Jackie said: <snippet> I know there has been some discussion regarding this, but I use christening for a baby or child, but sometimes you get an adult being 'baptised' (say before they marry, which was quite common), so that is when I show the difference. <snippet> There is the Standard GEDCOM Event "Christening (adult)" intended for that very purpose. Regards, Mike Tate

I know there has been some discussion regarding this, but I use christening for a baby or child, but sometimes you get an adult being 'baptised' (say before they marry, which was quite common), so that is when I show the difference. Jackie Cotterill General Secretary BMSGH Tel: 01562 743912 Email: [email protected] www.bmsgh.org --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com

Just in case you haven't realised, you can opt to use a christening fact in Ancestral Sources under Tools->Options->Baptism Options. Just tick 'Use Christening fact instead'. Best wishes Nick -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Steve Symes Sent: 09 January 2014 13:23 To: [email protected] Subject: [FHU] Baptism v Christening revisited Hi all I remember a discussion a while back re the merits of using Christening or Baptism -  without wishing to open that all up again, just to say that at the time I plumped for Christening and I remember a useful utility to convert one to the other - however now that I have been using Ancestral Sources to add Baptisms, that is what they are!  So I now have a mix of Christenings and Baptisms again! So my questions are:  1. Can someone remind me what that utility was called, again? & 2. are there any issues if I convert an AS generated Baptism to a Christening? Will the media links be retained etc? Thank you   Regards Steve

I installed and run Mike’s Plugin Backup and Restore Family Historian Settings, it worked seamlessly. Many thanks to Jane and Mike for your support, you are both great. Kind Regards John On 7 Jan 2014, at 19:55, John Payne <[email protected]> wrote: > Thank you Jane and Mike for your prompt reply, I will give Mike’s Plugin a go, what has made me so hesitant to go for the plugin is that I have had some real problems recently since upgrading to Windows 8.1. with Parallels Desktop 9 on my MacBookPro, it took 3 Parallels Support Engineers a total of 9 hours by remote sessions to sort the problem out, fortunately they covered the full cost, I am now running Windows 8.1 like Windows 7 style, but with one click can revert back to standard Windows 8.1. having installed from StarDock, Stat8 and ModernMix which I am very pleased with. > > I will let you know how I get on, hope to do it tomorrow. > > Best wishes > > John Payne > > > On 7 Jan 2014, at 16:12, Beryl & Mike Tate <[email protected]> wrote: > >> John, >> Please see the FHUG Knowledge Base > Family Historian > Installation Guide: >> http://www.fhug.org.uk/wiki/doku.php?id=how_to:index#installation_guide >> This discusses what is in the C:\ProgramData\Calico Pie\ folder. >> >> DO NOT EVER TOUCH ANY FILES IN THE C:\Program Files(x86)\ folder. >> These are the installation files and settings for Family Historian. >> >> There are Family Historian files and settings in more places than I suspect you realise. >> However, NONE of them can be relocated, but many can be exported to the Project's Public folder. >> See the FHUG Knowledge Base > Family Historian > Understanding the Scope of Features: >> http://www.fhug.org.uk/wiki/doku.php?id=how_to:understanding_scope_of_features >> >> What I advise is that you use the Plugin "Backup and Restore Family Historian Settings". >> This saves a copy of all the above settings in your Project folder for ease of backup and restore. >> >> Regards, Mike Tate >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of John Payne >> Sent: 07 January 2014 15:52 >> To: Family Historian >> Subject: [FHU] Transferring Project settings >> >> I have recently updated from XP to Windows 8.1, I have installed Family Historian in C Program Files (x86) and installed my full >> Project in the Document Folder, my object is to tidy up so that all sub folders are located within a sub folder, possibly the Public >> folder in the Project folder, for instance within the Family Historian C Program folder I have the following folders Program, Fact >> Types, Property Box, etc, also individual Gedcoms and files relating to Family Historian. >> Can perhaps Mike advise me if this is feasible. >> I appreciate that the introduction of creating a Project was a great step forward, but separating the locations makes editing less >> straightforward. >> >> John Payne >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

