Friends, I have intermittent problems downloading e-mail, and don't understand enough about how Eudora works to know how to handle them. I'm on a cable modem, using 4.2 Pro, and have 5 personalities. 3 of these are @home addresses, including one used primarily for rootsweb mail and PML and two that get very light use. One is an ibm.net address, and the last is an address I've set up for my church on att.net, for which I end up using a dialup connection occasionally. I was away for a few days and came home to over 1000 messages on my genealogy address and my ibm address, and all that mail downloaded fine. I leave my Eudora on most of the time, and generally, my mail shows up just fine; other than right-clicking on the church personality and stopping that one, everything works. But occasionally, and today is an example, the genealogy address balks. The error mressge is "Error reading from network Cause: Eudora got tired of waiting for the server (10100)" I've got 169 messages sitting there (since perhaps 10:30 last night) This has happened before, and it seems to clear itself eventually. But I'd love to understand why it happens. Is there something I need to tweak, or a problem at the @home server? (I've checked -- this list comes in over the address that is working, so I'll receive your responses.) Thanks! Wyn Achenbaum mailto:[email protected]

Rootsweb has just instituted a new feature for us genealogy researchers. Most Listowners also manage Suites of Boards for their Surname, County, State, etc. There has always been a problem with the Boards in that some researchers posted queries and replies ONLY to the Boards and unless Listowners copied the messages and forwarded to the Lists, very few people actually saw them. Now, we Listowners have the option of having Board messages forwarded to the appropriate Mailing List. I have activated this function for one List so far, GERMANNA_COLONIES-L. This weekend I hope to configure the corresponding Boards for all the Mailing Lists I manage. What this means is that when someone posts to a Board, that message will show up on the corresponding Mailing List. It is necessary that all you subscribers are aware of this, so that you can reply to the appropriate email address. If you see a post here on the Lists, be sure to look at the headers to see if it came from a Board. If so, and you reply, you will need to send to the email address of the sender, as many Board posters are not subscribers of the corresponding List. MAKE SURE you also CC: the List on which the post appears, so that we may all see your reply. You can identify which posts are forwarded from the GC-Connect Boards. The FROM: will be: [email protected] Regards, SgtGeorge George W. Durman Knoxville, TN

Just a note to inform you about a new variant of the w32.plage.worm that is making its way around the Net/Web. If you receive an email, no matter from whom, that matches the following, delete the email and the attachment. You have no way of knowing whose system is infected by this WORM, so just delete the email and the attachment. DO NOT reply to this note from me on a Mailing List (Unless it is from the VIRUS-DISCUSSION-L List.) This is just a precautionary notice, and is OFF-TOPIC for discussion on normal Mailing Lists. If you want to discuss it, subscribe to the VIRUS-DISCUSSION Mailing List and discuss it there, OR, send to me privately. NOTE: DO NOT, repeat, DO NOT, click to activate an attachment to an email unless you are 110% certain that it is a valid attachment!!!!! Don't be gullible and infect your system with one of these WORMS! Always make sure you check with the supposed sender before running an attached executable file! ************************* This is what the email will say: P2000 Mail auto-reply: ' I'll try to reply as soon as possible. Take a look to the attachment and send me your opinion! ' > Get your FREE P2000 Mail now! < The attachment will have one of the following names: billgt.exe card.exe docs.exe fun.exe hamster.exe humor.exe images.exe joke.exe midsong.exe news_doc.exe pics.exe PsPGame.exe searchURL.exe SETUP.EXE s3msong.exe tamagotxi.exe" ************************* Take care, SgtGeorge George W. Durman Knoxville, TN

