Thanks, Debbie, I wasn't implying that Eudora was a virus, but rather that maybe the same thing was happening on this list as did to another perfectly valid and reliable list(VIRUS-DISCUSSION-D@rootsweb.com ) where someone had a virus and when you got a response from her, it passed back and forth to others as they communicated to each other who had got her infected response. The way it spread was using the same subject which the original inquirer (me) had sent to the list. That's why I, when I saw several people writing to me at the same time, and one had some funny 'squiggles' in the Subject line, I became wary....not wanting to go through the clean up process as I did before. Yes, I have been using Outlook Express for a long time, (came on my computer) but a techie installed Eudora and said it was better. I want to transfer over, soon as I can save my old OE folders' contents somehow. My problem is, I haven't been able to send out email with Eudora, because my old address listed there 'joanarc10@home.com is not longer applicable, and that's what was used in the initial setup of Eudora. A couple from this list have given me ideas on how to rectify it, and I am still trying. Please do not take me off the list....I know how to unsubscribe should I want to. Just being super cautious in all my emailing, Joan A ----- Original Message ----- From: "Debbie Schnell Woolard" <djwoolard@earthlink.net> To: "joan" <joanarc10@attbi.com> Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 8:53 AM Subject: Re: [EUDORA] THIS IS NOT A VIRUS > At 09:39 PM 12/13/01 -0800, joan wrote: > >hi! > > > > I will seem paranoid to all of you probably, but I got several emails > >from various people with EUDORIA's email address, with the same subject > >that looked suspicious, but something about it gave me pause. I suspected > >a > >virus, because the same thing happened to me on another Virus discussion > >list where BadTrans was attaching itself to email sent to listers by the > >infected computer. > > > > If I'm wrong about this (I suspect others would have come upon this > > if it is a virus)...please forgive the warning, but I deleted them all post > >haste because I didn't want to fall into the same trap. They all came > >just a while ago and all at once! > > Joan, > You are subscribed to the Eudora-Mail mailing list, which is why you are > getting emails from various people that have [EUDORA] in the subject > field. You are not getting viruses from these people! > > Eudora-Mail mailing list is for users of the Eudora Software, a program for > email. I see you are using Outlook Express. You might be more interested > in joining the mailing list for Outlook Express instead of this one. That > list would be better suited to you if you have questions concerning Outlook > Express. Here is the webpage you can find more information about it from, > along with how to subscribe: > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Internet_Help/OUTLOOK-EXPRESS.html > > If you wish to unsubscribe from this, EUDORA-MAIL, list just click on this > following link to send an email. > mailto:EUDORA-MAIL-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe > > Hope this helps you, > > Debbie Schnell Woolard > djwoolard@earthlink.net | ICQ# 83725129 > debala715@yahoo.com | AIM: DeborahWoolard > My WorldConnect Tree http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/~dwoolard > >

I just wish that users like Paul, who must be a "newbie", would check before sending out such bad information. One problem is that he blasted this all over the Internet, to just about all the addresses he had in his address book. Then, Bill (also a "newbie") forwarded it on to lots of other addresses. Folks, that's the way the writers of this infernal HOAX intended for it to be -- scare the BeJesus out of you and cause you to further propagate the HOAX. WARD OF WARNING!!!!! ANYTIME you receive an email of a VIRUS WARNING, please go to the web site for your particular Anti-Virus (AV) program and check it out. OK? And, NO, "better safe than sorry" is NOT a good rule to live by. A good rule is "better check it out before I do a knee-jerk reaction". SgtGeorge At 12/13/2001 10:33 PM Thursday, Bill Williamson wrote: *********START OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT********* > > > > From: "Paul Spidle" <pspidle@mediaone.net> > > To: "Woody Woodlawn" <WoodyWoodlawn@wgiram.com>, > > "'Bill Williamson'" <wmson27@earthlink.net>, > > Subject: Fw: I received the message below tonight, and did find > the > > referenced file. Not sure if a hoax, but better safe than sorry, > I guess. > > Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 18:30:23 -0500 > > X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 > > > > Hi, > > > > I received an email with a virus...that I have found and deleted. > > Please follow the instructions below > > and see if you have it. I checked to see if I did, and I > did. It > > transfers to whoever is in your > > address book. It lies dormant for 14 days, then kills your hard > drive. > > Here's how to stop it. If you > > find it, send this to everyone in your address book. > > > > 1. go to start - then to "find or search" > > > > 2. in the "search for files or folders" - type in sulfnbk.exe - > this is > > the virus > > > > 3. in the "look in" make sure you're searching Drive C > > > > 4. hit "search" 0r "find" > > > > 5. If this file shows up (it's an ugly blackish icon that will > have the > > name sulfnbk.exe) DO NOT > > OPEN IT > > > > 6. Right click on the file - go down to delete and left click > > > > 7. It will ask if you want to send to the recycle bin -- say yes > > > > 8. Go to your desktop (where all your icons are) and double > click > > recycle bin > > > > 9. right click on sulfnbk.exe and delete again or just empty the > > recycle bin. > > > > If you find this virus, send this to everyone in your address > > book...because that is how it is > > transferred. **********END OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT**********

