Ok, Sgt George :-) "spoofing" Please explain how I do this exactly and I'm going to use my hotmail account to mail to and see.. I would never use this for the off reasons.. But, this would be the answer to being on the list where this weird guy is.. I could still post helpful things to the other listers without him causing a sceen.. I've stopped posting and only do privates because of him... Some of the listers have begged me not to leave the list.. they feel very intimidated by him as well and so they come to me.. kinda like we all do to you.. :-)... I would never misuse something like this.. I have my own list and understand the need for complete honesty.. ginger Mike & Ginger Woodcock/EagleRun Australian Shepherds [email protected] http://www.eaglerun1.com Ginger's WebDesign is here to help with your Web Needs, Give us a call, or email with your questions. Remember, the purchase of an EagleRun Aussie is not the end of a Transaction, it is the Beginning of a Relationship, enjoy!! :-)