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    1. [FAAS] Fahs / Newton Twp area, PA
    2. LaCoe
    3. Looking for information on the FAHS family of Newton Township, Lackawanna County, PA. Also Falls Township and Brinktown also known as Square Top, Wyoming Co., PA Surnames include: Fahs, Fauldenhaust, Ayers, Rozelle, Baker, Beck, Winter / Winters, Griffin, Bardwell, Collum, Barnum Any help would be appreciated Susan 1. Henry Fahs, b. ca. 1813 in Germany, d. 11 March 1892, Lackawanna County Estate No. # 2432 11 March 1892 Spouse: Minnie ?, b. ca. 1825 in Germany Married. Children and grandchildren: 1 2. Christian H. Fahs, b. 1842 in Germany, m. Dora Fauldenhaust, 1870 in Germany, d. 13 October 1930 in Newton Twp., PA, buried 15 October 1930 in Newton Cemetery; 7 grandchildren 2 10. Dora Fahs, b. 1865 in Germany, m. Lewis B. Ayers Jr., 1883, d. 1919, buried in Newton Cemetery; 2 grandchildren  2. Christian H. Fahs, b. 1842 in Germany, d. 13 October 1930 in Newton Twp., PA, buried 15 October 1930 in Newton Cemetery Spouse: Dora Fauldenhaust, b. 1844, d. 1926, buried 13 January 1926 in Newton Cemetery Married 1870 in Germany. Children and grandchildren: 1 3. Charles H. Fahs, b. 1870 in Germany, m. Effie A. Rozelle, 1899, d. 5 October 1908, buried in Sonsky Family Cemetery; 6 grandchildren 2 4. Minnie Lena Fahs, b. 1872 in Germany, m. Charles H. Baker, 24 June 1904 in Schultzville, PA, d. 4 October 1937, buried in Newton Cemetery, no children 3 5. Dora W. Fahs, b. 1875 in PA, m. George A. Beck, 1894, d. 1957, buried 14 August 1957 in Newton Cemetery; 10 grandchildren 4 6. Mary C. Fahs, b. 1877 in Schultzville, PA, m. Wesley Aloise Winter, 1899 in Lackawanna Co., PA, m. Stanley R. Griffin, aft. 1907, d. 1964, buried 30 May 1964 in Newton Cemetery; 5 grandchildren 5 7. Fred Fahs, b. aft. 1880?, d. bef. 1900 burial unknown 6 8. Nellie Mae Fahs, b. 1885, m. Harry Bainbridge Winters, Sr., 22 June 1904, d. 1988, buried 15 April 1988 in Newton Cemetery; 9 grandchildren 7 9. John Robert Fahs, b. 25 October 1888 in Newton Twp., PA, m. Helen Bardwell, d. February 1974 in Liverpool, NY, buried in probably Sunnyside Cemetery, Tunkhannock, PA  3. Charles H. Fahs, b. 1870 in Germany, d. 5 October 1908, buried in Sonsky Family Cemetery Spouse: Effie A. Rozelle, b. 1876, m. Frank A. Whitlock, 1914, d. 1955, buried in Newton Cemetery Married 1899. Children and grandchildren: 1 Sarah Fahs, b. 1899, m. James DeWitt/Dwight Werkheiser, d. 1971, buried in Newton Cemetery 2 Lena M. Fahs, b. 1901, m. William C. Veety, d. 1973, buried 18 June 1973 in Newton Cemetery 3 Helen D. Fahs, b. ca. 1903, m. Cecil Wall; 2 grandchildren burial unknown 4 Claude E. Fahs, b. 5 July 1904, d. 10 September 1904, buried in Sonsky Family Cemetery 5 Carmeta E. Fahs, b. 1905, m. Edward H. Veety, m. William J. Ludlow, aft. 1961, m. Basil H. Nichols, aft. 1967, d. August 1984 in Falls, PA, buried 27 August 1984 in Newton Cemetery 6 Myrtle B. Fahs, b. 8 August 1907 in Newton Twp., PA, m. Charles Reynolds, m. Roy Russell, aft. 1968, d. 5 May 2005 in Windsorwoods Nursing Facility, Hudson, FL, buried 10 May 2005 in Abington Hills Cemetery, South Abington Twp., PA; 2 grandchildren  4. Minnie Lena Fahs, b. 1872 in Germany, d. 4 October 1937, buried in Newton Cemetery Spouse: Charles H. Baker, b. October 1870 in Newton Twp., PA Married 24 June 1904 in