> > From: "Mark Borgmann" <mborgmann@earthlink.net> > To: "Paul Spidle" <pspidle@mediaone.net>, > Subject: Re: I received the message below tonight, and did find the > referenced file. Not sure if a hoax, but better safe than sorry, I guess. > Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 19:48:58 -0500 > X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 > > Please see the attached URL for further information on this. According to > Symantec (Norton Antivirus), this is a hoax. > > Have a wonderful holiday season! > > Mark > > > <http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/sulfnbk.exe.warning.html>http: > //www.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/sulfnbk.exe.warning.html > > >> >> >> I received an email with a virus...that I have found and deleted. >> Please follow the instructions below >> and see if you have it. I checked to see if I did, and I did. It >> transfers to whoever is in your >> address book. It lies dormant for 14 days, then kills your hard drive. >> Here's how to stop it. If you >> find it, send this to everyone in your address book. >> >> 1. go to start - then to "find or search" >> >> 2. in the "search for files or folders" - type in sulfnbk.exe - this is >> the virus >> >> 3. in the "look in" make sure you're searching Drive C >> >> 4. hit "search" 0r "find" >> >> 5. If this file shows up (it's an ugly blackish icon that will have the >> name sulfnbk.exe) DO NOT >> OPEN IT >> >> 6. Right click on the file - go down to delete and left click >> >> 7. It will ask if you want to send to the recycle bin -- say yes >> >> 8. Go to your desktop (where all your icons are) and double click >> recycle bin >> >> 9. right click on sulfnbk.exe and delete again or just empty the >> recycle bin. >> >> If you find this virus, send this to everyone in your address >> book...because that is how it is >> transferred. > >

> > From: "Paul Spidle" <pspidle@mediaone.net> > To: "Woody Woodlawn" <WoodyWoodlawn@wgiram.com>, > "'Bill Williamson'" <wmson27@earthlink.net>, > Subject: Fw: I received the message below tonight, and did find the > referenced file. Not sure if a hoax, but better safe than sorry, I guess. > Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 18:30:23 -0500 > X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 > > > > Hi, > > I received an email with a virus...that I have found and deleted. > Please follow the instructions below > and see if you have it. I checked to see if I did, and I did. It > transfers to whoever is in your > address book. It lies dormant for 14 days, then kills your hard drive. > Here's how to stop it. If you > find it, send this to everyone in your address book. > > 1. go to start - then to "find or search" > > 2. in the "search for files or folders" - type in sulfnbk.exe - this is > the virus > > 3. in the "look in" make sure you're searching Drive C > > 4. hit "search" 0r "find" > > 5. If this file shows up (it's an ugly blackish icon that will have the > name sulfnbk.exe) DO NOT > OPEN IT > > 6. Right click on the file - go down to delete and left click > > 7. It will ask if you want to send to the recycle bin -- say yes > > 8. Go to your desktop (where all your icons are) and double click > recycle bin > > 9. right click on sulfnbk.exe and delete again or just empty the > recycle bin. > > If you find this virus, send this to everyone in your address > book...because that is how it is > transferred.

