An admitted prejudiced opinion: 1) Uninstall Norton; 2) The OEM version of McAfee is no good now! Bite the bullet and go to McAfee's home page and pay for the latest version, 5.1. 3) I don't know why you couldn't install the OEM version of McAfee, but in any case, it was probably 3.0, which won't help you much. This is just my OPINION. Not to be taken as "gospel". I've just had so much trouble with Norton, that I won't try ANYTHING that this company puts out. Norton products just don't work well with Windows, whether 95, 98, or 2000. (Major conflicts with the "code".) SgtGeorge At 12:02 AM 05/20/2000, Mike & Ginger Woodcock wrote: *************START OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT************* At 10:56 PM 5/19/00 -0400, you wrote: At 02:21 PM 05/19/2000, Mike & Ginger Woodcock wrote: *************START OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT************* Thanks so much George. I truly appreciate all you do and all your caring. I'm just back after a near fatal attack of virus'. Had to be in the shop for 4 days.. but, all reformatted and clean now.. geesh... Opinions please.. what is the VERY best virus scanner out... **************END OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT************** Oh, gosh! Don't ask me which virus scanner is the best! No matter which one I recommend, some will consider me prejudiced. Back in the very early days of computers (pre-1990), and for a few years after, I used McAfee and Norton and F-Prot and Dr. Solomon and several others. George LOLOL.... Ok, had you in the hot seat.. now another question. I have Norton AV version 4.0 And McAfee OEM internet version that came with my Eudora.. I can't remember the version and it is not installed on my puter... When I last tried to install it, it gave an error message saying it could not install. I'm wondering if it is not compatible with my AMD Athlon. I need to install something immediately and want to do it only ONCE.. LOLOL So, Stg George... what shall I do.. ginger **************END OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT**************

At 02:23 AM 5/20/00 -0400, you wrote: >An admitted prejudiced opinion: > >1) Uninstall Norton; >2) The OEM version of McAfee is no good now! Bite the bullet and go to > McAfee's home page and pay for the latest version, 5.1. >3) I don't know why you couldn't install the OEM version of McAfee, but > in any case, it was probably 3.0, which won't help you much. > >This is just my OPINION. Not to be taken as "gospel". I've just had so >much trouble with Norton, that I won't try ANYTHING that this company puts >out. Norton products just don't work well with Windows, whether 95, 98, >or 2000. (Major conflicts with the "code".) > >SgtGeorge Ok, Mike just came in and said that will work, but what is the latest version. He would rather buy it local so we actually have the CD....So, what version should we look for..? Also, what do you know about PC cillin, it came with my AMD Athlon... I'm curious.. Thanks so much.. ginger Mike & Ginger Woodcock/EagleRun Australian Shepherds [email protected] http://www.eaglerun1.com Ginger's WebDesign is here to help with your Web Needs, Give us a call, or email with your questions. Remember, the purchase of an EagleRun Aussie is not the end of a Transaction, it is the Beginning of a Relationship, enjoy!! :-)

At 10:25 AM 5/20/00 -0500, you wrote: >At 02:23 AM 5/20/00 -0400, you wrote: >>An admitted prejudiced opinion: >> >>1) Uninstall Norton; >>2) The OEM version of McAfee is no good now! Bite the bullet and go to >> McAfee's home page and pay for the latest version, 5.1. >>3) I don't know why you couldn't install the OEM version of McAfee, but >> in any case, it was probably 3.0, which won't help you much. >> >>This is just my OPINION. Not to be taken as "gospel". I've just had so >>much trouble with Norton, that I won't try ANYTHING that this company >>puts out. Norton products just don't work well with Windows, whether 95, >>98, or 2000. (Major conflicts with the "code".) For the most part I agree with Master George, but I must disagree at a low level with him on Norton. They did have some problems, but when we (work group I just retired from) started to chase the problems down, we came upon problems beyond Nortons short fall from grace. I have run a system for over four years now updating from Win31 to Win311, Win95 (three versions), Win98 and now Win98SE. This was done to try to track problems with the over 50 systems we looked out for. I am about to have to kill the system after all these years, not because I do not believe I could extent it for at least one more major change, but because it is a early Pentium 266, and has gotten so slow, that I have to get a whiz giz system to work on the new projects I have gotten. (One other thing, it started as a 90mag pent, and was upgraded to the 266 after we found a way to do so). On this system as well as others, we found the main problem with Anti-Virus programs, was not the particular brand name, or installation. The biggest problem was people trying to use two or three brands of AV at the same time. Even though they did not run them simultaneously as a rule, many of these programs load a "loader" string of code into the stack at startup. These could interfere with each other. It got to where we had to demand that the user completely delete the old program before installing the new, this included the information in the register for the old program. This is not a job for the casual computer user. I was lucky to have a person who lived and breathed windows to do this. My suggestion for those who have tried two or three programs, to either do a new clean install of windows about every six months, (really a pain), or learn how to clean the registry before trying any new programs which are as hard on the system as the AV programs are. There are several programs available that will watch every thing that happens when you try (install) a new program, and will help you completely clean the old out before starting the new. This is the best way, but are hard to use, and you have to make a choice on the removal before any more programs are installed. Good luck, Jack

