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    1. Re: [EVANS-RICHARD] John Evans married to Nancy Windsor
    2. Paul Thorn
    3. John Evans, Sr. was not related to Edward Evans. The two families reached Monongalia County from different points of origin, and didn't even live in the same part of the county. Their experiences were entirely dissimilar, just like their family names. Both families tended to repeat the same names from one generation to the next, but they didn't share the same ones, which can make them easier to tell apart. As far as we know, all of the Evanses descended from Richard Evans are descended from his son, Samuel (who, to repeat yet again, was almost certainly not born in 1691, but some time between 1696 and 1700). Samuel seems to have had a younger brother, Richard, born in 1703, but it looks as though he died without issue. So the only Evans descendants named Evans in Edward's generation were Edward and his brothers and sisters. Edward Evans did have a brother, John, but he settled in what is now Greene County, Pennsylvania. While Edward didn't live too far away to visit from time to time, as far as I know there isn't any evidence that part of John's family ever settled in Monongalia County. John Evans, Sr. was not the same person as Edward's brother; as far as I know there was no relationship whatever. As for the Thomas Evans, ferryman, who left a will naming his children, I cannot be certain that he was not Edward's brother Thomas, but to date there is no evidence that he was. Paul > Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2010 16:56:49 -0800 > From: burby9@yahoo.com > To: evans-richard@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [EVANS-RICHARD] John Evans married to Nancy Windsor > > Paul, I am not seeing where it was said that this John was son or grandson of Edward. Roger > > --- On Tue, 12/14/10, Paul Thorn <p_aculeius@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > From: Paul Thorn <p_aculeius@hotmail.com> > > Subject: Re: [EVANS-RICHARD] John Evans married to Nancy Windsor > > To: evans-richard@rootsweb.com > > Date: Tuesday, December 14, 2010, 3:35 PM > > > > Sorry to remain skeptical, but I still don't believe that > > the children listed earlier in this discussion could be part > > of the Edward Evans family. It seems extremely > > unlikely that a son or grandson of Edward Evans would have > > named a son Nimrod. Nimrod Evans was the son of John > > Evans, Sr. and Ann Martin, and was not related to the Edward > > Evans family. This was a family fond of distinctive > > names: > > > > Children of John Evans and Ann Martin: > > > > Margaret Evans, m. John Dent > > Dudley Evans, m. Anarah Williams > > Enoch Evans, m. ______ Jenkins > > John Evans, m. Gilly Coleman Strother > > Nimrod Evans, m. Elizabeth Strother > > Rawley Evans, m. Maria Dering > > James Evans, m. ______ Buckner > > Marmaduke Evans, never married > > Coleman Evans, died in childhood > > > > Apart from "John", the families of John Evans, Sr. and > > Edward Evans did not use the same names. I expect that > > Edward and his family were always explaining to people that > > they weren't related to John Evans, Sr., who was arguably > > the most important man in the county until his death. > > Several of his sons were also very prominent men, including > > Nimrod Evans. In my opinion, any other Nimrod Evans is > > likely to be part of the John Evans family, and named for > > his father or uncle. > > > > There are at least seven men named John Evans in Monongalia > > County during this period: > > > > John Evans, Sr., m. Ann Martin > > John Evans, Jr., son of John Evans, Sr., b. circa 1768, m. > > Gilly Coleman Strother > > John Evans, son of Thomas Evans, ferryman, b. circa 1776 > > (possibly same as John Evans, nailer) > > John Evans, son of Edward Evans (probably John Evans, B.R., > > for "bend of river"), b. circa 1777, m. either Sarah Miller, > > 1809, or Nancy Windsor, 1814 > > John W. Evans, son of Dudley Evans, m. Nancy Wells 1813 > > John Evans, son of Gerard Evans (probably the one who m. > > Elizabeth Windsor 1805) > > John M. Evans, m. Mary Haney 1822 > > > > We know that John W. Evans' wife was also named > > Nancy. I think that John, the son of Dudley Evans, may > > somehow have been confused with the John Evans who married > > Nancy Windsor. I believe it would be a serious mistake > > to ignore this possibility. > > > > Paul > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to EVANS-RICHARD-request@rootsweb.com > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > > subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to EVANS-RICHARD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    12/14/2010 03:53:25