You are probably thinking of Mike Tate's plugin 'Chang any Fact Tab'. (Assuming you have V5 and can use plugins.) The Christening-to-Baptism and Baptism-to-Christening changes are on pre-defined buttons as they are the most commonly required changes. I don't think there will be any problems resulting from changing AS-generated baptisms to christenings, but you might want to consider making the change the other way, so that all your christening events become baptisms. Then if you continue to use AS for baptisms in the future you won't have to remember to keep running the plugin to change the events to christenings afterwards. Lorna On 09/01/2014 13:23, Steve Symes wrote: > Hi all > > I remember a discussion a while back re the merits of using Christening or Baptism - without wishing to open that all up again, just to say that at the time I plumped for Christening and I remember a useful utility to convert one to the other - however now that I have been using Ancestral Sources to add Baptisms, that is what they are! So I now have a mix of Christenings and Baptisms again! > > So my questions are: 1. Can someone remind me what that utility was called, again?& 2. are there any issues if I convert an AS generated Baptism to a Christening? Will the media links be retained etc? > >

Hi all I remember a discussion a while back re the merits of using Christening or Baptism -  without wishing to open that all up again, just to say that at the time I plumped for Christening and I remember a useful utility to convert one to the other - however now that I have been using Ancestral Sources to add Baptisms, that is what they are!  So I now have a mix of Christenings and Baptisms again! So my questions are:  1. Can someone remind me what that utility was called, again? & 2. are there any issues if I convert an AS generated Baptism to a Christening? Will the media links be retained etc? Thank you   Regards Steve

I backed up my entire file to a zip drive. When I open the zip drive, there are no multi media files (over 1000) Help.

On 8 January 2014 10:06, diana <[email protected]> wrote: > I don’t know why my message took so long in reaching the FHU Digest. I sent > another repeat message on 6 February which I am afraid will appear in due > course. > Because you keep sending your messages on a email mail address which is not subscribed and I have to manually release them. It's important to ensure the email address you receive the list on is exactly the same one as you send messages on. -- Jane. Jane Taubman | www.rjt.org.uk | www.taubman.org.uk |www.fhug.org.uk

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Mike Many thanks – it is so easy when you know how! I don’t know why my message took so long in reaching the FHU Digest. I sent another repeat message on 6 February which I am afraid will appear in due course. Best wishes Diana

Mike, It is a pity you did not use the Plugin "Backup and Restore Family Historian Settings" as that copies all your icons and every other setting into your Project folder. That would then have transferred to the new PC. If there is any possibility of getting files off the old Win 7 PC then that would be one option. NEVER TOUCH ANY FILES IN the C:\ProgramFiles(x86)\Family Historian\ folder. These are the installation files and settings with grave consequences if upset. C:\ProgramData\Calico Pie\Family Historian\Icons\ is where your icons should reside. That FH folder is also the location of many other customisations for Diagrams, Queries, Reports, Plugins, etc. If there is any way you can retrieve the C:\ProgramData\Calico Pie\Family Historian\ folder from the old PC then that will resolve most issues. There is a great deal of advice on the FHUG website http://www.fhug.org.uk/ regarding where FH stores settings, how to backup that crucial data, and move it to a new PC. Regards, Mike Tate -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mike Adger Sent: 08 January 2014 00:02 To: [email protected] Subject: [FHU] Missing Icons for record flags I have been using small icons on my charts to denote that I have a copy of the relevant documentation for each individual in the form of a national flag plus characters to denote the type, e.g. B, M, M2 D for BMD entries, and 41, 51 etc for census entries. The icons are sized at 250dpi so that they are quite small, as some individuals could have 6+ icons displayed along the bottom edge of their 'box'. I can then easily see where there might be missing supporting evidence. Following an enforced upgrade to Win8.1, my FH project transferred successfully, other than the icons - the Icons folder for some reason had not been backed up. I took Jane's advice and re-created these in the diagram/options/box/add condition process, and selected the right icon for each condition, resized it to 250 dpi and all seemed ok. However, it is misbehaving, as about half of the icons/flags operate correctly, and can be selected from the drop down list which appears when you right click on an individual's record and select 'set flag' - however the other half do not appear in the drop-down list, and even if I manage to force it, it refuses to be downsized to 250 dpi and instead appears on the chart in 'native' size - about the same as the box! There seems to be some corruption somewhere. It may be associated with confusion in my own mind about where the Icons folder is meant to be stored - is it under C\ProgramFiles(x86)\Family Historian\Icons or C\ProgramData\Calico Pie\Family Historian\Icons ? There was a bit of a scramble trying to get things off a dying Win7 laptop and/or from a big back-up drive which usefully encrypts filenames! Any guidance you could give me would be greatly welcomed as I like my little icons!. I am running FH v5 by the way Mike Adger, MA (Cantab) MBA MAPM

