Mike, You asked what I found I seemed to find two children, the girl was married but the boy was unattached to anyone. I suspect they had been brother & sister at some stage, same surname, and they appeared to have parents labelled 'unidentified parents' or something similar. They did not show up as orphans in that query so FH must have thought that they were related. I deleted the boy and everything came right. Thank you again, Nev. -----Original Message----- From: Beryl & Mike Tate Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2014 10:59 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [FHU] Custom Query - blank line Nev, The "UDF List" Plugin reports "Uncategorised Data Fields" due to malformed GEDCOM. The "Show Project Statistics" Plugin provides a statistical report but also identifies unusual data entries. There is nothing malformed in the GEDCOM it is just that some data entries are so rare they are worth highlighting. A Family Record with only Children is perfectly valid GEDCOM, and identifies siblings where the parents are unknown, but it is unusual. Similarly, it is valid GEDCOM for an Individual to 'marry' the same Spouse twice, but the Plugin reports it as exceptional. There are many other valid GEDCOM entries that the Plugin lists as exceptional and worthy of review. I would be interested in what you discover. Regards, Mike Tate -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: 05 January 2014 22:15 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [FHU] Custom Query - blank line Mike, Thanks for the reply and I do have Version 5 - so I will get the plug-in and see what I find. I should have added I ran the "Find uncategorised data" tool which found a problem with the GEDCOM but with a 'real' family, and they had 10 children and not 2! We live and learn - I hope! Nev. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Nev, The "UDF List" Plugin reports "Uncategorised Data Fields" due to malformed GEDCOM. The "Show Project Statistics" Plugin provides a statistical report but also identifies unusual data entries. There is nothing malformed in the GEDCOM it is just that some data entries are so rare they are worth highlighting. A Family Record with only Children is perfectly valid GEDCOM, and identifies siblings where the parents are unknown, but it is unusual. Similarly, it is valid GEDCOM for an Individual to 'marry' the same Spouse twice, but the Plugin reports it as exceptional. There are many other valid GEDCOM entries that the Plugin lists as exceptional and worthy of review. I would be interested in what you discover. Regards, Mike Tate -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: 05 January 2014 22:15 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [FHU] Custom Query - blank line Mike, Thanks for the reply and I do have Version 5 - so I will get the plug-in and see what I find. I should have added I ran the "Find uncategorised data" tool which found a problem with the GEDCOM but with a 'real' family, and they had 10 children and not 2! We live and learn - I hope! Nev.

Mike, It worked, problem found, although I cannot understand how it came about, and now deleted ! Thank you again Nev. -----Original Message----- From: Beryl & Mike Tate Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2014 9:15 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [FHU] Custom Query - blank line Nev, if you have FH V5 then run the Plugin "Show Project Statistics" http://www.family-historian.co.uk/pluginstore/plugin-entry?id=281 Among other anomalies it reports every "No Parents Family but with Children" In the final Result Set you can click on reported Item to open the Family Record. You may also discover many other anomalies derived from mistakes in times past. Alternatively, open the Families tab of the Records Window and click on the Family Records column heading while holding the Alt key. Any Family Record "...of (parents not known)" will come to the top. However, this will not discover other anomalies such as "One Parent Family without Children" or invalid Dates. Regards, Mike Tate Nev Ramsden said: I have a useful custom query that returns husband, wife, Number of children, marriage date & marriage place along with a reference number. With one of my GEDCOM files it returns a blank line of info except for a Ref.No. and 2 children I assume this is the result of an incorrect delete in times past. I have run the validate function with no errors found How do I identify this mystery couple so that I can delete the problem? ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Mike, Thanks for the reply and I do have Version 5 - so I will get the plug-in and see what I find. I should have added I ran the "Find uncategorised data" tool which found a problem with the GEDCOM but with a 'real' family, and they had 10 children and not 2! We live and learn - I hope! Nev. -----Original Message----- From: Beryl & Mike Tate Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2014 9:15 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [FHU] Custom Query - blank line Nev, if you have FH V5 then run the Plugin "Show Project Statistics" http://www.family-historian.co.uk/pluginstore/plugin-entry?id=281 Among other anomalies it reports every "No Parents Family but with Children" In the final Result Set you can click on reported Item to open the Family Record. You may also discover many other anomalies derived from mistakes in times past. Alternatively, open the Families tab of the Records Window and click on the Family Records column heading while holding the Alt key. Any Family Record "...of (parents not known)" will come to the top. However, this will not discover other anomalies such as "One Parent Family without Children" or invalid Dates. Regards, Mike Tate Nev Ramsden said: I have a useful custom query that returns husband, wife, Number of children, marriage date & marriage place along with a reference number. With one of my GEDCOM files it returns a blank line of info except for a Ref.No. and 2 children I assume this is the result of an incorrect delete in times past. I have run the validate function with no errors found How do I identify this mystery couple so that I can delete the problem? ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Nev, if you have FH V5 then run the Plugin "Show Project Statistics" http://www.family-historian.co.uk/pluginstore/plugin-entry?id=281 Among other anomalies it reports every "No Parents Family but with Children" In the final Result Set you can click on reported Item to open the Family Record. You may also discover many other anomalies derived from mistakes in times past. Alternatively, open the Families tab of the Records Window and click on the Family Records column heading while holding the Alt key. Any Family Record "...of (parents not known)" will come to the top. However, this will not discover other anomalies such as "One Parent Family without Children" or invalid Dates. Regards, Mike Tate Nev Ramsden said: I have a useful custom query that returns husband, wife, Number of children, marriage date & marriage place along with a reference number. With one of my GEDCOM files it returns a blank line of info except for a Ref.No. and 2 children I assume this is the result of an incorrect delete in times past. I have run the validate function with no errors found How do I identify this mystery couple so that I can delete the problem?

