then it can be transferred to FH V5. See the FHUG Knowledge Base on Importing from FTM: http://www.fhug.org.uk/wiki/doku.php?id=how_to:import_from_family_tree_maker Happy New Year, Mike Tate

Hi Mike Having things automatically included on your Ancestry tree does not guarantee the accuracy of the information. If you downloaded this on to a FH tree there could many duplicates which you may have to sort out. That itself will be very time consuming. I have never checked my tree on Ancestry so have no idea if there have been any automatic additions. Even if there were I don't think I would be happy with that as I would like to know what has been added. I just follow any hints that turn up non Ancestry and check these for their accuracy. The only way you can be accurate abut anything is if you check them yourself even then you can't be 100% sure. But if I were not happy about anything then I just ignore the details. Victor On 02/01/2014 10:11 AM, Michael Fisher wrote: > Hi Victor > > I have my tree on Ancestry and I too would like to be able to download > and merge into FH. > I find all sorts of information on Ancestry and it is automatically > included in my online tree and it is a real pain to have to enter it all > individually in other programs apart from FTM which automatically syncs > with the on-line tree. > > I don't want to download other peoples trees from Ancestry. > > Mike Fisher > On 02/01/2014 08:09, Victor Markham wrote: >> I have copied lots of information from other peoples trees on Ancestry >> but never once have I downloaded any. I much prefer to check each >> individual name and confirm the accuracy. I also copied photographs from >> these trees except census images. It is by far better to download census >> images direct from Ancestry. >> >> Over the years I have found many errors on other peoples trees though it >> is time consuming check each name you do learn about individuals and can >> ensure the accuracy. >> >> Victor >> >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On 2 January 2014 10:20, Clive Blackaby <[email protected]>wrote: > FH rejects the MARR records attached to an INDI group It does not reject it (unless you have the exclude invalid data set in the preferences), but rather loads it as uncategorised data fields, this means you can use the Change any fact plugin to convert it to a custom individual fact (for example Marriage unknown spouse), prior to sorting out what family the marriage belongs to. -- Jane. Jane Taubman | www.rjt.org.uk | www.taubman.org.uk |www.fhug.org.uk

On 2 January 2014 03:36, Clive Blackaby <[email protected]>wrote: > l.30 - INFO ONLY: Detected & fixed field format error (data moved to Note > Field): "1 RESI Age: 42Relation to Head of House: Prisoner" > (because RESI does not take any qualifying data) > On 2 Jan 2014 07:58:50 Jane Taubman <[email protected]> replied: >FH has fixed this the best it can placing the age and relation information >into a note. If you have a large number of these you could write a plugin >to search the note fields for Age and move the data to the correct field in >the event and if all your RESI events are census you could also update them >to use the Census date again with a plugin. I’ve not yet started exploring the use of plug-ins, but I have succeeded in editing the GEDCOM file using Word, Excel, and Notepad (Also changing RESI to CENS which is my preference): crude and rather tedious, but effective. I was, however, hoping that, as I cannot be the first to hit these snags, someone might have already created a plug-in to save me ‘re-inventing the wheel’ I’m still trying to figure how to correct the other error they make – if anything worse – 0 @[email protected] INDI 1 BIRT 2 DATE 1 Jan 1920 2 PLAC Hoddesdon, Hertfordshire, England 2 SOUR @[email protected] 1 NAME Eric William Thomas /Blackaby/ 1 MARR 2 DATE Jun 1942 2 PLAC Ware, Hertfordshire 1 SEX M 1 FAMC @[email protected] 1 FAMS @[email protected] FH rejects the MARR records attached to an INDI group

Hi Victor I have my tree on Ancestry and I too would like to be able to download and merge into FH. I find all sorts of information on Ancestry and it is automatically included in my online tree and it is a real pain to have to enter it all individually in other programs apart from FTM which automatically syncs with the on-line tree. I don't want to download other peoples trees from Ancestry. Mike Fisher On 02/01/2014 08:09, Victor Markham wrote: > I have copied lots of information from other peoples trees on Ancestry > but never once have I downloaded any. I much prefer to check each > individual name and confirm the accuracy. I also copied photographs from > these trees except census images. It is by far better to download census > images direct from Ancestry. > > Over the years I have found many errors on other peoples trees though it > is time consuming check each name you do learn about individuals and can > ensure the accuracy. > > Victor > >