> > >Ok, > >Mike just came in and said that will work, but what is the latest >version. He would rather buy it local so we actually have the CD....So, >what version should we look for..? > >Also, what do you know about PC cillin, it came with my AMD Athlon... I'm >curious.. > >Thanks so much.. > >ginger Gee, I'm so sorry, I deleted this post, but it must have gone out while I was striking the "big D"... so sorry.. I found the version number as I was typing.. I sometimes skim too fast and miss something important.. :-(.... ginger Mike & Ginger Woodcock/EagleRun Australian Shepherds [email protected] http://www.eaglerun1.com Ginger's WebDesign is here to help with your Web Needs, Give us a call, or email with your questions. Remember, the purchase of an EagleRun Aussie is not the end of a Transaction, it is the Beginning of a Relationship, enjoy!! :-)

Ginger, the web site will tell you the latest version. Mari At 10:25 AM 5/20/00 -0500, Mike & Ginger Woodcock wrote: >Ok, > >Mike just came in and said that will work, but what is the latest >version. He would rather buy it local so we actually have the CD....So, >what version should we look for..? > >Also, what do you know about PC cillin, it came with my AMD Athlon... I'm >curious.. > >Thanks so much.. > >ginger > >Mike & Ginger Woodcock/EagleRun Australian Shepherds >[email protected] http://www.eaglerun1.com >Ginger's WebDesign is here to help with your Web Needs, >Give us a call, or email with your questions. >Remember, the purchase of an EagleRun Aussie is not the end >of a Transaction, it is the Beginning of a Relationship, enjoy!! :-) > > >============================== >Free Web space. ANY amount. ANY subject. >RootsWeb's Freepages put you in touch with millions. >http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi

I'm heading to the website in just a minute.. I have to use Mike's puter to do that right now.. I'm trying to burn some CD's and am having a fit with it.. arghhhh.... letcha know what happens... LOL ginger At 03:53 PM 5/20/00 -0500, you wrote: >Ginger, the web site will tell you the latest version. > >Mari Mike & Ginger Woodcock/EagleRun Australian Shepherds [email protected] http://www.eaglerun1.com Ginger's WebDesign is here to help with your Web Needs, Give us a call, or email with your questions. Remember, the purchase of an EagleRun Aussie is not the end of a Transaction, it is the Beginning of a Relationship, enjoy!! :-)

At 02:23 AM 5/20/00 -0400, you wrote: >An admitted prejudiced opinion: > >1) Uninstall Norton; >2) The OEM version of McAfee is no good now! Bite the bullet and go to > McAfee's home page and pay for the latest version, 5.1. >3) I don't know why you couldn't install the OEM version of McAfee, but > in any case, it was probably 3.0, which won't help you much. > >This is just my OPINION. Not to be taken as "gospel". I've just had so >much trouble with Norton, that I won't try ANYTHING that this company puts >out. Norton products just don't work well with Windows, whether 95, 98, >or 2000. (Major conflicts with the "code".) > >SgtGeorge Ok, I have a serious question here.. :-) I had not put Norton on the puter yet.. I just got it back from the shop because of the damage done by the recent bugs.. I had lost some Windows files and corrupted others.. I did install McAfee 3.1.1....... I shut down this am for something and it took 20 minutes to come up after the reboot... The last time I installed McAfee 3.1.1 on my puter was when I got it home brand new... I've always used McAfee. The only difference is my new puter is an AMD Athlon. So, is there a problem with McAfee and this new unit. I uninstalled 3.1.1 and rebooted.. It came right up.. just as it should have before. Is it something I'm doing or is my puter going to cause me an early death.. :-) HELP..................LOL ginger Mike & Ginger Woodcock/EagleRun Australian Shepherds [email protected] http://www.eaglerun1.com Ginger's WebDesign is here to help with your Web Needs, Give us a call, or email with your questions. Remember, the purchase of an EagleRun Aussie is not the end of a Transaction, it is the Beginning of a Relationship, enjoy!! :-)