I have a useful custom query that returns husband, wife, Number of children, marriage date & marriage place along with a reference number. With one of my GEDCOM files it returns a blank line of info except for a Ref.No. and 2 children I assume this is the result of an incorrect delete in times past. I have run the validate function with no errors found How do I identify this mystery couple so that I can delete the problem? thank you, Nev.Ramsden

Martin said: <snippet> Sorry, Mike, I've hit another snag. It says PDF not enabled. <snippet> Check the FHUG Knowledge Base regarding this recurrent problem. FHUG > Knowledge Base > Family Historian > Installation Guide > How to (Re-)install Family Historian > Save As PDF File Does Not Work: http://www.fhug.org.uk/wiki/doku.php?id=how_to:reinstall_family_historian#save_as_pdf_file_does_not_work Regards, Mike Tate

Sorry, Mike, I've hit another snag. It says PDF not enabled. Martin -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Beryl & Mike Tate Sent: 05 January 2014 15:19 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [FHU] Wikitree Martin asked: <snippet> I've managed to create exactly what I want in a text box in a diagram. Is there an easy way to export that as text? I've found the difficult way. <snippet> Annoyingly, you don't describe the difficult way you found so this may not be an improvement. (1) use Diagram > Save Diagram As > PDF File (2) open the saved PDF file with a PDF reader such as Adobe Reader or Nitro Reader (3) simply select the text, then right-click and choose copy text (4) paste the text into wherever you want Regards, Mike Tate ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sorry to be annoying :-) Thanks, that is a lot easier. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Beryl & Mike Tate Sent: 05 January 2014 15:19 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [FHU] Wikitree Martin asked: <snippet> I've managed to create exactly what I want in a text box in a diagram. Is there an easy way to export that as text? I've found the difficult way. <snippet> Annoyingly, you don't describe the difficult way you found so this may not be an improvement. (1) use Diagram > Save Diagram As > PDF File (2) open the saved PDF file with a PDF reader such as Adobe Reader or Nitro Reader (3) simply select the text, then right-click and choose copy text (4) paste the text into wherever you want Regards, Mike Tate ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Martin asked: <snippet> I've managed to create exactly what I want in a text box in a diagram. Is there an easy way to export that as text? I've found the difficult way. <snippet> Annoyingly, you don't describe the difficult way you found so this may not be an improvement. (1) use Diagram > Save Diagram As > PDF File (2) open the saved PDF file with a PDF reader such as Adobe Reader or Nitro Reader (3) simply select the text, then right-click and choose copy text (4) paste the text into wherever you want Regards, Mike Tate