I'm using FH v.5. How can I add a column in the Records window to show the spouse ? Brent Payne

I have copied lots of information from other peoples trees on Ancestry but never once have I downloaded any. I much prefer to check each individual name and confirm the accuracy. I also copied photographs from these trees except census images. It is by far better to download census images direct from Ancestry. Over the years I have found many errors on other peoples trees though it is time consuming check each name you do learn about individuals and can ensure the accuracy. Victor On 02/01/2014 3:36 AM, Clive Blackaby wrote: > Is there any way of converting the Gedcom files downloaded from Ancestry’s Family Tree program into standard Gedcom format which will load cleanly into Family Historian? > > Although the tree structure is largely correct, a lot of the Events, Attributes and Source Allocations are incorrect (as far as my understanding of Gedcom Standards is concerned) > > For example a Census record from 1901 > > 1 RESI Age: 42Relation to Head of House: Prisoner > 2 DATE 1901 > 2 PLAC St Albans, Hertfordshire, England > 2 SOUR @[email protected] > 3 PAGE Class: RG13; Piece: 1312; Folio: 158; Page: 3 > 3 _APID 1,7814::7664283 > > Bad enough that the Date is incomplete (year only) and the Place is incomplete (Not County Jail, St Albans, etc.), but the records are rejected anyway with this error message > > l.30 - INFO ONLY: Detected & fixed field format error (data moved to Note Field): "1 RESI Age: 42Relation to Head of House: Prisoner" > (because RESI does not take any qualifying data) > > Tried raising this with Ancestry, but their reply was basically very dismissive, Hoping FHUG will be more helpful :) > > Clive > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

If Ancestry is exporting the data incorrectly, I don't think FHU can get them to fix it, how ever On 2 January 2014 03:36, Clive Blackaby <[email protected]>wrote: > l.30 - INFO ONLY: Detected & fixed field format error (data moved to Note > Field): "1 RESI Age: 42Relation to Head of House: Prisoner" > (because RESI does not take any qualifying data) > FH has fixed this the best it can placing the age and relation information into a note. If you have a large number of these you could write a plugin to search the note fields for Age and move the data to the correct field in the event and if all your RESI events are census you could also update them to use the Census date again with a plugin. Personally I would not put County Jail into the PLAC field,but rather into the Address field, it does not help although that Ancestry are not exporting the information at all. -- Jane. Jane Taubman | www.rjt.org.uk | www.taubman.org.uk |www.fhug.org.uk

Is there any way of converting the Gedcom files downloaded from Ancestry’s Family Tree program into standard Gedcom format which will load cleanly into Family Historian? Although the tree structure is largely correct, a lot of the Events, Attributes and Source Allocations are incorrect (as far as my understanding of Gedcom Standards is concerned) For example a Census record from 1901 1 RESI Age: 42Relation to Head of House: Prisoner 2 DATE 1901 2 PLAC St Albans, Hertfordshire, England 2 SOUR @[email protected] 3 PAGE Class: RG13; Piece: 1312; Folio: 158; Page: 3 3 _APID 1,7814::7664283 Bad enough that the Date is incomplete (year only) and the Place is incomplete (Not County Jail, St Albans, etc.), but the records are rejected anyway with this error message l.30 - INFO ONLY: Detected & fixed field format error (data moved to Note Field): "1 RESI Age: 42Relation to Head of House: Prisoner" (because RESI does not take any qualifying data) Tried raising this with Ancestry, but their reply was basically very dismissive, Hoping FHUG will be more helpful :) Clive

This is interesting. I don't however use flags and icons to show that I have text information of records/events. I use icons to indicate that I have the source image linked in. For me the images are my sources. If the icon is not showing that means that I still need to obtain the image even if I already have the date and place. Trevor Rix ------------------------ Trevor said <snippet> - Assign BMD flags as appropriate. - Set BMD icons associated with those flags to display on diagrams. <snippet> Expressions are far superior than Flags because once setup you never need to do anything else. You do not have to keep remembering to set Flags. See the FHUG Knowledge Base that has worked examples along those lines: http://www.fhug.org.uk/wiki/doku.php?id=how_to:using_flags_and_icons_and_expressions Happy New Year, Mike Tate