At 02:41 AM 04/01/2000, Sylvia Gould wrote: *************START OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT************* I just had to empty the hard drive and reload everything. I saved my Eudora mailboxes. I thought I had experimented with this before and found it was easy to replace a full mailbox. However, when I did what I thought was right, using an unimportant one, I lost the contents. Afraid to try another one. Some are pretty full and I don't relish the idea of reading each as a long long Wordpad text, although I have saved them that way, in case. Also, how do I configure Eudora or my dial-up info to get back to where I was-- When I connected to my ISP, Eudora automatically opened and downloaded mail. Not doing that now. Thanks. Sylvia G. **************END OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT************** Sylvia, exactly which files did you save for your mailboxes? If you made a Mailbox NOT in a Folder, that Mailbox is represented in the Eudora main directory as a .toc and a .mbx file. In other words, if you made a Mailbox named "Personal", there will be two files in Eudora, Personal.toc and Personal.mbx. If, however, you made a "Folder", say "Personal", and in it you made several Mailboxes, say "Friends", "Quilting", and "Genealogy", there will be a sub-directory under Eudora called "Personal". In that sub-directory, there will be .toc and .mbx files for "Friends", "Quilting", and "Genealogy". You would have to back up all the .toc and .mbx files in the "main" directory, AND in the subdirectories. Then, when restoring, you would have to copy those files back into the appropriate places, either in the "main" directory, or in the appropriate sub-directories. How did you back up? With a ZIP program? Copying the individual files to a ZIP disk, CD, etc.? The saved files have to be placed back into Eudora in exactly the same place they were on the original hard drive. I use a program called TaskZip and have it configured to backup .toc and .mbx files in Eudora AND in ALL subdirectories. If I have to restore the files, I use WinZip and tell it to put the files back in the appropriate directories and subdirectories. I know this may be confusing, but just let me know exactly how you backed up the files and I can help. Awaiting your reply, SgtGeorge George W. Durman Knoxville, TN EUDORA-MAIL Listowner Archives of previous EUDORA-MAIL posts are located at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/EUDORA-MAIL-L/ (Copy and paste the above URL exactly as above. The address is "case-sensitive". If you have never used the Archives before, you will have to establish a UserName and Password. You will need only one User- Name and Password for all of Rootsweb, regardless of which Archives you are searching.)

At 12:02 AM 04/01/2000, Mike & Ginger Woodcock wrote: *************START OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT************* I think most of the bugs are out of my system.. some of it was a bad copy of win98.. go figure.. LOL I have noticed that my 4.3 paid version is not putting anything to point out the replied to text.. how do I do this on my own.. I'm used to having < > ,but at this point will be happy with anything.. I do sorta like Sgt. George's ******** ginger **************END OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT************** To do this, you have to edit your EUDORA.INI. Use Windows NotePad, or whatever you use for editing files, and pull up EUDORA.INI from your Eudora directory. Under [Settings], somewhere you should find two lines; QuotePrefix=> and ReplyPrefix=> Modify the EUDORA.INI file so that the two lines above look like this: QuoteStart=*************(Forwarded Message)************** QuotePrefix=> QuoteEnd=**********(End of Forwarded Message)********** ReplyStart=*************START OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT************* ReplyPrefix=> ReplyEnd=**************END OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT************** This should fix things the way you want them. Have fun, SgtGeorge George W. Durman Knoxville, TN EUDORA-MAIL Listowner Archives of previous EUDORA-MAIL posts are located at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/EUDORA-MAIL-L/ (Copy and paste the above URL exactly as above. The address is "case-sensitive". If you have never used the Archives before, you will have to establish a UserName and Password. You will need only one User- Name and Password for all of Rootsweb, regardless of which Archives you are searching.)

I just had to empty the hard drive and reload everything. I saved my Eudora mailboxes. I thought I had experimented with this before and found it was easy to replace a full mailbox. However, when I did what I thought was right, using an unimportant one, I lost the contents. Afraid to try another one. Some are pretty full and I don't relish the idea of reading each as a long long Wordpad text, although I have saved them that way, in case. Also, how do I configure Eudora or my dial-up info to get back to where I was-- When I connected to my ISP, Eudora automatically opened and downloaded mail. Not doing that now. Thanks. Sylvia G.

I think most of the bugs are out of my system.. some of it was a bad copy of win98.. go figure.. LOL I have noticed that my 4.3 paid version is not putting anything to point out the replied to text.. how do I do this on my own.. I'm used to having < > ,but at this point will be happy with anything.. I do sorta like Sgt. George's ******** ginger Mike & Ginger Woodcock/EagleRun Australian Shepherds 3106 Price Street; Nederland, TX 77627-4721 (409) 722-8045 fx (409) 722-0559 [email protected] http://www.eaglerun1.com Ginger's WebDesign is here to help with your Web Needs, Give us a call, or email with your questions. Remember, the purchase of an EagleRun Aussie is not the end of a Transaction, it is the Beginning of a Relationship, enjoy!! :-)