Sorry. My typing! GEDCOM You don't need to change. But if you want to put profiles on Wikitree, it is preferable to use something which is recognised worldwide. Next thing someone might have a solution to: I've managed to create exactly what I want in a text box in a diagram. Is there an easy way to export that as text? I've found the difficult way. Martin -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Paddy Buckley Sent: 05 January 2014 10:07 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [FHU] Wikitree As I sometimes use Chapman codes in some of my FH Projects, why should I need to replace the codes if I ever need to export them as gedcom files? What is gedcopm? Google didn't know the term. Paddy -----Original Message----- From: Martin Allen Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2014 9:10 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [FHU] Wikitree Yes, I tried that initially with 100 or so. The resulting mess took 3 months to clean up. I'm now entering by hand, but it speeds things up if I can just copy and paste a biography of essential information and sources. I started with a Word template, which works OK, but still takes a long time. Apart from all the junk, I had the problem that I use Chapman codes and they all had to be replaced. Most of the problem profiles on Wikitree are the result of GEDCOPM uploads which are just dumped when people realise the work involved in the cleanup. I don't know anyone except beginners who still uses that method. Wikitree advises strongly against large GEDCOM uploads, but even a small one is not easy. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

As I sometimes use Chapman codes in some of my FH Projects, why should I need to replace the codes if I ever need to export them as gedcom files? What is gedcopm? Google didn't know the term. Paddy -----Original Message----- From: Martin Allen Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2014 9:10 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [FHU] Wikitree Yes, I tried that initially with 100 or so. The resulting mess took 3 months to clean up. I'm now entering by hand, but it speeds things up if I can just copy and paste a biography of essential information and sources. I started with a Word template, which works OK, but still takes a long time. Apart from all the junk, I had the problem that I use Chapman codes and they all had to be replaced. Most of the problem profiles on Wikitree are the result of GEDCOPM uploads which are just dumped when people realise the work involved in the cleanup. I don't know anyone except beginners who still uses that method. Wikitree advises strongly against large GEDCOM uploads, but even a small one is not easy.

Yes, I tried that initially with 100 or so. The resulting mess took 3 months to clean up. I'm now entering by hand, but it speeds things up if I can just copy and paste a biography of essential information and sources. I started with a Word template, which works OK, but still takes a long time. Apart from all the junk, I had the problem that I use Chapman codes and they all had to be replaced. Most of the problem profiles on Wikitree are the result of GEDCOPM uploads which are just dumped when people realise the work involved in the cleanup. I don't know anyone except beginners who still uses that method. Wikitree advises strongly against large GEDCOM uploads, but even a small one is not easy. Anyway, I'm getting there now. Thanks for the help. Martin -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Beryl & Mike Tate Sent: 05 January 2014 00:03 To: [email protected] Subject: [FHU] Wikitree Martin, What sort of 'stuff' are you trying to put into Wikitree? Did you know that Wikitree accepts GEDCOM? You can export almost any subset of data from FH as a GEDCOM. Then you can 'upload' or 'import' the GEDCOM to Wikitree and it is important you understand the difference. See http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/How_to_use_WikiTree especially the sections mentioning GEDCOM. This guide is obtained by scrolling right to the bottom of any Wikitree page and clicking Help. Regards, Mike Tate -----Original Message----- From: [email protected]om [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Martin Allen Sent: 04 January 2014 21:32 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [FHU] Family tree web site Thanks Mike. I'll have to work what I want in a diagram text box then. I'm trying to find a time saving way of putting stuff into Wikitree. Martin Martin asked: <snippet> In the following example of a query column expression: =Text(%INDI.FAMS>CHIL>NAME:FIRST% . " " . %INDI.FAMS>CHIL>BIRT.DATE%) Is it possible to replace the " " with a carriage return so that the second expression appears on a new line? <snippet> No Martin, I'm afraid not - all text in Result Set rows is always on one line. Even multi-line text fields such as in 'Note' or 'Text From Source' are displayed in Query Columns all on one line. Regards, Mike Tate ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Martin, What sort of 'stuff' are you trying to put into Wikitree? Did you know that Wikitree accepts GEDCOM? You can export almost any subset of data from FH as a GEDCOM. Then you can 'upload' or 'import' the GEDCOM to Wikitree and it is important you understand the difference. See http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/How_to_use_WikiTree especially the sections mentioning GEDCOM. This guide is obtained by scrolling right to the bottom of any Wikitree page and clicking Help. Regards, Mike Tate -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Martin Allen Sent: 04 January 2014 21:32 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [FHU] Family tree web site Thanks Mike. I'll have to work what I want in a diagram text box then. I'm trying to find a time saving way of putting stuff into Wikitree. Martin Martin asked: <snippet> In the following example of a query column expression: =Text(%INDI.FAMS>CHIL>NAME:FIRST% . " " . %INDI.FAMS>CHIL>BIRT.DATE%) Is it possible to replace the " " with a carriage return so that the second expression appears on a new line? <snippet> No Martin, I'm afraid not - all text in Result Set rows is always on one line. Even multi-line text fields such as in 'Note' or 'Text From Source' are displayed in Query Columns all on one line. Regards, Mike Tate