It is a HOAX. Do not do this! Fran ----- Original Message ----- From: Sylvia Gould To: EUDORA-MAIL-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 9:58 PM Subject: Re: [EUDORA] Fwd: Fw: I received the message below tonight,. IS this a hoax? I have Norton Antivirus and it has been working great. I did find the file, but it says its in C:\Windows\Command, and was modified 4/23/99. If it's something that is supposed to be in the computer, I sure don't want to mess with it. Sylvia G At 10:33 PM 12/13/01 -0500, you wrote: > > > > From: "Paul Spidle" <pspidle@mediaone.net> > > To: "Woody Woodlawn" <WoodyWoodlawn@wgiram.com>, > > "'Bill Williamson'" <wmson27@earthlink.net>, > > Subject: Fw: I received the message below tonight, and did find the > > referenced file. Not sure if a hoax, but better safe than sorry, I guess. > > Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 18:30:23 -0500 > > X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > I received an email with a virus...that I have found and deleted. > > Please follow the instructions below > > and see if you have it. I checked to see if I did, and I did. It > > transfers to whoever is in your > > address book. It lies dormant for 14 days, then kills your hard drive. > > Here's how to stop it. If you > > find it, send this to everyone in your address book. > > > > 1. go to start - then to "find or search" > > > > 2. in the "search for files or folders" - type in sulfnbk.exe - this is > > the virus > > > > 3. in the "look in" make sure you're searching Drive C > > > > 4. hit "search" 0r "find" > > > > 5. If this file shows up (it's an ugly blackish icon that will have the > > name sulfnbk.exe) DO NOT > > OPEN IT > > > > 6. Right click on the file - go down to delete and left click > > > > 7. It will ask if you want to send to the recycle bin -- say yes > > > > 8. Go to your desktop (where all your icons are) and double click > > recycle bin > > > > 9. right click on sulfnbk.exe and delete again or just empty the > > recycle bin. > > > > If you find this virus, send this to everyone in your address > > book...because that is how it is > > transferred. > > > > >==== EUDORA-MAIL Mailing List ==== >You can contact the List Manager at: >debala715@yahoo.com > >============================== >Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 >Source for Family History Online. Go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=702&sourceid=1237 ==== EUDORA-MAIL Mailing List ==== You can contact the List Manager at: debala715@yahoo.com ============================== Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp

The email that is going around once again about sulfnbk.exe is a HOAX! To read more information about this please visit this site: http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/sulfnbk.exe.warning.html Please do not forward this hoax on to anyone else. At 10:33 PM 12/13/01 -0500, Bill Williamson wrote: > > > > From: "Paul Spidle" <pspidle@mediaone.net> > > To: "Woody Woodlawn" <WoodyWoodlawn@wgiram.com>, > > "'Bill Williamson'" <wmson27@earthlink.net>, > > Subject: Fw: I received the message below tonight, and did find the > > referenced file. Not sure if a hoax, but better safe than sorry, I > guess. > > Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 18:30:23 -0500 > > X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 -- Debbie Schnell Woolard - List Manager listadmin@earthlink.net

hi! I will seem paranoid to all of you probably, but I got several emails from various people with EUDORIA's email address, with the same subject that looked suspicious, but something about it gave me pause. I suspected a virus, because the same thing happened to me on another Virus discussion list where BadTrans was attaching itself to email sent to listers by the infected computer. If I'm wrong about this (I suspect others would have come upon this if it is a virus)...please forgive the warning, but I deleted them all post haste because I didn't want to fall into the same trap. They all came just a while ago and all at once! suspicious Jo ----- Original Message ----- From: "joan" <joanarc10@attbi.com> To: <EUDORA-MAIL-L-request@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 8:03 PM Subject: subscribe > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Walter Gaddis" <wgaddis@mediaone.net> > To: <WINDOWS-FOR-DUMMIES-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, April 30, 2001 6:15 PM > Subject: Re: [WIN-DUM] Questions About Eudora > > > Subscribe > > > Eudora has an "out" box sent items go into. I'm assuming that would be > > where your "sent" items from OE would have been transfered to. > > > > You may join the Eudora mail list at <EUDORA-MAIL-L-request@rootsweb.com> > >