Sgt.George wrote: >Eudora is almost certainly programmed so that if one interferes with the >Ads, such as hackers rewriting the code to get rid of them, it rebels and >reverts to the Lite mode in retaliation. > >If reconfiguring Naviscope doesn't stop the problem, just shut it down >while you are in Eudora, then re-start it when you go to a web site. Thanks for confirming my suspicions. I've turned off Naviscope for the past hour while keeping Eudora open and a live web connection. Hopefully, Qualcommm has sent me new ads (I'm seeing some as I write), the program has registered their arrival, and I'll be removed from suspicion as a tamperer. Then I can turn Naviscope back on for a while. :>) Chris Christopher Brooks Franconia, NH

At 05:50 PM 03/30/2000, Christopher Brooks wrote: *************START OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT************* Sarge and company, For the past two days, each time I've opened Eudora 4.3, which I've previously registered in sponsored mode, I've received a message informing me that I don't seem to be receiving ads, and including a link to the Qualcomm website. Also included in the message is a veiled threat that without ads my software will "eventually" revert to Light mode, with its diminished feature set. The Qualcomm link simply takes me to a download page, offering a number of variants of the Pro version at a price. I don't want to buy it, which is why I downloaded innumerable versions of the beta and registered in Sponsored mode in the first place. I haven't touched the Eudora installation in weeks, so that's not the cause of the interrupted ads. Nor have I tried in any way to delete, block or disrupt the ads - they're small and pretty innocuous and I just ignore them. I'm wondering if Naviscope, an internet utility which I installed several days ago, could be the problem. One of Naviscope's features is that it blocks banners and popup ads on websites. It never occurred to me when installing it that it might interfere with the several ad-supported pieces of software I've acquired. Any suggestions welcome! Thanks, Christopher Brooks Franconia, NH **************END OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT************** Christopher, I have used Naviscope and it DOES work with Eudora. So, maybe your problems are related to it. Try this: Re-configure Naviscope NOT to work in MS Internet Explorer. That should turn it off for Eudora. I did notice that when I was using Naviscope, which was while I was also using the Betas of Eudora 4.3, that it stopped adds in emails and in the Eudora ads, AND, since you are using the "Sponsored" mode (free, with ads), Naviscope is probably interfering with Eudora. Eudora is almost certainly programmed so that if one interferes with the Ads, such as hackers rewriting the code to get rid of them, it rebels and reverts to the Lite mode in retaliation. If reconfiguring Naviscope doesn't stop the problem, just shut it down while you are in Eudora, then re-start it when you go to a web site. SgtGeorge

Sarge and company, For the past two days, each time I've opened Eudora 4.3, which I've previously registered in sponsored mode, I've received a message informing me that I don't seem to be receiving ads, and including a link to the Qualcomm website. Also included in the message is a veiled threat that without ads my software will "eventually" revert to Light mode, with its diminished feature set. The Qualcomm link simply takes me to a download page, offering a number of variants of the Pro version at a price. I don't want to buy it, which is why I downloaded innumerable versions of the beta and registered in Sponsored mode in the first place. I haven't touched the Eudora installation in weeks, so that's not the cause of the interrupted ads. Nor have I tried in any way to delete, block or disrupt the ads - they're small and pretty innocuous and I just ignore them. I'm wondering if Naviscope, an internet utility which I installed several days ago, could be the problem. One of Naviscope's features is that it blocks banners and popup ads on websites. It never occurred to me when installing it that it might interfere with the several ad-supported pieces of software I've acquired. Any suggestions welcome! Thanks, Christopher Brooks Franconia, NH

At 05:00 PM 03/29/2000, Rene' Marker wrote: *************START OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT************* Hey George & list, got a question for ya. I correspond with people who use OE and the "stationary" feature which puts a pretty picture (supposedly) in their email. I know others see it because they talk about it. But using Eudora Pro 4.1 I don't see the stationary. I was trying to help a friend learn how to use the feature at her house a few weeks ago. We sent a test message to me and I saw the picture. She wrote down the instructions and follows them exactly the same as what I did, but I don't receive the picture! I have messages coming in all the time that when I reply to them, Eudora asks me if I want to send it in Plain & Styled text so I know I'm getting HTML email. Is there some setting in Eudora that I need to change (never changed my settings) or is it the OE software which is flaky? I had thought it was this one friend, but I'm on a one-list email list and they talked about someone's stationary this last week, so I know it's not just my friend. No big deal, but I'm curious about it ;) Thanks. Rene' **************END OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT************** Hi René. Here are the settings you have to have in Eudora to see the background pictures, fancy text, etc.: Tools/Options/Viewing Mail - Check Use Microsoft's Viewer (If you don't use MSIE, you need to download it and install, even if you don't ever use it. You can still keep whatever Web Browser you do use as the "default". I use Netscape as my Web Browser, but had to install MSIE in order to use all the nice "goodies" in Eudora. I just kept Netscape as my "default" browser.) Try this and let us know if you can then see the "fancy" stuff that some users send. Personally, I would love it if MS email-browser users NEVER sent that fancy stuff. It is "pretty", but just adds to the size of downloaded emails and really serves no practical purpose. And, many users, who have other email browsers, never see the added stuff anyway. SgtGeorge