Schultzville, PA.  5. Dora W. Fahs, b. 1875 in PA, d. 1957, buried 14 August 1957 in Newton Cemetery Spouse: George A. Beck, b. 1866, m. Eva M. Dersheimer, d. 1931/2, buried 19 March 1931 in Newton Cemetery, stone says 1932, burial records say 1931 1931/2 Married 1894. Children and grandchildren: 1 George Beck, b. 1897, d. bef. 1910 2 Lloyd Beck, b. 1898 3 Leah Beck, b. 1900, m. Draper Shaffer 4 Norma Beck, b. 1902, m. Christopher LaCoe, 1927, d. 1996; 4 grandchildren 5 Carl Beck, b. 1905, m. Myrtle J. ?, d. 2004, buried 7 January 2004 in Newton Cemetery 6 Jessie Beck, b. 1905, m. Hodgson Walker; 1 grandchild 7 Earl J. Beck, b. 1910, d. 1970, buried 11 February 1970 in Newton Cemetery 8 Della Beck, b. 20 January 1913, d. 31 May 2001, Never married, buried 4 June 2001 in Newton Cemetery 9 Ralph Allen Beck, b. 27 June 1915, m. Louella May Cosner, 27 June 1915, d. 14 August 1994; 4 grandchildren 10 Albert G. Beck, b. 21 August 1917 in Newton Twp., PA, d. 15 September 2005 in Newton Twp., PA, Never Married, buried 19 September 2005 in Newton Cemetery  6. Mary C. Fahs, b. 1877 in Schultzville, PA, d. 1964, buried 30 May 1964 in Newton Cemetery Spouse: Wesley Aloise Winter, b. 1875 in Milwakee, PA, d. 1949 Married 1899 in Lackawanna Co., PA. Children and grandchildren: 1 Gertrude May Winter, b. 1900, m. Harry Amos Dailey, m. George Basil Leonard, d. 1979 2 Stella Winter, b. 1902 3 Dorothy Winter, b. 1907 Spouse: Stanley R. Griffin, b. 1890, d. 1957, buried 28 October 1957 in Newton Cemetery Married aft. 1907. Children and grandchildren: 1 Florence M. Griffin, b. 1918, d. 1933/83, buried in Newton Cemetery 2 Mary Griffin (2), b. 1920, d. 2001, buried in Newton Cemetery  7. Fred Fahs, b. aft. 1880?, d. bef. 1900  8. Nellie Mae Fahs, b. 1885, d. 1988, buried 15 April 1988 in Newton Cemetery Spouse: Harry Bainbridge Winters, Sr., b. 1881 in Ransom, PA Married 22 June 1904. Children and grandchildren: 1 Frank L. Winters, b. 14 May 1905, m. Cora L. Anthony, d. 1957, buried in Abington Hills Cemetery, South Abington Twp., PA 2 Ralph Winters, Sr., b. 5 January 1910, m. Janet Kluch, d. 1976 3 Howard Winters (2), b. 1912, d. 1917 4 Stanley Winters, b. 1915, m. Susan Jane "Jane" ?, d. 2003 5 Robert W. Winters, b. 1918, d. 1991 6 Harry Bainbridge Winters, Jr., b. 1 September 1920, m. Helen York, d. 25 December 2000 7 Laura Winters, b. 1923, m. George Pasternak, Twins with Lawrence Ray Winters 8 Lawrence Ray Winters, b. 1923, m. Doris Mae Huggler, 30 April 1946, d. 2008, Twins with Laura Winters 9 Kenneth Winters, b. 1927, m. Wilma Felker  9. John Robert Fahs, b. 25 October 1888 in Newton Twp., PA, d. February 1974 in Liverpool, NY, buried in probably Sunnyside Cemetery, Tunkhannock, PA Spouse: Helen Bardwell, b. 1887, d. 1956, buried in Sunnyside Cemetery, Tunkhannock, PA Married.  10. Dora Fahs, b. 1865 in Germany, d. 1919, buried in Newton Cemetery Spouse: Lewis B. Ayers Jr., b. 1865 Married 1883. Children and grandchildren: 1 11. Oscar Ayers, b. 1894, m. Grace A. Barnum, d. 1968, buried in Newton Cemetery; 2 grandchildren 2 12. Freda M. Ayers, b. 1896, d. 1911, buried in Newton Cemetery  11. Oscar Ayers, b. 1894, d. 1968, buried in Newton Cemetery Spouse: Grace A. Barnum Married. Children and grandchildren: 1 living Ayers 2 Virginia Barnum Ayers, b. ca. 1925 in PA  12. Freda M. Ayers, b. 1896, d. 1911, buried in Newton Cemetery