sulfnbk.exe is a useful windows file... DO NOT DELETE IT! Just another soggy Seattle Sysop. -----Original Message----- From: Sylvia Gould [mailto:nade@gorge.net] Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 7:58 PM To: EUDORA-MAIL-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [EUDORA] Fwd: Fw: I received the message below tonight,. IS this a hoax? I have Norton Antivirus and it has been working great. I did find the file, but it says its in C:\Windows\Command, and was modified 4/23/99. If it's something that is supposed to be in the computer, I sure don't want to mess with it. Sylvia G At 10:33 PM 12/13/01 -0500, you wrote: > > > > From: "Paul Spidle" <pspidle@mediaone.net> > > To: "Woody Woodlawn" <WoodyWoodlawn@wgiram.com>, > > "'Bill Williamson'" <wmson27@earthlink.net>, > > Subject: Fw: I received the message below tonight, and did find the > > referenced file. Not sure if a hoax, but better safe than sorry, I guess. > > Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 18:30:23 -0500 > > X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > I received an email with a virus...that I have found and deleted. > > Please follow the instructions below > > and see if you have it. I checked to see if I did, and I did. It > > transfers to whoever is in your > > address book. It lies dormant for 14 days, then kills your hard drive. > > Here's how to stop it. If you > > find it, send this to everyone in your address book. > > > > 1. go to start - then to "find or search" > > > > 2. in the "search for files or folders" - type in sulfnbk.exe - this is > > the virus > > > > 3. in the "look in" make sure you're searching Drive C > > > > 4. hit "search" 0r "find" > > > > 5. If this file shows up (it's an ugly blackish icon that will have the > > name sulfnbk.exe) DO NOT > > OPEN IT > > > > 6. Right click on the file - go down to delete and left click > > > > 7. It will ask if you want to send to the recycle bin -- say yes > > > > 8. Go to your desktop (where all your icons are) and double click > > recycle bin > > > > 9. right click on sulfnbk.exe and delete again or just empty the > > recycle bin. > > > > If you find this virus, send this to everyone in your address > > book...because that is how it is > > transferred. > > > > >==== EUDORA-MAIL Mailing List ==== >You can contact the List Manager at: >debala715@yahoo.com > >============================== >Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 >Source for Family History Online. Go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=702&sourceid=1237 ==== EUDORA-MAIL Mailing List ==== You can contact the List Manager at: debala715@yahoo.com ============================== Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp

IS this a hoax? I have Norton Antivirus and it has been working great. I did find the file, but it says its in C:\Windows\Command, and was modified 4/23/99. If it's something that is supposed to be in the computer, I sure don't want to mess with it. Sylvia G At 10:33 PM 12/13/01 -0500, you wrote: > > > > From: "Paul Spidle" <pspidle@mediaone.net> > > To: "Woody Woodlawn" <WoodyWoodlawn@wgiram.com>, > > "'Bill Williamson'" <wmson27@earthlink.net>, > > Subject: Fw: I received the message below tonight, and did find the > > referenced file. Not sure if a hoax, but better safe than sorry, I guess. > > Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 18:30:23 -0500 > > X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > I received an email with a virus...that I have found and deleted. > > Please follow the instructions below > > and see if you have it. I checked to see if I did, and I did. It > > transfers to whoever is in your > > address book. It lies dormant for 14 days, then kills your hard drive. > > Here's how to stop it. If you > > find it, send this to everyone in your address book. > > > > 1. go to start - then to "find or search" > > > > 2. in the "search for files or folders" - type in sulfnbk.exe - this is > > the virus > > > > 3. in the "look in" make sure you're searching Drive C > > > > 4. hit "search" 0r "find" > > > > 5. If this file shows up (it's an ugly blackish icon that will have the > > name sulfnbk.exe) DO NOT > > OPEN IT > > > > 6. Right click on the file - go down to delete and left click > > > > 7. It will ask if you want to send to the recycle bin -- say yes > > > > 8. Go to your desktop (where all your icons are) and double click > > recycle bin > > > > 9. right click on sulfnbk.exe and delete again or just empty the > > recycle bin. > > > > If you find this virus, send this to everyone in your address > > book...because that is how it is > > transferred. > > > > >==== EUDORA-MAIL Mailing List ==== >You can contact the List Manager at: >debala715@yahoo.com > >============================== >Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 >Source for Family History Online. Go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=702&sourceid=1237