    1. Re: [EVANS-RICHARD] John Evans married to Nancy Windsor
    2. GORDON BAKER
    3. Paul: I agree with you. I think that you are correct on this issue. Nimrod is a name found in the Col. John Evans family and not our Evans family. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Thorn" <p_aculeius@hotmail.com> To: <evans-richard@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2010 10:53 PM Subject: Re: [EVANS-RICHARD] John Evans married to Nancy Windsor > > John Evans, Sr. was not related to Edward Evans. The two families reached > Monongalia County from different points of origin, and didn't even live in > the same part of the county. Their experiences were entirely dissimilar, > just like their family names. Both families tended to repeat the same > names from one generation to the next, but they didn't share the same > ones, which can make them easier to tell apart. > > As far as we know, all of the Evanses descended from Richard Evans are > descended from his son, Samuel (who, to repeat yet again, was almost > certainly not born in 1691, but some time between 1696 and 1700). Samuel > seems to have had a younger brother, Richard, born in 1703, but it looks > as though he died without issue. So the only Evans descendants named > Evans in Edward's generation were Edward and his brothers and sisters. > > Edward Evans did have a brother, John, but he settled in what is now > Greene County, Pennsylvania. While Edward didn't live too far away to > visit from time to time, as far as I know there isn't any evidence that > part of John's family ever settled in Monongalia County. John Evans, Sr. > was not the same person as Edward's brother; as far as I know there was no > relationship whatever. As for the Thomas Evans, ferryman, who left a will > naming his children, I cannot be certain that he was not Edward's brother > Thomas, but to date there is no evidence that he was. > > Paul > >> Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2010 16:56:49 -0800 >> From: burby9@yahoo.com >> To: evans-richard@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [EVANS-RICHARD] John Evans married to Nancy Windsor >> >> Paul, I am not seeing where it was said that this John was son or >> grandson of Edward. Roger >> >> --- On Tue, 12/14/10, Paul Thorn <p_aculeius@hotmail.com> wrote: >> >> > From: Paul Thorn <p_aculeius@hotmail.com> >> > Subject: Re: [EVANS-RICHARD] John Evans married to Nancy Windsor >> > To: evans-richard@rootsweb.com >> > Date: Tuesday, December 14, 2010, 3:35 PM >> > >> > Sorry to remain skeptical, but I still don't believe that >> > the children listed earlier in this discussion could be part >> > of the Edward Evans family. It seems extremely >> > unlikely that a son or grandson of Edward Evans would have >> > named a son Nimrod. Nimrod Evans was the son of John >> > Evans, Sr. and Ann Martin, and was not related to the Edward >> > Evans family. This was a family fond of distinctive >> > names: >> > >> > Children of John Evans and Ann Martin: >> > >> > Margaret Evans, m. John Dent >> > Dudley Evans, m. Anarah Williams >> > Enoch Evans, m. ______ Jenkins >> > John Evans, m. Gilly Coleman Strother >> > Nimrod Evans, m. Elizabeth Strother >> > Rawley Evans, m. Maria Dering >> > James Evans, m. ______ Buckner >> > Marmaduke Evans, never married >> > Coleman Evans, died in childhood >> > >> > Apart from "John", the families of John Evans, Sr. and >> > Edward Evans did not use the same names. I expect that >> > Edward and his family were always explaining to people that >> > they weren't related to John Evans, Sr., who was arguably >> > the most important man in the county until his death. >> > Several of his sons were also very prominent men, including >> > Nimrod Evans. In my opinion, any other Nimrod Evans is >> > likely to be part of the John Evans family, and named for >> > his father or uncle. >> > >> > There