I have been using small icons on my charts to denote that I have a copy of the relevant documentation for each individual in the form of a national flag plus characters to denote the type, e.g. B, M, M2 D for BMD entries, and 41, 51 etc for census entries. The icons are sized at 250dpi so that they are quite small, as some individuals could have 6+ icons displayed along the bottom edge of their 'box'. I can then easily see where there might be missing supporting evidence. Following an enforced upgrade to Win8.1, my FH project transferred successfully, other than the icons - the Icons folder for some reason had not been backed up. I took Jane's advice and re-created these in the diagram/options/box/add condition process, and selected the right icon for each condition, resized it to 250 dpi and all seemed ok. However, it is misbehaving, as about half of the icons/flags operate correctly, and can be selected from the drop down list which appears when you right click on an individual's record and select 'set flag' - however the other half do not appear in the drop-down list, and even if I manage to force it, it refuses to be downsized to 250 dpi and instead appears on the chart in 'native' size - about the same as the box! There seems to be some corruption somewhere. It may be associated with confusion in my own mind about where the Icons folder is meant to be stored - is it under C\ProgramFiles(x86)\Family Historian\Icons or C\ProgramData\Calico Pie\Family Historian\Icons ? There was a bit of a scramble trying to get things off a dying Win7 laptop and/or from a big back-up drive which usefully encrypts filenames! Any guidance you could give me would be greatly welcomed as I like my little icons!. I am running FH v5 by the way Regards Mike Adger, MA (Cantab) MBA MAPM Sunnyside Cottage, Tothill, NEWBURY, Berks, RG20 9ED. Home: 01635 278271 Mobile: 07867 822824 Work: 0843 354 0100