At 10:16 AM 12/12/01, you wrote: >Contact your current provider. Ask them what the STMP and POP name is. >Then click on Tools>Options>Getting Started and put the info they give you >in the appropriate places. You also need to replace the block with "Return >address" with your current address > >Gene Phillips > > >At 01:26 AM 12/12/01 -0800, you wrote: >>I have first (default) Outlook Express 6 which came with my computer. A >>friend downloaded Eudora for me and set it up, even importing some of my >>messages from O.E. After that time, my cable server, At Home.com >>(EXCITE.com) went bankrupt, and I finally got their replacement server, >>attbi.com to get back on line. I don't knoew if that is why I cannot send >>out any messages on Eudora, (which, BTW, shows my old email address: >>joanarc10@home.com in the FROM line), or is it that I have to click >>somewhere to make Eudora my default when I want to use it? >> >> I would appreciate any help, >> thanks, >> Joan , joanarc10@attbi.com I sent this to Joan on a Pvt note, however anyone that is in this mess with Excite@home, we all have had to re configure a lot of software, and many have not recovered yet due to the problems that some software has with configuration. Go to this site, https://help.broadband.att.com/index.jsp?lobid=1 and you will see the new mail addresses you must insert into the Eudora Program. on one of the links, not sure which, you can read a bit about it. If you look in the upper right corner, it asks if you want to sign in. Click it, and tell it your zip code, and it will come up with a page tailored to your town. Shakey Jack

Contact your current provider. Ask them what the STMP and POP name is. Then click on Tools>Options>Getting Started and put the info they give you in the appropriate places. You also need to replace the block with "Return address" with your current address Gene Phillips At 01:26 AM 12/12/01 -0800, you wrote: >I have first (default) Outlook Express 6 which came with my computer. A >friend downloaded Eudora for me and set it up, even importing some of my >messages from O.E. After that time, my cable server, At Home.com >(EXCITE.com) went bankrupt, and I finally got their replacement server, >attbi.com to get back on line. I don't knoew if that is why I cannot send >out any messages on Eudora, (which, BTW, shows my old email address: >joanarc10@home.com in the FROM line), or is it that I have to click >somewhere to make Eudora my default when I want to use it? > > I would appreciate any help, > thanks, > Joan , joanarc10@attbi.com > >----- Original Message ----- >From: <EUDORA-MAIL-L-request@rootsweb.com> >To: <joanarc10@attbi.com> >Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 8:13 PM >Subject: Re: subscribe > > > > You have added to the subscriber list of: > > > > EUDORA-MAIL-L@rootsweb.com > the following mail address: > joanarc10@attbi.com > > > >==== EUDORA-MAIL Mailing List ==== >To unsubscribe from EUDORA-MAIL, send an e-mail message to: > EUDORA-MAIL-L-request@rootsweb.com (for individual messages) > EUDORA-MAIL-D-request@rootsweb.com (for Digest mode) >Put only ONE word in the subject: UNSUBSCRIBE >(You don't need to put anything in the body.) > >============================== >Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 >Source for Family History Online. Go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=702&sourceid=1237

I have first (default) Outlook Express 6 which came with my computer. A friend downloaded Eudora for me and set it up, even importing some of my messages from O.E. After that time, my cable server, At Home.com (EXCITE.com) went bankrupt, and I finally got their replacement server, attbi.com to get back on line. I don't knoew if that is why I cannot send out any messages on Eudora, (which, BTW, shows my old email address: joanarc10@home.com in the FROM line), or is it that I have to click somewhere to make Eudora my default when I want to use it? I would appreciate any help, thanks, Joan , joanarc10@attbi.com ----- Original Message ----- From: <EUDORA-MAIL-L-request@rootsweb.com> To: <joanarc10@attbi.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 8:13 PM Subject: Re: subscribe > You have added to the subscriber list of: > > EUDORA-MAIL-L@rootsweb.com the following mail address: joanarc10@attbi.com