are at least seven men named John Evans in Monongalia >> > County during this period: >> > >> > John Evans, Sr., m. Ann Martin >> > John Evans, Jr., son of John Evans, Sr., b. circa 1768, m. >> > Gilly Coleman Strother >> > John Evans, son of Thomas Evans, ferryman, b. circa 1776 >> > (possibly same as John Evans, nailer) >> > John Evans, son of Edward Evans (probably John Evans, B.R., >> > for "bend of river"), b. circa 1777, m. either Sarah Miller, >> > 1809, or Nancy Windsor, 1814 >> > John W. Evans, son of Dudley Evans, m. Nancy Wells 1813 >> > John Evans, son of Gerard Evans (probably the one who m. >> > Elizabeth Windsor 1805) >> > John M. Evans, m. Mary Haney 1822 >> > >> > We know that John W. Evans' wife was also named >> > Nancy. I think that John, the son of Dudley Evans, may >> > somehow have been confused with the John Evans who married >> > Nancy Windsor. I believe it would be a serious mistake >> > to ignore this possibility. >> > >> > Paul >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > EVANS-RICHARD-request@rootsweb.com >> > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the >> > subject and the body of the message >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> EVANS-RICHARD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > EVANS-RICHARD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    12/15/2010 01:18:39
    1. [EVANS-RICHARD] to delete or not to delete - that is my question
    2. Evans-Richard List Administrator
    3. Evening cousins, I'm almost afraid to bring this up. I am beyond confused. I don't want to ruffle anyone's feathers.... just trying to figure out where I should be with this branch of the family, which is not my own particular branch and so I am totally dependent on the information given to me by others. I would ask off list so as not to confuse others, but so many have been participating in this discussion, I'm not sure who to ask. OK having prefaced my query, let me jump in where angels would fear to tread: According to the current concurrence of thought, I should remove the names [I only recently inserted] given me as the children of John Evans and Nancy Windsor: William W, Nimrod, Arah, Sarah, Parthenia, Charlotte.... [According to our understanding, these are all names which repeat in an Evans which is not "our" line]. But... help me here.... Should I also remove /John and Nancy? John, married to Nancy Windsor, is Not the son of John Evans and Elizabeth Raver.....?/ Right? Finally, we do still agree that John Evans married to Elizabeth Raver is the son of John Evans [1728] married to Sarah? Right? I'll hold onto my hat now.... and await your response.;-) Renee On 12/15/10Wednesday 7:18 AM, GORDON BAKER wrote: > > Paul: I agree with you. I think that you are correct on this issue. > Nimrod is a name found in the Col. John Evans family and not our Evans > family.

    12/15/2010 11:04:42
    1. Re: [EVANS-RICHARD] John Evans married to Nancy Windsor
    2. Roger Burbank
    3. You have got to be kidding me. I'm going over my Newman Becraft files and found my aunt Ann Becraft married...wait for it... wait> you guessed it a John Evans from Kentucky. Rotten wise guys. Roger --- On Tue, 12/14/10, Paul Thorn <p_aculeius@hotmail.com> wrote: > From: Paul Thorn <p_aculeius@hotmail.com> > Subject: Re: [EVANS-RICHARD] John Evans married to Nancy Windsor > To: evans-richard@rootsweb.com > Date: Tuesday, December 14, 2010, 7:53 PM > > John Evans, Sr. was not related to Edward Evans.  The > two families reached Monongalia County from different points > of origin, and didn't even live in the same part of the > county.  Their experiences were entirely dissimilar, > just like their family names.  Both families tended to > repeat the same names from one generation to the next, but > they didn't share the same ones, which can make them easier > to tell apart. > > As far as we know, all of the Evanses descended from > Richard Evans are descended from his son, Samuel (who, to > repeat yet again, was almost certainly not born in 1691, but > some time between 1696 and 1700).  Samuel seems to have > had a younger brother, Richard, born in 1703, but it looks > as though he died without issue.  