    08/09/2009 09:49:44
    1. [FAAS] Test Message from Administrator
    2. Fred H Held
    3. This is a test message from the FAAS mail list administrator to check various options - ö ü ä ß

    09/13/2006 01:34:56
    1. Lists Up For Adoption
    2. Beth Brown
    3. The above lists that I have been "list mom" for have now been placed for adoption and need new list admins. If anyone is interested, please contact [email protected] . Events of the past year and changes in demands on my personal life make this necessary. I do intend, however, to remain subscribed to the lists and contribute as I am able to. Any questions, please feel free to email at [email protected] . Beth Brown

    12/30/2005 04:37:27
    1. New U.S. Bill Will Close Records to Genealogists
    2. Beth Brown
    3. The following came this morning from RootsWeb Review newsletter. Beth List Mom * * * New Bill Will Close Records to Genealogists HR10, which was mentioned in the 13 October issue of RootsWeb Review, has passed out of the U.S. House of Representatives and is now part of S.2845. The amendments suggested by David Rencher in his letter to the bill's sponsor, Congressman J. Dennis Hastert, were NOT incorporated into this legislation. Thus, the terms of HR10 will now be considered by the Senate, as part of S.2845. If S.2845 becomes law, as now written, family historians will face some real challenges in attempts to obtain birth records, even on long- deceased individuals. Specifically, what genealogists need to do is suggest to their lawmakers the addition of Sec. 3061(b)(1)(A)(iii) that would read: "who is alive on the date that access to their birth certificate is requested." This addition would clarify that the legislation (soon to be law) applies ONLY to birth certificates of CURRENTLY LIVING PERSONS. If you do not know your U.S. Senator's e-mail address, you can find it at http://www.senate.gov/ This bill can be found online at http://thomas.loc.gov/ Put in S.2845 (in the bill number window) and then select item No. 3; and go to Subtitle B--Identity Management Security; Chapter 2--Improved Security for Birth Certificates.

    12/09/2004 05:15:10
    1. Digital Photo Preservation
    2. Beth Brown
    3. I got the following in an e-mail newsletter from Cindi's List. I found it to very interesting and thought it might be helpful to others. URL: http://www.webyfl.com/index.asp?PageAction=Custom&ID=98 TITLE: Digital Preservation DESCRIPTION: Brief article on dangers of relying solely on digital means to preserve your photographs. Beth List Mom