I have never seen this discussed before, so am sending in hopes it will make it easier for users to edit the EUDORA.INI file; especially for those who are afraid to mess with it. I found out by accident how to do this. Go to this URL: http://www.eudora.com/techsupport/ini.html You will see a page titled "EUDORA.INI Settings File". Scroll down to find the setting you want to change, or add, if it's not already there. Once you find the setting you want to change or add, click on the underlined name in the left of the table. You will have to have Eudora running for this to work properly. Once you click, the focus should shift to the Eudora program. (If it doesn't, just click on the Eudora icon in the tray at the bottom of your screen.) You will then see a window where you can make the changes. Let's use an example to show you how it works. Suppose you wish to be able to edit any header of an incoming email. Normally you can't do this, since the default setting doesn't allow it. Scroll down until you see "EditAllHeaders". Click on it. In the window that pops up in Eudora, change "New Value" to "1" and click OK. You have just edited the EUDORA.INI file! Another good one to edit is "FilterTransferName". You know when you set up a filter and choose the "Transfer" Action, on the right you see the long bar that you can click to choose which Mailbox/Folder to send the filtered email to. Change this value to 1, 2, or 3. (0 is the default.) Number 3 works best for me. One that I added was "ExtraHeaders". When you receive this email, in the headers section, you should see clickable links to my web page, and to "Germanna Notes". These headers were added by clicking on the "Extra Headers" and typing in the required text. The format looks like this: X-WebSite: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~george/index.html If you want to add more than one "ExtraHeader", you MUST add "\r\n" (without the quotes) between the headers. Example: X-AlternateAddress: whoever@someplace.com\r\nX-WebSite: http://www.johndoe.com I would advise everyone to NOT change any settings unless he/she knows positively what he/she is doing. If you have questions, they should be addressed here on this List before making changes. AND, no one except a bone-fide expert should make any changes in any sections except [SETTINGS]. Further, I advise looking at all the possible settings and see if any of them could help you. SgtGeorge George W. Durman

George, Jack, Elizabeth-- Didn't mean to imply in anyway that limiting size would plug virus/worm holes. Personally, I don't send the large messages or attachments directly to the trash. I review large messages and then decide IF I want to download from the server. I also use MailWasher. Between Eudora, MailWasher, daily updated Anti-virus definitions and a firewall, I am almost safe. I still scan every attachment that I do accept, and have taught all my correspondents to send advance notice of attachments. The rare soul that doesn't will receive a request from me to confirm that they actually sent it. See -- I was paying attention to all your emails, and am mighty grateful for each and every one;-) Rel@ively safe, Patrice At 12/8/2001 06:00 PM, you wrote: >At 01:54 AM 12/8/01, you wrote: >>I don't think it is advisable to set up any email browser to automatically >>reject, or delete, attachments. I, for one, get too many genealogy-related >>files as attachments to even WANT to do this. Trying to delete attachments, >>or reject them, is kind of like telling the USPS to NOT deliver ANY mail to >>your mail box, just on the off-chance that you will receive something you >>don't want to receive. >> >>And, rejecting emails over a certain size, is in the same >>category. Elizabeth, >>what if someone sends you a GEDCOM that exceeds the 30 Kb size? Do >>you want to dismiss it out of hand? >> >>Folks, there are better ways than rejecting attachments, or emails over a >>certain size, to stop infections. You're plugging up the wrong holes. >> >>SgtGeorge > >I am in complete agreement with the Sgt. The proper use of a good >anti-virus program, and a good firewall, (I think ZoneAlarm is best >firewall, and the price, free, cannot be beat), will protect you from just >about any problem you might get from a e-mail. Just one thing however, >and that is configure the software well. If you use Norton's anti-virus >software, ver 2001 or 2002, it is almost always configured well just by >installing it. With thought, and use, you might want to tweek it a small >bit. For ZoneAlarm, for most users when you install it, it is configured >correctly. > >Shakey Jack