Thank you Jane and Mike for your prompt reply, I will give Mike’s Plugin a go, what has made me so hesitant to go for the plugin is that I have had some real problems recently since upgrading to Windows 8.1. with Parallels Desktop 9 on my MacBookPro, it took 3 Parallels Support Engineers a total of 9 hours by remote sessions to sort the problem out, fortunately they covered the full cost, I am now running Windows 8.1 like Windows 7 style, but with one click can revert back to standard Windows 8.1. having installed from StarDock, Stat8 and ModernMix which I am very pleased with. I will let you know how I get on, hope to do it tomorrow. Best wishes John Payne On 7 Jan 2014, at 16:12, Beryl & Mike Tate <[email protected]> wrote: > John, > Please see the FHUG Knowledge Base > Family Historian > Installation Guide: > http://www.fhug.org.uk/wiki/doku.php?id=how_to:index#installation_guide > This discusses what is in the C:\ProgramData\Calico Pie\ folder. > > DO NOT EVER TOUCH ANY FILES IN THE C:\Program Files(x86)\ folder. > These are the installation files and settings for Family Historian. > > There are Family Historian files and settings in more places than I suspect you realise. > However, NONE of them can be relocated, but many can be exported to the Project's Public folder. > See the FHUG Knowledge Base > Family Historian > Understanding the Scope of Features: > http://www.fhug.org.uk/wiki/doku.php?id=how_to:understanding_scope_of_features > > What I advise is that you use the Plugin "Backup and Restore Family Historian Settings". > This saves a copy of all the above settings in your Project folder for ease of backup and restore. > > Regards, Mike Tate > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of John Payne > Sent: 07 January 2014 15:52 > To: Family Historian > Subject: [FHU] Transferring Project settings > > I have recently updated from XP to Windows 8.1, I have installed Family Historian in C Program Files (x86) and installed my full > Project in the Document Folder, my object is to tidy up so that all sub folders are located within a sub folder, possibly the Public > folder in the Project folder, for instance within the Family Historian C Program folder I have the following folders Program, Fact > Types, Property Box, etc, also individual Gedcoms and files relating to Family Historian. > Can perhaps Mike advise me if this is feasible. > I appreciate that the introduction of creating a Project was a great step forward, but separating the locations makes editing less > straightforward. > > John Payne > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Diana, You need to delete the Family Record that linked X to Y. In the Records Window open the Families tab. If not shown then use View > Record Lists > Families. Search the records for an entry for "...of X" by entering X in the Husband box at the top. If you expand this record it should only link to the Husband X. Then delete this Record by pressing the Delete key on your keyboard. Regards, Mike Tate -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of diana Sent: 04 January 2014 16:48 To: [email protected] Subject: [FHU] Deleting a blank box I am doing a project for someone else. One person, X, had a long-term liaison with another person, Y, (both were married) and there was a child and further descendants from this liaison. I have been asked because of sensitivities to remove all references to this liaison so I have deleted all the individual records for Y and her descendants. However on the diagram X is still shown with two boxes for the two partners. One is his wife and the other is where the other partner Y would have been. This latter box is blank and on the Record Properties it says that there is no record selection. Is it not possible to get rid of this blank box which now does not represent anybody? I am warned that if I delete it I would be deleting the entire tree. (I know I can hide it but that is not what I want to do. And I know that what I am doing is not good practice genealogically speaking!) Diana

John, Please see the FHUG Knowledge Base > Family Historian > Installation Guide: http://www.fhug.org.uk/wiki/doku.php?id=how_to:index#installation_guide This discusses what is in the C:\ProgramData\Calico Pie\ folder. DO NOT EVER TOUCH ANY FILES IN THE C:\Program Files(x86)\ folder. These are the installation files and settings for Family Historian. There are Family Historian files and settings in more places than I suspect you realise. However, NONE of them can be relocated, but many can be exported to the Project's Public folder. See the FHUG Knowledge Base > Family Historian > Understanding the Scope of Features: http://www.fhug.org.uk/wiki/doku.php?id=how_to:understanding_scope_of_features What I advise is that you use the Plugin "Backup and Restore Family Historian Settings". This saves a copy of all the above settings in your Project folder for ease of backup and restore. Regards, Mike Tate -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of John Payne Sent: 07 January 2014 15:52 To: Family Historian Subject: [FHU] Transferring Project settings I have recently updated from XP to Windows 8.1, I have installed Family Historian in C Program Files (x86) and installed my full Project in the Document Folder, my object is to tidy up so that all sub folders are located within a sub folder, possibly the Public folder in the Project folder, for instance within the Family Historian C Program folder I have the following folders Program, Fact Types, Property Box, etc, also individual Gedcoms and files relating to Family Historian. Can perhaps Mike advise me if this is feasible. I appreciate that the introduction of creating a Project was a great step forward, but separating the locations makes editing less straightforward. John Payne