    11/19/2004 10:48:06
    1. Fw: New Washington State Digital Archives
    2. Beth Brown
    3. I got this from another list that I belong to. Once I figured out how to navigate the site, it was relatively easy to use. Beth List Mom >I don't know how many of you have connections to Washington State, but here >is an announcement from their new State Archive site. It looks like they >have done some very nice work! > > Washington State Digital Archives Grand Opening > > The much-anticipated grand opening of America's first state government > digital archives occurred on October 4, 2004. The opening gala event > hosted Washington State legislators, county officials, archivists from > throughout the United States, as well as a delegation of regional > archivists from as far away as China. Among the speakers at this > prestigious event were Secretary of State Sam Reed and Lew Bellardo, > Deputy Archivist of the United States. > > The Digital Archives Archival Management System was also brought on-line > that day, with the electronic marriage records from Chelan, Snohomish and > Spokane counties — as well as the Historic Census and Naturalization > records database — web arrayed in an easy to user search interface > (www.digitalarchives.wa.gov > <http://www.digitalarchives.wa.gov/index.aspx>). > > It is the mission of the digital archives to preserve and make accessible > the electronic records for both state and local government agencies in > Washington State.

    10/09/2004 01:20:11
    1. Family Crest
    2. Christine Fulgham
    3. Does anyone know of a FAAS family crest or coat of arms? Specifically pertaining to the Black Forest, Germany Faas'?? Thanks! Christine

    09/18/2004 02:08:59
    1. Fw: The Census Taker
    2. Beth Brown
    3. I got this today from another list... hope that it touches you as it did me. Beth The Census Taker It was the first day of the census, and all through the land The pollster was ready.. A black book in his hand. He mounted his horse for a long dusty ride His book and some quills were tucked close by his side. A long winding ride down a road barely there Toward the smell of fresh bread wafting through the air. The woman was tired, with lines on her face, And wisps of brown hair she tucked back in place. She gave him some water as they sat at the table, And she answered his questions as best she was able. He asked of her children...yes, she had quite a few; The oldest was twenty, the youngest not two. She held up a toddler with cheeks round and red. His sister, she whispered, was napping in bed. She noted each person who lived there with pride, As she felt the faint stirrings of the wee one inside. He noted the sex, the color, the age... The marks from the quill soon filled up the page. At the number of children, she nodded her head, And he saw her lips quiver for the three that were dead. The places of birth she "never forgot." Was it Kansas, or Utah? Or Oregon.. Or not? They came from Lithuania, of that she was clear, But she wasn't quite sure just how long they'd been here. They spoke of employment, of schooling and such. They could read some, and write some, though really not much. When the questions were answered, his job there was done, So he mounted his horse and he rode towards the sun. We can almost imagine his voice loud and clear, "May god bless you all for another ten years!" Now picture a time warp, it's now you and me As we search for the people on our family tree. We squint at the census and scroll down so slow, As we search for that entry from long, long ago. Could we only imagine on that long ago day That the entries they made would affect us this way? If they knew, would they wonder at the yearning we feel And the searching that makes them so increasingly real. We can hear, if we listen, the words they impart Through their blood in our veins and their voice in our heart. Author unknown.