Trevor said <snippet> - Assign BMD flags as appropriate. - Set BMD icons associated with those flags to display on diagrams. <snippet> Expressions are far superior than Flags because once setup you never need to do anything else. You do not have to keep remembering to set Flags. See the FHUG Knowledge Base that has worked examples along those lines: http://www.fhug.org.uk/wiki/doku.php?id=how_to:using_flags_and_icons_and_expressions Happy New Year, Mike Tate

Never mind, I've solved it: =Text(TextIf(HasFlag(,"Birth cert"),"B",) . TextIf(HasFlag(,"Marriage cert"),"M",) . TextIf(HasFlag(,"Death cert"),"D",)) Martin -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Martin Allen Sent: 01 January 2014 09:14 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [FHU] Individual Records window Mike, Since all my certificates are flagged, I've tried to do this with =TextIf(HasFlag(,"Birth cert"),"B",) But I can't get it to work. One works, but I can't get all three. Any ideas? Martin -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Beryl and Mike Tate Sent: 31 December 2013 18:43 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [FHU] Individual Records window Correction ... the Expression needs to combine each =ExistsText() within a =Text() function: e.g. =Text(ExistsText(%INDI.BIRT.SOUR>%,"B") . ExistsText(%INDI.FAMS>MARR.SOUR%,"M") . ExistsText(%INDI.DEAT.SOUR>%,"D")) Mike Tate ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

It's not the question that you asked, but have you considered this method which I think is better? - Make digital images of your BMD certificates and obtain images of baptisms marriages and burials. - Link those images to the people concerned using whatever method suits you best, so that you can call up those mulitmedia images at will. - Assign BMD flags as appropriate. - Set BMD icons associated with those flags to display on diagrams. When working in Family Historian I usually work in the diagrams, so it's great to be able to see at a glance what BMD evidence I have for each person. Trevor Rix -------- Original Message -------- Subject: FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS Digest, Vol 9, Issue 1 From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Date: 01/01/2014 08:01 > I would like to add a column in the Individual Records window to shown which > BMD certificates I have. I know how to create a new column, but need some > help composing the data reference. I just need it to display any combination > of B M and D in the records window, but I don't want it to show up on the > Reports. Jackie Follett

Mike, Since all my certificates are flagged, I've tried to do this with =TextIf(HasFlag(,"Birth cert"),"B",) But I can't get it to work. One works, but I can't get all three. Any ideas? Martin -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Beryl and Mike Tate Sent: 31 December 2013 18:43 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [FHU] Individual Records window Correction ... the Expression needs to combine each =ExistsText() within a =Text() function: e.g. =Text(ExistsText(%INDI.BIRT.SOUR>%,"B") . ExistsText(%INDI.FAMS>MARR.SOUR%,"M") . ExistsText(%INDI.DEAT.SOUR>%,"D")) Mike Tate