Hey George & list, got a question for ya. I correspond with people who use OE and the "stationary" feature which puts a pretty picture (supposedly) in their email. I know others see it because they talk about it. But using Eudora Pro 4.1 I don't see the stationary. I was trying to help a friend learn how to use the feature at her house a few weeks ago. We sent a test message to me and I saw the picture. She wrote down the instructions and follows them exactly the same as what I did, but I don't receive the picture! I have messages coming in all the time that when I reply to them, Eudora asks me if I want to send it in Plain & Styled text so I know I'm getting HTML email. Is there some setting in Eudora that I need to change (never changed my settings) or is it the OE software which is flaky? I had thought it was this one friend, but I'm on a one-list email list and they talked about someone's stationary this last week, so I know it's not just my friend. No big deal, but I'm curious about it ;) Thanks. Rene'

At 12:51 03/28/2000 -0600, you wrote: >One more try..... >The redirected messages ALL come with the original sender's name in the >"from" field. It looks just exactly like the original message with the >exception of the "<by way of>" added AFTER the original sender's name. >The message looks like an original.....except for the "<by way of>" blurb >in the from line. > >A forward puts the whole message in question into the BODY of the forwarded >message....headers and all. >Also has the brackets ">" at the beginning of each line of text. It LOOKS >like a forward...not an original. > >Does that help to clarify it better? > >Mari > > >At 12:04 AM 3/28/00 -0600, Roy Patton wrote: >>Mari, >> >> I see the "<by way of>" but I don't see a lot of "messy header stuff" >>in either one of them. What I'm saying is I don't see enough difference to >>justify another icon and trying to keep up with what it does that's >>different. >> >> Can you, George, anyone tell me what "Forward" does in English words >>and then tell me what "Redirect" does in English words? These subtle >>examples aren't getting it done. >> >>Roy Patton > > Mari, GOT IT!! Thanks Roy Patton

One more try..... The redirected messages ALL come with the original sender's name in the "from" field. It looks just exactly like the original message with the exception of the "<by way of>" added AFTER the original sender's name. The message looks like an original.....except for the "<by way of>" blurb in the from line. A forward puts the whole message in question into the BODY of the forwarded message....headers and all. Also has the brackets ">" at the beginning of each line of text. It LOOKS like a forward...not an original. Does that help to clarify it better? Mari At 12:04 AM 3/28/00 -0600, Roy Patton wrote: >Mari, > > I see the "<by way of>" but I don't see a lot of "messy header stuff" >in either one of them. What I'm saying is I don't see enough difference to >justify another icon and trying to keep up with what it does that's >different. > > Can you, George, anyone tell me what "Forward" does in English words >and then tell me what "Redirect" does in English words? These subtle >examples aren't getting it done. > >Roy Patton

At 01:04 AM 03/28/2000, Roy Patton wrote: *************START OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT************* (snip) Mari, I see the "<by way of>" but I don't see a lot of "messy header stuff" in either one of them. What I'm saying is I don't see enough difference to justify another icon and trying to keep up with what it does that's different. Can you, George, anyone tell me what "Forward" does in English words and then tell me what "Redirect" does in English words? These subtle examples aren't getting it done. Roy Patton **************END OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT************** Roy, Mari explained it beautifully. I can't do any better. And, the "header stuff" did show up in the email she Forwarded, in the body text, all those headers DID appear. George

At 05:16 PM 03/27/2000, Roy Patton wrote: *************START OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT************* (snip) George, What is the difference between "Forwarding" and "Redirecting" mail? Roy Patton **************END OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT************** Roy, when Forwarding, the email comes from you, and all the text has the > characters before each line. When Redirecting, the email comes from the original sender, with an added "By way of [email protected]", and the text is sent exactly as you received it. George