--=======1F90662A======= Content-Type: text/plain; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-75316029; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Shakey Jack, I have Concentric dial-up service which works fine for me. Probably I am too paranoid about getting a virus infection. I have Zone Alarm and AVG (always up-dated) which has caught and isolated every virus I have received so far. Many thanks to the experts for all the ideas. Between the mailing lists and PC 911 I do get a lot of help with my computer problems. Maybe sometime I will be able to help a friend in need! Elizabeth ======================================================= At 09:41 AM 12/8/01 -0800, you wrote: >At 08:29 AM 12/8/01, you wrote: >>--=======3FF12D1D======= >>Content-Type: text/plain; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-42B15F94; >>charset=us-ascii; format=flowed >>Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit >> >>Hi SgtGeorge, >> >>Many thanks for the reply. Probably you are right. My idea was to reject >>attachments as a default, then when someone sent a message that s/he had a >>genealogy file for me I would open the gate, so to speak, until the >>attachment had arrived. >> >>Whenever I have an attached file to send someone I include in the message >>information about the size and ask if s/he wants the file. There is always >>the option of mailing a print-out if that is preferred. This practice stems >>from my own experience several years ago when I used an aging computer and >>sometimes a photo that I didn't even want took half an hour to download >>when I was waiting for my mail, resulting in considerable wailing and >>gnashing of teeth. >> >>I think most folks already do the same with genealogy info and don't mind >>awaiting consent. Of course I wouldn't like to miss out on an updated >>family tree! >> >>Just a thought, >> >>Elizabeth > >Since you are on Concentric.net, I am not sure if you are dial-up or >DSL. If DSL, it is easy to have the e-mail sent to special folders on the >hard disk, where they can be deleted easily. The speed of DSL will >download large files in quick order. If dial-up however, you are in a >different world. There you need to possibly set a size requirement, but >make it large enough that it will stop pix, but not Gedcom files and text >files you might want to use. > >I am probably letting myself in for a flood again, but with a cable modem, >I download all the e-mail to the computer, then sort it out. > >Shakey Jack --=======1F90662A======= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-avg=cert; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-75316029 Content-Disposition: inline --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.306 / Virus Database: 166 - Release Date: 12/4/01 --=======1F90662A=======--

At 08:29 AM 12/8/01, you wrote: >--=======3FF12D1D======= >Content-Type: text/plain; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-42B15F94; charset=us-ascii; >format=flowed >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > >Hi SgtGeorge, > >Many thanks for the reply. Probably you are right. My idea was to reject >attachments as a default, then when someone sent a message that s/he had a >genealogy file for me I would open the gate, so to speak, until the >attachment had arrived. > >Whenever I have an attached file to send someone I include in the message >information about the size and ask if s/he wants the file. There is always >the option of mailing a print-out if that is preferred. This practice stems >from my own experience several years ago when I used an aging computer and >sometimes a photo that I didn't even want took half an hour to download >when I was waiting for my mail, resulting in considerable wailing and >gnashing of teeth. > >I think most folks already do the same with genealogy info and don't mind >awaiting consent. Of course I wouldn't like to miss out on an updated >family tree! > >Just a thought, > >Elizabeth Since you are on Concentric.net, I am not sure if you are dial-up or DSL. If DSL, it is easy to have the e-mail sent to special folders on the hard disk, where they can be deleted easily. The speed of DSL will download large files in quick order. If dial-up however, you are in a different world. There you need to possibly set a size requirement, but make it large enough that it will stop pix, but not Gedcom files and text files you might want to use. I am probably letting myself in for a flood again, but with a cable modem, I download all the e-mail to the computer, then sort it out. Shakey Jack

At 01:54 AM 12/8/01, you wrote: >I don't think it is advisable to set up any email browser to automatically >reject, or delete, attachments. I, for one, get too many genealogy-related >files as attachments to even WANT to do this. Trying to delete attachments, >or reject them, is kind of like telling the USPS to NOT deliver ANY mail to >your mail box, just on the off-chance that you will receive something you >don't want to receive. > >And, rejecting emails over a certain size, is in the same >category. Elizabeth, >what if someone sends you a GEDCOM that exceeds the 30 Kb size? Do >you want to dismiss it out of hand? > >Folks, there are better ways than rejecting attachments, or emails over a >certain size, to stop infections. You're plugging up the wrong holes. > >SgtGeorge I am in complete agreement with the Sgt. The proper use of a good anti-virus program, and a good firewall, (I think ZoneAlarm is best firewall, and the price, free, cannot be beat), will protect you from just about any problem you might get from a e-mail. Just one thing however, and that is configure the software well. If you use Norton's anti-virus software, ver 2001 or 2002, it is almost always configured well just by installing it. With thought, and use, you might want to tweek it a small bit. For ZoneAlarm, for most users when you install it, it is configured correctly. Shakey Jack