One thing to add. George has touched on it...but most of the time these programs that "come as a package" even with Eudora....are either outdated, or only watered down versions. I never use these programs...always buy the full boxed program. Costs more, but you'll never be sorry! Mari At 02:23 AM 5/20/00 -0400, George W. Durman wrote: >An admitted prejudiced opinion: > >1) Uninstall Norton; >2) The OEM version of McAfee is no good now! Bite the bullet and go to > McAfee's home page and pay for the latest version, 5.1. >3) I don't know why you couldn't install the OEM version of McAfee, but > in any case, it was probably 3.0, which won't help you much. > >This is just my OPINION. Not to be taken as "gospel". I've just had so >much trouble with Norton, that I won't try ANYTHING that this company puts >out. Norton products just don't work well with Windows, whether 95, 98, >or 2000. (Major conflicts with the "code".) > >SgtGeorge > > >At 12:02 AM 05/20/2000, Mike & Ginger Woodcock wrote: >*************START OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT************* >At 10:56 PM 5/19/00 -0400, you wrote: >At 02:21 PM 05/19/2000, Mike & Ginger Woodcock wrote: >*************START OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT************* >Thanks so much George. I truly appreciate all you do and all your caring. >I'm just back after a near fatal attack of virus'. Had to be in the shop >for 4 days.. but, all reformatted and clean now.. geesh... Opinions >please.. what is the VERY best virus scanner out... > >**************END OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT************** > >Oh, gosh! Don't ask me which virus scanner is the best! No matter which >one I recommend, some will consider me prejudiced. Back in the very early >days of computers (pre-1990), and for a few years after, I used McAfee and >Norton and F-Prot and Dr. Solomon and several others. > >George > > >LOLOL.... Ok, had you in the hot seat.. now another question. > >I have Norton AV version 4.0 > >And McAfee OEM internet version that came with my Eudora.. I can't >remember the version and it is not installed on my puter... > >When I last tried to install it, it gave an error message saying it could >not install. I'm wondering if it is not compatible with my AMD Athlon. > >I need to install something immediately and want to do it only ONCE.. LOLOL > >So, Stg George... what shall I do.. > >ginger >**************END OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT************** > >============================== >Free Web space. ANY amount. ANY subject. >RootsWeb's Freepages put you in touch with millions. >http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi

At 03:52 PM 5/20/00 -0500, you wrote: >One thing to add. >George has touched on it...but most of the time these programs that "come >as a package" even with Eudora....are either outdated, or only watered >down versions. I never use these programs...always buy the full boxed >program. Costs more, but you'll never be sorry! > >Mari Mari, I do agree with this.. I just put it on because it was with Eudora at the time and just up dated the dat files.. but this new puter DOES not like McAfee..... Mike is going to purchase it, but I'm wondering if I'll be able to use it with my AMD Athlon..... It has done some serious locking up with it on.. I take it off WHEN I can finally get the thing to come back up and bam.......pops back up slicker than snot.. LOL...... Any suggestions... This harddrive was reformatted yesterday.. I put McAfee on and then uninstalled it.. How do I know if I got ALL the little sneaky files off before reinstalling the new one.. and is there really a chance of a problem if I install more than one... "just a question here" LOLOL... but, still want an answer..What would I look for in trouble.. your humble sponge here......, :-) ginger Mike & Ginger Woodcock/EagleRun Australian Shepherds [email protected] http://www.eaglerun1.com Ginger's WebDesign is here to help with your Web Needs, Give us a call, or email with your questions. Remember, the purchase of an EagleRun Aussie is not the end of a Transaction, it is the Beginning of a Relationship, enjoy!! :-)