Thank you for your suggestions. The way I store information is as follows: I use certificates as sources for things like dates, occupations, etc, but I do not want to display sources in the Records window. As I am preparing hard copies for family members, I display Record data by Ahnentafel numbers so I can quickly see which names to work on. I want to be able to see which certificates I have, so if there are gaps I can check if one is available. If a BMD code could be displayed against the name, this would make the job much easier, but I don't want it displayed anywhere else. I tried an undated Fact, but this shows up when I publish a report - the same with a Note. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: 01 January 2014 08:01 To: [email protected] Subject: FAMILY-HISTORIAN-USERS Digest, Vol 9, Issue 1 Today's Topics: 1. Individual Records window (JayFollett) 2. Re: Individual Records window (Brian Horridge) 3. Re: Individual Records window (Jane Taubman) 4. Re: Individual Records window (Beryl and Mike Tate) 5. Re: Individual Records window (Beryl and Mike Tate) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2013 11:05:33 -0000 From: "JayFollett" <[email protected]> Subject: [FHU] Individual Records window To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> (added by [email protected]) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I would like to add a column in the Individual Records window to shown which BMD certificates I have. I know how to create a new column, but need some help composing the data reference. I just need it to display any combination of B M and D in the records window, but I don't want it to show up on the Reports. Jackie Follett ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2013 12:28:43 -0000 From: "Brian Horridge" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [FHU] Individual Records window To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Jackie I have created a single Custom attribute which I've called "Certs" and I use the relevant letters B, M, & D to denote Birth, Marriage or Death certificates I have bought/obtained or C, P or X to denote Christening, Parish Marriage or Burial. You can use as many of the above letters as you want in the single field. This means that you only need a single column in the main Records window or a single line on a diagram (or I suppose in a report) to simply show what you got. Brian ----- Original Message ----- From: "JayFollett" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2013 11:05 AM Subject: [FHU] Individual Records window >I would like to add a column in the Individual Records window to shown >which > BMD certificates I have. I know how to create a new column, but need some > help composing the data reference. I just need it to display any > combination > of B M and D in the records window, but I don't want it to show up on the > Reports. Jackie Follett > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2014.0.4259 / Virus Database: 3658/6958 - Release Date: 12/29/13 > ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2013 13:41:22 +0000 From: Jane Taubman <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [FHU] Individual Records window To: family-historian-users <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]om> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On 31 December 2013 11:05, JayFollett <[email protected]> wrote: > I would like to add a column in the Individual Records window to shown > which > BMD certificates I have. In order to use an expression you need to tell us a little more of how you record the information that you have a certificate, do you use a source with a type or certificate or something similar, if so you can check the value of the source type using the contains function. -- Jane. Jane Taubman | www.rjt.org.uk | www.taubman.org.uk |www.fhug.org.uk ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2013 18:31:23 -0000 From: "Beryl and Mike Tate" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [FHU] Individual Records window To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Jackie asked <snippet> I would like to add a column in the Individual Records window to shown which BMD certificates I have. I know how to create a new column, but need some help composing the data reference. I just need it to display any combination of B M and D in the records window, but I don't want it to show up on the Reports. <snippet> See the FHUG Knowledge Base that has worked examples along those lines: http://www.fhug.org.uk/wiki/doku.php?id=how_to:using_flags_and_icons Just use several =ExistsText() functions instead of one =Exists() function. e.g. =ExistsText( %INDI.BIRT.SOUR>% , "B" ) =ExistsText( %INDI.FAMS>MARR.SOUR% , "M" ) =ExistsText( %INDI.DEAT.SOUR>% , "D" ) All entered on one line in the Expression. These check that a Source citation exists for 1st Birth, or 1st Marriage, or 1st Death event. The FHUG gives examples of how to check the Source Type or Source Title and can be extended to check if a Multimedia image is attached (but you may not always have an image for an otherwise fully Sourced event). They all assume that a Certificated Source would always be the 1st citation. The FHUG also shows how to cope with multiple marriages. Happy New Year, Mike Tate ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2013 18:43:14 -0000 From: "Beryl and Mike Tate" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [FHU] Individual Records window To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Correction ... the Expression needs to combine each =ExistsText() within a =Text() function: e.g. =Text(ExistsText(%INDI.BIRT.SOUR>%,"B") . ExistsText(%INDI.FAMS>MARR.SOUR%,"M") . ExistsText(%INDI.DEAT.SOUR>%,"D")) Mike Tate -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Beryl