    09/15/2004 10:54:17
    1. "The Census Taker Cometh"
    2. Beth Brown
    3. This was in an ancestry.com daily newsletter that I receive. Over the years, I've read comments on how the census enumerator got his/her info but this puts a new twist on it. I hope that you enjoy it as much as I did. Beth -- List Mom Beyond the Index The Census Taker Cometh by Michael John Neill It is June 3, 1860. Anna Gufferman, who is twelve years old, sees a stranger approaching her small home. He looks reasonably dressed and does not appear to be carrying a weapon. Illinois is not as wild a place as Nebraska where her cousins live, but mother has warned her that one can never be too careful. She shoos her five younger siblings in the house as the man approaches. He approaches the front yard and calls out for the man or the woman of the house and says he is here to ask questions for something called the "census." Anna is wary of calling for her parents if there is no need. When Father and the boys are in the field, he does not like to be disturbed, not even if Grandfather comes. Mother is down at the creek by herself, having left Anna with the children. The weekly washing is one of the few times Mother does not have several small children underfoot, and Anna is hesitant to bother her if it is not absolutely necessary. Anna decides this "census" does not require her to disturb her parents. She tells the census taker that she is very familiar with the family and the goings on in the household. After all, she is twelve years old and responsible for several younger siblings. The census taker asks Anna several questions, which she frankly thinks are none of his business. He tells her that the government needs to know this information and that it is important it be accurate. Anna does the best she can to answer his questions. He starts by asking her the names of her parents and her siblings. "It is a good thing my parents are not here," Anna thinks to herself. While her English is rudimentary, it is considerably better than the handful of words her parents have managed to learn. Determined to impress the census man with her knowledge of English, she indicates that her parents are not Hinrich and Anneke Gufferman, but that they are rather Henry and Ann. Her other siblings all have names more German sounding than Anna's. She decides to provide the census taker with English versions of their names, just as she did with those of her parents. Anna is not quite certain how old her parents and her siblings are, but the man seems to insist on knowing their age precisely. Their christening names and dates of birth would be in the family bible, but Mother would fly into an absolute rage if Anna got the bible herself and began leafing through it. Deciding it was not worth the risk of her mother catching her in the act, Anna guesses as to the age of her parents. Despite her uncertainty, she speaks clearly and distinctly to convince the census man that she knows the ages precisely. He seems pleased to get the information. He then asks where her parents were born. Anna knows they were born in Germany and were married there. Those questions are easy. The census man then asks where she and her siblings were born. These questions are not so easy. She cannot remember which of her older brothers were born in Germany and which ones were born in Illinois. She remembers that her parents lived for a while in Ohio before coming to Illinois. And frankly, she is getting tired of all the questions. Consequently she tells the census taker that her two older brothers were born in Germany, the next was born in Ohio and that all the remaining children were born in Illinois. Anna decides to give hurried answers to the rest of the census man's questions. He has taken time away from her chores and Mother will not be happy if the morning tasks are not done when she returns. Occasionally impatient with Anna's delayed answers, the census man seems pleased when Anna begins answering the questions more quickly. Eager to please and knowing she should return to her chores, Anna speedily answers the remaining questions, paying little concern to the accuracy of her answers. It is June 25, 1880. The census taker arrives at the home of Hinrich and Anneke Gufferman. It is a different place than his fellow enumerator encountered in 1860. Hinrich and Anneke have two children at home, the youngest son who helps his father farm and a daughter who works as a hired girl for a Swedish couple up the road. There is still plenty of work for Anneke to perform around the house, but no longer meeting the needs of twelve children makes her life less harried than it was before. Anneke invites the census taker into her kitchen and after he indicates some of the information he needs, she goes and gets the family bible, which contains the names and dates of birth for her husband and her children. She opens the bible to the appropriate page and tells the census taker there is the information. The entries are written in Hinrich's bold, clean script and the census taker only has difficulty in reading the name of the youngest daughter Trientje, which he copies down as Fruita. Otherwise the odd-sounding names are easy to read and the census taker simply copies them into his record. There are additional questions and Anneke provides the answers as best she can. In Germany, her husband was a day laborer and had moved several times looking for work. When asked where her husband's parents were born she is not certain; Hinrich's mother died when he was a baby and the father had died shortly after their marriage. Anneke told him the parents were born in Germany. Anneke was not certain of her father's place of birth, either. He had died before her birth and had been a soldier. Anneke had been named for her father's mother, with a first name that was unusual for the area of Germany where she was from. Thinking her father was Dutch, she told the census taker that her father was born in Holland. But she was not really certain. It is June 16, 1900. The census taker comes to the door of Hinrich Gufferman. It has been a month since his beloved Anneke has died. Hinrich does not know the census taker. He swears at him in German in a booming voice and the enumerator senses that he will get no answers. Gufferman's son Johann lives a few miles up the road, fortunately in the same township. The son had told the census taker that Hinrich was taking the death very badly and was only speaking to a few family members. Johann told the census taker to come back if information was needed on the father. It looked like the enumerator would have to take Johann up on his offer. Ever wondered why some census entries look like creative accounting? Have you ever thought about what actually transpired when the census taker arrived at your ancestor's home?