At 18:12 03/27/2000 -0600, you wrote: > >George, > > What is the difference between "Forwarding" and "Redirecting" mail? > >Roy Patton > > >------------------End Original Message------------------------ > >What I have done is a redirect. See the " (by way of Mari ><[email protected]>)" >in the from line? What that is saying, is that I am redirecting the >message that was sent by you. Also, it doesn't have the messy header >stuff, nor does it have the brackets ">" preceding the text. Follow? >Next, I will send it as a forward..... > >Mari > > Mari, I see the "<by way of>" but I don't see a lot of "messy header stuff" in either one of them. What I'm saying is I don't see enough difference to justify another icon and trying to keep up with what it does that's different. Can you, George, anyone tell me what "Forward" does in English words and then tell me what "Redirect" does in English words? These subtle examples aren't getting it done. Roy Patton

Ok...the message below is now forwarded. That is, I used the forward option in the Message menu. Compare the two, and you'll see the difference. In the redirect message, I manually added the ------------------End Original Message------------------------ in the body of the message. Normally it isn't there. I added it to separate the original message from my response. Mari >Resent-Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 14:14:23 -0800 >X-Original-Sender: [email protected] Mon Mar 27 14:14:22 2000 >X-Sender: [email protected] >X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) >Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 16:16:13 -0600 >Old-To: [email protected] >From: Roy Patton <[email protected]> >Subject: Re: [EUDORA] "Reply-To" capability... >To: [email protected] >Resent-From: [email protected] >Reply-To: [email protected] >X-Mailing-List: <[email protected]> archive/latest/575 >X-Loop: [email protected] >Resent-Sender: EUDORA-MA[email protected] > > > > >Edward, if you use "Redirect", Eudora will redirect the email to > whatever you > >put in the TO: header; the FROM: header will contain the email address > of the > >original sender AND a by-way-of statement; e.g.: > > > >If I Redirect your original email to a Mailing List, here's what the FROM: > >header looks like: > > > >From: "Edward A. Black, Sr." <[email protected]> (by way of "George W. > >Durman" <[email protected]>) > > > >If you delete the "by way of" part, the email will "bounce" from the List, > >unless the original sender is also a subscriber. > > > >I do this all the time and always precede the original body text with a > note > >that I am merely forwarding the email and all replies should go to the >original > >sender. I then copy and paste his/her address in the body to make sure > those > >who reply send to the appropriate address. > > > >George > > > > > >George, > > What is the difference between "Forwarding" and "Redirecting" mail? > >Roy Patton > > >============================== >Free Web space. ANY amount. ANY subject. >RootsWeb's Freepages put you in touch with millions. >http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi

George, What is the difference between "Forwarding" and "Redirecting" mail? Roy Patton ------------------End Original Message------------------------ What I have done is a redirect. See the " (by way of Mari <[email protected]>)" in the from line? What that is saying, is that I am redirecting the message that was sent by you. Also, it doesn't have the messy header stuff, nor does it have the brackets ">" preceding the text. Follow? Next, I will send it as a forward..... Mari

At 03:54 PM 03/27/2000, Edward A. Black, Sr. wrote: *************START OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT************* Is it possible to have a "Reply To" statement in the header? [It would be a possible 3rd party address.]. The reason is this: I receive a message I must forward to a list for someone. I do NOT want the reply to this message to come to me, but to the person I must forward the message for. IE: To: [mail list address] Reply-To: [original sender of message] From: [my e-mail address] What can I do in Eudora 4.3 to accomplish this? Sincerely, Edward, Sr. **************END OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT************** Edward, if you use "Redirect", Eudora will redirect the email to whatever you put in the TO: header; the FROM: header will contain the email address of the original sender AND a by-way-of statement; e.g.: If I Redirect your original email to a Mailing List, here's what the FROM: header looks like: From: "Edward A. Black, Sr." <[email protected]> (by way of "George W. Durman" <[email protected]>) If you delete the "by way of" part, the email will "bounce" from the List, unless the original sender is also a subscriber. I do this all the time and always precede the original body text with a note that I am merely forwarding the email and all replies should go to the original sender. I then copy and paste his/her address in the body to make sure those who reply send to the appropriate address. George