Thanks Mike. I'll have to work what I want in a diagram text box then. I'm trying to find a time saving way of putting stuff into Wikitree. Martin -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Beryl & Mike Tate Sent: 04 January 2014 19:27 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [FHU] Family tree web site Martin asked: <snippet> In the following example of a query column expression: =Text(%INDI.FAMS>CHIL>NAME:FIRST% . " " . %INDI.FAMS>CHIL>BIRT.DATE%) Is it possible to replace the " " with a carriage return so that the second expression appears on a new line? <snippet> No Martin, I'm afraid not - all text in Result Set rows is always on one line. Even multi-line text fields such as in 'Note' or 'Text From Source' are displayed in Query Columns all on one line. Regards, Mike Tate ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Martin asked: <snippet> In the following example of a query column expression: =Text(%INDI.FAMS>CHIL>NAME:FIRST% . " " . %INDI.FAMS>CHIL>BIRT.DATE%) Is it possible to replace the " " with a carriage return so that the second expression appears on a new line? <snippet> No Martin, I'm afraid not - all text in Result Set rows is always on one line. Even multi-line text fields such as in 'Note' or 'Text From Source' are displayed in Query Columns all on one line. Regards, Mike Tate

In the following example of a query column expression: =Text(%INDI.FAMS>CHIL>NAME:FIRST% . " " . %INDI.FAMS>CHIL>BIRT.DATE%) Is it possible to replace the " " with a carriage return so that the second excpression appears on a new line? Martin

I am doing a project for someone else. One person, X, had a long-term liaison with another person, Y, (both were married) and there was a child and further descendants from this liaison. I have been asked because of sensitivities to remove all references to this liaison so I have deleted all the individual records for Y and her descendants. However on the diagram X is still shown with two boxes for the two partners. One is his wife and the other is where the other partner Y would have been. This latter box is blank and on the Record Properties it says that there is no record selection. Is it not possible to get rid of this blank box which now does not represent anybody? I am warned that if I delete it I would be deleting the entire tree. (I know I can hide it but that is not what I want to do. And I know that what I am doing is not good practice genealogically speaking!) Diana

Correction: Individuals excluded by using 'Private' flag have NO details and are replaced by '(unknown)' against their Spouse. Individuals not selected at Step 2 have only have their Name and life dates and perhaps photos if Step 3 chooses Primary Page Type as Individual Summary Report. But if they are married and Step 3 chooses Primary Page Type as Family Group Sheet then full details are included on the Family Group Sheet. So you need to omit spouses too. Mike Tate -----Original Message----- From: Beryl & Mike Tate [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 03 January 2014 15:08 To: '[email protected]' Subject: RE: [FHU] Family tree web site John asked: <snippet> I'm using FH 4.1.3. I have several individuals marked as "hidden" in my tree diagrams, and this works fine for pdf diagrams. How do I mark people as "hidden" when generating a web site? The web site generation process tells me how many hidden people are being skipped, but they still appear on the site. <snippet> I do not recall the Create a Website dialogue ever report hidden people being skipped. It only reports omitting Individuals with the record flag 'Private', and that is one way of hiding such people. Another way to omit Individuals from the web site is in Step 2 - Select Featured Individuals. You simply leave them out of the selection process instead of using 'Select All'. However, omitted Individuals may still get mentioned as relations of Featured Individuals, but with few details (just name and life dates I think). Regards, Mike Tate

John asked: <snippet> I'm using FH 4.1.3. I have several individuals marked as "hidden" in my tree diagrams, and this works fine for pdf diagrams. How do I mark people as "hidden" when generating a web site? The web site generation process tells me how many hidden people are being skipped, but they still appear on the site. <snippet> I do not recall the Create a Website dialogue ever report hidden people being skipped. It only reports omitting Individuals with the record flag 'Private', and that is one way of hiding such people. Another way to omit Individuals from the web site is in Step 2 - Select Featured Individuals. You simply leave them out of the selection process instead of using 'Select All'. However, omitted Individuals may still get mentioned as relations of Featured Individuals, but with few details (just name and life dates I think). Regards, Mike Tate