    07/21/2004 04:03:25
    1. Trip to Lewis County, Washington
    2. Beth Brown
    3. Hello all: The first week of August I will be making a trip to Lewis County in Washington State. I will be meeting a cousin there and we will be making the rounds of several cemeteries in the eastern part of the county. As I will be taking my new digital camera with me with its big memory chip, I'm extending the offer to take photos of headstones. But... I will need to know the cemetery the person is buried in and a name. I do not guarantee my expertise with a camera nor do I guarantee that I will be able to visit every cemetery or find every grave that is being looked for... BUT I WILL TRY. Any requests will need to be to me by Sunday, August 1st so that I will have the time to lay out my itinerary. Beth Brown [email protected] List Mom for WALEWIS and FAAS

    07/11/2004 12:40:24
    1. [FAAS] Fw: Washington State Records
    2. Beth Brown
    3. I just got this from another list that I subscribe to. Happy hunting!!! Beth Brown List Mom > This just came in, > The state of Washingon has announced new historical data and how to get it. > http://www.rootsweb.com/~wagenweb/hist-rec-update12-03.htm

    12/18/2003 09:45:40
    1. [FAAS] Old City Directories On-Line
    2. Beth Brown
    3. This was passed onto me from another list. These are digitally scanned images -- not transcriptions. Beth Brown List Mum > Research your genealogy with our FREE collection of old city > Directories! Each directory has been digitally scanned > allowing you to > view and print images of the actual pages! > > We now have the following directories online: > > Chicago, Illinois 1844 > Cleveland, Ohio 1837 > Denver, Colorado 1892 > Monroe, Wisconsin 1891 > Monson, Massachusetts 1897 > New York City, New York 1786 > Ohio City, Ohio 1837 > Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 1890 > Stamford, Connecticut 1907 > > Many more coming soon! > > Please visit http://olddirectorysearch.com/

    09/01/2003 03:57:02
    1. [FAAS] Fw: American Map Collection
    2. Beth Brown
    3. I just got this from another list that I belong to and thought it would be of interest to others. I went to the site, and what they have is amazing. http://memory.loc.gov/ammem/gmdhtml/gmdhome.html Beth Brown List Mom > The Geography and Map Division of the Library of Congress > holds more than 4.5 million items, of > which Map Collections represents only a small fraction, those > that have been converted to digital form. > > The focus of Map Collections is Americana and Cartographic > Treasures of the Library of Congress. > These images were created from maps and atlases and, in > general, are restricted to items that are not > covered by copyright protection. > > Map Collections is organized according to seven major > categories. Because a map will be assigned > to only one category, unless it is part of more than one core > collection, searching Map Collections at > this level will provide the most complete results since the > indexes for all categories are searched > simultaneously. Maps can now be downloaded. > > ==== INDIAN-CAPTIVES Mailing List ==== > ".... people will forget what you said ... .... people will forget what > you did ... .... but people will never forget how you made them feel > ..."

    07/09/2003 04:41:09
    1. [FAAS] From List Mom . . . Time to Stir the Pot
    2. Beth Brown
    3. Things have way too quiet on this list for way too long. I'm going to suggest that we do what we did on another genealogy list several months ago. It was amazing what turned up!! I'm going to ask each subscriber to post their direct lines. I'll go first so that you have an example. Add as much information about yourself as you like, but please don't feel that you need to tell everything about those who are still living. Most of the information that I am posting, I have verified myself. However, all of my information posted is subject to further review should anyone have anything conflicting. Elizabeth Ann "Beth" MILLER, now residing in Albany, Oregon --> Elora Mae FAAS <living> m. William Owen BRYSON MILLER b. 23 Nov 1919 Pittsburgh, Allegheny, Pennsylvania, d. 17 Sep 1981 South Bend, Pacific, Washington --> Thomas Lafayette FAAS b. 15 Feb 1909 Alpha or Cinebar, Lewis, Washington; m. Dolly Virginia CONN m. 29 Aug 1929; d. 26 Jun 1981 Lopez Island, San Juan, Washington --> Frank Adolf FAAS b. 24 Feb 1876, Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania; m. Christina SCHMITT 11 Aug 1905; d. 16 Feb 1930 Chehalis, Lewis, Washington --> John (Johann) Casper FAAS b. Apr 1835 Wuerttemberg, Germany, m. Bertha YAUCHLER/JUCHLER 1866/1867; d. 22 Mar 1911 So feel free to jump right in with your pedigree. If anyone is interested in more information on mine, please let me know and I will forward it to you. Beth Brown FAAS List Mom