So the only Evans > descendants named Evans in Edward's generation were Edward > and his brothers and sisters. > > Edward Evans did have a brother, John, but he settled in > what is now Greene County, Pennsylvania.  While Edward > didn't live too far away to visit from time to time, as far > as I know there isn't any evidence that part of John's > family ever settled in Monongalia County.  John Evans, > Sr. was not the same person as Edward's brother; as far as I > know there was no relationship whatever.  As for the > Thomas Evans, ferryman, who left a will naming his children, > I cannot be certain that he was not Edward's brother Thomas, > but to date there is no evidence that he was. > > Paul > > > Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2010 16:56:49 -0800 > > From: burby9@yahoo.com > > To: evans-richard@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [EVANS-RICHARD] John Evans married to > Nancy Windsor > > > > Paul, I am not seeing where it was said that this John > was son or grandson of Edward.  Roger > > > > --- On Tue, 12/14/10, Paul Thorn <p_aculeius@hotmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > From: Paul Thorn <p_aculeius@hotmail.com> > > > Subject: Re: [EVANS-RICHARD] John Evans married > to Nancy Windsor > > > To: evans-richard@rootsweb.com > > > Date: Tuesday, December 14, 2010, 3:35 PM > > > > > > Sorry to remain skeptical, but I still don't > believe that > > > the children listed earlier in this discussion > could be part > > > of the Edward Evans family.  It seems > extremely > > > unlikely that a son or grandson of Edward Evans > would have > > > named a son Nimrod.  Nimrod Evans was the > son of John > > > Evans, Sr. and Ann Martin, and was not related to > the Edward > > > Evans family.  This was a family fond of > distinctive > > > names: > > > > > > Children of John Evans and Ann Martin: > > > > > > Margaret Evans, m. John Dent > > > Dudley Evans, m. Anarah Williams > > > Enoch Evans, m. ______ Jenkins > > > John Evans, m. Gilly Coleman Strother > > > Nimrod Evans, m. Elizabeth Strother > > > Rawley Evans, m. Maria Dering > > > James Evans, m. ______ Buckner > > > Marmaduke Evans, never married > > > Coleman Evans, died in childhood > > > > > > Apart from "John", the families of John Evans, > Sr. and > > > Edward Evans did not use the same names.  I > expect that > > > Edward and his family were always explaining to > people that > > > they weren't related to John Evans, Sr., who was > arguably > > > the most important man in the county until his > death. > > > Several of his sons were also very prominent men, > including > > > Nimrod Evans.  In my opinion, any other > Nimrod Evans is > > > likely to be part of the John Evans family, and > named for > > > his father or uncle. > > > > > > There are at least seven men named John Evans in > Monongalia > > > County during this period: > > > > > > John Evans, Sr., m. Ann Martin > > > John Evans, Jr., son of John Evans, Sr., b. circa > 1768, m. > > > Gilly Coleman Strother > > > John Evans, son of Thomas Evans, ferryman, b. > circa 1776 > > > (possibly same as John Evans, nailer) > > > John Evans, son of Edward Evans (probably John > Evans, B.R., > > > for "bend of river"), b. circa 1777, m. either > Sarah Miller, > > > 1809, or Nancy Windsor, 1814 > > > John W. Evans, son of Dudley Evans, m. Nancy > Wells 1813 > > > John Evans, son of Gerard Evans (probably the one > who m. > > > Elizabeth Windsor 1805) > > > John M. Evans, m. Mary Haney 1822 > > > > > > We know that John W. Evans' wife was also named > > > Nancy.  I think that John, the son of Dudley > Evans, may > > > somehow have been confused with the John Evans > who married > > > Nancy Windsor.  I believe it would be a > serious mistake > > > to ignore this possibility. > > > > > > Paul    > > >          > > >            > > >    > > >  > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an > email to EVANS-RICHARD-request@rootsweb.com > > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the > > > subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > >        > > > >  > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > EVANS-RICHARD-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message >     >          >            >   > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to EVANS-RICHARD-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message >

    12/21/2010 04:01:37