--=======3FF12D1D======= Content-Type: text/plain; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-42B15F94; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi SgtGeorge, Many thanks for the reply. Probably you are right. My idea was to reject attachments as a default, then when someone sent a message that s/he had a genealogy file for me I would open the gate, so to speak, until the attachment had arrived. Whenever I have an attached file to send someone I include in the message information about the size and ask if s/he wants the file. There is always the option of mailing a print-out if that is preferred. This practice stems from my own experience several years ago when I used an aging computer and sometimes a photo that I didn't even want took half an hour to download when I was waiting for my mail, resulting in considerable wailing and gnashing of teeth. I think most folks already do the same with genealogy info and don't mind awaiting consent. Of course I wouldn't like to miss out on an updated family tree! Just a thought, Elizabeth =========================================================== At 04:54 AM 12/8/01 -0500, you wrote: >I don't think it is advisable to set up any email browser to automatically >reject, or delete, attachments. I, for one, get too many genealogy-related >files as attachments to even WANT to do this. Trying to delete attachments, >or reject them, is kind of like telling the USPS to NOT deliver ANY mail to >your mail box, just on the off-chance that you will receive something you >don't want to receive. > >And, rejecting emails over a certain size, is in the same >category. Elizabeth, >what if someone sends you a GEDCOM that exceeds the 30 Kb size? Do >you want to dismiss it out of hand? > >Folks, there are better ways than rejecting attachments, or emails over a >certain size, to stop infections. You're plugging up the wrong holes. > >SgtGeorge --=======3FF12D1D======= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-avg=cert; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-42B15F94 Content-Disposition: inline --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.306 / Virus Database: 166 - Release Date: 12/4/01 --=======3FF12D1D=======--

I don't think it is advisable to set up any email browser to automatically reject, or delete, attachments. I, for one, get too many genealogy-related files as attachments to even WANT to do this. Trying to delete attachments, or reject them, is kind of like telling the USPS to NOT deliver ANY mail to your mail box, just on the off-chance that you will receive something you don't want to receive. And, rejecting emails over a certain size, is in the same category. Elizabeth, what if someone sends you a GEDCOM that exceeds the 30 Kb size? Do you want to dismiss it out of hand? Folks, there are better ways than rejecting attachments, or emails over a certain size, to stop infections. You're plugging up the wrong holes. SgtGeorge At Friday 11:47 AM 12/07/2001, genealogy@cfl.rr.com wrote: *********START OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT********* >Elizabeth, > >I don't reject attachments, but I do reject messages over 30K. That catches >most (but not all) attachments. > >Go to Tools > Options... > Incoming Mail. Then check "Skip Messages over >[ ] K." You fill in the size. It's not perfect, put it also stops many >of the long jokes and forever Forwarded chain letters. BUT you must take >the time to delete the messages from the server (unless you can set a filter >to do that automagically). > >Rel@ively, >Patrice > >At 12/6/2001 11:00 PM, you wrote: >>I have recently upgraded from Eudora 3 to Eudora 5.1 and have got it mostly >>configured to my preferences. However could someone please tell me if I can >>configure this new program to reject all attached files? I would like to do >>that, and inform my correspondents who might be sending attachments to >>inform me in advance and I could turn off that feature. > > > > >==== EUDORA-MAIL Mailing List ==== >You can contact the List Manager at: >debala715@yahoo.com > >============================== >Visit Ancestry's Library - The best collection of family history >learning and how-to articles on the Internet. >http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library **********END OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT**********

Elizabeth, I don't reject attachments, but I do reject messages over 30K. That catches most (but not all) attachments. Go to Tools > Options... > Incoming Mail. Then check "Skip Messages over [ ] K." You fill in the size. It's not perfect, put it also stops many of the long jokes and forever Forwarded chain letters. BUT you must take the time to delete the messages from the server (unless you can set a filter to do that automagically). Rel@ively, Patrice At 12/6/2001 11:00 PM, you wrote: >I have recently upgraded from Eudora 3 to Eudora 5.1 and have got it >mostly >configured to my preferences. However could someone please tell me if I >can >configure this new program to reject all attached files? I would like to >do >that, and inform my correspondents who might be sending attachments to >inform me in advance and I could turn off that feature.