Do we have conclusive evidence that the last child was a boy and that his name was Richard? Or could the last child have been a girl, Priscilla, born after Richard was deceased? I have seen this both ways and to my knowledge, never completely supported, causing me to always wonder which is correct. Some point to the will of Elizabeth Kingsbury but I don't read conclusive proof that Priscilla was a Kingsbury. She would have been raised in the Kingsbury household and this could be causing the confusion. As I say, I am open. Don Raymond. -----Original Message----- From: Paul Thorn Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2010 10:06 PM To: evans-richard@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [EVANS-RICHARD] Our Richard Concerning the children of Richard Evans and Elizabeth Hall: Unless I'm very much mistaken, the guardianship papers from 1714 indicate that Richard Evans' children were Samuel, Ann, Elizabeth, and Richard, the last being the child born in 1703, after his father's will was executed. Their sister, Priscilla, was born a Kingsbury, and was the daughter of Elizabeth Hall by her second husband. Since there isn't any later record of the younger Richard Evans, it appears that he died without issue, and before his mother or any of his siblings. Please correct me if I'm mistaken; but my understanding is that, while Priscilla may have been our aunt, she was never an Evans. Paul A. Thorn > Date: Sat, 11 Dec 2010 19:14:57 -0600 > From: listadministratorevans@earthlink.net > To: evans-richard@rootsweb.com > Subject: [EVANS-RICHARD] Our Richard > > Hi Kaye, > > Welcome aboard. > > This list is devoted to a study of our immigrant ancestor, Richard > Evans, who came to Maryland before 1672. He was born sometime between > 1650 and 1665. We have yet to find out exactly where [you can search > some of the past list emails for discussions on such topics]. He had > died by 25 April 1703. He married Elizabeth Hall, daughter of Richard > Hall and, we think, Elizabeth Wingfield. His children included Samuel > Evans who married Sarah ?; Elizabeth Evans who married Charles Lucas and > Peter Beal; Anne Evans who married Robert Pottinger; and Priscilla Evans > who married William or Richard Groome and ? MacClain. > > Since Samuel was Richard's only son, all of us descend from him. I'm > sure we have other cousins who descend from Richard's girls, but, so far > as I know, we haven't discovered any of their descendants yet. A lot of > the dates I may have given can be debated but I'm just trying to give a > quick framework. Samuel moved to Pennsylvania and his many descendants > spread out from there....Some of his descendants who fought in the > Revolutionary War were given lands in other states. I'm from Hugh, who > was given lands in Ohio... but before he could claim them because of > Indian problems, he lived in Kentucky. We think that Samuel may have had > descendants whose names we do not have. > > Other members of the list descend from other of Samuel's descendants and > their histories involve other states. They may introduce themselves to > you. I hope whoever shares your history will do so. > > 'Nuff for now.... > > Renee > > > > On 12/11/10Saturday 6:09 PM, Kaye Palacios wrote: > > Hello Folks, > > > > I have only been on here a short while, and know that this site is > > devoted > > to Richard Evans. My question is, can someone post the data on this > > Richard > > Evans, and where he was from.?? Please, as I do not know which Richard > > this > > was. > > > > My Richard W. Evans was born ca. 1765...not sure where, but suspect it > > to be > > Md. or Va. He was in East Ky. by 1800, and last found on the 1830 census > > being 60/70 yr. old. Also on this census was Phillip, Evan, and John > > Evans. > > Richard being much older than the others. > > > > Have some data collected from old post on different Evans families, but > > as > > yet have not tied my Richard into any of them. There was of course, the > > line > > of Thomas Evans of Monongalia Co. Va. whose widow, and some children > > came to > > East Ky. BUT there were OTHER Evans lines there in that time frame also. > > Just trying to divide them, and sort out who belongs to who..!! > > > > Thank you for any data,.......all is a help. > > > > Kaye > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > EVANS-RICHARD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to EVANS-RICHARD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On 12/12/10Sunday 11:41 PM, Don wrote: > Do we have conclusive evidence that the last child was a boy and that his > name was Richard? Or could the last child have been a girl, Priscilla, born > after Richard was deceased? I have seen this both ways and to my knowledge, > never completely supported, causing me to always wonder which is correct. > Some point to the will of Elizabeth Kingsbury but I don't read conclusive > proof that Priscilla was a Kingsbury. She would have been raised in the > Kingsbury household and this could be causing the confusion. As I say, I am > open. Don Raymond. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Paul Thorn > Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2010 10:06 PM > To: evans-richard@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [EVANS-RICHARD] Our Richard > > > Concerning the children of Richard Evans and Elizabeth Hall: > Unless I'm very much mistaken, the guardianship papers from 1714 indicate > that Richard Evans' children were Samuel, Ann, Elizabeth, and Richard, the > last being the child born in 1703, after his father's will was executed. > Their sister, Priscilla, was born a Kingsbury, and was the daughter of > Elizabeth Hall by her second husband. Since there isn't any later record of > the younger Richard Evans, it appears that he died without issue, and before > his mother or any of his siblings. Please correct me if I'm mistaken; but > my understanding is that, while Priscilla may have been our aunt, she was > never an Evans. > > Paul A. Thorn >> Date: Sat, 11 Dec 2010 19:14:57 -0600 >> From: listadministratorevans@earthlink.net >> To: evans-richard@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [EVANS-RICHARD] Our Richard >> >> Hi Kaye, >> >> Welcome aboard. >> >> This list is devoted to a study of our immigrant ancestor, Richard >> Evans, who came to Maryland before 1672. He was born sometime between >> 1650 and 1665. We have yet to find out exactly where [you can search >> some of the past list emails for discussions on such topics]. He had >> died by 25 April 1703. He married Elizabeth Hall, daughter of Richard >> Hall and, we think, Elizabeth Wingfield. His children included Samuel >> Evans who married Sarah ?; Elizabeth Evans who married Charles Lucas and >> Peter Beal; Anne Evans who married Robert Pottinger; and Priscilla Evans >> who married William or Richard Groome and ? MacClain. >> >> Since Samuel was Richard's only son, all of us descend from him. I'm >> sure we have other cousins who descend from Richard's girls, but, so far >> as I know, we haven't discovered any of their descendants yet. A lot of >> the dates I may have given can be debated but I'm just trying to give a >> quick framework. Samuel moved to Pennsylvania and his many descendants >> spread out from there....Some of his descendants who fought in the >> Revolutionary War were given lands in other states. I'm from Hugh, who >> was given lands in Ohio... but before he could claim them because of >> Indian problems, he lived in Kentucky. We think that Samuel may have had >> descendants whose names we do not have. >> >> Other members of the list descend from other of Samuel's descendants and >> their histories involve other states. They may introduce themselves to >> you. I hope whoever shares your history will do so. >> >> 'Nuff for now.... >> >> Renee >> >>

Well, this is confusing, indeed. The following is how I have it: I have the children of Elizabeth Hall Evans Kingsberry and Dr. James Kingsberry as James and John. [The book/The Genealogy of the Descendants of Henry Kingsbury of Ipswich and Haverhill, Mass /from the collections made by Frederick John Kingsbury, LL.D. Hartford Press: The Case, Lockwood & Brainard Company, 1905. tells us that Elizabeth and James had another son, named John. [I have a note to myself: "Get more on this"] I have Priscilla as the child of Elizabeth and Richard and the child Elizabeth was pregnant with when Richard died. ["Richard Evans made his last will 7 Jan 1702, proved in Calvert Co, Md 25 Apr 1703 in which he mentions his wife Elizabeth, as Exec; she to have his dwelling place and part of 'Hall's Hill' which land he had purchased from his brother-in-law, Elisha Hall; she also to have the 150 acres called 'Johnson's place' during her lifetime, then it to go to their son Samuel Evans. Son Samuel also to have the 300 acres called 'The Hope,' which was located on the Susquehanna River in Cecil Co, Md. 'If my unborn child be a dau, she to share equally with my dau Elizabeth in the 400 acre tract called 'Evans Range'; to his dau Ann the survey called 'Green's Delight' in Prince George Co, his daus to be over 16 yrs of age when they receive their property. He appoints his brothers-in-law, Walter Smith and Benjamin Hall, as overseers. [See Md Cal of Wills vol 3 p 1]. His unborn child was a dau, Priscilla who mar [1] a mr. Groome; mar [2] a Mr. McClain."] Also note, in the following will, a John Kingsbury is mentioned as witness: "From the Early Families of Southern Maryland, Vol 6 by Elise Greenup Jourdan, page 194 Will of ANNE POTTENGER, widow, written 18 May 1767; probate 3 Feb 1768 ?25 to build a stone wall around the graveyard on dwelling plantation 4 daus.: Eliza. Cramphin, Ann Beall, Rachel Magruder, Eleanor MacGill Granddau.: Ann Pottenger, d/o my son Robert, dec'd Bro: Samuel Evans; sister Priscilla MacClain Grandchild.: Robert, Ann and Rachel [children of Robert, dec'd] To grandsons: Allin and John Bowie, Robert Cramphin, Basil Cramphin, & Richard Pottenger Cramphin, sons of dau. Elizabeth Cramphin, 1/6 To dau. Ann Beall, wife of James Beal, ?64 and 1/6 To dau. Rachel Magruder, wife of Zadock ?64 and 1/6 To dau. Eleanor MacGill, wife of Thomas, ?64 and 1/6 To granddaus.: Elizabeth and Sarah Smith, daus. of my dau. Mary Congrove [?], 1/6 To Rachell & Robt. Pottenger, widow and son of son Robert, 1/6 Ex: Son-in-law Thomas MacGill Wit: John Kingsbury, Thomas Cramphin, Jr. [PG Wills, 1.603; MCW XIV .35; Wills, 36.361]"