and Mike Tate Sent: 31 December 2013 18:31 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [FHU] Individual Records window Jackie asked <snippet> I would like to add a column in the Individual Records window to shown which BMD certificates I have. I know how to create a new column, but need some help composing the data reference. I just need it to display any combination of B M and D in the records window, but I don't want it to show up on the Reports. <snippet> See the FHUG Knowledge Base that has worked examples along those lines: http://www.fhug.org.uk/wiki/doku.php?id=how_to:using_flags_and_icons Just use several =ExistsText() functions instead of one =Exists() function. e.g. =ExistsText( %INDI.BIRT.SOUR>% , "B" ) =ExistsText( %INDI.FAMS>MARR.SOUR% , "M" ) =ExistsText( %INDI.DEAT.SOUR>% , "D" ) All entered on one line in the Expression. These check that a Source citation exists for 1st Birth, or 1st Marriage, or 1st Death event. The FHUG gives examples of how to check the Source Type or Source Title and can be extended to check if a Multimedia image is attached (but you may not always have an image for an otherwise fully Sourced event). They all assume that a Certificated Source would always be the 1st citation. The FHUG also shows how to cope with multiple marriages. 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Correction ... the Expression needs to combine each =ExistsText() within a =Text() function: e.g. =Text(ExistsText(%INDI.BIRT.SOUR>%,"B") . ExistsText(%INDI.FAMS>MARR.SOUR%,"M") . ExistsText(%INDI.DEAT.SOUR>%,"D")) Mike Tate -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Beryl and Mike Tate Sent: 31 December 2013 18:31 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [FHU] Individual Records window Jackie asked <snippet> I would like to add a column in the Individual Records window to shown which BMD certificates I have. I know how to create a new column, but need some help composing the data reference. I just need it to display any combination of B M and D in the records window, but I don't want it to show up on the Reports. <snippet> See the FHUG Knowledge Base that has worked examples along those lines: http://www.fhug.org.uk/wiki/doku.php?id=how_to:using_flags_and_icons Just use several =ExistsText() functions instead of one =Exists() function. e.g. =ExistsText( %INDI.BIRT.SOUR>% , "B" ) =ExistsText( %INDI.FAMS>MARR.SOUR% , "M" ) =ExistsText( %INDI.DEAT.SOUR>% , "D" ) All entered on one line in the Expression. These check that a Source citation exists for 1st Birth, or 1st Marriage, or 1st Death event. The FHUG gives examples of how to check the Source Type or Source Title and can be extended to check if a Multimedia image is attached (but you may not always have an image for an otherwise fully Sourced event). They all assume that a Certificated Source would always be the 1st citation. The FHUG also shows how to cope with multiple marriages. Happy New Year, Mike Tate ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Jackie asked <snippet> I would like to add a column in the Individual Records window to shown which BMD certificates I have. I know how to create a new column, but need some help composing the data reference. I just need it to display any combination of B M and D in the records window, but I don't want it to show up on the Reports. <snippet> See the FHUG Knowledge Base that has worked examples along those lines: http://www.fhug.org.uk/wiki/doku.php?id=how_to:using_flags_and_icons Just use several =ExistsText() functions instead of one =Exists() function. e.g. =ExistsText( %INDI.BIRT.SOUR>% , "B" ) =ExistsText( %INDI.FAMS>MARR.SOUR% , "M" ) =ExistsText( %INDI.DEAT.SOUR>% , "D" ) All entered on one line in the Expression. These check that a Source citation exists for 1st Birth, or 1st Marriage, or 1st Death event. The FHUG gives examples of how to check the Source Type or Source Title and can be extended to check if a Multimedia image is attached (but you may not always have an image for an otherwise fully Sourced event). They all assume that a Certificated Source would always be the 1st citation. The FHUG also shows how to cope with multiple marriages. Happy New Year, Mike Tate

On 31 December 2013 11:05, JayFollett <[email protected]> wrote: > I would like to add a column in the Individual Records window to shown > which > BMD certificates I have. In order to use an expression you need to tell us a little more of how you record the information that you have a certificate, do you use a source with a type or certificate or something similar, if so you can check the value of the source type using the contains function. -- Jane. Jane Taubman | www.rjt.org.uk | www.taubman.org.uk |www.fhug.org.uk

Jackie I have created a single Custom attribute which I've called "Certs" and I use the relevant letters B, M, & D to denote Birth, Marriage or Death certificates I have bought/obtained or C, P or X to denote Christening, Parish Marriage or Burial. You can use as many of the above letters as you want in the single field. This means that you only need a single column in the main Records window or a single line on a diagram (or I suppose in a report) to simply show what you got. Brian ----- Original Message ----- From: "JayFollett" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2013 11:05 AM Subject: [FHU] Individual Records window >I would like to add a column in the Individual Records window to shown >which > BMD certificates I have. I know how to create a new column, but need some > help composing the data reference. I just need it to display any > combination > of B M and D in the records window, but I don't want it to show up on the > Reports. Jackie Follett > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2014.0.4259 / Virus Database: 3658/6958 - Release Date: 12/29/13 >