    07/09/2003 04:19:37
    1. [FAAS] Fw: Rootsweb Problem
    2. Beth Brown
    3. Just got this and am forwarding it to all the lists. Don't know about the rest of you, but I really don't need to be confused any more than I already am. Beth Brown List Mom for WALEWIS, FAAS, BRANSTETTER, HURT & TREWARTHA > Many RootsWeb lists housed on the same server were > affected by some unscheduled down-time caused by hardware > problems....since March 26th. > > Mail is running again, but current messages will be posted first, > and older messages will gradually be re-introduced into the queue > so as not to overload the servers. This will probably create some > confusion for the first couple of days, when you might see an answer > before you see the original question. > > If you had posted a message / query which you haven't yet seen posted, > give it a day or two, and if you don't see it, just post the message > again. Expect to see mail chronologically out-of-order for a day or > two, so if your in-box automatically "sorts by date" mail may jump _up_ > in your in-box. > > Once the server problem was noticed, incoming mail was cached > for later (deferred) delivery, but anything posted at the same time > period when the server quit is probably lost. > > Rootsweb

    03/31/2003 03:56:04
    1. [FAAS] List Mom's Absence
    2. Beth Brown
    3. Hello all, I will be away from my computer for pretty much the next 3 weeks to care for my mother after an upcoming surgery. Due to the recent subscribing of a spammer and subsequent posting of pornographic spam, I changed all the lists to a format in which I had to manually add each new subscriber. Now I need your vote. Do you want it to remain this way (no other spammers caught as to-date)? Or do you want me to return it to folks being able to subscribe themselves? During my absence, anyone who requested subscription to a particular list would be in limbo until I returned home. These are your family mailing lists so please let me know how you would like things handled. Thanks, Beth Brown List Mom

    03/09/2003 01:01:43
    1. [FAAS] Fw: {not a subscriber} EMail Help Needed to Open Access to Public Records
    2. Beth Brown
    3. I received the following e-mail from Bob Witherspoon who is the president of the Washington State Genealogical Society. Therefore, this e-mail is directed to those who do research in the State of Washington. Bob's snail mail and e-mail addresses are at the bottom of the forwarded message, as well as Bob's phone number, should you need further information. I know that there are many strong feelings on both sides of this issue. If this isn't of interest to you, please use your delete button. If this is of interest to you . . . please, please . . . let your opinion be heard. > We need your help in emailing the state legislature this weekend to show > support for two bills with significant impact on our ability to do family > research. > > HB 1153/SB 5275, Managing Confidential Records > >House Bill 1153, and its companion bill Senate Bill 5275, deal with > placing a time limit on how long certain records in the State Archives system > can be kept closed to public inspection and copying. > >Currently, there are more than 100 various types of information which are > exempt from public disclosure, including personal information in any files > maintained for students in public schools. Only a few of these exemptions > state how long the information can be kept from the public. The rest of the > exemptions are open-ended, thereby keeping the records sealed forever. > >Under HB 1153 and SB 5275, records transferred to the state archives may > be exempt from public disclosure for a maximum limit of 75 years from when > the records were created. If the law already sets a shorter time for release > of a specific record, the archives will follow the shorter limit for opening > the record to public inspection. > > It is unlikely that an 80-year-old will object to the release of personal > information held in his or her kindergarten records, and that information > could advance the research and liven up the telling of that person’s family > history. > >I believe the public has a right to know what its government is doing, > so long as it does not jeopardize national security or the basic rights of > the individual. I think the public has a need to know, from some perspective > of time, why the government took the actions it took so that errors in > judgment are not repeated. And surely individuals have a vested interest in > the social and medical histories of their ancestors so they can understand > what issues and conditions affected their moral upbringing and physical > health. HB 1153 and SB 5275 will help us retain these rights and interests. > > HB 1153, Managing Confidential Records, already has been approved by the > State Government Committee and will be sent to the full House of > Representatives for enactment into law. Please email your state > representatives, and ask for their vote to approve this bill. > > SB 5275, Managing Confidential Records, will go before the Government > Operations and Elections Committee of the Senate on Tuesday, February 11, > 2003, for public hearings. Please send emails now asking for support from > your state senator, and email Senator Pam Roach, chair of the Goventment > Operations and Elections Committee, and the members of that committee, to ask > them to pass the bill on for adoption by the full Senate. > > > Senate’s Government Operations and Elections Committee: > > Pam Roach, chair: [email protected] > Val Stevens [email protected] > James Kastama [email protected] > Darlene Fairley [email protected] > Jim Horn [email protected] > Bob McCaslin [email protected] > Aaron Reardon [email protected] > > Thank you for your help to establish a finite limit on the exemption of > records from > public inspection and copying. > > Bob Witherspoon > President, Washington State Genealogical Society > PO Box 491 > Belingham, WA 98227-0491 > 360-734-9835 > [email protected]