On 7 January 2014 15:52, John Payne <[email protected]> wrote: > I have the following folders Program, Fact Types, Property Box, etc, also > individual Gedcoms and files relating to Family Historian. For settings it's easier to use Mike's excellent backup and restore plugin. If you want to move the locations of the Settings folders you can do this on NTFS formatted PC's using symbolic links. http://www.fhug.org.uk/wiki/doku.php?id=fhugdownloads:contents:link_shell_extension It's a bit advanced in PC terms, but works well for me to keep my custom plugins, text schemes etc in my Dropbox to allow them to be used on both PCs What I also have is a folder above Family Historian Projects which is Family History which contains not only the FHP folder, but also miscellaneous other Family History related files. -- Jane. Jane Taubman | www.rjt.org.uk | www.taubman.org.uk |www.fhug.org.uk

I have recently updated from XP to Windows 8.1, I have installed Family Historian in C Program Files (x86) and installed my full Project in the Document Folder, my object is to tidy up so that all sub folders are located within a sub folder, possibly the Public folder in the Project folder, for instance within the Family Historian C Program folder I have the following folders Program, Fact Types, Property Box, etc, also individual Gedcoms and files relating to Family Historian. Can perhaps Mike advise me if this is feasible. I appreciate that the introduction of creating a Project was a great step forward, but separating the locations makes editing less straightforward. John Payne

Mike, The only other errors were such as 'couples' with only the mans name available - all to be expected. best wishes to yourself, Nev -----Original Message----- From: Beryl & Mike Tate Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2014 11:26 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [FHU] Custom Query - blank line That is OK, but did the Plugin reveal anything else unusual? -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: 05 January 2014 23:23 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [FHU] Custom Query - blank line Mike, You asked what I found I seemed to find two children, the girl was married but the boy was unattached to anyone. I suspect they had been brother & sister at some stage, same surname, and they appeared to have parents labelled 'unidentified parents' or something similar. They did not show up as orphans in that query so FH must have thought that they were related. I deleted the boy and everything came right. Thank you again, Nev.

Thanks Mike. Rerun of the latest update worked. Martin -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Beryl & Mike Tate Sent: 05 January 2014 17:18 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [FHU] Wikitree Martin said: <snippet> Sorry, Mike, I've hit another snag. It says PDF not enabled. <snippet> Check the FHUG Knowledge Base regarding this recurrent problem. FHUG > Knowledge Base > Family Historian > Installation Guide > How to (Re-)install Family Historian > Save As PDF File Does Not Work: http://www.fhug.org.uk/wiki/doku.php?id=how_to:reinstall_family_historian#sa ve_as_pdf_file_does_not_work Regards, Mike Tate ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

That is OK, but did the Plugin reveal anything else unusual? -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: 05 January 2014 23:23 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [FHU] Custom Query - blank line Mike, You asked what I found I seemed to find two children, the girl was married but the boy was unattached to anyone. I suspect they had been brother & sister at some stage, same surname, and they appeared to have parents labelled 'unidentified parents' or something similar. They did not show up as orphans in that query so FH must have thought that they were related. I deleted the boy and everything came right. Thank you again, Nev. -----Original Message----- From: Beryl & Mike Tate Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2014 10:59 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [FHU] Custom Query - blank line Nev, The "UDF List" Plugin reports "Uncategorised Data Fields" due to malformed GEDCOM. The "Show Project Statistics" Plugin provides a statistical report but also identifies unusual data entries. There is nothing malformed in the GEDCOM it is just that some data entries are so rare they are worth highlighting. A Family Record with only Children is perfectly valid GEDCOM, and identifies siblings where the parents are unknown, but it is unusual. Similarly, it is valid GEDCOM for an Individual to 'marry' the same Spouse twice, but the Plugin reports it as exceptional. There are many other valid GEDCOM entries that the Plugin lists as exceptional and worthy of review. I would be interested in what you discover. Regards, Mike Tate -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: 05 January 2014 22:15 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [FHU] Custom Query - blank line Mike, Thanks for the reply and I do have Version 5 - so I will get the plug-in and see what I find. I should have added I ran the "Find uncategorised data" tool which found a problem with the GEDCOM but with a 'real' family, and they had 10 children and not 2! We live and learn - I hope! Nev. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message