    02/09/2003 08:07:09
    1. [FAAS] SPAM
    2. Beth Brown
    3. Unfortunately, this message isn't about that salty stuff that comes in a can . . . which I happen to actually enjoy. Everyday I get a number of messages that are considered "bounces." This happens when the spammers use the [email protected] address in an attempt to post their messages. For the first time, for me at least, I had a spammer figure out how to subscribe to one of the lists. That individual then posted a pornographic message to that list this morning. For those of you who received the message, be assured that the person has been "unsubscribed." I have now reset each of the lists so that anyone wishing to subscribe will have their request routed to me first instead of being automatically added. While I feel this to be a form of censorship, I don't see any other way to avoid this happening in the future. Any and all suggestions are welcome. Beth Brown List Mom for WALEWIS, FAAS, BRANSTETTER & HURT

    01/28/2003 05:40:41
    1. [FAAS] Fw: {not a subscriber} Show 'n Tell Time
    2. Beth Brown
    3. So far I haven't been able to determine why they think I am not a subscriber. I went to the rootsweb admistrator tool area, and there it shows that I am subscribed. I will try forwarding this for now to see if it will post. Beth ----- Original Message ----- From: "Beth Brown" <[email protected]> To: "FAAS" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 4:09 PM Subject: {not a subscriber} Show 'n Tell Time > Hello all: > > I am going to try something that has worked on some other lists I belong to or am "mom" for. Let's try listing just our direct ancestry. It is less cumbersome than trying to share an entire genealogy, but it just might ring a bell for someone. > > So . . . I'll go first. And I will be anxiously waiting to see each of yours. > > John (Johann) Casper FAASS m. Bertha YAUCHLER/JUCHLER > (Germany, Pennsylvania, & Washington) > Frank Adolph FAAS m. Christina SCHMITT (Pennsylvania, Illinois, > Missouri, & Washington) > Thomas Lafayette FAAS m. Dolly Virginia CONN (Washington & Idaho) > Elora Mae FAAS m. William Owen BRYSON (Washington & > Pennsylvania > and here I am : Beth > > Beth Brown > List Mom for WALEWIS, FAAS, BRANSTETTER, & HURT > >

    01/09/2003 12:02:54
    1. [FAAS] Fw: How common your surname?
    2. Beth Brown
    3. This was posted on another genealogy list I belong to. I found it interesting, and thought that some of you might, too. Beth Brown List Mom for WALEWIS, FAAS, BRANSTETTER, & HURT > Check out how common your surname is in this database. > > http://www.pbs.org/cgi-registry/pov/sweetestsound/poirot?name=Roberts

    01/08/2003 05:28:05